yes i absolutely believe atheists should exist, its unfortunate that as time went by there needed to be a term to define it, because for an extremely large majority of the history of existence, intelligent beings had no knowledge or thought of a god. it is a very new thought in comparison to the entirety of known existence.
I believe in Yahweh about as much as you believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
The thing is we don't really need complex proof that there isn't a god because the positive hypothesis was an absurd claim in the first place. The possibility is so miniscule it's not even worth considering, but saying that takes a lot longer than "there is no god". Why even bother? I can make equally accurate and practical claims by saying "there is no Santa Claus" or "there is no Easter Bunny".
@4:03 There's a reason why "agnostic atheist" contains the word "agnostic." Atheism and theism deal with belief. Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge. Saying one is an agnostic simply means they don't know. It tells you nothing about if they believe or not.
It is not a matter of denial. It is a matter of clarifying the gray area that your video eludes to.
It is not a contradiction of terms to those who understand what the terms actually mean.
If you reject all other gods, you lack belief in those gods, you are an atheist of the Greek, hindu, shinto, native americans deities etc. Atheist from the ancient greek word: atheos without god, godless.
A somewhat unfair portrayal of the position of most atheists. Instead of "there definitely is no god" a more fair accurate position of an atheist would be "i do not believe in your or any gods because there is a lack of evidence to justify their existence. Since there is no evidence it is not rational to believe in your god or any gods. I will continue to disbelieve until there is sufficient evidence to change my position."
I burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim.
As someone who is an 'atheist', you're the first Christian youtuber who I can actually relate to. Although we clearly have different world views, I appreciate the stance you take on this issue and I assume all your other videos. Thank you for not being ignorant and close-minded :D
Atheism does not preclude absolutes. Of course simply saying "There is no god" is an absolute statement; perhaps saying "There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there is one" is much more correct. No scientist could ever "hold on" to absolute truth, the scientific method forces the revision of any theory based on evidence. From a scientific perspective, gods do not exist as there is no evidence for any.
Agnosticism does not in any way suggest "denial", this should be obvious.
"There is a god" is just as absolute. Everyone understands the concept of god, but some don't believe there is actually a god. Religious people believe there actually is a god who has influence in the material world. I personally feel the notion of this tyrannical being repulsive, as it suppresses freedom.
You do realize that your reasoning applies to the statement "There is a God" also, which means that you are an agnostic theist. Of course you believe, without a doubt, that there is a God. A bit arrogant don't you think. Also why, on all your videos, do the dislikes far outnumber the likes.
I'm an atheist because I don't believe there are any gods, they just don't make sense. I'm a scientist so I accept that there is a tiny probability of there being one or more gods, but without any meaningful data to show there are any, my margin of error is acceptably minuscule. But I'm agnostic as well due to that small margin of error. Should theists exist? Because every theist has to accept there is a possibility of gods not existing just as atheists do. Theists cannot exist without atheists.
Atheism is not an "absolute claim" it's more of a derogatory term given to people who happen to not believe in religious doctrine, that some of us have adopted for ourselves just to ease communication. I make no claim the God does not exist, it is you that makes a claim that God does exist. "Atheists" come in so many varieties because it's not even a legitimate term, it describes an infinite group (everyone except members of various cults). We are simply Humans who don't belong to a cult.
What a completely obnoxious person. Secondly, who sits through editing a video like this thinking "Yeah...yeah, this makes me look intellectual and not petty"?
How is the last question connected to anything you said? Makes no sense. We say there is no god because ALL the believers have FAILED to prove their personal deities exist. However, there is indeed a possibility of their existence BUT watch out, that possibility is EXTREMELY LOW compared to the possibility that MAN made it up. If you say there's no absolutes without cause, why is your god an absolute without cause? Total contradiction. Atheists are not the ones that shouldn't exist, religion is.
people of religious faith are subject to that same form of logic, so your whole point is completely irrelevant. if atheists can't exist simply because they can't be certain of nonexistence based on 100% fact, then Christians also can not exist because they can't be logically certain of existence. so basically the world has to be 100$% agnostic.
U got the wrong definition of agnosticism, dude. A agnostic is not a weak atheist. actually those two things are not even related. Agnosticism is the philosophical standard that no truth can be achieved. There fore a agnostic holds that we cannot possible verify the existence of a god. There's even the possibility of a agnostic theist, that would be a person who believes in god but think that we are not able to verify its existence...
FINALLY!!! A christian on the internet with a well thought out and reasonable argument not based entirely on "drrrrrrrr, god did it." I havent watched your other videos (and wont) because I allready know everything I need to know about a religion that tells people to give up their free will, but its nice to know that they're might be at least one of you theists here on the web that makes an attempt to not be ignorant.
@crippletime "attempt" by using logical fallacies in a manipulative way to trick those that don't have a strong understanding of logic. Yea... Good job...
show a "hard atheist" proof of your "god" and they will no longer be a "hard atheist"... wait, you can't. Show a christian that their god "Yahweh", his alleged son "Jesus (supposedly Khristós)" and their third incorporeal party "the holy spirit" are NOT real and they will NOT stop being a christian. YOU are the only one making absolute claims. Ask the same questions in your video to yourself, but put "god" in all of them, same shit! YOU ARE IGNORANTLY FUNNY SIR. Being a "sheep" = low IQ. READ!
I also have never experienced contact with a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people-eating monster, yet I can fathom the idea of it. Does that mean it exists... fuck no.
The only thing this video is proof of is those watching youtube videos to seek truth are sorely misguided...
@inoceanicout Seriously. If this guy had literally read 3 paragraphs deep into a couple wikipedia articles he'd see how inanely unnecessary and misguided this video was.
While I liked that you didn't speak in a completely negative tone towards atheism, you lost me at 'spiritual.' To an atheist, like myself, there is no such thing as a spiritual realm. If it can't exist in the physical realm, then it can't exist. In order to prove the existence and truth to something, in must be possible to be proven physically.
Son, I am disappoint. I suspect you haven't engaged very many atheists in real conversation about what they believe.
Agnosticism and atheism describe two entirely different categories of a position. "Agnostic" indicates that no claim of knowledge is being made. "Atheist" indicates a lack of belief in god. I've personally never met one of these "hard atheists" you describe, and honestly couldn't name one if I tried.
@JustOneEarth Just to drive the point home; agnostic and atheist are NOT mutually exclusive descriptors. There are agnostic atheists, and agnostic theists. For the most part, anyone claiming to know there is NO God would necessarily have to be doing so for irrational reasons. Anyone claiming to know there IS a God is probably in need of education and lessons in critical thinking, and a higher threshold for accepting evidence.
How come all of your videos have a red lightsaber? ohh right! because all of your videos are stupid. Seriously, you are one of the proof that christians are bad at proving a point.
Your right about the "hard atheists" but you completely got the "soft" atheists wrong. You should first start by looking up the definition of agnostic and gnostic. Then realise that when you talk about agnostic you have to say what their agnostic about. You can be agnostic about anything. Agnostic atheist mereley states that "I don't believe there is a god but i can't know for sure" which most atheists are.
Agnostics (those without knowledge) should not exist. Atheists (those without a deity, so why not "adeists"?) should exist if the deity in question is serious about that "free will" thing.
@TheCTimmerman These words have meanings. The word is "atheist" because it means "not theist". "Theist" describes a person who holds belief in one or more gods. A person who does not hold belief in one or more gods is an atheist. Deists are people who believe in a non-interventionist god, a sort of god that sets things in motion but then is out of the picture; if you don't believe in that kind of god, you'd technically be an "adeist". :P
This guy is funny. In order to validate his own belief in the metaphors that guide his reality. He must do his best to discredit what someone else thinks. You poor thing... you live in a Demon Haunted World. The problem is not that Atheist or people who dont believe in GOD dont understand what GOD is. You don't understand what GOD is. We only want to save your humanity from pitfalls of empowering delusions of reality. Simply put expressing our concern.
@mamushi72sai5575 I'm an atheist and have been for about a decade now and I've never met one of these "hard atheists", and couldn't name one if I tried. Any intellectually honest atheist is an agnostic atheist. That doesn't mean that there are no hard atheists; even atheists can believe things for no good reason!
@JustOneEarth Sadly "Strong Atheists" do exist, they are the feeble minded Atheist internet trolls that give us all a bad name. They tend to be very similar in nature to religious zealots, quoting (often misquoting) other Atheists with great furor seemingly without understanding but instead with desire to be associated with our group. Some people have suggested that religious belief in-actuality stems from the same psychology as conformity.
@TheCTimmerman The government allows you to believe whatever nonsensical crap you want to, but no where does it say that people have to respect and believe it as well, and the government damn-well doesn't have to support it. Just respect your right to believe it. So if there are people who want to spend their time believing in something that there is no evidence for, and that which we have no reason to believe exists. That's fine, but don't claim it as fact. You have the burden of proof.
I'll give you this: you're not stupid. Your description of "hard" atheists is OK, albeit limited, but your understanding of absolutes, the onus of proof, and Agnosticism is lacking. Your entire argument against "Atheism" still comes down to accepting an inability to prove a negative as if it inferentially proved a positive. Similar to my thinking when I was younger. Better watch out: if you follow this line to its logical conclusion you might wind up an Atheist yourself....
So Atheists cannot make the statement "There is no god!" But christians can make the statement "There is a god!" By this idiots logic everyone should be an agnostic?
You just spent an entire video complaining why Atheists have no right to claim absolute truth whilst still maintaining your Christian belief that God exists. You sir are an absolute fool and you should just stop making videos; seriously, they're terrible and practically the textbook definition of flawed. Just stop......seriously.
You should learn what words mean before you use them. "Atheist" simply means "lack of belief in gods." Agnosticism describes whether or not one believes such knowledge is achievable. In other words, they describe two very different things. One describes belief, the other describes knowledge. This is really a silly video with arguments you obviously haven't done any research at all on.
This is a terrible video, the author constantly misuses words and analogies. Learn what the definitions of the words are and that the "stamps" analogy is regarding atheism being a religion, nothing else. Also, he needs to apply his own augment to his position and you come up with the same thing. Sure, he is very articulate but he doesn't understand what he is talking about, maybe when we gets a bit older.
Should also be pointed out there really is no such thing as an Agnostic. Everybody is agnostic about God. Everybody. You're either Theist or Atheist (belief), your level of confidence in that determines whether you're agnostic or gnostic (hint: everyone's agnostic). So if you live your life 'without God' (the literal meaning of Atheist), then you're an Atheist. Atheist is a passive classification. If you live your life as if God does exist, even if you're not sure, you're Theist.
"There is a god." You just made an absolute statement of truth with no basis for the statement other than your perception of evidence (or lack thereof)
Your job is to defend your religion as a Christian, not your belief in God. Atheists tend to get along just fine with Deists, who believe in God. Support your belief in a personal, Christian god, not 'some vague idea of some kind of creator'.
I can't disprove god, nor can I disprove invisible flying pink unicorns, but I CAN disprove Christianity. Luckily, I don't have to. It's been done plenty of times by plenty of historians and scientists. Also, logic and reason sort of rule it out.
We have facts , YOU DON'T. you quoted on some other video '' God guides our will''
Then how the fuck can there be atheists in first place???. You're so fucking pointless and fed up by a book that has been written by people not your ''god'' , When Christianity ruled the world it was called THE DARK AGES, and the reson why we're not technologicaly advanced as we could have been without your religon, the world would be better of without the shitstained book you call the bible
@wowliraren12345 Do you have any idea how much scientific and intellectual advancement came from theists with a desire to better understand how God created and interacts with the world? Go to Wikipedia and search "List of Christian thinkers in science" for a better understanding of this aspect of science.
@SeekerOfCheese no I asked if he had reached out and touched the wind or grabbed it. FYI you people on youtube......where your opinion means squat so before you passionately try to convince me that there is no God, Don't because I am VERY deeply rooted in my faith and have been for a long time. yes I am stubborn about most things but this subject is something I will never be swayed on so tread carefully before any of you guys get into it and get schooled by a couple highly educated college kids
The 'hard' Atheist recognises the inability to make an absolute statement about God.
You are correct in saying some Atheist's (including myself) will say they personally do not believe in a God, because there is no observational, philosophical or logical evidence to suggest that there is, you have scripture, which is not evidence.
So our 'belief' is born out of a lack of theist ability to provide any empirical or logical evidence.
After going through MrMinistryMan's videos I was redirected to a video of unicorns scuba diving. Very convincing that there is a god and he cares about people. Even better is the irony that I challenge people who ask me to prove that god doesn't exist, to prove to me that pink unicorns don't exist.
@SunDevil03 and whens the last time you physically reached out and grapped the wind and felt it? you havent because we feel the EFFECTS of the wind because it is transparent. According to your way of describing existent and non existent things, then the wind is non existent because youve never reached out and touched it or felt it touch you. yet we know it exists.....why? No answer for both of those questions? didnt thinks so.....try again
@nhspowerlifter59 Probably, the sundevil mis-spoke and nhspowerlifter misinterpreted. "When [is] the last time you physically felt, touched, physically [saw] or heard your actual brain in your skull?" The evidence for me having a brain are my actions. Not even my thoughts because only I am aware of my thoughts. Without a brain, given current robotic technology, my body is not capable of fully functioning without a brain. Given advances in robotic technology we will have to use x-rays or MRI's.
@nhspowerlifter59 About the wind. Perhaps you're being stubborn, stupid or just don't understand the term "wind". The effects we see from wind is the transfer of kinetic energy of the molecules in the air to other objects. Our nervous system perceives this force as a distributed load or as the movement of our clothes and hair or vibrations. Feeling wind is like feeling water is like feeling sand is like feeling any other material object. Even without wind we can feel air. Care to try again?
DId you actually just say no one has ever felt wind?
Unless you have a sever case of congenital analgesia i'm just going have to presume a total lack of understanding of any of the basic concepts of physics and human biology :/
@SunDevil03 tell me....whens the last time you physically felt, touched, physically seen, or heard your actual brain in your skull? never? so then based on what you say then it is absolute that you have no brain because there is no evidence that you have ever physically touched, seen, heard or tasted your brain. yet you are still alive and functioning. but how is that possible if your so brain which, according to your ways of describing existent and non existent beings, is non existent?
Just to really quickly respond to your thought on atheism having no "absolute" backing... atheists like myself are brought to this state of having no belief in a deity due to the lack of evidence of their being one. We believe that if you claim something exists... it needs to be felt, touched, seen, tasted, or heard. If it can't do any of these things then it defaults to "non-existent" which is absolute. The Christian god cannot be felt, touched, seen, tasted, or heard.
Holy mother of hypocrisy. He gives his own titles for "hard atheists" and "soft atheists" which he then later says is an "agnostic atheist" <<-- No such thing. He then claims at the end of the video that this is a title that "agnostic atheists" chose for themselves. Seriously dude? You just created a contradiction of terms for yourself to disprove. A "soft atheist", by your definition, is called an agnostic. This entire video is a semantics fail.
if atheist don't exist... who typed this comment o3o... can you imagine what would happen if this world if atheist don't exist? human kind wont even last a second boom world is gone.
He said that you cannot use things based in the physical realm to prove something 'spritual'. I dont believe in anything spiritual so things spiritual do not exist to me? so all I can believe, and all there is in existence is physical so why would anything be spiritual?
I believe there is no god, but achnowledge there is a possibilty that God exists or may have once existed. to me, athiesm is the belief that there is no God. I believe there is no God, thus I am an athiest.
As someone who was an agnostic, I can tell you there is a huge difference between the two. as an agnostic I had questions. a hell of a lot of them. Now I feel I have a hell of a lot of answers and the answers to those questions led me to atheism.
By your logic, my claim that "i can fly" must be treated as true, because you have no way to prove that i can't. When you come up with a way to prove that i cannot fly, i'll show you how i can prove that your god does not exist. You use the kind of logic that the scientific world would call "flimsy".
We prefer the title of "anti-theist". I understand that the world is an oblate spheroid, that's an absolute. Are you going to tell me that I "have to admit the earth might be flat, like the magic book says"?? You're asking me to prove a negative, burden of proof is not on me, it's on you. Does Zues exist? What about Hera? What about Medusa? You're trying to prove one specific truth by putting into question ever other truth. by your words, you'd have to admit that "got might not exist".
Don't you dare say that Atheists don't exist! In your eyes, we don't exist, but we stand tall and proud of our own beliefs, just like you do, even when we try to prove "God doesn't exist". I can't prove that my belief is true or real, but I can tell you that my beliefs are completely different from yours and everyones. Can't we just stop arguing about this stupid stuff and stop posting lame videos online about it? It's annoying, and nothing will change. Unless you can prove God exists...*hint*
I have allot of respect to both sides (And I'm even a little jealus for the believers side), but I have to say that for a conversation about this subject to exist, both sides must acknowledge that the conversation we'll exist only for the purpose of learing about both sides, and it cannot end with a winner. This is because, as the video say, both sides are working on different aspects of life. Believers can talk and maybe even make us want to belive, but it doesnt work that way for both ways.
The reason why we say there is no god is because everything you know as atheist shows us that we are 100% right. That is why you can't call it faith like in the other video. Pure logic alone shows us that it is completely impossible that there is an all-powerfull, all-knowing god. You just have to think about it long enough and you come up with new good reason all the time.
@PSNChrree Ok, I'm actually on your side, but your argument is flawed. Newton's Law's are faulty, they should be replaced by Einstein's, Relativity doesn't work on small scale quantum effects, Quantummechanicas don't work on large scale relativistic situations. An atheist who supports science doesn't know anything 100% sure. In fact, any person who knows a little about science will admit that we only know what to expect, not what will happen.
@PSNChrree Well, yes and no. One can prove or disproof something only when one has a basis, axioms in maths for example. If one decides not to trust those axioms, one can't proof, or exclude, anything. If you disagree, please grand me an example.
@PSNChrree Well, yes and no. One can prove or disproof something only when one has a basis, axioms in maths for example. If one decides not to trust those axioms, one can't proof, or exclude, anything. If you disagree, please grand me an example.
An atheist or an a-theist (non theist) is someone who does not believe in any theologies. I could just as easily argue that everyone is an atheist, unless they can come up with complete working definition of what exactly god is. After all, if you can't define god, then you don't know what god is, if you don't know what god is, what is it you believe in? You believe in whatever you imagine god to be, you believe in a figment of your own imagination.
@Crispoisawesome that's not a definition. creating the universe is just a thing god has done, not what god is. It's sort of like defining a beaver as: the creator of a dam. It doesn't really tell you much about the beaver.
@Crispoisawesome Why would I? I don't believe in them. Besides, define those things requires the assumption that magic is real, and an explanation of how magic works. That was sort of my point to begin with numb nuts. You can't believe in god without magic, you can't believe in magic without deciding what magic is, you can't decide what it is without making it up. The God you believe in is a figment of your'e own imagination, like santa.
I'm an agnost, but I'm probably the worst heathen you ever met, because I truly don't think I would worship god even if his presence was proven, made clear/obvious, whatever. Why? Because I don't see the reason why. If He (shouldn't it be It (since god should be unisex)? or They (holy trinity)) did some truly astounding fact or if He needed it (for a good reason), I would consider it. I do not understand why people would willingly worship a mass murderer (Egyptian plagues). Enlighten me please.
@Naerivar people would associate natural disasters to the actions of a "god". thats totally unrational, since it would make no sense for this "god" to destroy what he created. would you destroy a machine you created for a reason and that served a purpose? no. then why would a supreme being do it? why did he create something to be destroyed in the first place? makes no sense.
@Naerivar and yes, God should be called "It", but 2000 years ago, people didnt have that abstract notion of "not having sex". God shouldnt need anything, i mean, if It CREATED ALL, then It probably lived BEFORE there was ANYTHING. so why would It need it?
An atheist is, per definition, someone who does not believe (And as such, it is not a faith). People who you call hard atheists do not really fit in that category. One can not prove the existence of god and one can't disprove it. So people who claim either are overstepping boundaries (and will have to inforce their arguments). I believe that most hard atheists only say 'there is no god' because they're tired of all the people who claim there is.
Thank you for creating a video that is easy to watch and listen to. However, I disagree with your statements. People would view Dawkins, Harris and Hitchens as the most outspoken hard atheists of our time. All three do not claim absolute knowledge of the lack of existence. This "hard" view is false. Being and Agnostic and being and Atheist answer 2 different questions. "Do you believe in god", and "Does god exist". It is just as wrong to proclaim absolute knowledge of existence.
STFU u are a superficial bastard, as are most ranting christians on youtube.
who the hell do you think you are to tell us who we are. think about it would you go up to a Muslim and ask them this? huh?? would ya honestly??? HOW DARE YOU SAY I SHOULDN'T EXIST. i have plenty of proof, wheres YOURS!!!
I believe there is an M&M that lives in the sky for every person on earth. This M&M watches over us and directs our life, demands we pray to it, helps us in sporting events and allows us to live in the land of M&M's upon death. Do you believe in my religious views, do you flatly deny the existence of the M&M gods or do you think that maybe it is true? Your argument is the same. Doesn't mean I can't go on worshiping my M&M god and you can't go on worshiping your bearded man in the sky.
I was gonna type a huge paragraph correcting your definition of agnosticism...nah...won't do it....you're retarded...i'm an agnostic atheist and i should not exist.
See, the problem with the argument laid out in this video comes back to the burden of proof argument that you brought forward in a previous video. If you're going to assert that there should be no hardline atheists because it's illogical to make such a hard claim, by the same merit there should also be no hardline believers of any kind regarding this issue, meaning that your own beliefs are null and void in the eyes of your logic and you should convert to a stance of agnosticism...
@AdamLloyd128 Unless of course you believe that your views can be justified, in which case you must allow that a position of hard atheism can be justified to the same extent (or better, I would assert. You should read the numerous books Dawkins has come out with, his arguments are pretty powerful). To summarise: either you're right about this and therefore should not be a Christian Or you're justified in being a Christian and this video is wrong. Fun times.
Can I just say I hate you?! I'm not an Athiest. I'm not a Christian. I'm not Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Lutheran, none of those. I'm a Deist. Meaning there could be a "god" and there could easily not be because NOBODY KNOWS. NO ONE ALIVE TODAY WAS THERE WHEN THE WORLD WAS CREATED. Sure, I accept that you believe there's a dead man watching us all.
Hmmm... I started off with a negative view on your video sir... (I feel I am, for the most part, an atheist). However, you have made a decent argument here... Nice to see someone who really thinks about their position in religion and develops a stance on atheism rather than just spewing-out religious "facts" and "shooing" your, for lack of a better word, "opponents" away. Not bad sir, not bad...
@MrMinistryMan pure and pointless discussion, as atheïst, no proof, as christian, no proof, no god, god, we all look up for a sign or to look for an explaination,
Should religion exist, to me is an even more important question, since more man and women have been killed because of religion then any other man made invention....
religion is niether bad nor good but why nag over something which nobody can really answer.
you believe what you want to believe, I believe what I believe, we all live...
I wouldn't say: There is no God. I'd say: I don't see any valid evidence that points to the existance of any God, though I'm not all-knowing and therefor my perception of reality may be completely inaccurate. A christian would probably say something like this: God exists because that old book in my bookshelf says so, and as we all know, all that is written is true.
You're kind of a bullshitter, aren't you? I mean. You're asking us to use logic against someone who doesn't care about logic. What sense does that make?
In all honesty, it is like watching a toddler trying to form coherent sentences. Very cute! x3
exclusion in terms of that love, i.e homosexuals, even though homosexuality is scientifically proven as a natural occurring anomaly in many species of animal. Also, being a woman, I find it hard to subscribe to a doctrine that views Human Equality as a bad thing. My Atheism is less about proving you wrong about the existence of God, and more about seeing the corruption, hypocrisies, and hate disguised as "beliefs", and not wanting to be a part of that at all.
Of course we exist. It's kind of a bold and arrogant statement to make, that we can't of shouldn't exist. My personal feeling is that I hold a deeper belief in science and less in the belief that stories which were passed down by word of mouth for 30+ years then written, rewritten, translated, edited by kings, then rewritten are literal truth. I also don't understand the contradiction, in Christianity specifically, of the teachings of universal love while simultaneously preaching notions of...
Atheists exist, because accepting the possibility of God is not believing in God. Belief is being convinced of something, without evidence. So your saying that a person who can't decide on what cereal to eat... must presumably want to eat Fruit Loops, and is in denial? Agnosticism is the indifference towards the existence of God, as there is no evidence one way or the other. So where do you get the idea that Agnostics are just closet theists...?!?!
Part 2: Agnostics make room in their lives for the possibility of a god, thus they refrain from looking up at the sky and shouting "Strike me down, you piece of sh@t" whereas I gladly do so because I make absolutely no room for a god. THAT is the fundamental difference between an atheist and an agnostic. ....
Good god... Where's the button to shut this guy up?? Never have I heard so much bullshit spewed from one mouth. You set very different standards about how to judge a christian and how do judge an atheist. By you saying that atheists can just as well be labeled agnostics, you should group all christians in said group. Neither groups have proof, thus neither group can be proved WRONG or RIGHT.
Continued due to limited text - I label myself as a Atheistic Agnostic merely for the one fact. I cannot disprove your god or anyone elses god. However, you can't prove one exists either. So would it be fair to insist on you changing your belief system into a Theistic Agnostic. Since were ruling out absolutes and all.
This was actually an interesting video. However, your logic could easily be placed as an opposite. Where is your basis for belief in a deity as an absolute. With your own logic all theists are actually "soft" theists and should be labeled as agnostics as well. You can no more prove there is a god than I can disprove the existence of one. I will admit though that this was a rare first to come across a thinking theist even though your thought process is limited by your subjective perspective.
i like your videos, I'm what you called a strong atheist, but what i like about these videos is that you strongly believe your faith, as i do. you argue your point, when ever i have discussions with anybody about the exsistance of god they get angry, change the subject or get very upset. that to me shows that they are not deffinate if their belief of god if they cant argue their point. very intersting topic and the arguements in this thread is great!
and what is this shit with "no evidence" ? There is a lot of evidence that there is no god, just because there IS NO. For example: We dont see amputees get healed, prayers did not get answered(a study showed that prayers are useless), children die slow, people get all kinds of terrible diseases ect. the world looks like there is no god, especialy no christian god. You are a IGNORANT idiot, get some friends, attention whore.
lol where is your basis for your absolute truth?? in your video series i had to click on the "i accept that there are absolute truths" or something, oh well get a life, you suck
just a quick comment on the number of dislikes: this video(and the others put out by MrMinistryMan for as many as I have seen) are well made, display clear thoughts of logic and are entirely preferable to some of the other..... "arguments" floating around youtube.
by that logic, all Christians should lean towards agnosticism. Where is their solid proof? They are making the solid, positive claims that he does 100% exist, but where has been the proof? The logic that a supernatural, perfect being that cares about you and me does exist because we can't prove he doesn't exist is more fallible ludicrous than believing he doesn't exist because there is no evidence for him, in any sense. But I do understand your point, even if I disagree with it.
well we don't hav proof of god either so how can you say that they are ridiculous when noone has proof of either they besieve there is no god we believe different no one can say anything more bcuz no one has evidence of either
By the definition you give there are no Christians either... by the way you cannot have any absolutes about ANYTHING else then you own existent or mathematics for example 2+2=4 is always true!
we may have "imperfect perception" as you say, but also the universe itself and the laws that govern it are not perfect either.
TheChipAndSkip 1 day ago in playlist Uploaded videos
yes i absolutely believe atheists should exist, its unfortunate that as time went by there needed to be a term to define it, because for an extremely large majority of the history of existence, intelligent beings had no knowledge or thought of a god. it is a very new thought in comparison to the entirety of known existence.
TheChipAndSkip 1 day ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Atheism is a position regarding the lack of belief in a god.
Agnosticism is a statement of the lack of absolute knowledge.
They are not mutually exclusive. DUH.
turtlebob78 1 day ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I swear this guy is in a cult!
MrTrufin97 1 day ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I believe in Yahweh about as much as you believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
The thing is we don't really need complex proof that there isn't a god because the positive hypothesis was an absurd claim in the first place. The possibility is so miniscule it's not even worth considering, but saying that takes a lot longer than "there is no god". Why even bother? I can make equally accurate and practical claims by saying "there is no Santa Claus" or "there is no Easter Bunny".
NexusHUBSH 2 days ago
@4:03 There's a reason why "agnostic atheist" contains the word "agnostic." Atheism and theism deal with belief. Gnosticism and agnosticism deal with knowledge. Saying one is an agnostic simply means they don't know. It tells you nothing about if they believe or not.
It is not a matter of denial. It is a matter of clarifying the gray area that your video eludes to.
It is not a contradiction of terms to those who understand what the terms actually mean.
lhvinny 2 days ago
If you reject all other gods, you lack belief in those gods, you are an atheist of the Greek, hindu, shinto, native americans deities etc. Atheist from the ancient greek word: atheos without god, godless.
070257 2 days ago
I find it funny that the arguement about 'hard' atheists can also be applied to religion.
ThePointlessSkills 3 days ago
A somewhat unfair portrayal of the position of most atheists. Instead of "there definitely is no god" a more fair accurate position of an atheist would be "i do not believe in your or any gods because there is a lack of evidence to justify their existence. Since there is no evidence it is not rational to believe in your god or any gods. I will continue to disbelieve until there is sufficient evidence to change my position."
I burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim.
xyTJxy 3 days ago
As someone who is an 'atheist', you're the first Christian youtuber who I can actually relate to. Although we clearly have different world views, I appreciate the stance you take on this issue and I assume all your other videos. Thank you for not being ignorant and close-minded :D
Strigoi101 4 days ago
Atheism does not preclude absolutes. Of course simply saying "There is no god" is an absolute statement; perhaps saying "There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there is one" is much more correct. No scientist could ever "hold on" to absolute truth, the scientific method forces the revision of any theory based on evidence. From a scientific perspective, gods do not exist as there is no evidence for any.
Agnosticism does not in any way suggest "denial", this should be obvious.
FallenPasha 4 days ago
Props for making the most sense out of everyone on the issue Mr Ministry Mang
AlcoholismIsForKids 4 days ago
nothing created everything? Free thinkers believe this? Natural selection is evolution?
Chrisdt453 4 days ago
"There is a god" is just as absolute. Everyone understands the concept of god, but some don't believe there is actually a god. Religious people believe there actually is a god who has influence in the material world. I personally feel the notion of this tyrannical being repulsive, as it suppresses freedom.
fani5000 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
You do realize that your reasoning applies to the statement "There is a God" also, which means that you are an agnostic theist. Of course you believe, without a doubt, that there is a God. A bit arrogant don't you think. Also why, on all your videos, do the dislikes far outnumber the likes.
k3n51m0n 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I'm an atheist because I don't believe there are any gods, they just don't make sense. I'm a scientist so I accept that there is a tiny probability of there being one or more gods, but without any meaningful data to show there are any, my margin of error is acceptably minuscule. But I'm agnostic as well due to that small margin of error. Should theists exist? Because every theist has to accept there is a possibility of gods not existing just as atheists do. Theists cannot exist without atheists.
83N170 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Atheism is not an "absolute claim" it's more of a derogatory term given to people who happen to not believe in religious doctrine, that some of us have adopted for ourselves just to ease communication. I make no claim the God does not exist, it is you that makes a claim that God does exist. "Atheists" come in so many varieties because it's not even a legitimate term, it describes an infinite group (everyone except members of various cults). We are simply Humans who don't belong to a cult.
Chatkiller1981 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
What a completely obnoxious person. Secondly, who sits through editing a video like this thinking "Yeah...yeah, this makes me look intellectual and not petty"?
danielalcinii 4 days ago
How is the last question connected to anything you said? Makes no sense. We say there is no god because ALL the believers have FAILED to prove their personal deities exist. However, there is indeed a possibility of their existence BUT watch out, that possibility is EXTREMELY LOW compared to the possibility that MAN made it up. If you say there's no absolutes without cause, why is your god an absolute without cause? Total contradiction. Atheists are not the ones that shouldn't exist, religion is.
Redbloodedsky 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
An people who never know or eat sugar is in fact a diaebetic?
EliosMoonElios 4 days ago
@EliosMoonElios soft or agnostic diabetic, apparently you would have to claim a strong aversion to eating sugar to be a true diabetic. lmao!
Chatkiller1981 4 days ago
people of religious faith are subject to that same form of logic, so your whole point is completely irrelevant. if atheists can't exist simply because they can't be certain of nonexistence based on 100% fact, then Christians also can not exist because they can't be logically certain of existence. so basically the world has to be 100$% agnostic.
jdaddydizzle 4 days ago
are you high? or just incredibly stupid?
shutupyouasshole 4 days ago
The second you said "spiritual", you destroyed any argument in your favor.
danlc95 4 days ago
U got the wrong definition of agnosticism, dude. A agnostic is not a weak atheist. actually those two things are not even related. Agnosticism is the philosophical standard that no truth can be achieved. There fore a agnostic holds that we cannot possible verify the existence of a god. There's even the possibility of a agnostic theist, that would be a person who believes in god but think that we are not able to verify its existence...
rafaelcamargossantos 4 days ago
Wtf is up with christians on youtube and their shitty background music? can anyone give me insight on this?
1freeman777 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The 90's called, they want your everything back.
joeymcdermott 4 days ago
FINALLY!!! A christian on the internet with a well thought out and reasonable argument not based entirely on "drrrrrrrr, god did it." I havent watched your other videos (and wont) because I allready know everything I need to know about a religion that tells people to give up their free will, but its nice to know that they're might be at least one of you theists here on the web that makes an attempt to not be ignorant.
crippletime 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@crippletime "attempt" by using logical fallacies in a manipulative way to trick those that don't have a strong understanding of logic. Yea... Good job...
Chatkiller1981 4 days ago
Well, why your god is particularly. Unless you answer it in circular logic, you won't find it anyway.
ryuumajin 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
show a "hard atheist" proof of your "god" and they will no longer be a "hard atheist"... wait, you can't. Show a christian that their god "Yahweh", his alleged son "Jesus (supposedly Khristós)" and their third incorporeal party "the holy spirit" are NOT real and they will NOT stop being a christian. YOU are the only one making absolute claims. Ask the same questions in your video to yourself, but put "god" in all of them, same shit! YOU ARE IGNORANTLY FUNNY SIR. Being a "sheep" = low IQ. READ!
sonicparadigmshift 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
It's simple: Evidence = 1, no evidence = 0. There is no evidence in a god =0.
TheBassHeavy 4 days ago
I also have never experienced contact with a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people-eating monster, yet I can fathom the idea of it. Does that mean it exists... fuck no.
The only thing this video is proof of is those watching youtube videos to seek truth are sorely misguided...
inoceanicout 4 days ago 2
@inoceanicout Seriously. If this guy had literally read 3 paragraphs deep into a couple wikipedia articles he'd see how inanely unnecessary and misguided this video was.
JustOneEarth 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
While I liked that you didn't speak in a completely negative tone towards atheism, you lost me at 'spiritual.' To an atheist, like myself, there is no such thing as a spiritual realm. If it can't exist in the physical realm, then it can't exist. In order to prove the existence and truth to something, in must be possible to be proven physically.
BIubbit01 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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KnightBeren 4 days ago
Son, I am disappoint. I suspect you haven't engaged very many atheists in real conversation about what they believe.
Agnosticism and atheism describe two entirely different categories of a position. "Agnostic" indicates that no claim of knowledge is being made. "Atheist" indicates a lack of belief in god. I've personally never met one of these "hard atheists" you describe, and honestly couldn't name one if I tried.
JustOneEarth 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@JustOneEarth Just to drive the point home; agnostic and atheist are NOT mutually exclusive descriptors. There are agnostic atheists, and agnostic theists. For the most part, anyone claiming to know there is NO God would necessarily have to be doing so for irrational reasons. Anyone claiming to know there IS a God is probably in need of education and lessons in critical thinking, and a higher threshold for accepting evidence.
JustOneEarth 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
How come all of your videos have a red lightsaber? ohh right! because all of your videos are stupid. Seriously, you are one of the proof that christians are bad at proving a point.
Josearnaldomanuel2 5 days ago
Annoying presentation of nonsense.
trapfish 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Saw the angry birds poster in the background...I instantly turned the video off.
Kiristovai 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Your right about the "hard atheists" but you completely got the "soft" atheists wrong. You should first start by looking up the definition of agnostic and gnostic. Then realise that when you talk about agnostic you have to say what their agnostic about. You can be agnostic about anything. Agnostic atheist mereley states that "I don't believe there is a god but i can't know for sure" which most atheists are.
xBladerunner42x 5 days ago
atheist: "A is A." christian: "B is B! B is B! how can you not see that B is B! (yea also we advocate that A is C but let's get to that later
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Taunt61 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Agnostics (those without knowledge) should not exist. Atheists (those without a deity, so why not "adeists"?) should exist if the deity in question is serious about that "free will" thing.
TheCTimmerman 5 days ago
@TheCTimmerman These words have meanings. The word is "atheist" because it means "not theist". "Theist" describes a person who holds belief in one or more gods. A person who does not hold belief in one or more gods is an atheist. Deists are people who believe in a non-interventionist god, a sort of god that sets things in motion but then is out of the picture; if you don't believe in that kind of god, you'd technically be an "adeist". :P
JustOneEarth 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
if i were you, with your certainty in your beliefs, i would be pretty mad that god made me look like such a goober.
sebastski 5 days ago
You all know this guy is right, right?
slayercherz 5 days ago
Another Christian making a big deal about something which will probably never be proven BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I USED THE WORD 'PROBABLY')
crazymanlargemarge 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This guy is funny. In order to validate his own belief in the metaphors that guide his reality. He must do his best to discredit what someone else thinks. You poor thing... you live in a Demon Haunted World. The problem is not that Atheist or people who dont believe in GOD dont understand what GOD is. You don't understand what GOD is. We only want to save your humanity from pitfalls of empowering delusions of reality. Simply put expressing our concern.
emorden 5 days ago
I have met many atheists but never a hard atheist. Therefore they must not exist. lol.
mamushi72sai5575 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@mamushi72sai5575 I'm an atheist and have been for about a decade now and I've never met one of these "hard atheists", and couldn't name one if I tried. Any intellectually honest atheist is an agnostic atheist. That doesn't mean that there are no hard atheists; even atheists can believe things for no good reason!
JustOneEarth 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@JustOneEarth Sadly "Strong Atheists" do exist, they are the feeble minded Atheist internet trolls that give us all a bad name. They tend to be very similar in nature to religious zealots, quoting (often misquoting) other Atheists with great furor seemingly without understanding but instead with desire to be associated with our group. Some people have suggested that religious belief in-actuality stems from the same psychology as conformity.
Chatkiller1981 4 days ago
I can say, by most standards and logic that, the heavenly father is a dead beat dad, who has neglected his children for far to long.
2clean4dean 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@2clean4dean ok
2clean4dean 5 days ago
Wow, 5 minutes wasted on faulty logic and misinformation. Thanks Mr. Barney Rubble Looking Tool.
rfptube 5 days ago
Without evidence, the spiritual world does not exist.
darionconwell 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@darionconwell So just hide the bodies and there were no murders.
TheCTimmerman 5 days ago
@TheCTimmerman So you're saying we should just assume that a murder happened. Even though we have no reason to think that one did? Sound logic.
darionconwell 4 days ago
@darionconwell If that is your faith, protected by freedom of religion, then the government says you should.
TheCTimmerman 4 days ago
@TheCTimmerman The government allows you to believe whatever nonsensical crap you want to, but no where does it say that people have to respect and believe it as well, and the government damn-well doesn't have to support it. Just respect your right to believe it. So if there are people who want to spend their time believing in something that there is no evidence for, and that which we have no reason to believe exists. That's fine, but don't claim it as fact. You have the burden of proof.
darionconwell 4 days ago
I'll give you this: you're not stupid. Your description of "hard" atheists is OK, albeit limited, but your understanding of absolutes, the onus of proof, and Agnosticism is lacking. Your entire argument against "Atheism" still comes down to accepting an inability to prove a negative as if it inferentially proved a positive. Similar to my thinking when I was younger. Better watch out: if you follow this line to its logical conclusion you might wind up an Atheist yourself....
Gant10101 5 days ago
So Atheists cannot make the statement "There is no god!" But christians can make the statement "There is a god!" By this idiots logic everyone should be an agnostic?
cheesefeed 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
Lol so if you believe that atheists dont exist can you prove that christians dont exist?
enjoi6life 5 days ago
You just spent an entire video complaining why Atheists have no right to claim absolute truth whilst still maintaining your Christian belief that God exists. You sir are an absolute fool and you should just stop making videos; seriously, they're terrible and practically the textbook definition of flawed. Just stop......seriously.
ZedLeppelin1989 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 6
You should learn what words mean before you use them. "Atheist" simply means "lack of belief in gods." Agnosticism describes whether or not one believes such knowledge is achievable. In other words, they describe two very different things. One describes belief, the other describes knowledge. This is really a silly video with arguments you obviously haven't done any research at all on.
LisatheRational 5 days ago
This is a terrible video, the author constantly misuses words and analogies. Learn what the definitions of the words are and that the "stamps" analogy is regarding atheism being a religion, nothing else. Also, he needs to apply his own augment to his position and you come up with the same thing. Sure, he is very articulate but he doesn't understand what he is talking about, maybe when we gets a bit older.
AagnosticAtheist49 5 days ago 2
Should also be pointed out there really is no such thing as an Agnostic. Everybody is agnostic about God. Everybody. You're either Theist or Atheist (belief), your level of confidence in that determines whether you're agnostic or gnostic (hint: everyone's agnostic). So if you live your life 'without God' (the literal meaning of Atheist), then you're an Atheist. Atheist is a passive classification. If you live your life as if God does exist, even if you're not sure, you're Theist.
ApollonApostle 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 3
lol It's funny because he's an idiot.
jg2904 5 days ago
SOUNDS LEGIT
annalisagetscrunk 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
you don't exist
Phobos11 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
"There is a god." You just made an absolute statement of truth with no basis for the statement other than your perception of evidence (or lack thereof)
BlurryEyes 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 7
Your job is to defend your religion as a Christian, not your belief in God. Atheists tend to get along just fine with Deists, who believe in God. Support your belief in a personal, Christian god, not 'some vague idea of some kind of creator'.
ApollonApostle 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 3
I am here. I exist
agripinoduarte 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Too much drugs are bad for brain!
insanewarlock666 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
LOL, you're a real comedian, bro.
creamynessification 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
I can't disprove god, nor can I disprove invisible flying pink unicorns, but I CAN disprove Christianity. Luckily, I don't have to. It's been done plenty of times by plenty of historians and scientists. Also, logic and reason sort of rule it out.
samx3i 5 days ago 9
you believe in an imaginary friend. grow the fuck up. theres a real world out there.
smokeweedlivehigh 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 4
We have facts , YOU DON'T. you quoted on some other video '' God guides our will''
Then how the fuck can there be atheists in first place???. You're so fucking pointless and fed up by a book that has been written by people not your ''god'' , When Christianity ruled the world it was called THE DARK AGES, and the reson why we're not technologicaly advanced as we could have been without your religon, the world would be better of without the shitstained book you call the bible
wowliraren12345 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 27
@wowliraren12345 Do you have any idea how much scientific and intellectual advancement came from theists with a desire to better understand how God created and interacts with the world? Go to Wikipedia and search "List of Christian thinkers in science" for a better understanding of this aspect of science.
chicgeek2008 4 days ago
@SeekerOfCheese no I asked if he had reached out and touched the wind or grabbed it. FYI you people on youtube......where your opinion means squat so before you passionately try to convince me that there is no God, Don't because I am VERY deeply rooted in my faith and have been for a long time. yes I am stubborn about most things but this subject is something I will never be swayed on so tread carefully before any of you guys get into it and get schooled by a couple highly educated college kids
nhspowerlifter59 5 days ago
@MrMinistryMan
The 'hard' Atheist recognises the inability to make an absolute statement about God.
You are correct in saying some Atheist's (including myself) will say they personally do not believe in a God, because there is no observational, philosophical or logical evidence to suggest that there is, you have scripture, which is not evidence.
So our 'belief' is born out of a lack of theist ability to provide any empirical or logical evidence.
Nice try but your argument is based on stereotype
SeekerOfCheese 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 3
After going through MrMinistryMan's videos I was redirected to a video of unicorns scuba diving. Very convincing that there is a god and he cares about people. Even better is the irony that I challenge people who ask me to prove that god doesn't exist, to prove to me that pink unicorns don't exist.
hummvee69 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@SunDevil03 and whens the last time you physically reached out and grapped the wind and felt it? you havent because we feel the EFFECTS of the wind because it is transparent. According to your way of describing existent and non existent things, then the wind is non existent because youve never reached out and touched it or felt it touch you. yet we know it exists.....why? No answer for both of those questions? didnt thinks so.....try again
nhspowerlifter59 6 days ago
@nhspowerlifter59 Probably, the sundevil mis-spoke and nhspowerlifter misinterpreted. "When [is] the last time you physically felt, touched, physically [saw] or heard your actual brain in your skull?" The evidence for me having a brain are my actions. Not even my thoughts because only I am aware of my thoughts. Without a brain, given current robotic technology, my body is not capable of fully functioning without a brain. Given advances in robotic technology we will have to use x-rays or MRI's.
hummvee69 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@nhspowerlifter59 About the wind. Perhaps you're being stubborn, stupid or just don't understand the term "wind". The effects we see from wind is the transfer of kinetic energy of the molecules in the air to other objects. Our nervous system perceives this force as a distributed load or as the movement of our clothes and hair or vibrations. Feeling wind is like feeling water is like feeling sand is like feeling any other material object. Even without wind we can feel air. Care to try again?
hummvee69 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
@nhspowerlifter59
DId you actually just say no one has ever felt wind?
Unless you have a sever case of congenital analgesia i'm just going have to presume a total lack of understanding of any of the basic concepts of physics and human biology :/
See hummvee69's reply
SeekerOfCheese 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 10
@SunDevil03 tell me....whens the last time you physically felt, touched, physically seen, or heard your actual brain in your skull? never? so then based on what you say then it is absolute that you have no brain because there is no evidence that you have ever physically touched, seen, heard or tasted your brain. yet you are still alive and functioning. but how is that possible if your so brain which, according to your ways of describing existent and non existent beings, is non existent?
nhspowerlifter59 6 days ago
@nhspowerlifter59
Ever heard of MRI?
SeekerOfCheese 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Just to really quickly respond to your thought on atheism having no "absolute" backing... atheists like myself are brought to this state of having no belief in a deity due to the lack of evidence of their being one. We believe that if you claim something exists... it needs to be felt, touched, seen, tasted, or heard. If it can't do any of these things then it defaults to "non-existent" which is absolute. The Christian god cannot be felt, touched, seen, tasted, or heard.
SunDevil03 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Holy mother of hypocrisy. He gives his own titles for "hard atheists" and "soft atheists" which he then later says is an "agnostic atheist" <<-- No such thing. He then claims at the end of the video that this is a title that "agnostic atheists" chose for themselves. Seriously dude? You just created a contradiction of terms for yourself to disprove. A "soft atheist", by your definition, is called an agnostic. This entire video is a semantics fail.
SunDevil03 6 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
LMAO
rosyjenn 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
if atheist don't exist... who typed this comment o3o... can you imagine what would happen if this world if atheist don't exist? human kind wont even last a second boom world is gone.
M1random5L 1 week ago
@M1random5L you obviously didnt hear the very first sentence he said
BlackScreenCorp 1 week ago
He said that you cannot use things based in the physical realm to prove something 'spritual'. I dont believe in anything spiritual so things spiritual do not exist to me? so all I can believe, and all there is in existence is physical so why would anything be spiritual?
Xenophontis4 1 week ago
Everyone is born being an atheist. Actually, babies don't really care or know about any god.
criticona10 1 week ago
The bible to me is just something that men made up to hurt women.
MsThalbal 1 week ago
I believe there is no god, but achnowledge there is a possibilty that God exists or may have once existed. to me, athiesm is the belief that there is no God. I believe there is no God, thus I am an athiest.
As someone who was an agnostic, I can tell you there is a huge difference between the two. as an agnostic I had questions. a hell of a lot of them. Now I feel I have a hell of a lot of answers and the answers to those questions led me to atheism.
Fanglespangle 1 week ago
By your logic, my claim that "i can fly" must be treated as true, because you have no way to prove that i can't. When you come up with a way to prove that i cannot fly, i'll show you how i can prove that your god does not exist. You use the kind of logic that the scientific world would call "flimsy".
kirixen 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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Since when do you have to have evidence that something doesn't exist when there is no evidence that it does?
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kirixen 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
We prefer the title of "anti-theist". I understand that the world is an oblate spheroid, that's an absolute. Are you going to tell me that I "have to admit the earth might be flat, like the magic book says"?? You're asking me to prove a negative, burden of proof is not on me, it's on you. Does Zues exist? What about Hera? What about Medusa? You're trying to prove one specific truth by putting into question ever other truth. by your words, you'd have to admit that "got might not exist".
kirixen 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
For fuck sake. There is no god!!!
KodoEntertainment 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
One word for you, sir: hypocrite.
kroqgar78 1 week ago
Don't you dare say that Atheists don't exist! In your eyes, we don't exist, but we stand tall and proud of our own beliefs, just like you do, even when we try to prove "God doesn't exist". I can't prove that my belief is true or real, but I can tell you that my beliefs are completely different from yours and everyones. Can't we just stop arguing about this stupid stuff and stop posting lame videos online about it? It's annoying, and nothing will change. Unless you can prove God exists...*hint*
MerchyAtGC 1 week ago 2
I have allot of respect to both sides (And I'm even a little jealus for the believers side), but I have to say that for a conversation about this subject to exist, both sides must acknowledge that the conversation we'll exist only for the purpose of learing about both sides, and it cannot end with a winner. This is because, as the video say, both sides are working on different aspects of life. Believers can talk and maybe even make us want to belive, but it doesnt work that way for both ways.
korkingkid 1 week ago
Since when do you have to have evidence that something doesn't exist when there is no evidence that it does?
XCdaWOODS 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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Naerivar 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The reason why we say there is no god is because everything you know as atheist shows us that we are 100% right. That is why you can't call it faith like in the other video. Pure logic alone shows us that it is completely impossible that there is an all-powerfull, all-knowing god. You just have to think about it long enough and you come up with new good reason all the time.
PSNChrree 1 week ago
@PSNChrree Ok, I'm actually on your side, but your argument is flawed. Newton's Law's are faulty, they should be replaced by Einstein's, Relativity doesn't work on small scale quantum effects, Quantummechanicas don't work on large scale relativistic situations. An atheist who supports science doesn't know anything 100% sure. In fact, any person who knows a little about science will admit that we only know what to expect, not what will happen.
Naerivar 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Naerivar
I'm not just talking about science or evidence. What I'm saying is that there are things you can exlude by pure logic.
PSNChrree 1 week ago
@PSNChrree Well, yes and no. One can prove or disproof something only when one has a basis, axioms in maths for example. If one decides not to trust those axioms, one can't proof, or exclude, anything. If you disagree, please grand me an example.
Naerivar 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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@PSNChrree Well, yes and no. One can prove or disproof something only when one has a basis, axioms in maths for example. If one decides not to trust those axioms, one can't proof, or exclude, anything. If you disagree, please grand me an example.
Naerivar 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
thats a lot of angry birds stuffed toys and posters you have there.. doesnt your good book advise against false gods?
imtruckr 1 week ago
An atheist or an a-theist (non theist) is someone who does not believe in any theologies. I could just as easily argue that everyone is an atheist, unless they can come up with complete working definition of what exactly god is. After all, if you can't define god, then you don't know what god is, if you don't know what god is, what is it you believe in? You believe in whatever you imagine god to be, you believe in a figment of your own imagination.
Cloudedlogics 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Cloudedlogics God is meant to be the creator of our universe, do you want an argument now?
Crispoisawesome 1 week ago
@Crispoisawesome that's not a definition. creating the universe is just a thing god has done, not what god is. It's sort of like defining a beaver as: the creator of a dam. It doesn't really tell you much about the beaver.
Cloudedlogics 1 week ago
@Cloudedlogics Define me a unicorn, or the tooth fairy, or santa, then I'll argue that they exist.
Crispoisawesome 1 week ago
@Crispoisawesome Why would I? I don't believe in them. Besides, define those things requires the assumption that magic is real, and an explanation of how magic works. That was sort of my point to begin with numb nuts. You can't believe in god without magic, you can't believe in magic without deciding what magic is, you can't decide what it is without making it up. The God you believe in is a figment of your'e own imagination, like santa.
Cloudedlogics 1 week ago
@Cloudedlogics I'm sorry mate, misread your first comment. I'm an atheist so you know when I said those things I was being dumb
Crispoisawesome 1 week ago
@Crispoisawesome I had a suspicion there was a misunderstanding a foot.
Cloudedlogics 1 week ago
I'm an agnost, but I'm probably the worst heathen you ever met, because I truly don't think I would worship god even if his presence was proven, made clear/obvious, whatever. Why? Because I don't see the reason why. If He (shouldn't it be It (since god should be unisex)? or They (holy trinity)) did some truly astounding fact or if He needed it (for a good reason), I would consider it. I do not understand why people would willingly worship a mass murderer (Egyptian plagues). Enlighten me please.
Naerivar 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Naerivar people would associate natural disasters to the actions of a "god". thats totally unrational, since it would make no sense for this "god" to destroy what he created. would you destroy a machine you created for a reason and that served a purpose? no. then why would a supreme being do it? why did he create something to be destroyed in the first place? makes no sense.
papeldobrado 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Naerivar and yes, God should be called "It", but 2000 years ago, people didnt have that abstract notion of "not having sex". God shouldnt need anything, i mean, if It CREATED ALL, then It probably lived BEFORE there was ANYTHING. so why would It need it?
papeldobrado 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
An atheist is, per definition, someone who does not believe (And as such, it is not a faith). People who you call hard atheists do not really fit in that category. One can not prove the existence of god and one can't disprove it. So people who claim either are overstepping boundaries (and will have to inforce their arguments). I believe that most hard atheists only say 'there is no god' because they're tired of all the people who claim there is.
Naerivar 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Thank you for creating a video that is easy to watch and listen to. However, I disagree with your statements. People would view Dawkins, Harris and Hitchens as the most outspoken hard atheists of our time. All three do not claim absolute knowledge of the lack of existence. This "hard" view is false. Being and Agnostic and being and Atheist answer 2 different questions. "Do you believe in god", and "Does god exist". It is just as wrong to proclaim absolute knowledge of existence.
stringsbytoby 1 week ago
STFU u are a superficial bastard, as are most ranting christians on youtube.
who the hell do you think you are to tell us who we are. think about it would you go up to a Muslim and ask them this? huh?? would ya honestly??? HOW DARE YOU SAY I SHOULDN'T EXIST. i have plenty of proof, wheres YOURS!!!
team0switzerland1 1 week ago
It's funny hearing someone who believes in a man in the clouds talk about logic responsibility
Bradlyeon 1 week ago
I believe there is an M&M that lives in the sky for every person on earth. This M&M watches over us and directs our life, demands we pray to it, helps us in sporting events and allows us to live in the land of M&M's upon death. Do you believe in my religious views, do you flatly deny the existence of the M&M gods or do you think that maybe it is true? Your argument is the same. Doesn't mean I can't go on worshiping my M&M god and you can't go on worshiping your bearded man in the sky.
bighedz100 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I was gonna type a huge paragraph correcting your definition of agnosticism...nah...won't do it....you're retarded...i'm an agnostic atheist and i should not exist.
EddLiam 1 week ago
No athiests should not exist!!
batmanfanforever08 1 week ago
Atheists gunna hate. :P
CharlieSKYLINE 1 week ago
you know your argument works against you too
Josearnaldomanuel2 1 week ago
Jesus isnt cool, thats why i dont believe. jesus cramps my style dude
benwil1785 1 week ago
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RECurseTO 1 week ago
Read a book besides the bible, maybe you'll learn something.
MongoMecrob 1 week ago
Mr.Ministry Man, more like Mr.Moron Man
ygtfdfghgfdftytrtyty 1 week ago
See, the problem with the argument laid out in this video comes back to the burden of proof argument that you brought forward in a previous video. If you're going to assert that there should be no hardline atheists because it's illogical to make such a hard claim, by the same merit there should also be no hardline believers of any kind regarding this issue, meaning that your own beliefs are null and void in the eyes of your logic and you should convert to a stance of agnosticism...
AdamLloyd128 1 week ago
@AdamLloyd128 Unless of course you believe that your views can be justified, in which case you must allow that a position of hard atheism can be justified to the same extent (or better, I would assert. You should read the numerous books Dawkins has come out with, his arguments are pretty powerful). To summarise: either you're right about this and therefore should not be a Christian Or you're justified in being a Christian and this video is wrong. Fun times.
AdamLloyd128 1 week ago
Can I just say I hate you?! I'm not an Athiest. I'm not a Christian. I'm not Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Lutheran, none of those. I'm a Deist. Meaning there could be a "god" and there could easily not be because NOBODY KNOWS. NO ONE ALIVE TODAY WAS THERE WHEN THE WORLD WAS CREATED. Sure, I accept that you believe there's a dead man watching us all.
TheMisaokusakabe 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Hmmm... I started off with a negative view on your video sir... (I feel I am, for the most part, an atheist). However, you have made a decent argument here... Nice to see someone who really thinks about their position in religion and develops a stance on atheism rather than just spewing-out religious "facts" and "shooing" your, for lack of a better word, "opponents" away. Not bad sir, not bad...
super17janemba 2 weeks ago
@MrMinistryMan pure and pointless discussion, as atheïst, no proof, as christian, no proof, no god, god, we all look up for a sign or to look for an explaination,
Should religion exist, to me is an even more important question, since more man and women have been killed because of religion then any other man made invention....
religion is niether bad nor good but why nag over something which nobody can really answer.
you believe what you want to believe, I believe what I believe, we all live...
007mano1 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I don't think that there is a God, and this makes me an atheist, not an agnostic.
TheKamikazeen 2 weeks ago
I wouldn't say: There is no God. I'd say: I don't see any valid evidence that points to the existance of any God, though I'm not all-knowing and therefor my perception of reality may be completely inaccurate. A christian would probably say something like this: God exists because that old book in my bookshelf says so, and as we all know, all that is written is true.
TheKamikazeen 2 weeks ago
@TheKamikazeen Do you believe your history book?
MinecraftIndy74 2 weeks ago
Was there a point in there? You know, that matters?
jdplatham 2 weeks ago
You're kind of a bullshitter, aren't you? I mean. You're asking us to use logic against someone who doesn't care about logic. What sense does that make?
In all honesty, it is like watching a toddler trying to form coherent sentences. Very cute! x3
Q9R42 2 weeks ago
exclusion in terms of that love, i.e homosexuals, even though homosexuality is scientifically proven as a natural occurring anomaly in many species of animal. Also, being a woman, I find it hard to subscribe to a doctrine that views Human Equality as a bad thing. My Atheism is less about proving you wrong about the existence of God, and more about seeing the corruption, hypocrisies, and hate disguised as "beliefs", and not wanting to be a part of that at all.
ImYourHuckelberry88 2 weeks ago
Of course we exist. It's kind of a bold and arrogant statement to make, that we can't of shouldn't exist. My personal feeling is that I hold a deeper belief in science and less in the belief that stories which were passed down by word of mouth for 30+ years then written, rewritten, translated, edited by kings, then rewritten are literal truth. I also don't understand the contradiction, in Christianity specifically, of the teachings of universal love while simultaneously preaching notions of...
ImYourHuckelberry88 2 weeks ago
Atheists exist, because accepting the possibility of God is not believing in God. Belief is being convinced of something, without evidence. So your saying that a person who can't decide on what cereal to eat... must presumably want to eat Fruit Loops, and is in denial? Agnosticism is the indifference towards the existence of God, as there is no evidence one way or the other. So where do you get the idea that Agnostics are just closet theists...?!?!
Deamonslayer3001 2 weeks ago
Part 2: Agnostics make room in their lives for the possibility of a god, thus they refrain from looking up at the sky and shouting "Strike me down, you piece of sh@t" whereas I gladly do so because I make absolutely no room for a god. THAT is the fundamental difference between an atheist and an agnostic. ....
TravelingSAfrican 2 weeks ago
Good god... Where's the button to shut this guy up?? Never have I heard so much bullshit spewed from one mouth. You set very different standards about how to judge a christian and how do judge an atheist. By you saying that atheists can just as well be labeled agnostics, you should group all christians in said group. Neither groups have proof, thus neither group can be proved WRONG or RIGHT.
TravelingSAfrican 2 weeks ago
Continued due to limited text - I label myself as a Atheistic Agnostic merely for the one fact. I cannot disprove your god or anyone elses god. However, you can't prove one exists either. So would it be fair to insist on you changing your belief system into a Theistic Agnostic. Since were ruling out absolutes and all.
Klorel5178 2 weeks ago
This was actually an interesting video. However, your logic could easily be placed as an opposite. Where is your basis for belief in a deity as an absolute. With your own logic all theists are actually "soft" theists and should be labeled as agnostics as well. You can no more prove there is a god than I can disprove the existence of one. I will admit though that this was a rare first to come across a thinking theist even though your thought process is limited by your subjective perspective.
Klorel5178 2 weeks ago
i like your videos, I'm what you called a strong atheist, but what i like about these videos is that you strongly believe your faith, as i do. you argue your point, when ever i have discussions with anybody about the exsistance of god they get angry, change the subject or get very upset. that to me shows that they are not deffinate if their belief of god if they cant argue their point. very intersting topic and the arguements in this thread is great!
SamAndAlexVideos 2 weeks ago
and what is this shit with "no evidence" ? There is a lot of evidence that there is no god, just because there IS NO. For example: We dont see amputees get healed, prayers did not get answered(a study showed that prayers are useless), children die slow, people get all kinds of terrible diseases ect. the world looks like there is no god, especialy no christian god. You are a IGNORANT idiot, get some friends, attention whore.
DerMacDuff 2 weeks ago
lol where is your basis for your absolute truth?? in your video series i had to click on the "i accept that there are absolute truths" or something, oh well get a life, you suck
DerMacDuff 2 weeks ago
I will say that you seem to have a bit of an equivocation fallacy going with the whole Atheism Vs no faith whatsoever.
Zarren364 2 weeks ago
As an Atheist, I will say that God does in fact exist. In the minds of those who believe in God.
Zarren364 2 weeks ago
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Zarren364 2 weeks ago
just a quick comment on the number of dislikes: this video(and the others put out by MrMinistryMan for as many as I have seen) are well made, display clear thoughts of logic and are entirely preferable to some of the other..... "arguments" floating around youtube.
Abaddunskin 2 weeks ago
by that logic, all Christians should lean towards agnosticism. Where is their solid proof? They are making the solid, positive claims that he does 100% exist, but where has been the proof? The logic that a supernatural, perfect being that cares about you and me does exist because we can't prove he doesn't exist is more fallible ludicrous than believing he doesn't exist because there is no evidence for him, in any sense. But I do understand your point, even if I disagree with it.
haha3496 2 weeks ago
well we don't hav proof of god either so how can you say that they are ridiculous when noone has proof of either they besieve there is no god we believe different no one can say anything more bcuz no one has evidence of either
coldplay230 2 weeks ago
By the definition you give there are no Christians either... by the way you cannot have any absolutes about ANYTHING else then you own existent or mathematics for example 2+2=4 is always true!
Peonardon 2 weeks ago
@Peonardon
Lies! 2+2 is not always 4... in base 3 it is 11, and in base four it is 10 ^_^
pringletot 2 weeks ago