Just saying God does exit is a FOOLISH argument. You 'NEED TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE' in order to convince intelligent people. FACT is that THEISTS are the ones running around making "claims" that a god exists and nonbelievers "RESPOND" to the faith claims. If theists never made their claims to begin with there would be no word "god". YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE OLD AND WEAK.
You can't prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist so he does???
You say faith is illogical. I agree. Atheists don't believe in God because there's NO EVIDENCE for God, it's not faith based. Faith is when you DO believe in something without evidence. Calling Atheism a religion is like calling abstinence a sex position!
You don't even have to watch a video about religion to know if it supports Theism or Atheism. All you have to do is look at the ratings. If they're high then it's an Atheist video, if they scrape the bottom in red they're religious.
Obviously there is a growing number of straight thinkers out there.
no atheist cares to prove a non-existence of your god(s)... theists are the only ones trying to confirm/prove their beliefs... we will leave you to your stones and ancient teachings, just dont bother us while we strive for the betterment of humanity... peace.
Not being able to prove that something does not exist is not a sound reason to conclude that it does exist. You can't prove that a teapot isn't orbiting a star in the Andromeda galaxy, but I doubt that you believe that it is. You can't prove that leprechauns have never existed either. Do you believe in leprechauns?
Pro tip: cross reference the term 'atheist' or 'atheism'. You will find that no belief or positive claim is inherent through all definitions. You are talking about a subgroup of atheism, the way talking about christianity would be talking about a subgroup of theism.
Prove unicorns don't exist, if you can't but still don't believe in unicorns you must be intellectually dishonest. I think I've got this apologist thing down pat, do I get a degree from the discovery institute now?
... you dont have to prove a disbelief. The burden of proof rests on the person making a claim. In this case about imaginary sky daddies. If we were to accept this line of reasoning you would have to accept any half cocked absurd bullshit but you dont you only accept the ones that go with your myths.
OK. You claim there is a God. Right? Show me your proof. So far nobody has presented any proof for Allah, or Yahweh or Hare Krishna or of any God, anywhere. So we do not take these claims seriously. That is atheism. Atheists do not need faith for anything, Atheism is a rejection of claims because of lack of evidence. it is your ancient nonsensical religious beliefs that are foolish. Sorry.
Where is God? Everywhere? Well, he is not here (not derived by faith, but derived by testable evidence), so God that is everywhere does not exist (by definition).
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life and the universe works don’t mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete and living cell, the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when no directing code or mechanisms existed in nature?
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or a cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
BURDEN OF PROOF: Atheists claim we’re here by chance. They have the burden of proof. What if you discovered a sand castle on a beach but you didn't see anyone make it,and there are no fingerprints (maybe the wind blew them away?), but if you say the sand castle happened by chance forces of wind and waves, you have the burden of proof.. The person who believes someone made it doesn’t have the burden of proof. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
BURDEN OF PROOF: Atheists claim we’re here by chance. They have the burden of proof. What if you discovered a sand castle on a beach but you didn't see anyone make it,and there are no fingerprints (maybe the wind blew them away?), but if you say the sand castle happened by chance forces of wind and waves, you have the burden of proof.. The person who believes someone made it doesn’t have the burden of proof. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
I'm sorry what, you can hold a negative position, however it is impossible to prove that a negative position exists. If there is an un-openable box you can say that there are an infinite amount of things that it cannot contain. It would be ridiculous to say that one must prove what is NOT in the box, though if there is a belief that something IS in the box, then there are ways that you need to go about proving that. If you can't see the difference then read a book on logical argument.
Atheists say "why God created such a vast space & restrict us to a tiny planet "
Reply ;
To show people as advanced in scientific knowledge as you,how tiny and insignificant you are in whole of his Creation and should feel his rightful supremacy on you.
Go win the space He has made subservient to you through your intelligence but remember that you cannot defeat God.
So be Thankful and recognise his ownership upon you.
Atheism certainly is not a faith based position. It is disbelief in god, due to the absence of evidence in support of the positive claim that god, exists.
Provide evidence of gods existence, positive verifiable proof that god exists. Do that and there will be no more atheists.
u misunderstand atheism..atheism is not an assertion or claim that god doesn't exist..it's a lack of belief that god exists..for example, if u had a closed box, and told me that u read in a holy book that there was a unicorn in that box, i would lack belief until there was sufficient evidence..theism claims the existence of god, and atheists don't accept the claim..
Wow you convinced me never mind all of the intellectuals out their who deny the existence of god you have read ONE book and know you know the truth. Islam is not superb no religion is mate science has given us far more than religion could ever hope for.
I cannot, either believe or disbelieve in something if I have no way of knowing what it is. I have no way of knowing what the word god means therefore the question of it's existence is meaningless.
You come up with something tangible that the Flying Spaghetti monster doesn't exist. Just saying you dont' believe in him is really silly as you say. We can all have a fantasy that we believe in but that doesn't make them fact.
Why don't you come up with something tangible that you god exists and I will convert tomorrow.
@fake2 "We can all have a fantasy that we believe in but that doesn't make them fact."
it also doesn't make it fact that its a "fantasy"simply because you call it a fantasy. Asking to prove a being exists that can simply will itself not to be sensed at all is like asking somebody to hold the wind in their hands.....also ...since when should a divinity even be cowed by our will to make themself evident for our satisfaction?
Chewbacca defense #3 "Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests"
"Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? "
You're using The Chewbacca defense in defense of your religion. You make no sense my boy
"Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!"
I'm sorry I don't mean to be harsh or anything, but you REALLY have no idea what atheism is, and you also have a VERY bad understanding of evidence. Believe whatever the hell you want, but don't make false claims like "There is an ample amount of evidence for God" when there isn't, or else there would be no such thing as atheism/agnosticism.
This is the picture of your next S. bomer guy. Absolutely no god exists and there are a myriad of reasons. Why? Hydrogen was in our universe millions of years before oxygen. Therefore a god couldn't have created the universe all at once. But that's too complicated for a theist to even understand. So what now?
@jellygiraffe: We've provided ample of proofs for God; it's up to you not to believe in them. When you reject God, and still hold the belief that He exists not, you must havd basis for you belief-- you don't have any, as you always say. Am afraid it's faith that's holding your claim.
@Sohyb09 Did I miss a meeting? you have provided, not only proof of the existence of a God, but proof that it is the God of your faith? Why was this not on the news? To be blunt with you, I do not have faith in ANYTHING. I accept or reject claims depending on what evidence there is to back them up. If you have proof of Gods existence, please provide references. I am perfectly willing to listen, think and decide. Until you can show me proof, not just claim you have it, I will remain skeptical.
@Sohyb09 "We've provided ample proof of god".... No you haven't, that's why there's a growing number of atheists. You can't prove the existence of a god, and science hasn't proved/disproved the existence of a diety. But the more science uncovers, the more religion loses validity. Science contradicts so much of the religious text, and religious people just ignore it and says science is false. But science can prove why it's wrong, religon can't.
@Sohyb09 "We've provided ample of proofs for God; it's up to you not to believe in them. When you reject God, and still hold the belief that He exists not, you must havd basis for you belief"
Look. If there were "ample proofs" we would be believing in your god. We do not reject "God", we reject your pitiful attempts at showing that "God" is real. That your "ample proofs" amount to inane drivel is all we believe. This is not due to faith, but due to technical problems with theistic arguments.
@Sohyb09 There is no accepted proof for a godly being. And no, those books written over a 1000 or more years ago don't count, as they should be looked at in a more symbolic/ historic way. Also you seem to have your definition of atheïsm wrong. It is not believing there is no God or faith, it is a rejection of faith itself.
Theists claim that God exist, Atheists reject that claim as there is no proof. The burden of proof is the on the ones making the claim, not the ones rejecting it. Why is this so hard to understand?
I dont claim that God does not exist, I merely ask for proof, or at least evidence that he does. I make the same request for any claim before I accept it, its called being rational.
@jellygiraffe I, as you, do not make claims that a god does not exist. What I DO claim, is that the god espoused by religion does not exist. As you pointed out, they are the ones making the claims without real evidence. It really is irritating that theists don't understand this position.
@JoM80: This video is about atheism NOT Christianity. I've touched on the topic of Jesus and his alleged divinity in some of my videos. Check my channel Sir, you'll find them.
Sohyb09, good job on talking about the existence of God. The only thing that I would disagree with you is when you say Jesus was a prophet. Jesus stated that he existed before Moses. No other prophet was able to raise the dead. Jesus is definitely the new covenant that burns in our hearts.
you can't prove that a god does exist, we don't need to disprove god, all we need to do is laugh at you fuckers when you fail to provide sufficient evidence for your bullshit religion.
you do understand that without evidence, its safe to presume that it doesn't exist. A majority of atheist are agnostic atheist. They not know that god doesn't exist, however they do not believe that he does. Because there is no evidence to support the position. The burden of proof falls upon the theist, they are the ones making such claims that he does exist. you are making out case quite well when you understand that you cannot prove a negative.
A negative, sceptical view is the default against anyone making a claim. It is also what believers use, because "if you can't prove that god doesn't exist, then he MUST exist!" ... which is a stupid statement. Why is it stupid? because neither you or I can disprove Valhalla. Does that mean Valhalla exists?
If I where you I'd start praying to the almighty god of darkness. The fallen angel sees everything. He will throw over your puny little god, who relies on such cowardly blasphemy spreading worms like you to make ppl believe in his lies. There will be no paradise. Only eternal suffering in hell is waiting. Join the dark lord and free yourself from your weakening god. Only then you will have a chance to become one of hells guardians. Decide otherwise and be tortured for eternity!
Yes, your god may have created you and your brothers in belief. But it is not his to rule. Satan will overthrow the light. Eternal darkness shall reign. Devote your soul to Satan! Or give your blood to satisfy the thirst of hells legions, once the battle for the devils rightful claim on all human souls has begun. Save yourself while you still can! PRAISE SATAN!!!
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I am not going to claim anything. Why is your god the true god? You are making a positive claim i would like you to back up your argument with research and data.
We went over this on another vid Sohyb. Not believing in something does not take faith or belief. Do you believe in bigfoot? The lochness monster? You don't take it on faith these things don't exist, no one has been able to show them to you. Not believing something \=\ faith in it's non existence.
nitramrot: You argued that you don't believe in God. But at thesame time, you can't prove why. Now, you tell me what's the basis of your claim if not faith? Maybe belief?
greg100795: Islamic Theism, as I said, has it's own two legs to stand on: Faith and Reason plus logic and consistency. Allah is one. Why? Cus two or more Ilah's (Allah's) will conflict the universe. Allah exists. Why? Cus there must be a creator for the creation. Are you the creator? You tell me NO!
@Sohyb09 No religion ever has been able to claim logic as a tool in an effort for acceptance. This is precisely why the theist must claim that faith is a virtue; because he has nothing else.
Faith in a text, this is all you have. If you claim logic, you will be undone.
Your line 'there must be a creator for the creation' assumes that the universe was created by something.
Your argument assumes itself to be correct. It would be like saying, 'That person rides a bicycle. We know because he's a bicyclist!' - circular reasoning.
In real life we can observe this person riding a bicycle. This is evidence they are a bicyclist.
@Telamnar "Your argument assumes itself to be correct. It would be like saying, 'That person rides a bicycle. We know because he's a bicyclist!' - circular reasoning."
not quite qualified as circular reasoning. A dog has 4 legs...that animal has 4 legs, therefor it must be a dog. Whereas logic decrees that from nothing-nothing comes. Therfor the "something" that the universe is comprised of must come from "something" or "someone" ...inanimate objects don't "create" therefor one option left.
@hexusziggurat Unless it's a cat. Your counter-example is not of the same form as the argument he presented. Again, saying 'The universe is a creation. Creations have creators!' is circular.
The problem with applying logic to cosmology is that common assumptions about space and time that are perfectly good approximations of normal experience are wrong. Science - reason based on evidence - is the only practical guide. Logic allows unsupported assumptions.
@Telamnar "Science - reason based on evidence - is the only practical guide. Logic allows unsupported assumptions."
science being the ONLY practical guide is also an assumption. Science without logic is basically a ship without a rudder. Science cannot escape logic & remain viable to humans. The rules of science break down at the quantum level...so it's not always the "best" tool ...it's not obsolete but perhaps a better tool can be made use of...same would go for things we call spiritual.
(Do I believe in your magical unicorn"? No! Reason: because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that magical unicorn exist. You don't have reason nor basis that my God doesn't exist.)
Ohh sure we do, because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that your God exists. that simple.
Atheism is not faith, and understand that by your own logic, you have just supported atheism. Belief in god has no leg to stand on, as the only evidence, which is not a valid source, is just books written thousands of years ago, which were written based on no evidence whatsoever. maybe don't talk without thinking how it can hurt your own argument
Listen Sohybe09, if you claim that islam and allah is true based on reason, then demonstrate it! Until you have demonstrated that this religion is true, you cant demand people to believe it.
Atheism is not faith! its like saing that not playing soccer is a sport! If we argue that YOU have not demonstrated with FACTS that Islam is true, this is not a faith-based argument! It is based on facts and logic. So why are you saying it is faith-based??
Even if it was true that atheism requires faith, at least it is an understandable faith. For instance: You could have the belief that you aren't gay because you like pussy. This may be a negative argument, but it's more understandable than the belief that you like dick. Positive arguments are not always more logical just because they're provable. Although atheism is still a lack of belief, it would still be more logical than the belief of an invisible sky wizard (if atheism was a belief at all.)
@CymroGoch "No you dumb shit, atheism is a lack of faith or a lack of belief, not a negative one. You believers are the ones who need to prove your beliefs."
In the scales of belief or "disbelief" that rails one way or another.....both have burden of proof. The only worldview that would be absent of any burden is one that has no claim....agnosticism.
@sgm2005fu: The problem with atheists is that, they claim that there's no God and zip their mouth up. Your claims are on empty basis if it's not faith-based.
@Sohyb09 I think you profoundly misunderstand atheism. Atheists claim nothing. The theist makes claims, claims supported only by faith. Atheists lack this faith. Atheists claim nothing.
In fact with respect to all gods except one, you are an atheist. You lack faith in the existence of Zeus, Thor and Ahura Mazda. I simply lack faith in one more god than you.
No. The most you can claim about all atheists is that we do not accept (or find belief in) the existence of gods. That is all. Some atheists will go further and argue for the absence of gods, but all atheists, by definition, only fail to accept the theist's position.
When you understand why you personally fail to accept the existence of Zeus, Thor or Ahura Mazda, then you will understand why I fail to accept the existence of your god.
Atheism isn't a "negative claim", it's a "non claim". It is in response to a positive claim "there is a god" which we reject, and we are therefore called "agnostic atheists". You make a claim, you must prove it, not us.
The burden of proof is always on the one claiming that something exists.
Faith is not scientific, it's cultural.
I can prove in many ways that the literal god of the bible does not exist, but since faith is excactly that, -faith. I can tell you things you don't know, but to make anyone stop believing in what they have chosen to believe in is probably a futile experiment to begin with.
Here's where you are wrong. Faith is believing in nonsense without a shred of evidence to back it up (i.e., invisible people, talking snakes, magic, etc.) Atheism is simply refusing to believe in things that don't exist. Your argument fails.
Sohyb09: Atheists don't claim to KNOW that god does NOT exist. They simply reject the claim that god DOES exist due to the LACK of evidence for this belief.
Wayneready. No! No! No! Retard! The Quran didn't say the earth is flat! And islam is base on 2 prisms (a) Faith and (b) Reason. But you've the former only and falsely claim the later.
We know about evolution, climate, and that the earth is round... not flat, unlike your god who for some reason knows only what humans knew at the time the quran was written. Why did he get these things that we know know to be true wrong? Is that faith in no god as you proclaim
You are so unbelievably dumb. You want atheists to present an argument that we have faith in no god? We don't need to prove that there is no god, I can prove that in your case, your... dessert god...your alah...is not god.
@Adeon55 i will choke this one i swear....this guys a moron, i wish he would make a video with his argument, hes talking about us making a video supporting our claim that there is no god. First of all i never said that there isn't one. Wouldn't you like to see this guy prove that there is one. I think he's the one making foolish claims and unreasonable arguments, not atheists. Come on give us a good argument that your god is real Sohyb09, I think we would all love to hear you out, make a video
This had to be the most pathetic defense of religious beliefs ever to cross the mind of man. Atheism is not based on faith because faith is not even a valid means of obtaining knowledge. The onus of proving that God exists is on you since you are the one making the claim, although you are the one basing that claim on faith and not facts. You yourself stated that faith is illogical, if this is the case then the same idea applies in a religious context as well.
@Sohyb09 - WRONG. Atheism is LACK of belief. Theism is belief. Atheists reject claims of magical, invisible people, talking snakes and other such rot. Theist believe in them. Atheists do not claim to have absolute knowledge about anything. Theists do. Understand?
@jtheist. "Do I believe in your magical unicorn"? No! Reason: because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that magical unicorn exist. You don't have reason nor basis that my God doesn't exist. Faith is what hold your position as an atheist!
And you're saying that there is more scientific and philsophical evidence for gods than there is for magical unicorns? That sounds like it needs to be substantiated.
@Sohyb09 "Reason: because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that magical unicorn exist."
which is the position of many atheists.
"You don't have reason nor basis that my God doesn't exist. Faith is what hold your position as an atheist!"
what? you say you don't believe in unicorns because they can't be proven, right? well, that's why atheists don't believe that god is real. can you disprove unicorns?
Wow. Almost 5 minutes of babbling and you've said nothing. Atheism is the rejection of your belief in a God. Here is a direct analogy.
Do you believe in my magical unicorn?
Why not? Please provide evidence to prove your negative assertion.
Atheism is not a faith, nor does it require us to "prove" anything. I asserted I have a magic unicorn, therefore I must prove that true. You are not required to provide proof to the contrary. You assert god exists, therefore the burden to prove it is on you.
you coming at us all wrong..i dont even know where to begin..atheism is a nonbelief...the burden of proof is on you...we are not convinced therefore its up to you to prove it....atheism isnt asserting or claiming anything...you defeated yo self in the cheese moon analogy...apply that to allah which means you gonna need proof
@MassacreBlast. How sure are you that God does'nt exist? 70%? 50%? 30%? If you aren't sure enough that God does'nt exist why hold on to atheism ? "Life meaningless"? Are you serious? Maybe your life (and that of other atheists) is meaningless and not our (theists) life.
@Aanthanur. To say you don't believe in God begs a question why? You can't prove a negative! As an intellectual human being (not animal or object), base on what do you believe "there is no God"?
So by yur definition atheism is another " religion " that believe in " somthing " i.e. " not believing in God ". Am I correct...atheism is a religion ??
@Aanthanur no. but do you believe in the flying spaghetti monster?
If atheist dont believe in the flying spaghetti monster than....why mentioned about it in the first place ?? Do atheist have affinity with kids talk like....my dad has bigger muscle than your dad !....atheists have never failed to giv me a good laugh......hehehe
@TheDazednconfused Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the ABSENCE of belief that any deities exist.
Look, it's obvious that God doesn't exist. We can't say for sure 100% but it's just common sense that things in life, our existence, are rather meaningless. Meaning is something we as humans invented. Really there is no meaning and if we blow ourselves up before the Universe implodes or suffers heat death, things will keep on rolling and the pieces will fall where they may.
How is it faith if i don't see enough evidence for gods? It isn't faith its just a perspective. You mixing up your ideological ideas of religion with atheism and getting it wrong. Atheism says we don't believe in a god because we don't see or have enough evidence to prove it. Along with the evidence that religion keeps getting shit wrong or contradicting itself. We don't need faith we are using what we see. The correct thing to point out is that we have a perspective of there being no god.
I don't think you understand what atheism or belief are. Does someone need faith to disbelieve in faeries? Does someone need faith to disbelieve in aliens? Does someone need faith to disbelieve in yetis? Atheism is about saying "I don't believe in gods because I don't find it convincing". Atheism is NOT about saying "there are no gods" because no one can disprove gods, faeries, aliens, or yetis. The way reality works is that things don't exist until proven.
atheists do not necessarily hold the position that god does not exist, that is what you'd call an antitheist, of which i am -- and i would be willing to provide a justifiable reason why god does not exist, one based on evidence and argument.
You misunderstand the atheist position. An atheist does not necessarily believe that there is no god, an atheist does not believe that a god exists, there is a subtle but real difference. As such, atheism does not make a claim, but rather rejects theistic claims. do you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Can you prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist? No? Then you should believe. See where that fails?
I came here to answer a statement from another user. Then your video starts playing and the only thing I want to say again is "Fuck you're stupid." Your logical fallacies are absolutely laughable. You're a total fucking moron. It's up to you to prove your God exists. Not the other way around. Why don't you prove Santa Claus doesn't exist, fucktard? You're gay, and it's up to you to prove that you're not gay. Get the point retard?
Just saying God does exit is a FOOLISH argument. You 'NEED TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE' in order to convince intelligent people. FACT is that THEISTS are the ones running around making "claims" that a god exists and nonbelievers "RESPOND" to the faith claims. If theists never made their claims to begin with there would be no word "god". YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE OLD AND WEAK.
mythicalhell 1 week ago
You can't prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist so he does???
You say faith is illogical. I agree. Atheists don't believe in God because there's NO EVIDENCE for God, it's not faith based. Faith is when you DO believe in something without evidence. Calling Atheism a religion is like calling abstinence a sex position!
LOL
warren52nz 2 weeks ago
You don't even have to watch a video about religion to know if it supports Theism or Atheism. All you have to do is look at the ratings. If they're high then it's an Atheist video, if they scrape the bottom in red they're religious.
Obviously there is a growing number of straight thinkers out there.
warren52nz 2 weeks ago
Matt Slick... realy? the same guy who claims some people are 'demonic' as in possessed by demons?
..you two really need to grow up, lmao.
turtle5181 4 weeks ago
no atheist cares to prove a non-existence of your god(s)... theists are the only ones trying to confirm/prove their beliefs... we will leave you to your stones and ancient teachings, just dont bother us while we strive for the betterment of humanity... peace.
turtle5181 4 weeks ago
distance yourself from the doctrine... and pick up some books my friend.
turtle5181 4 weeks ago
Not being able to prove that something does not exist is not a sound reason to conclude that it does exist. You can't prove that a teapot isn't orbiting a star in the Andromeda galaxy, but I doubt that you believe that it is. You can't prove that leprechauns have never existed either. Do you believe in leprechauns?
FosterZygote 1 month ago
God does exist as a tribalistic group identity but there is no super human like
mind that exists outside the heads of humans. Minds do not create matter and matter
does not create minds as mind/matter are inseperable. It does not take "faith" to believe
in a natural world where things "are" what they are but it does take faith to believe in a
supernatural/unnatural world where things are more than they are. You will find yourself
when you discover god.
mentalphysicalism 1 month ago
Pro tip: cross reference the term 'atheist' or 'atheism'. You will find that no belief or positive claim is inherent through all definitions. You are talking about a subgroup of atheism, the way talking about christianity would be talking about a subgroup of theism.
urcorrect 2 months ago
Prove unicorns don't exist, if you can't but still don't believe in unicorns you must be intellectually dishonest. I think I've got this apologist thing down pat, do I get a degree from the discovery institute now?
cannibalcarrot666 2 months ago
Did he just say Atheist 'Evangelists'? WTF?!
harisri13 2 months ago
... you dont have to prove a disbelief. The burden of proof rests on the person making a claim. In this case about imaginary sky daddies. If we were to accept this line of reasoning you would have to accept any half cocked absurd bullshit but you dont you only accept the ones that go with your myths.
NefariousVirtuoso88 3 months ago
You can prove a negative, e.g., "there is no non-zero real number x that solves 2x=x". Your argument does not make any sense.
RicardoAlfredo 4 months ago
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Evidence of No God:
Thought is produced by physical means i.e. Electro-Chemical reactions in the Brain.
Result: The Ultimate in thought can not be intangible.
Conclusion: No God
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
OK. You claim there is a God. Right? Show me your proof. So far nobody has presented any proof for Allah, or Yahweh or Hare Krishna or of any God, anywhere. So we do not take these claims seriously. That is atheism. Atheists do not need faith for anything, Atheism is a rejection of claims because of lack of evidence. it is your ancient nonsensical religious beliefs that are foolish. Sorry.
ofosusam 4 months ago
Where is God? Everywhere? Well, he is not here (not derived by faith, but derived by testable evidence), so God that is everywhere does not exist (by definition).
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 5 months ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
Mogley52 5 months ago
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
Mogley52 5 months ago
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THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions of tons of Earth soil)
Mogley52 5 months ago
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
Mogley52 5 months ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life and the universe works don’t mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete and living cell, the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell originate when no directing code or mechanisms existed in nature?
Mogley52 5 months ago
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or a cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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SCIENTISTS HAVE NEVER CREATED LIFE. And, even if they do it won't be by chance but by intelligent design. By genetically engineering already existing forms of life, scientists have produced new forms of life, but they did not produce these new life forms from non-living matter. Even in synthetic life, scientists design and build DNA from scratch, through intelligent design, and then insert their man-made DNA into an already living cell. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
Mogley52 5 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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BURDEN OF PROOF: Atheists claim we’re here by chance. They have the burden of proof. What if you discovered a sand castle on a beach but you didn't see anyone make it,and there are no fingerprints (maybe the wind blew them away?), but if you say the sand castle happened by chance forces of wind and waves, you have the burden of proof.. The person who believes someone made it doesn’t have the burden of proof. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 5 months ago
BURDEN OF PROOF: Atheists claim we’re here by chance. They have the burden of proof. What if you discovered a sand castle on a beach but you didn't see anyone make it,and there are no fingerprints (maybe the wind blew them away?), but if you say the sand castle happened by chance forces of wind and waves, you have the burden of proof.. The person who believes someone made it doesn’t have the burden of proof. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 5 months ago
I'm sorry what, you can hold a negative position, however it is impossible to prove that a negative position exists. If there is an un-openable box you can say that there are an infinite amount of things that it cannot contain. It would be ridiculous to say that one must prove what is NOT in the box, though if there is a belief that something IS in the box, then there are ways that you need to go about proving that. If you can't see the difference then read a book on logical argument.
mikeybakes79 5 months ago
Atheists say "why God created such a vast space & restrict us to a tiny planet "
Reply ;
To show people as advanced in scientific knowledge as you,how tiny and insignificant you are in whole of his Creation and should feel his rightful supremacy on you.
Go win the space He has made subservient to you through your intelligence but remember that you cannot defeat God.
So be Thankful and recognise his ownership upon you.
peace4universe 5 months ago
We have faith in ourselves, and wheres the evidence that god exists?
WeLoveSonKIE 5 months ago
Atheism certainly is not a faith based position. It is disbelief in god, due to the absence of evidence in support of the positive claim that god, exists.
Provide evidence of gods existence, positive verifiable proof that god exists. Do that and there will be no more atheists.
6Untitled9 6 months ago
@peace4universe: Salam Brother, go ahead and mirrow and share as well
Sohyb09 8 months ago
@Sohyb09
u misunderstand atheism..atheism is not an assertion or claim that god doesn't exist..it's a lack of belief that god exists..for example, if u had a closed box, and told me that u read in a holy book that there was a unicorn in that box, i would lack belief until there was sufficient evidence..theism claims the existence of god, and atheists don't accept the claim..
itzahazylife 8 months ago
Assalamoalaikum
I want to mirror this video of mine as a response to Atheists.
peace4universe 8 months ago
Wow you convinced me never mind all of the intellectuals out their who deny the existence of god you have read ONE book and know you know the truth. Islam is not superb no religion is mate science has given us far more than religion could ever hope for.
TheXman300 9 months ago
I cannot, either believe or disbelieve in something if I have no way of knowing what it is. I have no way of knowing what the word god means therefore the question of it's existence is meaningless.
coolioto 9 months ago
You come up with something tangible that the Flying Spaghetti monster doesn't exist. Just saying you dont' believe in him is really silly as you say. We can all have a fantasy that we believe in but that doesn't make them fact.
Why don't you come up with something tangible that you god exists and I will convert tomorrow.
fake2 9 months ago
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@fake2 "We can all have a fantasy that we believe in but that doesn't make them fact."
it also doesn't make it fact that its a "fantasy"simply because you call it a fantasy. Asking to prove a being exists that can simply will itself not to be sensed at all is like asking somebody to hold the wind in their hands.....also ...since when should a divinity even be cowed by our will to make themself evident for our satisfaction?
hexusziggurat 8 months ago
Atheisim is asking for proof not faith . Faith does not = Proof.
fake2 9 months ago
i am 99.99999% sure there is no god or ghosts or fairys in the world. but i am 100% sure you are a moron
badgerboyUK 9 months ago
Chewbacca defense #3 "Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests"
bigboy45454545 10 months ago
Chewbacca defense #2
"Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? "
bigboy45454545 10 months ago
You're using The Chewbacca defense in defense of your religion. You make no sense my boy
"Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!"
bigboy45454545 10 months ago
Atheism is a lack of belief you retard. Do you believe in The Tooth Fairy because you can't disprove it? You're hopelessly retarded my boy.
bigboy45454545 10 months ago
Science proves God (or Gods) doesn't exist. It's not faith, it's facts.
viczam9 10 months ago
I'm sorry I don't mean to be harsh or anything, but you REALLY have no idea what atheism is, and you also have a VERY bad understanding of evidence. Believe whatever the hell you want, but don't make false claims like "There is an ample amount of evidence for God" when there isn't, or else there would be no such thing as atheism/agnosticism.
BARNEYRAPEDME69 11 months ago
This is the picture of your next S. bomer guy. Absolutely no god exists and there are a myriad of reasons. Why? Hydrogen was in our universe millions of years before oxygen. Therefore a god couldn't have created the universe all at once. But that's too complicated for a theist to even understand. So what now?
charlesfloyb 11 months ago
Please provide me one proof of God. I'll change to Islam right now.
bananabread119 11 months ago
I'm going through a lot of hard times right now and I don't think praying to God is working for me anymore...
Fitchslap 11 months ago
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you cant prove your position either. i just dont believe because you people cant prove it.
PirateMonkeyFilmz 11 months ago
Faith: The Basis for RELIGION
look I fixed it and it was so easy
VenomFagg0tX 11 months ago 14
@jellygiraffe: We've provided ample of proofs for God; it's up to you not to believe in them. When you reject God, and still hold the belief that He exists not, you must havd basis for you belief-- you don't have any, as you always say. Am afraid it's faith that's holding your claim.
Sohyb09 11 months ago
@Sohyb09 Did I miss a meeting? you have provided, not only proof of the existence of a God, but proof that it is the God of your faith? Why was this not on the news? To be blunt with you, I do not have faith in ANYTHING. I accept or reject claims depending on what evidence there is to back them up. If you have proof of Gods existence, please provide references. I am perfectly willing to listen, think and decide. Until you can show me proof, not just claim you have it, I will remain skeptical.
jellygiraffe 11 months ago
@Sohyb09 "We've provided ample proof of god".... No you haven't, that's why there's a growing number of atheists. You can't prove the existence of a god, and science hasn't proved/disproved the existence of a diety. But the more science uncovers, the more religion loses validity. Science contradicts so much of the religious text, and religious people just ignore it and says science is false. But science can prove why it's wrong, religon can't.
G33KSPALACEdotCOM 11 months ago
@Sohyb09 ample proofs? what are those?
chyrd 9 months ago
@Sohyb09 "We've provided ample of proofs for God; it's up to you not to believe in them. When you reject God, and still hold the belief that He exists not, you must havd basis for you belief"
Look. If there were "ample proofs" we would be believing in your god. We do not reject "God", we reject your pitiful attempts at showing that "God" is real. That your "ample proofs" amount to inane drivel is all we believe. This is not due to faith, but due to technical problems with theistic arguments.
Gnomefro 8 months ago
@Sohyb09
"We've provided ample of proofs for God"
name one..i can bet that u have very low standards for evidence.
what is your evidence?..the existence of life?..the existence of nature?
itzahazylife 8 months ago
@Sohyb09 There is no accepted proof for a godly being. And no, those books written over a 1000 or more years ago don't count, as they should be looked at in a more symbolic/ historic way. Also you seem to have your definition of atheïsm wrong. It is not believing there is no God or faith, it is a rejection of faith itself.
illistas 5 months ago
@Diognetus: "Am an atheist, I don't believe God does'nt exist". What do you believe?
Sohyb09 11 months ago
Theists claim that God exist, Atheists reject that claim as there is no proof. The burden of proof is the on the ones making the claim, not the ones rejecting it. Why is this so hard to understand?
I dont claim that God does not exist, I merely ask for proof, or at least evidence that he does. I make the same request for any claim before I accept it, its called being rational.
jellygiraffe 11 months ago
@jellygiraffe I, as you, do not make claims that a god does not exist. What I DO claim, is that the god espoused by religion does not exist. As you pointed out, they are the ones making the claims without real evidence. It really is irritating that theists don't understand this position.
raphanon 11 months ago
I am an atheist.
I don't believe God does not exist. Clearly there is a problem with your reasoning.
Diognetus 11 months ago
@JoM80: This video is about atheism NOT Christianity. I've touched on the topic of Jesus and his alleged divinity in some of my videos. Check my channel Sir, you'll find them.
Sohyb09 11 months ago
Sohyb09, good job on talking about the existence of God. The only thing that I would disagree with you is when you say Jesus was a prophet. Jesus stated that he existed before Moses. No other prophet was able to raise the dead. Jesus is definitely the new covenant that burns in our hearts.
JoM80 11 months ago
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I have a question for you. Do you believe in leprechauns?
No?
Prove it.
JimboWizbo 11 months ago
I stopped the video when I heard your accent.
AgrivatedKillah 11 months ago
you can't prove that a god does exist, we don't need to disprove god, all we need to do is laugh at you fuckers when you fail to provide sufficient evidence for your bullshit religion.
kharon8 11 months ago
you do understand that without evidence, its safe to presume that it doesn't exist. A majority of atheist are agnostic atheist. They not know that god doesn't exist, however they do not believe that he does. Because there is no evidence to support the position. The burden of proof falls upon the theist, they are the ones making such claims that he does exist. you are making out case quite well when you understand that you cannot prove a negative.
Hereticofreason 11 months ago
A negative, sceptical view is the default against anyone making a claim. It is also what believers use, because "if you can't prove that god doesn't exist, then he MUST exist!" ... which is a stupid statement. Why is it stupid? because neither you or I can disprove Valhalla. Does that mean Valhalla exists?
speider 11 months ago
If I where you I'd start praying to the almighty god of darkness. The fallen angel sees everything. He will throw over your puny little god, who relies on such cowardly blasphemy spreading worms like you to make ppl believe in his lies. There will be no paradise. Only eternal suffering in hell is waiting. Join the dark lord and free yourself from your weakening god. Only then you will have a chance to become one of hells guardians. Decide otherwise and be tortured for eternity!
CobaltsSatanaS 11 months ago
Yes, your god may have created you and your brothers in belief. But it is not his to rule. Satan will overthrow the light. Eternal darkness shall reign. Devote your soul to Satan! Or give your blood to satisfy the thirst of hells legions, once the battle for the devils rightful claim on all human souls has begun. Save yourself while you still can! PRAISE SATAN!!!
CobaltsSatanaS 11 months ago
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CobaltsSatanaS 11 months ago
I am not going to claim anything. Why is your god the true god? You are making a positive claim i would like you to back up your argument with research and data.
MrItachi555 11 months ago
We went over this on another vid Sohyb. Not believing in something does not take faith or belief. Do you believe in bigfoot? The lochness monster? You don't take it on faith these things don't exist, no one has been able to show them to you. Not believing something \=\ faith in it's non existence.
TheMightyPatapon 11 months ago
nitramrot: You argued that you don't believe in God. But at thesame time, you can't prove why. Now, you tell me what's the basis of your claim if not faith? Maybe belief?
Sohyb09 11 months ago
greg100795: Islamic Theism, as I said, has it's own two legs to stand on: Faith and Reason plus logic and consistency. Allah is one. Why? Cus two or more Ilah's (Allah's) will conflict the universe. Allah exists. Why? Cus there must be a creator for the creation. Are you the creator? You tell me NO!
Sohyb09 11 months ago
@Sohyb09 No religion ever has been able to claim logic as a tool in an effort for acceptance. This is precisely why the theist must claim that faith is a virtue; because he has nothing else.
Faith in a text, this is all you have. If you claim logic, you will be undone.
sgm2005fu 11 months ago
@Sohyb09 There is a hidden assumption here:
Your line 'there must be a creator for the creation' assumes that the universe was created by something.
Your argument assumes itself to be correct. It would be like saying, 'That person rides a bicycle. We know because he's a bicyclist!' - circular reasoning.
In real life we can observe this person riding a bicycle. This is evidence they are a bicyclist.
What evidence is there for a creator god?
Telamnar 8 months ago
@Telamnar "Your argument assumes itself to be correct. It would be like saying, 'That person rides a bicycle. We know because he's a bicyclist!' - circular reasoning."
not quite qualified as circular reasoning. A dog has 4 legs...that animal has 4 legs, therefor it must be a dog. Whereas logic decrees that from nothing-nothing comes. Therfor the "something" that the universe is comprised of must come from "something" or "someone" ...inanimate objects don't "create" therefor one option left.
hexusziggurat 8 months ago
@hexusziggurat Unless it's a cat. Your counter-example is not of the same form as the argument he presented. Again, saying 'The universe is a creation. Creations have creators!' is circular.
The problem with applying logic to cosmology is that common assumptions about space and time that are perfectly good approximations of normal experience are wrong. Science - reason based on evidence - is the only practical guide. Logic allows unsupported assumptions.
Telamnar 8 months ago
@Telamnar "Science - reason based on evidence - is the only practical guide. Logic allows unsupported assumptions."
science being the ONLY practical guide is also an assumption. Science without logic is basically a ship without a rudder. Science cannot escape logic & remain viable to humans. The rules of science break down at the quantum level...so it's not always the "best" tool ...it's not obsolete but perhaps a better tool can be made use of...same would go for things we call spiritual.
hexusziggurat 8 months ago
@hexusziggurat Actually, no they don't. The universe still lets us perform experiments and make predictions and so on, even at the subatomic level.
However, if you think you have a better way of doing things, go for it!
By the way, I specified that by science I meant 'reason and evidence'; I meant 'reason' to include logic.
Telamnar 8 months ago
@Telamnar sounds great Telamnar. peace be with you.
hexusziggurat 8 months ago
DMFmonster: There must be a creator for a creation; as there must be an artist for a piece of art. God is the creator for all the creations.
Sohyb09 11 months ago 2
@Sohyb09 well then who created God because as you said ' there must be a creator for creation'
G30RG31232 9 months ago
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@G30RG31232 "well then who created God" infinite regress.....the only uncaused cause...etc .....look into that further.
hexusziggurat 8 months ago
(Do I believe in your magical unicorn"? No! Reason: because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that magical unicorn exist. You don't have reason nor basis that my God doesn't exist.)
Ohh sure we do, because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that your God exists. that simple.
bananabread119 11 months ago
every one should be agnostic
bellyzbad 11 months ago
As you point out, it is not possible to demonstrate a negative propositions - that god does not exist.
However, given that it IS possible to demonstrate positive propositions, what empirical (scientific) evidence do you have that god exists?
DMFmonster 11 months ago
Atheism is not faith, and understand that by your own logic, you have just supported atheism. Belief in god has no leg to stand on, as the only evidence, which is not a valid source, is just books written thousands of years ago, which were written based on no evidence whatsoever. maybe don't talk without thinking how it can hurt your own argument
greg100795 11 months ago
Listen Sohybe09, if you claim that islam and allah is true based on reason, then demonstrate it! Until you have demonstrated that this religion is true, you cant demand people to believe it.
Atheism is not faith! its like saing that not playing soccer is a sport! If we argue that YOU have not demonstrated with FACTS that Islam is true, this is not a faith-based argument! It is based on facts and logic. So why are you saying it is faith-based??
nitramrot 11 months ago
Even if it was true that atheism requires faith, at least it is an understandable faith. For instance: You could have the belief that you aren't gay because you like pussy. This may be a negative argument, but it's more understandable than the belief that you like dick. Positive arguments are not always more logical just because they're provable. Although atheism is still a lack of belief, it would still be more logical than the belief of an invisible sky wizard (if atheism was a belief at all.)
WithSomeSpareTime 11 months ago
Just prove god is real and I will believe.
AAL 11 months ago
Actually he is 100% right :) but you need to understand what he is implying not what he is saying hope that fixes things for you!
sonicsoul0 11 months ago
which God or god?
vain911 11 months ago
No you dumb shit, atheism is a lack of faith or a lack of belief, not a negative one. You believers are the ones who need to prove your beliefs.
CymroGoch 11 months ago 12
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@CymroGoch "No you dumb shit, atheism is a lack of faith or a lack of belief, not a negative one. You believers are the ones who need to prove your beliefs."
In the scales of belief or "disbelief" that rails one way or another.....both have burden of proof. The only worldview that would be absent of any burden is one that has no claim....agnosticism.
hexusziggurat 8 months ago
@CymroGoch
Isn't that agnosticism? Failure to believe in one or the other?
fuzzytangent 4 months ago
@sgm2005fu: The problem with atheists is that, they claim that there's no God and zip their mouth up. Your claims are on empty basis if it's not faith-based.
Sohyb09 11 months ago
@Sohyb09 I think you profoundly misunderstand atheism. Atheists claim nothing. The theist makes claims, claims supported only by faith. Atheists lack this faith. Atheists claim nothing.
In fact with respect to all gods except one, you are an atheist. You lack faith in the existence of Zeus, Thor and Ahura Mazda. I simply lack faith in one more god than you.
Atheists claim nothing.
sgm2005fu 11 months ago
@Sohyb09 What can I say other than you're an idiot. Another failed attempt at logic. sigh..
bananabread119 11 months ago
@montrealwatcher: "When you meet with the ignorant ones, just tell them, "peace". Peace, montrealwatcher, peace peace.
Sohyb09 11 months ago
No. The most you can claim about all atheists is that we do not accept (or find belief in) the existence of gods. That is all. Some atheists will go further and argue for the absence of gods, but all atheists, by definition, only fail to accept the theist's position.
When you understand why you personally fail to accept the existence of Zeus, Thor or Ahura Mazda, then you will understand why I fail to accept the existence of your god.
sgm2005fu 11 months ago
Atheism isn't a "negative claim", it's a "non claim". It is in response to a positive claim "there is a god" which we reject, and we are therefore called "agnostic atheists". You make a claim, you must prove it, not us.
DeimosSaturn 11 months ago
Do you have to have faith that Santa Clause does not exist??? Only believing in absurd things without any supporting evidence requires faith.
CHECK AND MATE
FRdemo9 1 year ago
Make the title "Logic: The Basis for Atheism" and then you'd be correct. The fact of the matter is a personal god is a very illogical thing.
ih8makinusernames 1 year ago
This is why Obama is the only Muslim has won the Nobel peace prize.
nemirn 1 year ago
I hope you someday get past your toddler mentality.
nemirn 1 year ago
This is the dumbest nigger i have seen for about 2 years
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
The burden of proof is always on the one claiming that something exists.
Faith is not scientific, it's cultural.
I can prove in many ways that the literal god of the bible does not exist, but since faith is excactly that, -faith. I can tell you things you don't know, but to make anyone stop believing in what they have chosen to believe in is probably a futile experiment to begin with.
speider 1 year ago
Here's where you are wrong. Faith is believing in nonsense without a shred of evidence to back it up (i.e., invisible people, talking snakes, magic, etc.) Atheism is simply refusing to believe in things that don't exist. Your argument fails.
Christheatheist1 1 year ago
Stop making videos and go read a book.
fegu 1 year ago
What are you talking about?! Atheism is the REJECTION of theistic claims! That's it!
It has NOTHING to do with some kind of belief that you have faith in!
bangNL94 1 year ago
Sohyb09: Atheists don't claim to KNOW that god does NOT exist. They simply reject the claim that god DOES exist due to the LACK of evidence for this belief.
TheOtherView 1 year ago
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Atheism doesn't have the burden of proof.
y2zgt 1 year ago
Wayneready. No! No! No! Retard! The Quran didn't say the earth is flat! And islam is base on 2 prisms (a) Faith and (b) Reason. But you've the former only and falsely claim the later.
Sohyb09 1 year ago
@Sohyb09 can u provide us with scientific evidence that god exist, not that shit u parents told u to believe in .
evilmickey100 1 year ago
@Sohyb09 faith and reasons are opposites, and do not mix.
speider 11 months ago
part2
We know about evolution, climate, and that the earth is round... not flat, unlike your god who for some reason knows only what humans knew at the time the quran was written. Why did he get these things that we know know to be true wrong? Is that faith in no god as you proclaim
wayneready 1 year ago
part1
You are so unbelievably dumb. You want atheists to present an argument that we have faith in no god? We don't need to prove that there is no god, I can prove that in your case, your... dessert god...your alah...is not god.
wayneready 1 year ago
Is wayneready gonna have to choke a bitch?
Adeon55 1 year ago
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@Adeon55 i will choke this one i swear....this guys a moron, i wish he would make a video with his argument, hes talking about us making a video supporting our claim that there is no god. First of all i never said that there isn't one. Wouldn't you like to see this guy prove that there is one. I think he's the one making foolish claims and unreasonable arguments, not atheists. Come on give us a good argument that your god is real Sohyb09, I think we would all love to hear you out, make a video
wayneready 1 year ago
This had to be the most pathetic defense of religious beliefs ever to cross the mind of man. Atheism is not based on faith because faith is not even a valid means of obtaining knowledge. The onus of proving that God exists is on you since you are the one making the claim, although you are the one basing that claim on faith and not facts. You yourself stated that faith is illogical, if this is the case then the same idea applies in a religious context as well.
chatpilot 1 year ago
Mistajames. Thanks for admitting the fact that "atheism is a belief, not knowldge". That's what am saying.
Sohyb09 1 year ago
@Sohyb09 - WRONG. Atheism is LACK of belief. Theism is belief. Atheists reject claims of magical, invisible people, talking snakes and other such rot. Theist believe in them. Atheists do not claim to have absolute knowledge about anything. Theists do. Understand?
Christheatheist1 1 year ago
Mistajames. Thanks for admitting the fact that "atheism is a belief, not knowldge". That's what am saying.
Sohyb09 1 year ago
This guy is mistaken about athiests and faith, theres no need for an athiest to have faith in things made evident.
JuggB 1 year ago
@jtheist. "Do I believe in your magical unicorn"? No! Reason: because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that magical unicorn exist. You don't have reason nor basis that my God doesn't exist. Faith is what hold your position as an atheist!
Sohyb09 1 year ago
@Sohyb09 Atheism is about belief, not knowledge.
And you're saying that there is more scientific and philsophical evidence for gods than there is for magical unicorns? That sounds like it needs to be substantiated.
mistajames3213 1 year ago
@Sohyb09 "Reason: because there aren't substantial reasons scientifically & philosophically that magical unicorn exist."
which is the position of many atheists.
"You don't have reason nor basis that my God doesn't exist. Faith is what hold your position as an atheist!"
what? you say you don't believe in unicorns because they can't be proven, right? well, that's why atheists don't believe that god is real. can you disprove unicorns?
atheistnarutofan 1 year ago
Wow. Almost 5 minutes of babbling and you've said nothing. Atheism is the rejection of your belief in a God. Here is a direct analogy.
Do you believe in my magical unicorn?
Why not? Please provide evidence to prove your negative assertion.
Atheism is not a faith, nor does it require us to "prove" anything. I asserted I have a magic unicorn, therefore I must prove that true. You are not required to provide proof to the contrary. You assert god exists, therefore the burden to prove it is on you.
jtheist32 1 year ago
you coming at us all wrong..i dont even know where to begin..atheism is a nonbelief...the burden of proof is on you...we are not convinced therefore its up to you to prove it....atheism isnt asserting or claiming anything...you defeated yo self in the cheese moon analogy...apply that to allah which means you gonna need proof
Gamahlee 1 year ago
@Shydrow Oh you mean a faithful perspective that "God does'nt exist"? Yea! Yea! Got ya!
Sohyb09 1 year ago
@MassacreBlast. How sure are you that God does'nt exist? 70%? 50%? 30%? If you aren't sure enough that God does'nt exist why hold on to atheism ? "Life meaningless"? Are you serious? Maybe your life (and that of other atheists) is meaningless and not our (theists) life.
Sohyb09 1 year ago
@Aanthanur. To say you don't believe in God begs a question why? You can't prove a negative! As an intellectual human being (not animal or object), base on what do you believe "there is no God"?
Sohyb09 1 year ago
Atheism = not believing in God.
Not believing in something unproven requires no evidence.
I also do not believe in dragons, still, i have no evidence for their non existence.
I don't believe in Unicorns, still, i have no evidence of their non existence.
and come back when you have actual evidence for your believe in a god.
Aanthanur 1 year ago
@Aanthanur Atheism = not believing in God.
So by yur definition atheism is another " religion " that believe in " somthing " i.e. " not believing in God ". Am I correct...atheism is a religion ??
TheDazednconfused 1 year ago
@TheDazednconfused it is a religion as much as your non believe in the flying spaghetti monster is a religion......
Aanthanur 1 year ago
@Aanthanur So atheism is another " form " of religion !
Dont atheists mock at people who believe in religion ? Why are atheists mocking their own selves ??...hehehe
TheDazednconfused 1 year ago
@TheDazednconfused no it is not a form of religion. Or how is the religion of your non believe in the flying spaghetti monster called?
Aanthanur 1 year ago
@Aanthanur you mean atheist believe in a religion in which there is a flying spaghetti monster ???
TheDazednconfused 1 year ago
@TheDazednconfused no. but do you believe in the flying spaghetti monster?
Aanthanur 1 year ago
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@Aanthanur no. but do you believe in the flying spaghetti monster?
If atheist dont believe in the flying spaghetti monster than....why mentioned about it in the first place ?? Do atheist have affinity with kids talk like....my dad has bigger muscle than your dad !....atheists have never failed to giv me a good laugh......hehehe
TheDazednconfused 1 year ago
@TheDazednconfused Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the ABSENCE of belief that any deities exist.
uralldiseasedXD 1 year ago
@uralldiseasedXD Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
Whatever your belief, as rational people, on what basis you base your belief on ?
TheDazednconfused 1 year ago
Look, it's obvious that God doesn't exist. We can't say for sure 100% but it's just common sense that things in life, our existence, are rather meaningless. Meaning is something we as humans invented. Really there is no meaning and if we blow ourselves up before the Universe implodes or suffers heat death, things will keep on rolling and the pieces will fall where they may.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
How is it faith if i don't see enough evidence for gods? It isn't faith its just a perspective. You mixing up your ideological ideas of religion with atheism and getting it wrong. Atheism says we don't believe in a god because we don't see or have enough evidence to prove it. Along with the evidence that religion keeps getting shit wrong or contradicting itself. We don't need faith we are using what we see. The correct thing to point out is that we have a perspective of there being no god.
Shydrow 1 year ago
You start with a false premise. Atheism doesn't have to prove anything. YOU can't prove the Easter Bunny doesn't exist. You call that faith?
dangerics 1 year ago
I don't think you understand what atheism or belief are. Does someone need faith to disbelieve in faeries? Does someone need faith to disbelieve in aliens? Does someone need faith to disbelieve in yetis? Atheism is about saying "I don't believe in gods because I don't find it convincing". Atheism is NOT about saying "there are no gods" because no one can disprove gods, faeries, aliens, or yetis. The way reality works is that things don't exist until proven.
Atheism isn't that god doesn'
yuishy2003 1 year ago
les musulmans ne croit pas au pere noel mais c'est vous qui enseignez
cette stupidité a vos enfants,la preuve de votre mensonge et de votre perversité!
ALLAH se passe de votre foi et vous ne méritez pas la guidée !
BNIEDEM1 1 year ago
atheists do not necessarily hold the position that god does not exist, that is what you'd call an antitheist, of which i am -- and i would be willing to provide a justifiable reason why god does not exist, one based on evidence and argument.
daemonowner 1 year ago
You misunderstand the atheist position. An atheist does not necessarily believe that there is no god, an atheist does not believe that a god exists, there is a subtle but real difference. As such, atheism does not make a claim, but rather rejects theistic claims. do you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Can you prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist? No? Then you should believe. See where that fails?
logicalmind4 1 year ago
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imyyz4u 1 year ago
I came here to answer a statement from another user. Then your video starts playing and the only thing I want to say again is "Fuck you're stupid." Your logical fallacies are absolutely laughable. You're a total fucking moron. It's up to you to prove your God exists. Not the other way around. Why don't you prove Santa Claus doesn't exist, fucktard? You're gay, and it's up to you to prove that you're not gay. Get the point retard?
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