HOBO 8 tournament battle: KRD vs. Seth (match 2)

[Yoshifire98]

It's just a game

[GoodmanChristopher]

Houston for the win... both players did pretty good.

[HerbertHerbertInc]

hahahahahahahah u have 69 health

[AnimeGamr]

That Falco looks like a little bitch... I gotta give you credit for doin that good. ._. (Plays Donkey, Jiggs, PT, Bowser, Sonic and Luigi, and doubts I would be able to even do that well against someone who plays like that Falco)

[brawl313]

whats urs krd, i think i can take u lol.. but for real im kinda good

[2Digitalism]

Time limit?

[2Digitalism]

Also, you should have went Sheik, she foes great vs Falco.

[KRDsonic]

I wanted to use only Ice Climbers for this tournament to see how I would do.

[2Digitalism]

does*

And ok.

[Redhalberd]

Sheik gets chaingrabbed to spiked way easy. Definetly not good against Falco. >_> If the falco player wants to, they can take a stock any time they grab you from 0%.

[daddyshere1]

Welcome everybody to competitive brawl <_<

And Sheik vs. Falco isn't that bad, since Sheik's tilts lock falco for a while due to falling speed. But yes falco has an advantage and yes falco owns with one grab.

[Redhalberd]

Yeah I left that comment 3 months ago. I've played the matchup several times and you're right. I think it's only about 55:45 Falco is both players are amazing.

[daddyshere1]

if both players are amazing I think you meant, and yeah I feel thats about right.

[linkisdaking]

its not so much seth though. brawl in general, is a whole bunch of spam. i swear every tourney it seems there is a lucario foward A spammer, metaknight tornado spammer. i really dont remember this much spam in melle.

[arghivebeenshot]

Eh, the new gameplay mechanics make spamming more effective, I guess, but I've never seen a complete spammer win any tournaments, save a Meta Knight. Good players can deal with it.

[linkisdaking]

i agree 100%. on occasion they get lucky, and beat players that they shouldn't be able to beat. ive watched a couple of seth's matches and relize now that this was one of the only matches where he uses this method. i have to hand it to him, facing that metaknight in the other vid must have been quite annoying, lol he tornadoed seth every time he was on the stage -.- lol.

[arghivebeenshot]

Excellent job. This match was great. I loved the annotations you put. Hopefully, you'll start a trend with this.

[KRDsonic]

why are people arguing about how this match went? o.O IMO, it was a fun match, he won, I lost, and that's it lol.

[linkisdaking]

omg!that has got to be one of the spammiest falcos ive ever seen. does that guy actually think hes good with his barrage of lasers and illusions? oh man. krd why did you play falco long range? where he can hit you with all his lasers?

[linkisdaking]

Thats really stupid dude. Falso has a tone of moves, i just came from a touney we had in my town today, and i didnt see any falco users liek this, even matched up with the IC's. Just face it this guy spams moves, im not guna say there werent any spammers at my tourney, but this guy is rediculous. Laser laser laser, ilusion, laser laser laser. Wow, im just glad this guy is not in my town.

[ultimaterazer]

please actually look up video before you talk...IC chain grabs can rape falco so he is spacing and attacking while avoiding KRD's projectiles

[linkisdaking]

wow ok, and in another one of his videos seth was chaingrabbing up the but, im srry but this guy spams. if you dont believe me look up another one of his videos, hes a dirty player.

[ultimaterazer]

type up Melee_1 iceclimbers vs Seth

those tourney vids. are perfect example and falcos chain grab is escapable unlike IC's

[linkisdaking]

so that makes it ok that he can chain grab as many times as he wants? anyways krd said that houston tourneys banned the ice climbers chain grab to only 3 times in a row. so whats the need to play liek that?

[ultimaterazer]

omg falco can only do his chain grab once per stock and its escapable and if you play smart you can pack damage on a falco and he will have to attack. IC grabs are restricted to 3 but in 3 grabs can get you to 30-50% and one grab can do a kill.

[linkisdaking]

lol you go out of yoru way to protect this guy, but in one match where he fought sk, which was falco to falco. the vid was pretty much the same spammage chain grab to the edge of the level and spike, like seriously every stock, sk even said he was dirty, and he faced him.

[ultimaterazer]

im not protecting him im just telling you your flaw about your theory of him being dirty. i went to his local tourney yesterday and that fight was over a month ago. Seth is one of the best falcos and looks like i win argument about your chain grabbing thing.

[linkisdaking]

lol he is dirty, and im glad he lost to sk, someone like him doesnt deserve to win a tourney :).

[ultimaterazer]

lol ok then you would probally get raped. and good fight KRD he fought very smartly against you

[linkisdaking]

lol what does it have to do with me? i thought we were talking about seth? im not the one who fought him. i dont even know why im getting so mad, his spammy ass lost to sk. and KRD he fought very spamily against you. i think you have very good IC's but i cant say teh same for seth :).

[linkisdaking]

and some opinion you have ? he has a good falco? have you ever even fought him? sk said so himself how dirty he was, and he fought him and beat him. i think he has more in the saying than you do.

[ultimaterazer]

Yes i have fought him in a tourney match. and SK92 started the chain grab in those battles and i just saw him rape YESTERDAY in a tourney

[linkisdaking]

Right, and there is nothing wrong with a chain grab right? but as in this fight seth over does it. its ok every tourney has a spammer, it just happens to be seth.

[ultimaterazer]

lol go look up seth vs DMK alright im done with you since you have no real argument. nothing wrong with a chain grab if its escapable. BB! =D

[linkisdaking]

exactly, there was no real arguement, seth spams no arguement, you can clearly see it in these videos. thanks for making it clear that the only way to fight the IC's with falco is to use lasers and illusions ha!

[arghivebeenshot]

Stop whining. Chaingrabbing is just another part of Falco's game. It's not gamebreaking, so there's no reason why he shouldn't use it. You might as well ban Snake's f-tilt and Marth's fair while you're at it.

[linkisdaking]

that wasn't the real issue, chaingrabing was just something else seth had spammed. i could care less about, its just the way seth spams illusions and lasers in this game, and according to ultimaterazor, thats the only way to fight the IC's, gimme a break. its just the case of doing whatever you can to win a tourney, which is just pathetic.

[ultimaterazer]

your just an idiot now...

[linkisdaking]

wow im an idiot ultimate? didnt you say thats the only way to fight the IC's with falco? lasers and illusions?

[ultimaterazer]

i said its one of the best ways to fight ice climbers in an attempt to not get grabbed ok.

[linkisdaking]

So your saying that he could have other moves at his disposal? Not just the laser and illusion.

[ultimaterazer]

he could but it wouldnt be as smart as his lasers and illusions because he has a higher chance of getting grabbed and killed

[linkisdaking]

well there you have it, all i needed to hear was that he could have used other moves :). ok this fight is over, tyvm.

[arghivebeenshot]

How is trying to win pathetic? You're not supposed to play flashy during a tournament. You're playing to win.

[linkisdaking]

wow did i say flashy? so your saying that if you want to win a tournament, then you should fight the way that seth does? ill keep that in mind, spam chain grabs spam lasers and illusions, look out next tourney im guna win :).

[arghivebeenshot]

Only against Ice Climbers to avoid being grabbed. You're throwing around the word "spam" a lot. Sethlon's doing other things other than lasers and illusions, and even if he wasn't, if it's effective, why not use it? I don't see other Falco's ignoring the chaingrab, lasers, and illusions.

[linkisdaking]

Thats stupid, if your a really good player than you shouldn't have to play a specific way against the IC's, and the time seth did other moves as you say, is when he had damaged the IC's so much with all his illusions and lasers. Have you seen the falco vs. falco fight with seth? i guess the only way to win against falco is to chaingrab aswell.

[arghivebeenshot]

Well, if you're fighting a good player, it's common sense to use an effective strategy. Anyway, you should really reconsider your stance on spamming. From what I've seen in this match, he doesn't use illusion that much. He uses f-tilt more than that, and lasers has always been a part of Falco's game since Melee.

[NiGhtMariShPie]

lmao at 3:09

[bowser10190]

Impressive. You did very well against seth and kept your cool with his laser and illusion spam. GJ

[13101blue]

damn hes good. btw nana always does random stuff 2 when i use ic

[unjuiced]

seth is hardcore.

[lachesis116]

K sorry dude. I'm not trying to sound rude here but this match was just retarted.

1. Why would you counterpick FD against a falco who played defensively against you in round 1?

2. Why would you spend most of the fight allowing falco to have a ranged battle with you? That's just not smart.

3. Sorry dude but learn new chaingrab techniques if you're gona use ICs. Hobbling is probably both the easiest and most effective way to CG in brawl yet you don't do it.

[KRDsonic]

1. This was against a pro, and in case you didn't notice, Ice Climbers are too slow to approach a laser spamming falco.

2. I picked final destination as the counterpick because that's Ice Climber's best stage. What would you choose? Rainbow Cruise? lol, no. And the tourny host has almost all the usual counterpicks banned.

3. Chain grabbing is banned where I live. Do some research before you make yourself look dumb.

[lachesis116]

1.If it's your opinion that a ranged battle with falco on FD is a better strat than continually trying to approach until u get a grab or attempting to smash through his continual >B then so be it

2.Sorry dude but SV is IC's best stage in brawl. And due the fact that FD is falco's best stage shouldda stopped you from chosing it. Maybe in the future.

3.I'm well aware of Houston's CG rule. Hobbling does not break the rule.

@Kaiser. Critical errors get critical criticism. I'm not flaming bugger off.

[KRDsonic]

I'm not the one that forced the long range battle, seth was.

Also, Smashville was one of the stages banned during our set, once again, stop acting like you're so smart when you don't know everything.

And another thing you overlook, FD is Ice Climber's best stage, that's why I chose it. It would've been dumb to choose a stage that I would do worse at like delphino because then he could've just picked Ike, who doesn't require a non-moving stage, etc.

[roman5hero]

he is in houstin cg's are banned there, so he cant do a thing with grabs.

[Kaiser565]

@Lachesis116

1. Your a noob.

2. Your a noob.

3. Your a noob.

Research moar. KRD is going to REAL LIFE LARGE tournaments. While you sit here and try to pick out his flaws. Make a name for yourself in brawl, get known. Then come back and attempt to make him look dumb again.

[Byham1]

possibly the best brawl match i've seen, absolutely brilliant

[Ragnarokstorymaker]

u should have used sheik

[puckmagnet35]

the ice climbers suck, unless u no how to use them rite!

[mantank4ever]

@puck, he does know how to use em right. Everybody makes mistakes =P

[homesliceme]

How much skill does SHL tagging take? All range spams to win. I call that cowardice.

The only thing I can think of to do is jump a lot, but even still it won't help much. You had a great first kill btw :)

[PikachuSSBM]

i love that falco XDXD good at SHLtagging.

[Grimmjow119]

WoW! The Falco person was well good!

[Jekelstheory]

my two fav characters,

both being used by equally great players.

5/5.

[AmericanHobo3]

wow.... falcon rape.....