Control Techniques for Corrections Officers (by Dana Kiklis)

[lapurdy71]

You walk into the guy's armpit after you "throw him" -even without ever being in a scuffle he could easily grab your leg and push/kick/wiggle and topple you over...then you are on the ground rolling around with him trying to control the situation. Two thumbs down. Turn his weapons (centerline) away from you, don't try to substitute proper offbalancing with pressure points, and don't stand where he can accidentally knock you over when you jolt him with pain.

[TigerGrumman]

Good technique? Really?

So, you are going to lock-up above the shoulders, then drop your head to within the power stroke of my right knee - but - of course, you will be in control and able to take me down. Right. Sure, thing.

Folks, this was dumb. Never (EVER) drop your jaw FORWARD into the most powerful muscle in the human body, while that muscle is being counter-anchored by a derivative of your own weight. That's just plain stupid.

JKD, says otherwise.

[neo19dude]

lol, sure thing bud i will try that next time an murder tries to fight me. lol

[doddoso]

just watch mma and ufc fights to realize that this move is just a move like ALL the others, it may work or not depending on who's smarter and stronger. period.

[DanaKyusho]

@doddoso

Ths is NOT strrength! I use pressure point s to straighten him up (ST-9) & then additional points to disfunction the leg to drop them

[mojonm]

I wanted to see more

[DanaKyusho]

mojonm:

Hi how are you? 

[jthouse51]

good technique, but why not try and disengage from him and go to something else like tazor or OC spray it's better than mingling with a deadly convict who could be armed. I do realize that most corrections officers don't have guns but I would think they get a tazor or some OC I went through a law enforcement academy and am wanting your input on this? I'm sure you guys have your reason on why you do things a certain way in there as opposed to. Policeman on the streets. Thankyou.

[DanaKyusho]

Thanks for compliment.

I usually teach an Empty hand (no weapon) Defense.

If they have a weapon is is much easier, if they have it hopefully they can use it (situation warrants it)?

But frequently these guys really not have the permission or access to use weapons.

With this take down the fall is enough to injure your opponent! If not, your control has him flat on his back & with very few options!

Dana

[jthouse51]

Thanks for the video and response ill be sure to share this with my fellow peers. Well take all the training techinques we can get! of course if they are worth a damn lol. How much do you charge for one of your seminars?

[jjashmor]

Taser, OC, baton??? Many agencies, all you carry are handcuffs, radio, and keys. Tasers and OC are kept locked up, used for extraction or when you know the inmate is going to act up. The biggest advantage CO have going for them is quick backup (if you can get the call for help), and a facility design that favors them.

If you went through a LEO academy, you should consider touring the jail. Most LEO's don't even know what it looks like.

[TheBananamanAssassin]

@jjashmor Exactly right. Most of them have never seen anything but the intake and booking areas,

[bdawk20]

As an Ex-prison cop myself...rest assured the only thing your allowed to carry INSIDE the prison walls are the two items at  the end of your wrists. no 3-cell flahslights...no cuffs ..for officers anywars..sgt.'t and above usually have tehm handy unless otherwise determined. the only time you're permitted to carry a PR/24 or anything of the sorts is while in full riot gear responding to a code or bell or situation. other than that ....ZIP. need AT LEAST some basic defens skills or u'r screwed

[Rofocowboy84]

@jthouse51

Not all CO's carry mace, or batons, or tasers. It's annoying, I know, but sometimes all we have is our hands......

[TheBananamanAssassin]

@Rofocowboy84 Very true. Many facilities I have seen don't even allow officers below Lt. to carry handcuffs. I am lucky enough that in my facility we are able to carry all of the above. Then it just comes down to judgement in the use of these tools. But your hands are the only thing you have at some times, and when all else fails your last resort, so the more you know the better,

[TheBananamanAssassin]

@jthouse51 In my facility we are allowed to use tasers and OC both. I carry both on my belt. OC pretty much goes out the window if you have someone on amphetamines, I'm sure you know that. Tasers can be a great tool but I've also seen people that are high snap the wires of their motions are so sporatic it's difficult to hit both probes. I'd likely try to resort to taser first and get the situation under control safely and quickly, but if it fails I fall to my DT's

[TheBananamanAssassin]

@jthouse51 Not only that but keep in mind this. When in a jail or prison you are outnumbered, most times you're walking alone and there may be up to 60 or 70 inmates. The taser can only take one, and if more come at you before your back up can get there you have the distinct possibility they will get that taser from you. It's always a different call for every scenario just as LE in the streets, judgement and 360 degree awareness are your most valuable tools. If it looks suspicious get back up

[3268MF]

I hate when they refer to us a Prison Guards

[DanaKyusho]

You're right!

I don't like the term either. Unfortunately, this is how most people refer to the job!

Please stay in touch; I have had the privilege working with lots of Law Enforcement people in the USA, Canada & Europe. I would be honored to share info with you

Dana

[Berlitz777]

But that's what you are. Your a PRISON GUARD. You guard prisoners. Your not a police officer. Your not an FBI agent. You work in a prison and guard to make sure the prisoners do what they're told.

Your not a correctional officer because everyone knows, including you, that prison does not correct the behavior of criminals. All you do is guard them until they are released.

[DanaKyusho]

In todays world people are more sensitive. Some people call it being politically correct.

Sometimes, especially with this job it helps these BRAVE guys & gals mentally handle their job better! The things they see and deal with; most people will NEVER comprehend! They get to see the worst of the worst and God willing some leave this Living Hell to go to lead better lives.

Remember Prepare for the worst and hope for the best!

Dana

[bdawk20]

Dana, AS an Exprisoncop..I miss every second of it to tell you the truth..I moved on for family reasons and unfortunately was never able to return...But you're right..these BRAVE people have to walk each and every day on the job wondering if or when the shank is coming..or the riot will set off..or if the missed something during a search that could come back to hurt them...there is no "domestic squabble" here...a "domestic" here could get a lot of people hurt

D.H...from Holdem

[hookamohog]

I am a Correctional Officer because I conduct investigations, write disciplinary reports/infractions (what a police officer would call a citation,) am trained to respond to medical emergencies. We work to set an example and hold offenders accountable for their actions and play the only effective role in their rehabilitation. Guards stand, watch, and bark orders. We do the exact same thing police do on the streets only we do it in a prison. I am an officer, you are ignorant.

[coppelia2000]

I totally agree with you -- well put.

[jjashmor]

Hmm, I'd like to see what statistics you have showing that jails or prisons do not correct the behavior... There are a lot of one time offenders, and there are also some who after they get a taste of real time find other things to do (or just better ways to hide it).

Also, by using the term corrections officer rather than prison guard, you don't exclude the jail guards...

[Berlitz777]

You wrote...."Hmm, I'd like to see what statistics you have showing that jails or prisons do not correct behavior."

It's called recidivism.

[bdawk20]

you're obviously ignorant to what goes on behind the walls.. did u know that some "police officers" unions have it written in their contracts that if a riot goes off in the prison they are not to called to get involved?...not even thier CERT teams?..Street cops, fbi whatever yes they deal with the outside..with their Tazers,guns, batons or pr/24's or whatever you want to call them...their shotguns in the car...all fully accessible..GO walk a 50 man tier without ANY of these then come talk

[bdawk20]

Exaclty...so please don't try to minimize or demean what these people choose to do for a living...their lives or no less in danger than any police officer...in fact sometimes their lives are in MORE danger..