I love Waterson Carthy! My Dad went to school with Martin and he is always really friendly when we talk to him at gigs. Eliza Carthy is the saviour of modern folk music!
Blown away by the originality of both arrangements and quality of presentation. I used to love folk music during the days of Pentangle but then went on to other things. I think i've missed a lot and it's good to see quality folk is alive and well.
I wish this group would come back to Seattle again soon! I'm trying to learn to sing while playing fiddle the way Eliza does; and Norma is a wonderfully charismatic vocalist! I've missed seeing them at the Tractor Tavern these past couple of years...
brings back memories of an excellent night many years ago in a Falloefield pub in Manchester, first time I heard them over hot pot beer and what felt a huge folk family all together in one place, my favorite song was " one more for the road" if any one has that please post it. ta x
How wonderful. I first saw Martin Carthy and the Three City Four in Manchester Free Trade Hall, in 1964. I was mesmerised by the beauty of their performance! In 1967, I saw the Watersons at Queen's University in Belfast. Once again, I was mesmerised - I'd never seen mini-skirts as short as Norma and Lal were wearing that night! And such heavenly harmony! Eliza is beautiful too! May they sing for ever!
We don't have to WIN the human race ... just SAVE it ...
I hardly think this is 'destroying a folk song'. Fine, you don't like it, but there is nothing technically wrong with it. The vocals are lovely, and the accompaniement sounds superb. If, like me, you don't know the song already, it sounds fantastic. Besides, I thought folk music is all about reinterpreting old material.
I tend to agree. Antone who has loved and played folk music knows that there are many many versions of any song. I know from the intro this was given when I saw Waterson-Carthy that this tune is far older than the one with which we are all more familiar. Eliza and Martin Carthy are not just folk musicians but folk historians too.
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Sadly I have to agree, I don't know how her mum and dad can stand there and assist their daughter destroying a folk song like that. It's about as untrad as you can get. You'd think her mum and dad would steer her in the right direction, but it looks like family transcends good taste. She has a nice voice though.
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Don't know what you are all on about. This version sucks. The song doesn't lend itself to a watery ballad. This should be sung by men only. Irish artists do much better versions. Pure pap
I listened again, it sucks the second time around. The lady has a fine voice and they are very talented musicians. This version is far too 'nice' lets say, theres no edge to it. I just don't get it and I guarantee you most people who have listened to the many versions of this song by other artists would agree. This is far too orchestrated for the song.
The problem with you saying they've ruined the song is that in reality you only mean they've ruined it for you. And this only depends on when/where/how/who you first heard it sung by.
First is not always best, but it tends to be people's favourite way to listen to a song.
They've sold it for me. I think it's brilliant. And judging by the rating of the video, they've sold it for most others too.
Ed, your are beginning and learning what it often takes years fully to appreciate, which is that you will rarely encounter a more toxic brew of vituperation, spleen, back-biting and subjective opinion masquerading as objective absolutism than that to be found -predominantly but not exclusively - in English folk music.
To be fair, in *any* area of the arts you will find people who believe that they, and they only, possess an exclusive hotline to the Absolute Truth and all others are ignorant philistines who should be grateful for the scorn heaped upon their bumbling heads by the Masters Of Reality as it can only serve to teach them the error in their ignorance and educate them in the ways of The Righteous Ones.
Wow! Some major talent here. Martin & Norma, with daughter Eliza and a couple of her "Ratcatchers". Martin is a living legend and this certainly would not / could not, have happened without him.
I adore Eliza Carthy se is so beautiful and she is an incredible musician and singer. I could watch and listen to her for ever...must see if I can find more video of her now...wel done and THANK YOU!!
Amazing--- Martin Carthy, Norma Waterson, (Waterson Carthy) and daughter Eliza; and let's not forget her band, the Ratcatchers. Totally amazing music! Just love this.
Hi I think it was the Royal Albert Hall earlier this year. I was there, and if I remember rightly this was it recorded here. It was a fabulous night, all the waterson family were there, plus guests. Lal's daughter sang one of her mother's songs, it was SO like Lal it could have been her singing it. Very Moving.
I think this was at the Royal Albert Hall earlier this year I was there, it was a great night. All the Waterson Family were there, plus guests. Lals daughter sang one of mothers songs , it could have been Lal singing! Very moving.
Magnificent! Martin & Norma are great, as to is "the next thing coming through" Eliza! First song seems to be a variant of the song made famous by Martin: Seven Yellow Gypsies", but indeed very different.
incredible!! I love both songs, specially stars in my crown, it's wonderful. They're the best musicians in the world. I wish I lived in England so that I could see them live.
Absolutely amazing...I have a couple of versions of the various Waterson: Carthy groupings doing Stars In My Crown & I can't hear it often enouogh ! Must say, tho, that I miss Mike & Lal Waterson's voices.
A very fine performance of Waterson Carthy superbly sung by Eliza.
Another great ballad.
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yugster78 8 months ago
can someone name the tune they are playing to raggle taggle gypsy? i love it.
it sounds quite different to the versions I know. More than just a shift to major - it's a different tune.
sjmckenzie101 9 months ago
Gleet.
fannybaba 1 year ago
So simple and pure and yet so intricate and clever. Such a wonderful English folk sound. The Wraggle Taggle Gypsy is so rich in our heritage.
Bless you all
Jayn Winslade
jaynEwinslade 1 year ago
Love your records!! They work as well here in sweden as over there!! :)
GreatBonFire 1 year ago
If I could play the violin like Eliza....well, I don't even know. But if I could...I don't think anything could stop me doing anything.
triqualina 1 year ago 2
I love Waterson Carthy! My Dad went to school with Martin and he is always really friendly when we talk to him at gigs. Eliza Carthy is the saviour of modern folk music!
veriddian 1 year ago 5
Love the unusual tune here...so many versions of this are sung to some version of "Princess Royal". I like that this is a totally different tune.
carollizc 1 year ago
Totally agree! They have shifted it into a major, and it sounds awesome. There are some really cool timing tricks as well. Just love it.
kumiak 1 year ago 3
the first song is brilliant. just brilliant.
vinnycav 2 years ago
Beautiful ! now that's what I call music. Thanks for posting.
jonno52 2 years ago 3
Oh Eliza! There is no doubt, you got all the right genes.
mijbil49 2 years ago 2
Glorious!
Thank you from Canada.
Sheamusj 2 years ago 2
Blown away by the originality of both arrangements and quality of presentation. I used to love folk music during the days of Pentangle but then went on to other things. I think i've missed a lot and it's good to see quality folk is alive and well.
codnchips 2 years ago
Both songs just fantastic! Truly talented musicians making truly beautiful music.
specialk1988 2 years ago
Love this version of the song, they put such originality into it!
millardforever 2 years ago
i love this song so much
LauraAlex007 3 years ago 2
norma is a lovely performer and still so pretty. Her skin and eyes r beautiful. I love her hand movements :)
blahblahblah85 3 years ago 3
After 10 pints I'd agree with you, before then it's Eliza every time. LOL :-)
Islwynpaul 3 years ago 4
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Eliza is so pop! What about the waterson carthy roots!
halantow 3 years ago
Wonderful, thanks for posting this :)
Enelya 3 years ago 3
I wish this group would come back to Seattle again soon! I'm trying to learn to sing while playing fiddle the way Eliza does; and Norma is a wonderfully charismatic vocalist! I've missed seeing them at the Tractor Tavern these past couple of years...
LairMistress 3 years ago 2
this is purely brilliant...my innards are tingling
AtmaRising 3 years ago 3
brings back memories of an excellent night many years ago in a Falloefield pub in Manchester, first time I heard them over hot pot beer and what felt a huge folk family all together in one place, my favorite song was " one more for the road" if any one has that please post it. ta x
grooveycat 3 years ago
How wonderful. I first saw Martin Carthy and the Three City Four in Manchester Free Trade Hall, in 1964. I was mesmerised by the beauty of their performance! In 1967, I saw the Watersons at Queen's University in Belfast. Once again, I was mesmerised - I'd never seen mini-skirts as short as Norma and Lal were wearing that night! And such heavenly harmony! Eliza is beautiful too! May they sing for ever!
We don't have to WIN the human race ... just SAVE it ...
Colin Hugh Abbott.
Jarrahnut 3 years ago 14
Just seen them live and they played this song, it blew me away AMAZING!!!
oldrabidone 3 years ago 2
you bastard!
where did you see them?
i can't wait to get the chance. I am so upset to have missed the Albert Hall show :(
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
in torrington in devon, it was a small venue and i was right at the front! :P
oldrabidone 3 years ago
i hate you. :)
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
If you want to see them live and up close- they go to the Bampton Morris dancing every year (in Bampton-around may day but advertised on the net)
After the dancing its all night sessions in the pubs... Dave Swarbrick turns up sometimes too!
babystreetfighta 3 years ago
Thanks for the advice.
I've already arranged something though. I'm going to see them at the Beverly Folk Festival in June.
:)
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
If you want to see them live and up close- they go to the Bampton Morris dancing every year (in Bampton-around may day but advertised on the net)
After the dancing its all night sessions in the pubs... Dave Swarbrick turns up sometimes too!
babystreetfighta 3 years ago
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Folk music is much better when Morris Dancers stay well out of the way!
HullBloke1313 3 years ago
i hate you. :)
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
i hate you. :)
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
hehe but thats not the best bit.... i met them after the show and got thier autographs :D
oldrabidone 3 years ago
my client has no comment
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
I can't believe I missed this show.
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
I hardly think this is 'destroying a folk song'. Fine, you don't like it, but there is nothing technically wrong with it. The vocals are lovely, and the accompaniement sounds superb. If, like me, you don't know the song already, it sounds fantastic. Besides, I thought folk music is all about reinterpreting old material.
HashRouge 3 years ago 3
I tend to agree. Antone who has loved and played folk music knows that there are many many versions of any song. I know from the intro this was given when I saw Waterson-Carthy that this tune is far older than the one with which we are all more familiar. Eliza and Martin Carthy are not just folk musicians but folk historians too.
saffsgrandad 3 years ago 4
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Sadly I have to agree, I don't know how her mum and dad can stand there and assist their daughter destroying a folk song like that. It's about as untrad as you can get. You'd think her mum and dad would steer her in the right direction, but it looks like family transcends good taste. She has a nice voice though.
trollfiddler 3 years ago
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Don't know what you are all on about. This version sucks. The song doesn't lend itself to a watery ballad. This should be sung by men only. Irish artists do much better versions. Pure pap
whiteviera 4 years ago
Did you listen to it past the second verse?
YuukiGunn 4 years ago
You are welcome to your opinion. It's just shit :)
soliloquise 4 years ago
I listened again, it sucks the second time around. The lady has a fine voice and they are very talented musicians. This version is far too 'nice' lets say, theres no edge to it. I just don't get it and I guarantee you most people who have listened to the many versions of this song by other artists would agree. This is far too orchestrated for the song.
whiteviera 4 years ago
Which song have they ruined?
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
Raggle Taggle Gypsy of course.
whiteviera 3 years ago
ok. Just wanted to clarify which song you were spouting shit about.
Thanks.
:)
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
Very mature comment from a 20 year who knows it all. Now where have seen one of those before.
Away and grow a beard son.
whiteviera 3 years ago
Thanks.
If I grow a beard, will you grow an open mind?
The problem with you saying they've ruined the song is that in reality you only mean they've ruined it for you. And this only depends on when/where/how/who you first heard it sung by.
First is not always best, but it tends to be people's favourite way to listen to a song.
They've sold it for me. I think it's brilliant. And judging by the rating of the video, they've sold it for most others too.
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago 3
To declare they've ruined a song is ridiculous. Do you not think Norma Waterson and Martin Carthy know a tad more about folk music than either of us?
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago 2
To declare they've ruined a song is ridiculous. Do you not think Norma Waterson and Martin Carthy know a tad more about folk music than either of us?
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago 4
Ed, your are beginning and learning what it often takes years fully to appreciate, which is that you will rarely encounter a more toxic brew of vituperation, spleen, back-biting and subjective opinion masquerading as objective absolutism than that to be found -predominantly but not exclusively - in English folk music.
bountybar 3 years ago
...and I really ought to remember to spell check/proof read before posting!
bountybar 3 years ago
"subjective opinion masquerading as objective absolutism"
Beautifully put.
I'll take the advice. Thanks.
Ed17cellotape 3 years ago
To be fair, in *any* area of the arts you will find people who believe that they, and they only, possess an exclusive hotline to the Absolute Truth and all others are ignorant philistines who should be grateful for the scorn heaped upon their bumbling heads by the Masters Of Reality as it can only serve to teach them the error in their ignorance and educate them in the ways of The Righteous Ones.
Or something...
BobTheMunificent 3 years ago 5
Very articulate but indeed quite sad!!!
whiteviera 3 years ago
Thankyou for your contribution.
Goodbye.
HullBloke1313 3 years ago
No worries, anytime!!!
whiteviera 3 years ago
Wow! Some major talent here. Martin & Norma, with daughter Eliza and a couple of her "Ratcatchers". Martin is a living legend and this certainly would not / could not, have happened without him.
viking1au 4 years ago
Which 'Ratcatchers' are you seeing? I don't think either of the Johns are their, and I couldn't spot Ben Ivitsky.
HashRouge 3 years ago
reminds me of young dreamy in love days my boy and me
girlsandwings 4 years ago
Re the venue, it looks like the Union Chapel in Upper Street, Islington to me.
MHWoods 4 years ago
I adore Eliza Carthy se is so beautiful and she is an incredible musician and singer. I could watch and listen to her for ever...must see if I can find more video of her now...wel done and THANK YOU!!
Eliza I love you...!!
NightingaleHMP 4 years ago
Gosh, she has a great voice...
coramunroe 4 years ago
The guitar is classic Martin Carthy, in his strange tuning of the guitar.
viking1au 4 years ago
Amazing--- Martin Carthy, Norma Waterson, (Waterson Carthy) and daughter Eliza; and let's not forget her band, the Ratcatchers. Totally amazing music! Just love this.
viking1au 4 years ago
Where and when was this recorded? Looks like quite a venue...
davesamain 4 years ago
Hi I think it was the Royal Albert Hall earlier this year. I was there, and if I remember rightly this was it recorded here. It was a fabulous night, all the waterson family were there, plus guests. Lal's daughter sang one of her mother's songs, it was SO like Lal it could have been her singing it. Very Moving.
gilyat 4 years ago
Sorry my second reply was in error!
gilyat 4 years ago
I think this was at the Royal Albert Hall earlier this year I was there, it was a great night. All the Waterson Family were there, plus guests. Lals daughter sang one of mothers songs , it could have been Lal singing! Very moving.
gilyat 4 years ago
Top class. The height of English culture - ever evolving and long may it be so.
davesamain 4 years ago
Absolutely correct! Martin is a legend, as is Norma! The next big thing coming through is Eliza. --- Wonderful music !!!!!
viking1au 4 years ago
Magnificent! Martin & Norma are great, as to is "the next thing coming through" Eliza! First song seems to be a variant of the song made famous by Martin: Seven Yellow Gypsies", but indeed very different.
viking1au 4 years ago
I love that tune for "Raggle-taggle Gypsy". It's one of those catchy ones that won't let me go. :)
Teresa4212 4 years ago
incredible!! I love both songs, specially stars in my crown, it's wonderful. They're the best musicians in the world. I wish I lived in England so that I could see them live.
Thank you so much for the video.
verrejoputa 4 years ago
Absolutely amazing...I have a couple of versions of the various Waterson: Carthy groupings doing Stars In My Crown & I can't hear it often enouogh ! Must say, tho, that I miss Mike & Lal Waterson's voices.
toftmf 4 years ago