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  • A Master's Degree in Education doesn't impress me because Education is one of the laziest majors next to Journalism, Women's Studies, 14th Century French Poetry, etc. The people in those majors have very little academic rigor and I doubt if most of them have the problem solving skills to get out of a paper bag. I think we should change the requirement for teachers to go back to school while teaching to say if you teach math or a science, that you should be required to get a BS in Engineering.

  • ALL labor unions are filled with thugs and self-appointed leaders no different than mafia dons and their henchmen. Labor unions need to be categorized as organized crime and every union leader prosecuted under the RICO act. Those convicted can serve a minimum 10 year prison sentence.

  • I've got a dilemma here. Do I vote the video down because some idiot shoved a camera in this guys face or do I vote it up because the guy shoved the camera out of his face. As for crying "assault" c'mon. You've just video taped yourselves provoking the guy. I'd call that incitement and extreme provocation. The guy with the beard is right. You're not very intelligent and you've just proved it on camera.

  • Another Lackie carrying water for Corporate masters. 

  • Taping him without his consent is called Entrapment.

  • I would have busted that chicken shit, girl hitting, union boys head open.

  • OMG what a monster! Call the police!

  • Lib union members do this type of thing because they have only bumpersticker slogans to back up their socialist standings. They have the brain power of a 4 year old with soiled diapers.

  • @anotherengineer So you're sayin that all Union members are stupid? What about the Union craftsment who build the bridges and skyscrapers? What about the ones who build and maintain the oil refineries and the power plants? Are you saying that a 4 year old is capable of working on a Nuclear Powerplant? You're just another union bashing idiot, full of lies, bullshit, and foolish assumtions.

  • @nktank84 Dude coming from a union carpenter,awesome comments, put these assholes in their place. There is an asshole who calls himself freedomlover the guy is a total douchebag if you see ant comments from him please put that asshole in his place!!Thanks peace brother

  • More cowbell!

  • You seem like one of those kids just out of college that "think" they know everything, it looked to me like you where starting trouble and being a thug.

  • You want a half assed job, call the union. You want someone that works at half speed, call the union. You want a great job at a fair price, call a non union worker, support the right to work.

  • @TheImpeacher Couldn't have said it better!

  • @TheImpeacher Yea that's why they call Union Boilermakers to work on powerplants that lose a million dollars per day every day they are offline. They wanna lose twice the money? No, they called us because we never miss a deadline. Westar Energy used nonunion labor for their first baghouse, and after they missed their deadline by a month Westar decided to use union boilermakers for the rest of their baghouses. Kinda shoots your statement in the balls don't it.

  • @TheImpeacher I worked a shutdown in St. Marys KS 4 years ago on a power plant. They had non union building their first baghouse, they missed the deadline by a month and cost the customer millions. As I type we have Union boilermakers building their second baghouse. Out in Holcomb KS we've been back in that plant for 10 years because non union got pissed off at their contractor and sabotaged the powerplant. Non union is cheaper, but sometimes ya get what ya pay for.........

  • The damn camera is inches from the guy's face, you knew what he was gonna do and that was the whole point of this video. Everbody wants to use that term these days "union thug" 90% of people would've did the same thing. You invade a man's personal space you're asking for it.

  • Union workers are lazy violent scum bags.

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  • @mizsoutiger I'm a Union Fuckin Boilermaker, I keep your lights turned on by maintaining The power plants (including Nuclear) that supply your electricity. I also keep the refineries running. I've hung iron 300 ft in the air, like parts that weighed in access of 150 tons. I've also made welds on boiler tubes where I had to use a mirror, and they all passed X-ray. All I want is a decent wage and benefits, and I got that because I'm a Union Crafstman.

  • @nktank84 unions are worthless. non union members do the same work without the union thuggery & asshole mentality. union members aren't the only ones allowed to work, yet go to any picket line & that's the attitude. 'decent wage and benefits'? union wage & benefits far exceed what comparable non union workers make. unions are monopolies that protect seniority, not the most productive workers. ever heard of a performance based system? get a real job & education.

  • @mizsoutiger I know for a fact most construction trades have no seniority what so ever. I'm a Boilermaker I work for a different contractor on every job, I usually have a different boss and stewart on every job also. On my job if you don't produce you get canned, powerplant outage work is assholes and elbows work. I got an education, I went through 4 years of apprenticeship training in the toughest trade there is. I don't flip burgers pal, I WORK ON NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS

  • @mizsoutiger Ya know the only time I've ever heard of "Union Thuggery" is on here. Yes a decent wage and benefits, I travel for my job as most Boilermakers do, I give up my family and everything I love for 9 months a year. It takes a damn good paycheck to make that worth it. I make $32/hr and $20/hr benefit package, time I pay my expenses only the pension makes it worth it. If you don't like your wage MAYBE YOU SHOULD ORGANIZE AND BARGAIN FOR BETTER WAGES. How is that so hard to figure out?

  • @nktank84 I actually have a college degree and a high paying job; I'll leave the wrench turning and picket line frenzy and crying to you.

  • @mizsoutiger So you think that a college degree entitles you to treat blue collar people like shit? That simply by getting a college degree it makes you invalueable as a person and employee and that nobody without that degree could ever possibly be on the level you? You think that blue collar people should know their place, take what they're given and be grateful? Honestly, what do you even do for a living that makes you so high and mighty?

  • @nktank84 I don't turn wrenches, that's for damn sure. And I don't whine and complain when I don't get everything I want, and I don't form lines in front of stores and other public places harassing people who are making a honest living but don't subscribe to a thug union. Make your case like decent human beings, not whiny 7 year old's and maybe people will then give two shits about union workers.

  • @mizsoutiger But you're not proud enough of your career to tell a total stranger on the internet what you do for a living? You're man enough to talk shit about other peoples' careers, but you're too chicken shit to reveal yours? I mean just because you don't "turn wrenches" doesn't mean that you have a job that takes any kind of skill or talent. You could be a secretary for all I know. It must be somethin dumb or else you would've slammed me with it already.lol

  • @nktank84 As soon as I make a video of me standing around whining and complaining about my life, job, how I'm the only one with a right to work, and stopping traffic and disrupting legitimate business flow with my incessant complaints all because I was too lazy to get an education yet now demand more than the market value for my work THEN I'll tell you what I do for a living. Until then, I'm happy with my life. I wish the same for you one day.

  • @mizsoutiger I'm happy with my life. I work a good job with good benefits, I'm not tied to one company I choose which jobs I wanna go work and which ones I don't. My job requires alot of travel, that's why I make $34/hr. I like my job and I'm proud of it, It takes alot of skill to do my job. I can climb like a monkey 200ft in the air hanging steel and love every minute of it. I can also crawl in a hole and make an X-ray quality weld using a mirror.

  • @nktank84 If you produce work of such high quality, work that is perhaps high-in-demand, why the need for a Union? Do you feel the need to be represented by such an organization? Why not allow the quality of your work drive the demand and value of your services?

  • @mizsoutiger The jobs in my line of work tend to be less than 3 months. Due to the nature of the work it's hard to stay with one company for long enough to get health insurance, let alone build a pension. On the other hand by being union I can work for hundreds of different contractors across the country with the same benefits as they are based on hourly payout to my insurance and pension funds within the Union. This gives me much freedom by not being tied to one company.

  • @mizsoutiger As a Union Boilermaker I also had the benefit of going through an apprenticeship that involed on the job training plus extensive training off the job at my union hall's 5 million dollar training center. I have access to work reports of futture jobs, I can get welding certs for dozens of contractors with 1 test at my hall instead of testing for each job.

  • @mizsoutiger What? Did you think I was an auto worker who screws in a bolt on a car for a living? Not every Union employee works in a factory. The only way for many construction works to get benefits/pension is to work union. We're not fat and lazy, we just want benefits and a pension. We're not unskilled violent thugs, we just want decent benefits for the job we do.

  • @nktank84 I think this represents the monopoly created by laborunions. They've made it impossible for u to obtain jobs orwork a business of ur own. Rather, they've created an environment where only those represented by them can get any kind of benefits or high wagesfor doing work. Laborunions don't stand for the little man; they stand for lobbyists&huge corporations. Laborunions need 2b put out ofbusiness so thatevery1 can function on their own&receive fair compensation for their work.

  • @mizsoutiger Ya know what I think? I think you're funny as hell.I think you're dreaming up theories about an industry that you haven't even the slightest idea of its inner workings. Oh great one, please tell me another way that men who keep the power plants of this country running can get good benefits and pension. We travel the country working long hours during short outages, and we're often layed off during the summer.

  • @mizsoutiger IT MIGHT SURPRISE YOU TO LEARN THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS SO EXCITED ABOUT BEING A COMPANY SLAVE. I like having my summers off, I like having a say in when and where I go to work without giving up my benefits and pension. I like the fact that I don't have work at the same job for the same asshole boss just to keep my retirement like you have to. My job has alot of downsides, but the freedom I got is pretty rare these days, and damn hard to give up.

  • @mizsoutiger Is it really that bad, Mr. internet badass? lol.

  • When did Sean Connery become such a dick?

  • Union vermin.

  • MY NON UNION COMPANY WILL TAKE YOUR UNION THUG MENTALITY TO THE BANK.........BRING IT.

  • Collectively fighting for your rights through an organization of your peers, without government, is one of the most pro-capitalist thing to do. Business create groups to help them gain power, workers do the same through their unions.

  • These people need real jobs.

  • Im not a union worker but I would have done the same thing if you were taping me with out my consent

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  • That's not assault, that's battery,,, but either way, who the fuck cares what someone did after being provoked and cornered? I would've knocked that shit out of her hands too.

    The worst part is when the guy said "You just hit a girl." I'm pretty sure it was a fucking women, and if she's going around shoving a camera in someones face, she knows the risk of getting hit. Chivalry is Misogyny.

  • @CTerrik Yeah true how about I fuck ur mom while you watch sissy boy!

    If you don't thats Misogyny

  • The Union member was harrassed. Those s--t disturbing camera carrying thugs got what they were asking for.

  • Its assault plain and simple UNION THUG !

  • The fact that they slow mo-ed it makes it even less believable

  • I gotta admit, if some guy was shoving a camera in my face I'd shoved him/her back. If you shove a camera in someones face your kinda asking for it. And all you guys saying he should be jailed, or calling him thug, what the hell would you guys do if a camera was shoved in your face? I wouldn't mind being recording or whatever, but don't shove shit to my face. That's invading personal space and your asking for it.. Stupid shit the camera man did.

  • Fuck you all. He was being attacked and you wanted him to do something like that and you know it, it was the point of this whole video. Once again, Fuck all of you for trying to make it seem like he is any worse than the people filming him and arguing with him.

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  • He deserves to be jailed and beaten while there. 

  • I have no use for a Cocksucker working in a non-union enviroment.The cocksucker is a lowest form of life.When you have to blow the Boss so you can get ahead,or feel special.The world is full of them and they want you to be just like them.They dont mind it and they think you shouldnt niether.Cocksuckers dont fair well in a union enviroment they find it hard to get their special treatment.

  • TOUGH GUY HIT A GIRL!!!HAHAHAHA

  • HEY - he was supposed to stand there and hold a sign, not shove people. Shoving people is MY job! I was on my 6th 30min. break when this happened I'm filing a grievance with the local 1089 Assault Union!!!!!!!

  • Worthless Union Thugs,I Have No Use For Them Or Unions!!!!

  • @WCD73 amen

  • @SGTLima66

    Thank You SGTLima66!!

  • This is pure propaganda!!! "Mr. I have a Master's Degree" is intimidating an American Worker - plain and simple - CWA is attempting to exercise his 1st amendment right to freedom of speech and to peacefully assemble (and his right to NOTcommunicate with him) and they respond by shoving a camera in his face -- invading his personal space - punishing him & denying his peaceful enjoyment of his free speech rights. And check-out the name-calling by some of the Conservative bloggers - intelligent?

  • This is pure propaganda!!! "Mr. I have a Master's Degree" is intimidating an American Worker - plain and simple - CWA is attempting to exercise his 1st amendment right to freedom of speech and to peacefully assemble (and his right to NOTcommunicate with him) and they respond by shoving a camera in his face -- invading his personal space - punishing him & denying his peaceful enjoyment of his free speech rights. And check-out the name-calling by some of the Conservative bloggers - intellegent?

  • They wanted to engage the CWA member, an American Worker, in "intelligent conversation" - the working American did not want to be so engaged - they wanted to FORCE him to speak to them & persisted while pointing a camera at him, so close to his face that she cannot even fit his entire face in the frame. He shoves the camera-phone away. Part of the right to free speech is the right to remain silent or choose with whom one wants to speak and communicate. Who intimidated whom? Who is the thug?

  • Union guy, in a COMMIE RED Union Sweatshirt..... HITS a guy asking questions, which the UNION GUY cannot answer...... And you defend this behavior?? Speaks VOLUMES about the LOW IQ of the left supporters..... How about a SIMPLE question for SIMPLE  Liberal minds..... YOU guys run California in EXACTLY the Liberal way, you want the USA run..... HOW'S IT WORKING ?? LMAO at you LIBERAL DOLTS!! California... EPIC FAILURE, and BANKRUPT!! Gee.. JUST LIKE Obama is doing to the NATION! Obama is Great?

  • It looked to me like the thug was the guy attacking the union member. Having a masters degree sure didn't make him smart, lol! Freedom Works? I don't think they are working for freedom!! I love all of these Orwellian little groups though. Next we will have Save the Whales groups driving around in speed boats blowing up whales with explosives. That sure seems to be the direction things are heading in! Its quite amusing!!

  • Spurious video and arguments

  • So how exactly to you define UNION THUG -- someone shoves a camera inches from his face and he shoves it away -- Make HIM A THUG??? A little biased??? You like using names -- anyone that is a member and active in his union / goes to rallies = thug!!!

  • @lawyerwins Yeah that is about right... No reasoning argument, willing and wanting to intimidate, low brow in every way - sounds like union thug to me.

  • @lawyerwins Some things define themselves.you dont need to be a lawyer,or a college pinhead to smell what he is.thats the problem today..everybody needs a definition or a concensus.He is what he is.a regular tough guy with a shitty ,liberal attitude.Im from shittsburgh ,pa....ive been dealing with shitheads like this in bars around here for 30 years,so no new news to me.Fucks like this shitted himself out of a steel mill job,now his type installs cable television slower than molasses in february

  • @lawyerwins If I do recall the term was company thugs, that arrogant shit would have seen my boot( Long live the Unions)!!!!

  • @mobilechief long live unions= short live america

  • @lawyerwins In public you can film whatever you want. Union members are morons.

  • @lawyerwins yes exactly right

  • @Jmarsfan28 IS A GAY ACTIVIST

  • @jeffw247 Typical class less liberal. think they should get get get there whole life. then cry about it when the people who have to give give give are broke

  • @lawyerwins yea cause tea party people never got cameras shoved in there face....o wait they did every time and they were always accused of BS

  • George Soros donated or invested politicans and organizations: moveon.org NPR Obama Mark Dayton for govenor of Minnesota Tides Foundation Body Scanners at airports Media Matters for America Open Society Institute ACORN Democratic Party List of people and organizations a mile long! Tea Party supports Homes for wounded vets. That is much better and you don't hear that on the mainstream media.
  • @musclegenii Then what your saying is that it alright to hit a girl?...Shame! Union thugs are the problem. The state of Wisconsin as well as the rest of the country can no longer afford the lavish demands by unions. While you are complaining about the Koch brothers, George Soros is trying to make the US dollar worthless so he becomes the first trillionare and the rest of us have nothing!

  • The truth is you can do this at any protest. Embarrass some idiot. Misrepresent the whole movement.

    

  • union workers don't take shit from teaparty types and they Don't need to,teaparty is the problem not the unions. FreedomWorksAction KochbBrothers paid political organization

  • I love how these sorts of videos come into the conversation just before one person reacts aggressively. Obviously both people were heated prior to taping. Its all set up to get a reaction out of one person and discredit them. We don't get to see what the other person said or did for a reason. As soon as the camera was hit away from filming the first thing you hear? Assault.... Yeah, set up..

  • Unions = free loaders of tax payers money!

  • @moo2moo2 That's great! But, why not donate to the arts directly, instead of channeling it through the evil Koch empire. You must not have a Bible to read the verse i mentioned. Why not google it? You use Christian terms a lot. Do you want to be associated with the destroyers of the earth? Google Koch brother's involvement in Freedom Works, Citizens For A sound Economy, and then follow the links to their other depravities, like the TEA party. If you can handle the truth. I am done with you.

  • Typical Progressive Democratic Union attitude! People had better wake up to these goons from the political left! The Left has a history of murdering opponents or those who oppose them! The Democratic Party is now the Communist Party of America and the fools on the left who are politically naive don't recognize this fact! You know that Communist are involved when they Lambast Companies and business!

  • @moo2moo2 Are you for real? Do you think the ALMIGHTY GOD wants you to give money to creeps who are destroying the earth, for a profit? Check out the verse Revelation 11:18. You will be judged with those you keep company with. Don't bring GOD into it. He does not bless people like the Koch's.You are being mislead, which tells me you are feeble and weak.Why not just give the billionaire destroyers of the earth all your money? They won't even send you a card on Christmas! They are laughing at you!

  • The worst thing Freedom Works, the KochbBrothers paid political organization could come up with was someone slapping at a cell phone with a cardboard sign. Even playing it in slomo doesn't make it scary. They should hire some actors to portray the "thugs," like they do in other videos, or stick to filming crazy street people that turn up at rallies and call them "Union representatives. That works much better.

  • The military should be brought out and open fire on the Union Scumbags

  • They're not thugs. They're vermin, scum and the crap that goes into the sewer.

    Liberalism is a mental disorder!

  • @8thRRFS genocide is the cure for unions and liberalism

  • @8thRRFS

    i hope you die

  • Are unions becoming the Neo KKK?

  • Are unions becoming the Neo KKK?

  • He should have kicked her ass all the way back to the Koch Industries Corporate office!

  • @arklat Thanks for proving the point. Disagree with a Unionista- receive violent attack

  • @GeorgeFord The Koch Industries mislead gullible people=ass beating. Thanks for lying to the American people and getting them to cut their, and their kids, throats, just so the huge corporations can make more money! You are scum!

  • @arklat You candy ass!!! Hit a woman at a rally that I'm at and see what happens. Another internet tough guy. You union thugs keep ratcheting up the violent rhetoric. What happened to the new civility I've been hearing so much about? Watch out what you wish for guy.

  • @barnoldwhv So, are you saying that the Freedom Works liars are gonna call the police, or return violence with matching violence? Is that the policy direct from David Koch? Yeah, keep doing the dirty work for those creeps the Koch brothers! They LOVE idiots. Easy pickens for them. I suppose you donate to their cause too, right? Like they need the money. They are BILLIONAIRES because of you. I boycott every product that i am aware they are responsible for producing. Why don't you wake up?

  • TEABAGGERS=DOMESTIC TERRORISTS

  • TEABAGGERS=DOMESTIC TERRORISTS

  • @HUMANSAREBENEATHME

    Union Thugs = Domestic Terrorists.

  • @2purple79 <--Low-rent Dollar Store Republican.

    TEABAGGERS=DOMESTIC TERRORISTS

  • @HUMANSAREBENEATHME

    Is that the best you got!!! What a weak useless Liberal. Hey your idol has a nickname for you..Lenin- Useless Idiots!!!

  • @2purple79 <--Unskilled minimum wage Koch Industries internet troll.

    TEABAGGERS=DOMESTIC TERRORISTS

  • @HUMANSAREBENEATHME

    Oh come on usless braindead socialist hippie. You can do better than that!!

  • @2purple79 Sadly, he probably can't.

  • Liberals hate being recorded. Little known secret amogst them that if you play the audio in reverse and the video in slowmotion it actually shows the devil in em.  THey dont want someone stumbling across it.

  • you are a THUG and a PUNK!

  • Unions are responsible for the 40 hour work week, overtime, OSHA, benefits, and almost every other workplace right. When enough people say fuck the unions and they go away get ready to be slaves again. We pretty much are. Wages are going down and cost of living is going up. All of that is due to the loss of union membership. That doesn't happen in Union shops. They have the courage to stand up for their rights as workers. Anti-union people love making CEOs rich and themselves poor. LOVE IT!

  • @lozgod Unions were a good thing in the 1800's. But now we don't need them. State and federal laws keep employees safer through OSHA, and overtime is a state law. Unions have abused their power by holding companies for ransom (more wages, more benefits, etc, etc, etc). They always ask for more and never give anything in return. The unions are at it again, supermarkets going on strike. I hope they do. There's plenty of people out of work to take their place. Please go on strike.

  • This is bull.1st of all you're violating his personal space. I would also like to say a masters degree doesn't equate intelligence especially in todays education system. Big deal, you learned how to memorize and regurgitate. What a donkey! They're (videographers) the bullies in the video.

  • Why would this group be calling itself freedom work?. Sounds like they should be calling themselves facists. RECALL WALKER!!!!!!!!

  • @TeamViRo No, I'm a hard-working person with an honest job raising his family, who is constantly being attacked by ignorant people who can't tell "your" from "you're". I bet most of you guys never did anything with your lives. I wonder if you even have jobs at all? I doubt it. You folks are the bottom of the barrel.

  • This is what journalism is today. Stick a camera in someones face, ask questions in a rapid fashion so that the person HAS LITTLE TO NO TIME TO RESPOND AND HOPE THAT THEY GET PISSED. How many people did you film before you found this guy, oh don't answer that because you will likely lie anyway.

  • BLAGO SELLS SENATE SEAT ? GOP GOVERNORS SELL STATES TO KOCH BROTHERS !!!

  • INTRO OF DARKNESS THEN REDNESS THEN WHITENESS! THEN GREENESS!

  • how much is enough for the corrupt unions

  • unions suck just as bad as  the mafia

  • That's a joke, no matter how you try to slow-mo it to make it look vicious or violent. That is FAR from assault. Good luck pressing charges with that.

  • i demand the thug be arrested and charges filed.

  • @FriendlyGeekClassics For what, exactly? I didn't see anything that resembled an assault.

  • @bek12 you are an idiot and i will not respond to you if you dont see anything that resembles an assault

  • @FriendlyGeekClassics I must have missed it. Maybe you could point out the physical assault to me. Wherever it happened in the video, it couldn't be much because the people harassing the union protester keep mouthing off. I think if I were REALLY being assaulted, I'd be calling 911 and not staying in the guy's face. But then, you are barely able to spell so I wouldn't expect you to agree with that common sense.

  • These people are supposed to be public servants not the taxpayers masters.

    Public unions should no longer be recognized. Then do you want to work or not? If not then go home.

  • @RCWorks You Tea Party types have an interesting perspective. Let me straighten it out for you: We all pay taxes. Taxes are not voluntary. Taxes go to wherever government administrators think they should go. They often hire employees. Those employees do NOT work for you. You, along with them, are merely taxpayers. Those employees answer to their bosses, just like any other job. When Wendy's hires someone, that person answers to his boss as well. Not to you. Understand now?

  • @bek12 Sorry, they do work for us but they seem to have forgotten that. up and coming will be layoff the like they have never seen, this will be done to get spending in check. I for one will jump for joy.

    We need a Greek style austerity bill, that will be a great day.

  • @RCWorks No, they don't, but you go ahead and cheer when people lose their jobs and their ability to support their wife and kids. It'll come around to you someday too, and when it does, I'm sure there will be other people cheering this time.

  • @bek12 Besides for what the teachers unions do to our kids we should post a bounty on thier members. For most of them it is thier only worth.

  • @RCWorks Since you're so bright, maybe you should home school them. Clearly, you could do a better job than teachers with their master's degrees.

  • @bek12 That we do, my kids have NEVER missed the honor roll, your kids don't know what it is let alone have thier names on it.

  • @RCWorks Attacking my children isn't the nicest thing to do, my small minded friend. But for your information, both my wife and I have master's degrees, and we value education highly. Our kids are always on the honor roll. We have a discussion with the principal of the school just today to work out which AP classes one of our daughters will be taking next year. They be getting college credit while still in high school, and probably graduate college by the time they're 20.

  • @bek12 Why not? The little nuts don't fall far from the tree.

  • @RCWorks Well I hope yours fall quite a bit farther away. Maybe they will be able to spell. Oh, wait... I guess not, since you're homeschooling them! Poor kids.

  • @RCWorks -continued- Public schools have served us well, and our children will be well-prepared for whatever college they attend when the time comes.

  • @RCWorks Btw, I noticed when you insulted my children's intelligence that you repeatedly can't spell "their" correctly. It's not "thier". It's possessive and spelled "their", as in "it's their education you are ruining." Ok now... please continue to insult the intelligence of kids you don't know and tell me how well you are home schooling your own kids.

  • @bek12 A masters degree in education HAH what a joke. Let's see if any of those 'masters degree' holders could make a living in a competitive environment, like the free market. When college students fail out of their original discipline of study they usually end up in the school of education. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

  • @devildogger Devil, it's not very original of you to quote an old cliche and act like it's true. If you were brighter, you'd say that teaching is one of the very most important jobs that is done today. Bad teachers will equal poor students, of course, and that's a road we don't want to go down as a nation. You should be elevating our teachers, supporting them, instead of running them down to the dogs. Maybe you can brag about your master's degree and career success?

  • @bek12 We would have better teachers if we could fire them. That's why charter schools have a much higher rating for graduating students. A little competition would raise the bar. Here, middle school teachers are making $75,000 plus benefits for only working 9 months. And they still complain. No wonder California is going broke. What a waste.

  • @MrOTLChamp $75k a year in a place where homes cost half a million doesn't sound exorbitant to me, and you're talking a single number. Is that for teachers with 15 years experience, 20, 30, or what? Here, a new teacher starts out around $25k. That's chicken feed for a master's degree. Also, teachers can be fired for cause, even those with tenure. There is a shortage of teachers already. Smart people don't want to go into the field because it doesn't pay enough.

  • @TreesOnTheBeach Actually, the ave cost is more like 300k. $75k plus benefits is far too much for someone who only works 9 months out of the year. Then also has the power to strike for more wages and benefits. Not to mention they still can't compair to Charter schools. And lets not forget just how hard it is to fire a teacher. Unions rarely fire anyone.

  • @MrOTLChamp Everything you are saying sounds false. Teachers don't get off 3 months a year--they get off 6 weeks. And $75k... is that their salaries upon retirement? I'd like to see you link their salary scale for your state. Every state has one posted online. All teachers aren't part of a union, but I have seen teachers fired, union or not. Btw, in the statement telling me how they don't compare to charter schools, you misspelled "compare."

  • @TreesOnTheBeach My wife handles bankrupcy cases, and some teachers had to claim BK. In doing so they have to reveal their wages, therefore, I know ecactly what I'm talking about. And yes they only work 9 months out of the year. They get three weeks off for Christmas, another week off for Easter, multiple holidays, even ones they make up for themselves, plus two months off for summer. You do the math. I noticed after I posted, I had misspelled it, but I went to a public school. Sorry

  • @MrOTLChamp We can't really go anywhere productive with this discussion. You saying all teachers make $75k a year and counting up holidays as to proof of a ridiculous amount of time they have off. Well I have holidays off too, and you probably do as well. So what. And sorry, no, all teachers do not make $75k a year. They have a salary scale and usually start out making $25k or so a year, and that's with a master's degree. I went to a public school too, so please don't use that as an excuse.

  • @TreesOnTheBeach Read my post. " Here, middle school teachers are making $75,000 plus benefits for only working 9 months." I have some vacation days, like most of everyone else, but, I don't take all the usual vacation days like holidays, and still get 2 months off for summer, and 3 wks for Christmas, and another wk for easter. Thats atleast 3 months vacation out of the year. What do you think the average vacation time is for most employee's? Try about a week or 2, plus federal holidays

  • @MrOTLChamp According to teacherportal, teachers start out there at $35k a year and average $59k a year. They are not getting rich, MrOTLChamp. Not really sure what you're so upset about. I tried pasting the link, but apparently YouTube won't let me. Just search on "california teacher salary schedule" and it's the 5th link down.

  • violence some of you people need to check on workers history,check out the molley maquries,if some of you people think companies are so great,companies are the one yrs ago that did violence against the working person

  • this is bullshit

  • God,I want to fuck up these unions so bad.You go,gov. walker,we are behind u 100%.

  • @rw5791 Speak for yourself. I'm not behind that scum.

  • unions  suck

  • If this is the best you can find from the Wisconsin protests, then you're really reaching for it. A man maybe brushing a camera which was literally being shoved in his face.

    If someone did that to me, I'da decked the bitch.

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  • If pigs could vote, the man with the slop bucket would be elected swineherd every time, no matter how much slaughtering he did on the side.

    Omama: the man with the bucket

  • Most of these people with double their current workload at half their pay rate, would still have a better deal than the majority of the remaining working people.

  • Unions are America's original terrorists. If you think I am wrong search on Leon Altemose. Unions constantly burnt his projects down and wanted to kill him. If that is not terrorism what is? It is ok for them to stop non union work but threaten to stop Union jobs... then they go nuts! Any union that tries to stop anyone from making a living should be outlawed. Plain and simple.

  • @fuzzypaws17 I'm pretty sure citing an example from the 1970's doesn't suffice to qualify the union as America's original terrorists. But you get a thumbs up for your hyperbolic lead-in.

  • What a man, attacking a female with a camera in her hand. Union thugs know no decency. They've become worse than what they once fought against. They're a cancer on this nation.

  • "Union thugs" and "union bosses"... I'm pretty tired of hearing that BS. As the Vice-President of a local union, I can attest that I am a software developer, not a "thug" of any type. I don't "pack heat." I have never made an offer someone cannot refuse, nor have I given anyone a Columbian necktie. My "posse" consists of hard working employees and sometimes teachers. The teachers bring brownies sometimes.

  • @bek12 FUCK UNIONS.... you guys are the scum of the fucking united states......as much as scummy the rich are, im starting to think unions are the wosrt...

  • @fireking9934 You're too stupid to join a union, to stand beside your brothers and sister and bargain collectively. You deserve whatever scraps the real bosses throw your way.

  • @bek12 and you are to pathetic to be part of a union... you and all your union thugs are a joke....

  • @fireking9934 I don't follow your logic. You're not part of a union either, so does that mean you are also pathetic? Does it mean if someone is part of a union, they're not pathetic? Sounds like you're starting to think the right way! Congratulations!