Hey, I'm cut (born in the 1950s) and my son (born in the 1990s) is intact. As far as I can tell, his main sexual problem is juggling all those girlfriends.
@PushEastward I'm going to send you a link to the National Enquirer that says your parents were aliens. How is it that you don't understand what a good source is?
@PushEastward This is getting worse, not better...so your source is some guy on YouTube? I've done a few quick searches and I find nothing about this guy outside of youtube or so other blog style website. What exactly does he claim to be a "professor" of...and WHERE does he teach it? A French guy with a nutty idea is HARDLY "common knowledge." I run into idiots ALL THE TIME on here making stupid claims. I've about heard it all. This is one that I've NEVER heard before.
The foreskin helps protect the penis and urinary tract. That's why nature put skin there! If I planned to have children, and I had sons, I wouldn't cut them. I would be extremely adamant that they not be cut.
@bmxboy443 So...and this is just a thought...maybe you'd like your hand with only 4 fingers on it. It certainly looks better on cartoon characters. Maybe you'd like not having a pinky. So let's go ahead and cut off infant's pinkies because they might like it too!
Do you see? This issue isn't if you like it better. It's that you didn't get a say so to what happened to your own body. If you WANT to be circumcised as an adult....fine. But don't cut your baby. It hurts.
@bmxboy443 Well good for you. Of course you'll never know if you'd prefer to have an intact penis, because the choice has already been stolen from you.
What does it matter what girls think? If they can't accept a man's dick as it should be, then that's their tough shit. If there was in injection that could be given to baby girls that will make them grow large breasts later in life, would i's use be championed, or maligned?
a child isnt supposed to be able to retract the foreskin. some can, and some are able to sooner than others, but you never force it. until the boy can retract his foreskin, he should clean his member like you would a finger. that is good enough. most of the world is uncircumcised. they are fine, if not great. foreskin feels really good.
I totally agree. As has been pointed out alreadu, in Europe we just don't do it; it's a total non-issue. It's never even discussed as an option. And we (at least everybody I've spoken to about it) think it bizarre and even barbaric (sorry) of you Americans to do it.
The really stupidity about all the arguments in favour of circumcision is that most Europeans are not circumcised. Consequently it is very easy to compare a circumcised first world poulation (USA) with an uncircumcised first world population (Europe) and see whether the health claims and other 'advantages' stack up.
They do not.
Similarly the aids/HIV thing makes little sense - it's epidemiological and statistical nonsense. The HIV level in Europe is much lower than the US.
@SAHBfan While we certainly agree on circumcision, I feel it necessary to point out out that the reason Europe has a lower HIV rate is unrelated to circumcision. It's because they don't have this bizarre phobia that the religious right over here has about teaching proper safe sex!
@KingHeathen, the USA is actually relatively GOOD at wearing condoms compared to Europe and other nations. SOURCE: google/search:
"worldmapper condom use by men". (Click on "Open pdf poster"). This shows that condom use is actually highest in the USA! (NB. "worldmapper" is based on multiple surveys). Since USA is about 80% circumcised in its sexually active male population AND has a high incidence of STDs, I call bullshit on the notion that circumcison reduces STDs in developed nations.
@psandbergnz According to what I'm finding, I'd say that it's probably a difference in how they are doing the count. Not bad mouthing "worldmapper"...but the CDC (which I trust their accuracy a bit more) says that 71.4% of men 15-45 use a condom "NONE of the time" and only 22.5% use them "EVERY time". I tried to find something that was done the same way, but there wasn't anything dead on...but variations all showed UK, France, Italy, etc typically 10%+ lower in the "never" columns.
@EluzienkHiD NO biggie...I'll just delete the duplicates. To answer your question, I'd consult a doctor on it first. I don't think that circumcision will fix that though...in fact, it might make it worse.
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
a) sounds like there might be a good medical reason for you to have one - consult your doctor, and b) you'e an adult, making your own decisions. Completely different from doing this to a baby without their consent,
@EluzienkHiD Sounds like phimosis. This can be corrected through non-surgical means (ie steroid cream and/or some gentle stretching). If you want to retain your foreskin then consult a foreskin-friendly doctor for details. In other words, go to a GP and say you would rather this problem be solved without circumcision. It is relatively simple to correct.
Circing should increase chances of getting infections not reduce it. and i dont mean after the surgery but later in life.
The tip of the di*k is NOT regular skin, the same thats on ur hand or under ur foot, its much, much more fragile and vulnerable. And without any protective tough skin covering it, any rubbing against clothing can cause hundreds of micro wounds that enable viruses to bypass your body´s defenses .
@UninstallingWindows Over time the glans 'keratinises'. This means the surface of the glans toughens, developing a substance called keratain (found in human nails and animal hooves). This happens precisely because the glans is a pseudo-internal organ like the eyes. And this is how the glans of a circumcised male loses sensitivity over time.
Us Irish men are all sexually intact. You Americans sexually mutilate infant baby boys. America is rife with sexually transmitted diseases. Us Irish are in perfect health and we have never sexually mutilated our children.
I am a woman and I only a few times have seen an uncircumcised penis. The first time that I had a bf, and he was not circumcised, it was smelly...always!!! Going down on him was torture for me, even when he would wash it again. The smell was so bad, it was difficult not to puke.
I love oral sex, but nobody can enjoy it when the smell is sooo bad.
I beg you to reconsider restoring it, it will become infected, dirty, and it not aesthetic.
Most women have noses and can smell stink, and don't like it.
Maybe you can get a farm girl that is used to the smell of shit and animals, and is unaffected, but if you want a nice, clean normal girl, you will have a problem when the smell begins.
You are a moron, so I don't think any girl with a brain would want you anyway, chopping off the entire dick, so that you never reproduce would be the best choice.
Do not write me again..I presented facts, and you only write idiotic comments. Just cut off the entire penis, since your reproduction will just lead to more morons on the planet.
Show me a photo of you - I'm imagining a very ugly, man-hating cunt of a woman that very few men would want to fuck.
The stink of shit that comes out of your mouth in the form of ideas is sickening to the men here. To fix that, I say we all hold you down and slice out your tongue.
Moron...your picture if your icon. Did you even finish 4th grade? You seem proud of your stupidity and the fact that only a teenager, who doesn't have a fully formed brain, would be with you. In your own words, you are dating a teenager.
Hey, abbie, I'm still waiting for that photo! Well, it doesn't matter-you can't hide from the ugly man-hating frump that looks back at you in the mirror. Many here may be wondering why I was so harsh with her or why I didn't debate circumcision using 'facts and reason'. The reason is because she didn't come here to debate circumcision. The proponents of butchering babies penises always have other agendas. Right now she's on some other corner of the internet spewing some foul Zionist shit.
...Yep, that was her agenda, folks. I agree with you, abbie--- foul-smelling, useless flaps of skin should be sliced off -- now go slice off your own tongue, you foul bitch.
joshd321, or maybe abbie should get her own foreskin cut off (clitoral hood and inner labia) before insisting on the genital mutilation of helpless boys. She doesn't need all that slack skin on her vulva, which looks ugly, is prone to infection and to malodor. The very reasons she gives to promote male circumcision could be equally used to promote female genital cutting. In much of the Middle East the same contrived "rationale" is used for the genital cutting of both genders.
@abbienetvision An intact penis can have a 'scent', especially if not washed for a while. This is normal and is similar to the vagina. If this something that a man or his partner do not like then, like smegma, it can be solved by regular washing (once a day). For most men the scent of the vagina is just a fact; something they are aware of and may laugh about or even like. If the genitals of either a man or a woman smell bad then that is different and is indicative of health problems.
@abbienetvision It is probable hat your ex-bf had underlying health issues which needed to be addressed. Bad smells are always indicative of this, whether it is bad BO or bad breath. I wouldn't be surprised if your ex-bf had a terrible diet and a toxic body. Either that or you are greatly exaggerating the smell of his penis or overreacting to something minor and benign and natural.
I had mine foreskin removed 10years ago and thank GOD!! Sex and hygiene are way better! Plus most women prefer it by far Im just lolling at all these foreskin fanatics! Just say no to dick cheese! That shit accumulates ASAP even after you take a shower its nasty period.
This was a great video. Circumcision has no health benefits. It is a cure, searching for a disease. I was wondering though, are circ'd and upset or are you an intact male who just doens't understand? You don't need to answer if don't want, i am just curious.
The USA has one of the highest rate of circing and also one of the highest HIV/AIDS for a 1st world nation. Europe doens't circ (only religious people do) and they have a much much lower rate of HIV/AIDS. Really says something!
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
@abbienetvision Yes Aids is a huge issue in Africa, but had you read my response, I said the USA has the biggest AIDS problem for a FIRST WORLD NATION (and is some places circ rate is as high as 90%). But Africa isn't a first world nation, it is a THIRD world nation. Circing Men as way to prevent a disease is ridiculous. If an intact man has sex with an HIV + person, if he pulls his foreskin back and washes it within 15 minutes of sex, he can have the same "protection" that circing gives.
No washing even a second after sex will stop Aids, if it is already in your system. Everyone should know that there is no truth to washing as a prevention for AIDS.
@abbienetvision Actually, studies such as the following have shown otherwise. Virucidal Efficacy of Soap and Water against HIV in Genital Secretions. Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, Oct 2003, p. 3321-3322, Vol. 47, No. 10. Jonathan Z. Li, Elizabeth C. Mack, and Jay A. Levy.
@abbienetvision Actually some tribes in Africa have been practicing genital cutting long before the USA picked it up. The AIDS problem in Africa has, in my opinion, more to do with malnutrition and poverty and lack of clean water than foreskin. To my knowledge the circumcision studies in Africa were highly flawed. Even if they weren't, then I don't really see the point in them. We can't get clean water and food and medicine to people in Africa...
@abbienetvision ...How are we going to go around an entire continent circumcising every male? Who is going to pay for this? I don't think it is financially or logistically possible.
Your facts are not even real. Since you clearly do not go down on girls, think that your small penis can satisfy anyone, just shows your fcked up state of mind.
ElProximo and myself do not agree on much of anything...however, I must admit that he is dead on here.
You keep firing back with "small penis" and "you can't satisfy your woman" jokes...but that only serves to show how little you really have to say on the matter. Meanwhile, what he has said is accurate. An uncircumcised man has the SAME exposure to disease as an uncircumcised woman. What's good for the goose, ya know!
Clearly your women is a good actress, it has been proven that women can only cum through sensation to her clit. If she doesn't have one, she can never cum, but she can act as if she does.
I know men in Europe that had to be cut, due to the penis not being able to get out of the foreskin. The foreskin is proven to be a way to contact and spread AIDS easier also.
Please do not write me your lies again. It is clear to me, that you like a woman without a clit, since you would actually have to satisfy her, which you clearly can't do.
Many men are cut not when they are babies, but later in life, due to problems with the foreskin. I would prefer my son to not have to worry about having it removed when he is older.
Many men have their appendixes and tonsils taken out later in life too....did you have those removed as well? Would you even CONSIDER having those removed without anesthesia?
The chance of problems down the road is less than the chance of complications due to the cut (as I already pointed out)...
You are opting for more possible problems NOW to avoid less possible problems in the future. THINK ABOUT IT!
It is common knowledge that clotting before 9 days is something that a person will not have again. To compare something later in life to a baby who is cured within 1 day or 2, is just stupid and is not a comparison.
Anyone cut later is life is given anesthesia, so your comment really makes no sense, are you are bit mentally challenged?
Anesthesia is given for pain...so why do you think that infants don't need it? Have you ever heard them SCREAM from when the doctor CUTS OFF one of the most sensitive parts of their body?
But you are missing the point here....the child isn't "cured"...it wasn't SICK! It's supposedly a "preventative" measure, so do the others too. On top of that, the complications outnumber actual odds of needing it.
Oh, and spare the insults...it makes you look like you have nothing real to say.
"I would prefer my son to not have to worry about having it removed when he is older".--abbienetvision
Trust me, he won't worry about having it removed when he is older. If anything, he'll worry for the rest of his life about a healthy part of his male anatomy that was sliced off him without his consent.
@abbienetvision I wouldn't say many. In non-circumcising cultures most men are never circumcised at any age. It is only in pro-circumcising cultures like the USA (where babies are routinely cut after birth) that circumcision is the first treatment for any and all foreskin problems in children and adults.
Excuse my ignorance..but how come Xians don't have to be snipped?
On a tangent, maybe, due to the rebellious anti-roman activity of the jews at the time, a snip-job would allow you to distinguish friend from foe..," Oi! Thomas!", (no pun intended),"Get that new recruit's robe up and check if he's one of us- if not he's a spy".. ;p
Good post, but it's really not worth much until you watch a procedure. I have just downloaded a small movie, and it made me sick (and I'm not really the type to get sickened easily). It's BARBARIC!!! The poor baby screamed until he was all out of steam.
I hope she didn't do it out of spite towards you because that would be really sick to use one's child in that way. Even if she didn't, it still is a shame that our culture legally sanctions her behavior. I am sorry that it happened to your son.
BTW great job on the vid - you covered AIDS, look like daddy, infant vs adult, death rate etc, all quite well. I just hope more people take the time to fully watch and not just react defensively for choices they already made when they were uninformed.
when i was 13 i noticed a line that ran around the circumference of my penis(the scare from the circumcision). when i asked my dad about it. he told me to ask my mom, i came to find out that she told the doctor to do the circumcision while my dad was at work against his request. they were divorced two years later....
KingHeathen I hate circumcision just as much as you, and I removed my last comment because I didn't use the right message. I had my notes messed up, copy & pasted quickly with out reading! The copy function forgot to overwrite the right message I was going to use! Sorry about that! I did give this video 5 stars...
you misread my comment...take a deep breathe, calm down and read it again...I was talking about a specific type of "mentality" (in other words, the approach you were taking)
If you are offended by that, then fine. If you choose to unsub because we disagree on one topic, then your sub isn't worth much.
As to the "facts" find a stat that I presented that isn't accurate and we'll discuss that...otherwise, I stand by my conclusions.
sorry it took so long to get back to you since school is back in my computer time is much less
first i didn't unsub because we disagreed that is the basis of a good debate no i unsubbed because you insulted me. thinking that i should change my way of thinking to yours is still ( well ok maybe not insulting ) uncool
I like you and think you are a informed individual and want to resub (extenting the olive branch) and hope we can agree to disagree on other occations :)
AGAIN, I did not insult you...it's very clear that you misread my comment. I said nothing of the sort.
It's all cool though...we can all make mistakes.
As to "thinking my way"...isn't that the purpose of a debate? To show another person why your idea is better than theirs? However, if you aren't convinced...it's not a big deal. As I pointed out to you already....we aren't going to agree on EVERYTHING. I wouldn't expect you to.
there is PLENTY of info out there for anyone to make there own dicition as i did for my children
now i want you to know again i'm not disagreeing with you my ex-husband's hole was out the top of his penis not the end from his circumcision - it's just your making the facts bigger than than they really are to make your point lastly you can't compare female and male genitals they are compleatly different
it's not a lifelong thing? As I pointed out, there have been numerous instances where the child had to have his penis AMPUTATED...I think that's a bit "lifelong". Ya think that would get picked on in a locker room?
I just hate this "but it might save you in the future" mentality. OK, so we might get arthritis in our hands when we get older....do we cut those off as well?
And one last thing, then I'll shut up. An uncircumcised male has the same likelihood of getting an infection AS A WOMAN!
As a man, I can tell you that even if a guy does look at another man's penis...he's not going to admit it to his friends. Obviously there may be exceptions but as a general rule, guys don't want to be thought of as staring at penises....
unless they are gay, and even then, they wouldn't want to make others feel uncomfortable like they were checking them out.
Anyway, if nothing else, you can say that I am not worried about comparing mine to anyone else's and observe man-law 101: EYES STRAIGHT!
Well I suppose if my "clitoral hood" caused infection, then yes I would
lmao I mean don't you think that accent peoples reconized that and that is why they started circumcision and then passed it off on the public by saying god said so
Yeah, I myself was circumcised as a child, and I don't really care seeing as I can't change it, but I wish my parents didn't after watching this video, and I also wish society would view male circumcision the same way we view female circumcision.
Penises look like dead baby birds anyhow. There is nothing attractive about penises.
I read a case about a botched one. The child was then raised as a girl, and had a lot of problems later in life. I think he may have ended up killing himself. I know his twin brother did, but even if he didn't he hated his parents for what they did to him.
I'd like to ask a couple of personal questions. Did your parents circumcise you, and assuming you spared your son, did your ex-wife resist your decision?
Oh sadness. I want to adopt younglings, so I suppose that's not my choice to make, but should I somehow reproduce, I plan to leave my children intact, because really, if you can't trust your parents not to mutilate you during the first week, what can you trust them with?
But I actually want to state that the "theory" that says circumcision reduces someones chances of getting HIV by 50%-60% actually have not been proven. They are just theories. They have found some coreelating evidence in Africa about this but ever study done else where in the world has stated "We have not found a significant difference between circumcised and uncircumcised males when it comes to contracting HIV or other STDs"
This sounds too much like creationists arguing against evolution. "Theory" doesn't mean "unproven"...but you are correct, a proper study hasn't been done, because no one is going to submit to having sex with someone with AIDS to see if they get AIDS if not circumcised. Still, there are studies which back up the stats.
Well even if theory means that it isn't unproven then it still means it's not fact. And only believe facts.
lol I have been researching this subject for 4 years now. There are studys that show something and then don't show something. So I guess it really depends on what study you are look at.
then explain to me what a fact is (to you)...because there is no such thing as a 100% "fact"...it's all "theories" if you want to get technical about it.
Watch my video "Definition of a Theory" to get more detail.
Point is, GPs can do this in their office, not even a sterile clinic ($200 to $1000? Wow. Well, what i knew was from $1982, Sambucca :P). And, when you look at the number of "misadventures" and "idiopathic" problems and post op complications, it's scary.
In my opinion, the AMA and the WHO should declare only a competant neonatal surgeon can do circumcisions and not with a topical pain cream and a Gomco clamp.
Perhaps things would change if it cost $5000 to $20000 to have junior mutilated.
Oh, the 50% figure for reduction of getting STDs is also not correct from too many other studies done in countries where circumcision is not practised. There are only a few diseases that it *does* help with: Phimosis, chronic balantiasis and cancer of the prepuce. Of course, corrective surgery is better and cutting the cancer risk by circumcision is like getting your arm amputated to prevent skin cancer on your arm...
Actually the procedure can cost anything from $200 to $1,000 depending on the clinic. That doesn't include the incentives offered to doctors by pharmecutical companies to prescribe certain drugs for the after care. The foreskins are then used to manufacture expensive fibroblast and anti-aging cremes, which retail at around $100 in the US, one of which was plugged by Oprah Winfrey as being a wonderful alternative to a face lift.
Circumcision exists today because it makes people money.
I don't like circumcision because the idea of someone doing something to my body when I have no way of objecting to it is disgusting. Talk about the proclamation of owning something that's not yours. Yuck.
I feel so sorry for american boys. Lucky we don't have that weird custom in the UK. Isn't perspective a funny thing. Americans are WEIRD. I heard Americans have the least sex compared to other nations, I wonder why lol.
Good post. Thanks for speaking up. Teaching your son to wash his foreskin is easier and less harmful than cutting it off. Whether or not to have your foreskin amputated should be the choice of the individual penis owner, not his parents.
circ removes the penis's protection to illness (foreskin has its own imunological system) it dry's out to where the body has to creat a layer of protection over the head of the penis this prevents full sexual feeling in the glans most cut guy's feel the most pleasure at where the frenulum was attatched under the pee hole and that is just a remnant of the foreskin emagine what all those cut guy's are missing and to remove that and hav there son miss out on a full body shuddering orgasm is a crime
i want to say that circ. in the USA was mostly started bey doctores who said it cured a whole host of bizzar things like lower back pain,epelepsy,bad joints,prevented cervical cancer,urinary track infection,ect. it goes on.(and all are false)
and when people started seeing that it didnt cure those ailments circ. probly would hav died out but then they said it cured masterbation. witch any body who has been 14 cut or uncut knows thats not true.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
i wish that the folks who are either watching or responding to this vid admit that the real reason they are opposed to circumcision is because they don't want to look like JEWS!
I was hoping this wouldn't come up on these discussion on circumcision. Tsk. The realm of human rights and body integrity are blind to race, sex and religion. They're supposed to be anyway. It just strikes me as unfortunate that a famously persecuted group of people happen to 'cut' penises as part of their religion. Hopefully it won't be used as an anti-semitic scare tactic to intimidate anyone from addressing this awful trend in North America. Anyway, very good video. Guinness looks good too.
Ugh, I wanted to make a joke about the topic but the idea that infants die or lose their penis (even in such rare numbers) really doesn't sit well with me.
I don't care how fundamental you are, if you lost your newborn child over something like that, you can't just say "It was God's will," the only acceptable answer is "Fuck that shit!" Otherwise we ought to cut off yours... the whole thing. At that point you wouldn't need to be having more kids.
I don't get it. we cut off part of a boys penis when he's born. then spend the rest of his life telling him his penis is never big enough. what is up with this?
My nephew was circumcised when he was born and he is now 6 years old and wears diapers because the doctor cut off to much from his penis and now he cant urinate normally the doctor cut off so much that he urinates from under his penis. Also his mom had to put medications on him became it got infected the whole thing was such a mess and now at six going on seven he is still dealing with this. I feel terrible for the little guy.
well the parents deserved what they got u do something so pointless and stupid ect,i feel so srry for the little kid man so srry that he had stupid parents that cut off the most important part of the body srry one of the most important parts...i feel so bad for the kid omg...i hope u dont circumcise ure child cuz u see now whats the possibility...kids can die from circumcision docs can cut to deep in the circumcision causing the penis not to grow properly ect and it gets so bad they cut it off..
hehe good video king, I am from iceland and we do not circimcise (i hope i spelled that whrigt if i did not i hope you will correct me)our children. I am uncircumcised and it is fucking great it is a part of your body and has a purpose and if your a christian and you belive that god made man perfect and in his own image well than isint it a bit arrogant to cut off your childs foreskin whith is as much a creation of god as your hands or eyes think on that cristians have a nice day ;þ
in god is not great christopher hitchens discusses how hasidic judaism tradition is for the rabbi after circumsizing to suck of the foreskin with his mouth and spit it out...multiple babies died in the course of 2 years because of infection from this and it is still not outlawed
There is no clear way to parse the medical studies and controls and inaccuracies and biases, so the medical argument is an unnecessary path to take (but you did a better job than most). The overarching issue lies in the realm of ethics. Doctors are cutting off healthy, well-formed tissue from babies.
ISRAEL (95% male circ'n) pop. 6,689,749; HIV cases: 4309.
GREECE (negligible circ'n) pop. 11 million+; HIV cases 7134 (this is lower % than Israel).
HUNGARY (negl. circ'n) pop. 10,125,55; HIV cases: 1175.
Many other central European nations with low circ'n (e.g. NETHERLANDS, POLAND, NORWAY, FINLAND) have less HIV per capita than Israel and far less than USA (80% circ'n). Israel has high heterosexual HIV spread, and other STDs high (p. 258).
FACT: in industrialised nations - USA, Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan etc.- there is no evidence at all of a link between HIV infection and circumcision status. Any such link SHOULD be well established by now (25 years of global HIV epidemic!) -- it doesn't exist.
Hey, I'm cut (born in the 1950s) and my son (born in the 1990s) is intact. As far as I can tell, his main sexual problem is juggling all those girlfriends.
juliuschas 5 months ago
@PushEastward We're done. You are incapable of understanding what is required to support a position. Go bother someone else.
KingHeathen 7 months ago
@PushEastward I'm going to send you a link to the National Enquirer that says your parents were aliens. How is it that you don't understand what a good source is?
KingHeathen 7 months ago
@PushEastward So you are saying that you don't know....that's what I figured.
KingHeathen 7 months ago
@PushEastward This is getting worse, not better...so your source is some guy on YouTube? I've done a few quick searches and I find nothing about this guy outside of youtube or so other blog style website. What exactly does he claim to be a "professor" of...and WHERE does he teach it? A French guy with a nutty idea is HARDLY "common knowledge." I run into idiots ALL THE TIME on here making stupid claims. I've about heard it all. This is one that I've NEVER heard before.
KingHeathen 7 months ago
@PushEastward So I take it that you don't have an actual source for your assertion.
KingHeathen 7 months ago
@PushEastward Do you have a source for this claim? Because it smells of bullshit.
KingHeathen 7 months ago
"should i punch my kid in the face because he is going to annoy me when he is a teen"...awesome point!!
JohnKong20 9 months ago
Foregen is working to regenerate everything lost to circumcision at foregen.org
stkcarm5 1 year ago
The foreskin helps protect the penis and urinary tract. That's why nature put skin there! If I planned to have children, and I had sons, I wouldn't cut them. I would be extremely adamant that they not be cut.
CanadiaNecro1 1 year ago
I am so glat that I´m not mutulated that way.
VitoPossilipo 1 year ago
Ok, im not getting my child circumcised
jevans5145 1 year ago
chode
AtTheDitch 1 year ago
Idk about you guys but I LIKE the way me penis looks without the skin...
A majoity of girls I've been with prefer circumcised penises. Again that may be because I live in America, but idk.
I mean........... I like my penis without the skin.
bmxboy443 1 year ago
@bmxboy443 So...and this is just a thought...maybe you'd like your hand with only 4 fingers on it. It certainly looks better on cartoon characters. Maybe you'd like not having a pinky. So let's go ahead and cut off infant's pinkies because they might like it too!
Do you see? This issue isn't if you like it better. It's that you didn't get a say so to what happened to your own body. If you WANT to be circumcised as an adult....fine. But don't cut your baby. It hurts.
KingHeathen 1 year ago 14
@bmxboy443 I like the way my penis looks with the skin.
endofscene 1 year ago
@bmxboy443 sucks to be you
Andyterranbase1 1 year ago
@bmxboy443 Well good for you. Of course you'll never know if you'd prefer to have an intact penis, because the choice has already been stolen from you.
What does it matter what girls think? If they can't accept a man's dick as it should be, then that's their tough shit. If there was in injection that could be given to baby girls that will make them grow large breasts later in life, would i's use be championed, or maligned?
TheWorstWarlock 8 months ago
a child isnt supposed to be able to retract the foreskin. some can, and some are able to sooner than others, but you never force it. until the boy can retract his foreskin, he should clean his member like you would a finger. that is good enough. most of the world is uncircumcised. they are fine, if not great. foreskin feels really good.
fairfaerie 1 year ago
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stophacking4skins 1 year ago
I totally agree. As has been pointed out alreadu, in Europe we just don't do it; it's a total non-issue. It's never even discussed as an option. And we (at least everybody I've spoken to about it) think it bizarre and even barbaric (sorry) of you Americans to do it.
TracyCul 1 year ago 10
@TracyCul No need to apologize. I find it barbaric as well.
KingHeathen 1 year ago 5
@TracyCul totally agree mate really.
TheLovesoul1 8 months ago
The really stupidity about all the arguments in favour of circumcision is that most Europeans are not circumcised. Consequently it is very easy to compare a circumcised first world poulation (USA) with an uncircumcised first world population (Europe) and see whether the health claims and other 'advantages' stack up.
They do not.
Similarly the aids/HIV thing makes little sense - it's epidemiological and statistical nonsense. The HIV level in Europe is much lower than the US.
SAHBfan 1 year ago
@SAHBfan While we certainly agree on circumcision, I feel it necessary to point out out that the reason Europe has a lower HIV rate is unrelated to circumcision. It's because they don't have this bizarre phobia that the religious right over here has about teaching proper safe sex!
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen, the USA is actually relatively GOOD at wearing condoms compared to Europe and other nations. SOURCE: google/search:
"worldmapper condom use by men". (Click on "Open pdf poster"). This shows that condom use is actually highest in the USA! (NB. "worldmapper" is based on multiple surveys). Since USA is about 80% circumcised in its sexually active male population AND has a high incidence of STDs, I call bullshit on the notion that circumcison reduces STDs in developed nations.
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@psandbergnz According to what I'm finding, I'd say that it's probably a difference in how they are doing the count. Not bad mouthing "worldmapper"...but the CDC (which I trust their accuracy a bit more) says that 71.4% of men 15-45 use a condom "NONE of the time" and only 22.5% use them "EVERY time". I tried to find something that was done the same way, but there wasn't anything dead on...but variations all showed UK, France, Italy, etc typically 10%+ lower in the "never" columns.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen, interesting finding! If you find any more international comparisons on condom use, I'd appreciate hearing from you on this.
psandbergnz 1 year ago
@KingHeathen I don't know how much I would trust your CDC.
endofscene 1 year ago
Sorry i spammed that, i didnt think that was working lol... im a youtubenoob haha sorry
EluzienkHiD 1 year ago
@EluzienkHiD NO biggie...I'll just delete the duplicates. To answer your question, I'd consult a doctor on it first. I don't think that circumcision will fix that though...in fact, it might make it worse.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
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Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
EluzienkHiD 1 year ago
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Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
EluzienkHiD 1 year ago
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
EluzienkHiD 1 year ago
@EluzienkHiD
a) sounds like there might be a good medical reason for you to have one - consult your doctor, and b) you'e an adult, making your own decisions. Completely different from doing this to a baby without their consent,
TracyCul 1 year ago
@EluzienkHiD Sounds like phimosis. This can be corrected through non-surgical means (ie steroid cream and/or some gentle stretching). If you want to retain your foreskin then consult a foreskin-friendly doctor for details. In other words, go to a GP and say you would rather this problem be solved without circumcision. It is relatively simple to correct.
endofscene 1 year ago
is it only me who thinks otherwise?
Circing should increase chances of getting infections not reduce it. and i dont mean after the surgery but later in life.
The tip of the di*k is NOT regular skin, the same thats on ur hand or under ur foot, its much, much more fragile and vulnerable. And without any protective tough skin covering it, any rubbing against clothing can cause hundreds of micro wounds that enable viruses to bypass your body´s defenses .
would like a reply on that one
UninstallingWindows 1 year ago
@UninstallingWindows Over time the glans 'keratinises'. This means the surface of the glans toughens, developing a substance called keratain (found in human nails and animal hooves). This happens precisely because the glans is a pseudo-internal organ like the eyes. And this is how the glans of a circumcised male loses sensitivity over time.
endofscene 1 year ago
Us Irish men are all sexually intact. You Americans sexually mutilate infant baby boys. America is rife with sexually transmitted diseases. Us Irish are in perfect health and we have never sexually mutilated our children.
brendubab 1 year ago
Why the hell would you want it? I dont understand
ProSkateNate90 1 year ago
yeah theres also female circumcision, too, and it happens in i think some parts of africa.
JRockLovinAtheist 1 year ago
KingHeathen, have you looked into ( non-surgical) foreskin restoration? Just wondering. I started recently.
joshd321 2 years ago
@joshd321
I am a woman and I only a few times have seen an uncircumcised penis. The first time that I had a bf, and he was not circumcised, it was smelly...always!!! Going down on him was torture for me, even when he would wash it again. The smell was so bad, it was difficult not to puke.
I love oral sex, but nobody can enjoy it when the smell is sooo bad.
I beg you to reconsider restoring it, it will become infected, dirty, and it not aesthetic.
With a cut penis, I see it all & no smells.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
@abbienetvision
Lol. Nah, most women aren't idiots.
joshd321 2 years ago
@joshd321
Most women have noses and can smell stink, and don't like it.
Maybe you can get a farm girl that is used to the smell of shit and animals, and is unaffected, but if you want a nice, clean normal girl, you will have a problem when the smell begins.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
nah, if you're so concerned about eliminating foul-smelling shit , you should start with the stupidity coming out of your mouth.
joshd321 2 years ago
@joshd321
You are a moron, so I don't think any girl with a brain would want you anyway, chopping off the entire dick, so that you never reproduce would be the best choice.
Do not write me again..I presented facts, and you only write idiotic comments. Just cut off the entire penis, since your reproduction will just lead to more morons on the planet.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
Show me a photo of you - I'm imagining a very ugly, man-hating cunt of a woman that very few men would want to fuck.
The stink of shit that comes out of your mouth in the form of ideas is sickening to the men here. To fix that, I say we all hold you down and slice out your tongue.
joshd321 2 years ago
@joshd321
I look sooo much better than you do. You could never get a woman that looks like me to even spend 2 minutes talking to you.
I would show you myself, but you would spend every day jacking off your ugly dick go it, when I will not give you any pleasure.
I guarantee you that every man that sees me, wants to be with me, while most women will not pay any attention to you!
You sad pathetic prick!
abbienetvision 2 years ago
My girlfriend would laugh at your stupid words - she is less than half my age and very cute (I'm over 40) .
Show me your photo and I will rate you.
(You looked at mine, sneaky woman--my turn now).
I DARE you.
joshd321 2 years ago
@joshd321
Moron...your picture if your icon. Did you even finish 4th grade? You seem proud of your stupidity and the fact that only a teenager, who doesn't have a fully formed brain, would be with you. In your own words, you are dating a teenager.
You are really a pathetic, piece of crap!
abbienetvision 2 years ago
I said OVER 40. Less than half of OVER 40 can be over 20 - which she is. (Looks like one of us didn't finish 4th grade - and it's not me).
But that is beside the point.
The point is this: YOU checked out MY profile; and YOU saw MY photo.
In other words: You. Lurked. My. Profile. Sneaky. Woman.
Then you rated me.
Now YOU show me YOUR photo.
And I will rate you.
I'm waiting...
joshd321 2 years ago
@joshd321
I didn't check out anything about you, my time is too valuable to waste with that crap. Your icon is the picture of you..duh.
Every time you write a comment, the icon is shown when the receiver gets your comment.
Please do not write me again...chop off your dick, grow it, cut it...I don't care, so stop writing me!!
abbienetvision 2 years ago
I'll speak to you when it pleases me to do so.
I get it now-I take that part back. ( A man admits when he was wrong about something).
Nevertheless, you know what I look like-- and more importantly, you used that knowledge to RATE ME.
If you don't want to be rated yourself, then you would not have rated me.
BUT. YOU. DID.
Now. I. Get. To. Rate. You.
This is what is known as a dare.
I'm daring you.
Show me your photo...
joshd321 2 years ago
Hey, abbie, I'm still waiting for that photo! Well, it doesn't matter-you can't hide from the ugly man-hating frump that looks back at you in the mirror. Many here may be wondering why I was so harsh with her or why I didn't debate circumcision using 'facts and reason'. The reason is because she didn't come here to debate circumcision. The proponents of butchering babies penises always have other agendas. Right now she's on some other corner of the internet spewing some foul Zionist shit.
joshd321 2 years ago
...Yep, that was her agenda, folks. I agree with you, abbie--- foul-smelling, useless flaps of skin should be sliced off -- now go slice off your own tongue, you foul bitch.
joshd321 2 years ago
joshd321, or maybe abbie should get her own foreskin cut off (clitoral hood and inner labia) before insisting on the genital mutilation of helpless boys. She doesn't need all that slack skin on her vulva, which looks ugly, is prone to infection and to malodor. The very reasons she gives to promote male circumcision could be equally used to promote female genital cutting. In much of the Middle East the same contrived "rationale" is used for the genital cutting of both genders.
psandbergnz 2 years ago
@abbienetvision An intact penis can have a 'scent', especially if not washed for a while. This is normal and is similar to the vagina. If this something that a man or his partner do not like then, like smegma, it can be solved by regular washing (once a day). For most men the scent of the vagina is just a fact; something they are aware of and may laugh about or even like. If the genitals of either a man or a woman smell bad then that is different and is indicative of health problems.
endofscene 1 year ago
@abbienetvision It is probable hat your ex-bf had underlying health issues which needed to be addressed. Bad smells are always indicative of this, whether it is bad BO or bad breath. I wouldn't be surprised if your ex-bf had a terrible diet and a toxic body. Either that or you are greatly exaggerating the smell of his penis or overreacting to something minor and benign and natural.
endofscene 1 year ago
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I had mine foreskin removed 10years ago and thank GOD!! Sex and hygiene are way better! Plus most women prefer it by far Im just lolling at all these foreskin fanatics! Just say no to dick cheese! That shit accumulates ASAP even after you take a shower its nasty period.
fstms3 2 years ago
@fstms3
Thank you for the comment, since I am a female, but have had to smell the rotten cheese smell from uncut penises, and it is totally sickening.
You are so correct, that women like a nice, clean penis.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
all you people are sexual illiterate!
just read Voltaire and his opinions on mgm and jews!
or read oscar wilde and his despise of jews!
or read other sexually honest writers...
the nazis were far more sexually free than their enemies thats the truth!
IbnNero 2 years ago
This was a great video. Circumcision has no health benefits. It is a cure, searching for a disease. I was wondering though, are circ'd and upset or are you an intact male who just doens't understand? You don't need to answer if don't want, i am just curious.
The USA has one of the highest rate of circing and also one of the highest HIV/AIDS for a 1st world nation. Europe doens't circ (only religious people do) and they have a much much lower rate of HIV/AIDS. Really says something!
bellbirthing 2 years ago
I was and my son was too...both against my will.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
how was your son circ'd against your will? That sounds awful
bellbirthing 2 years ago
I didn't have him cut; but after my wife and I divorced, she did it.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
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@KingHeathen
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
EluzienkHiD 1 year ago
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@KingHeathen
Haha this may seem a bit gross, but i want to get it done because everytime i get a rocker!! My F'skin is splitting at the point of greatest tension, its like my Glans Head(aka knob) wants to expand more but seem restricted! is circumcision the right move in this case i would to know?
EluzienkHiD 1 year ago
@bellbirthing
Actually, the biggest AIDS dilemma is in Africa, where nobody hardly is circumcised.
That is common knowledge, Africa is the birthplace of AIDS and the biggest carrier of the disease.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
@abbienetvision Yes Aids is a huge issue in Africa, but had you read my response, I said the USA has the biggest AIDS problem for a FIRST WORLD NATION (and is some places circ rate is as high as 90%). But Africa isn't a first world nation, it is a THIRD world nation. Circing Men as way to prevent a disease is ridiculous. If an intact man has sex with an HIV + person, if he pulls his foreskin back and washes it within 15 minutes of sex, he can have the same "protection" that circing gives.
bellbirthing 1 year ago
@bellbirthing
No washing even a second after sex will stop Aids, if it is already in your system. Everyone should know that there is no truth to washing as a prevention for AIDS.
abbienetvision 1 year ago
@abbienetvision Actually, studies such as the following have shown otherwise. Virucidal Efficacy of Soap and Water against HIV in Genital Secretions. Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, Oct 2003, p. 3321-3322, Vol. 47, No. 10. Jonathan Z. Li, Elizabeth C. Mack, and Jay A. Levy.
endofscene 1 year ago
@abbienetvision Actually some tribes in Africa have been practicing genital cutting long before the USA picked it up. The AIDS problem in Africa has, in my opinion, more to do with malnutrition and poverty and lack of clean water than foreskin. To my knowledge the circumcision studies in Africa were highly flawed. Even if they weren't, then I don't really see the point in them. We can't get clean water and food and medicine to people in Africa...
endofscene 1 year ago
@abbienetvision ...How are we going to go around an entire continent circumcising every male? Who is going to pay for this? I don't think it is financially or logistically possible.
endofscene 1 year ago
@bellbirthing A "cure searching for a disease" - really well put.
thetshirtblog 1 year ago
Has this been votebotted?
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
probably...most of my videos are.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I admit I do not know your channel at all, but yes, it does appear the type that would be votebotted.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
That's what happens when they can't rebut you...they try to censor you.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Yes, I noticed. I've been flagged twice - only the first time actually did anything besides disable the video - by people who have no argument.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
El,
Your facts are not even real. Since you clearly do not go down on girls, think that your small penis can satisfy anyone, just shows your fcked up state of mind.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
ElProximo and myself do not agree on much of anything...however, I must admit that he is dead on here.
You keep firing back with "small penis" and "you can't satisfy your woman" jokes...but that only serves to show how little you really have to say on the matter. Meanwhile, what he has said is accurate. An uncircumcised man has the SAME exposure to disease as an uncircumcised woman. What's good for the goose, ya know!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
El,
Clearly your women is a good actress, it has been proven that women can only cum through sensation to her clit. If she doesn't have one, she can never cum, but she can act as if she does.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
Kind of off topic here but.. Proven??? lol I'd like to see that proof. I am a woman and I know there is a G Spot INSIDE of women's bodies.
ardentdream 2 years ago
arden,
It is not proven, and I am like yourself, that I don't believe in the G spot.
That is why the only reason a man would want a cut woman, is so he will not have to worry about satisfying her.
The Islamic women, in Egypt and other countries, have their clits removed so they will not enjoy sex.
An Egyptian woman explains that since the Islamic men must go away for a year to do Jihad, the women will only be calm if they are cut.
Islamic female genital mutilation in Egypt v=JbhBXnnv6SM
abbienetvision 2 years ago
You are a brainwashed jew who thinks circumcision is right because you can't admit that your religion has imperfections. NO RELIGION IS PERFECT.
Bazylewiczkuban 2 years ago
El,
Statistic are against your personal stupid view.
I know men in Europe that had to be cut, due to the penis not being able to get out of the foreskin. The foreskin is proven to be a way to contact and spread AIDS easier also.
Please do not write me your lies again. It is clear to me, that you like a woman without a clit, since you would actually have to satisfy her, which you clearly can't do.
You poor prick!
abbienetvision 2 years ago
El,
I am 43 and do not have any problems, so why would I? Because an idiot like you says to...right! Thanks for the laugh.
Too bad your dad's entire penis wasn't cut off before he had a chance to bring a moron like you into the world.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
They gave me a T-shirt that says I SURVIVED CIRCUMCISION.
shadyparadox 2 years ago
Many men are cut not when they are babies, but later in life, due to problems with the foreskin. I would prefer my son to not have to worry about having it removed when he is older.
abbienetvision 2 years ago
Many men have their appendixes and tonsils taken out later in life too....did you have those removed as well? Would you even CONSIDER having those removed without anesthesia?
The chance of problems down the road is less than the chance of complications due to the cut (as I already pointed out)...
You are opting for more possible problems NOW to avoid less possible problems in the future. THINK ABOUT IT!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
heathen, (suitable handle)
It is common knowledge that clotting before 9 days is something that a person will not have again. To compare something later in life to a baby who is cured within 1 day or 2, is just stupid and is not a comparison.
Anyone cut later is life is given anesthesia, so your comment really makes no sense, are you are bit mentally challenged?
abbienetvision 2 years ago
Anesthesia is given for pain...so why do you think that infants don't need it? Have you ever heard them SCREAM from when the doctor CUTS OFF one of the most sensitive parts of their body?
But you are missing the point here....the child isn't "cured"...it wasn't SICK! It's supposedly a "preventative" measure, so do the others too. On top of that, the complications outnumber actual odds of needing it.
Oh, and spare the insults...it makes you look like you have nothing real to say.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
"I would prefer my son to not have to worry about having it removed when he is older".--abbienetvision
Trust me, he won't worry about having it removed when he is older. If anything, he'll worry for the rest of his life about a healthy part of his male anatomy that was sliced off him without his consent.
joshd321 2 years ago
@abbienetvision I wouldn't say many. In non-circumcising cultures most men are never circumcised at any age. It is only in pro-circumcising cultures like the USA (where babies are routinely cut after birth) that circumcision is the first treatment for any and all foreskin problems in children and adults.
endofscene 1 year ago
Excuse my ignorance..but how come Xians don't have to be snipped?
On a tangent, maybe, due to the rebellious anti-roman activity of the jews at the time, a snip-job would allow you to distinguish friend from foe..," Oi! Thomas!", (no pun intended),"Get that new recruit's robe up and check if he's one of us- if not he's a spy".. ;p
DruidUK 2 years ago
@DruidUK Because the New Testament does not require it (eg book of Acts). Also the Roman Catholic Church made a decree against it in the 15th Century.
The Jews looked different than the Romans. Some Jews 'restored' their foreskins in order to assimilate into Graeco-Roman culture.
endofscene 1 year ago
Good post, but it's really not worth much until you watch a procedure. I have just downloaded a small movie, and it made me sick (and I'm not really the type to get sickened easily). It's BARBARIC!!! The poor baby screamed until he was all out of steam.
sebyhsa 2 years ago 5
Hi KingHeathen,
Why did your ex wife have your son cut? Did she know about your opinion on the matter when she did it?
RosieAndCo 2 years ago
Yes, and yes.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Was there any type of plausible pretext or did she do it just to hurt you?
RosieAndCo 2 years ago
she bought into the lie that it was "best" for him. When he screamed....it didn't seem all that "best" to me.
*I just realized that I misread your first comment. I somehow overlooked the "why"...sorry*
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I hope she didn't do it out of spite towards you because that would be really sick to use one's child in that way. Even if she didn't, it still is a shame that our culture legally sanctions her behavior. I am sorry that it happened to your son.
BTW great job on the vid - you covered AIDS, look like daddy, infant vs adult, death rate etc, all quite well. I just hope more people take the time to fully watch and not just react defensively for choices they already made when they were uninformed.
RosieAndCo 2 years ago
yeah woman are bitches about the foreskin thing and are impressionable to a doctors discression, my son was mutilated at the hospital after birth
320iguy 2 years ago
when i was 13 i noticed a line that ran around the circumference of my penis(the scare from the circumcision). when i asked my dad about it. he told me to ask my mom, i came to find out that she told the doctor to do the circumcision while my dad was at work against his request. they were divorced two years later....
320iguy 2 years ago 3
poor guy... *gives awkward bro hug*
JustaEropeanGuy 2 years ago
can't change teh past, but i do wondwe about what sex is like with one?
320iguy 2 years ago
I couldn't imagine what would it be without.
JustaEropeanGuy 2 years ago
wow O_o really now i want too die LOL.
320iguy 2 years ago
KingHeathen I hate circumcision just as much as you, and I removed my last comment because I didn't use the right message. I had my notes messed up, copy & pasted quickly with out reading! The copy function forgot to overwrite the right message I was going to use! Sorry about that! I did give this video 5 stars...
Circumcision is curruption!!
seaco2000 2 years ago
Lastly what you said about saving me mentally is insulting as if i need your help in thinking clearly - I DON'T
I usually like to hear your opinion as long as you don't try to mix it in with the facts and call it all fact
UNSUB
horseygallup 2 years ago
you misread my comment...take a deep breathe, calm down and read it again...I was talking about a specific type of "mentality" (in other words, the approach you were taking)
If you are offended by that, then fine. If you choose to unsub because we disagree on one topic, then your sub isn't worth much.
As to the "facts" find a stat that I presented that isn't accurate and we'll discuss that...otherwise, I stand by my conclusions.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
sorry it took so long to get back to you since school is back in my computer time is much less
first i didn't unsub because we disagreed that is the basis of a good debate no i unsubbed because you insulted me. thinking that i should change my way of thinking to yours is still ( well ok maybe not insulting ) uncool
I like you and think you are a informed individual and want to resub (extenting the olive branch) and hope we can agree to disagree on other occations :)
krystal
horseygallup 2 years ago
AGAIN, I did not insult you...it's very clear that you misread my comment. I said nothing of the sort.
It's all cool though...we can all make mistakes.
As to "thinking my way"...isn't that the purpose of a debate? To show another person why your idea is better than theirs? However, if you aren't convinced...it's not a big deal. As I pointed out to you already....we aren't going to agree on EVERYTHING. I wouldn't expect you to.
*big hug*
Now back to regularly scheduled programing.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
again you are squewing the facts !!
there is PLENTY of info out there for anyone to make there own dicition as i did for my children
now i want you to know again i'm not disagreeing with you my ex-husband's hole was out the top of his penis not the end from his circumcision - it's just your making the facts bigger than than they really are to make your point lastly you can't compare female and male genitals they are compleatly different
horseygallup 2 years ago
well duh who hasn't heard of that..:) you don't have to pull back the hood and clean under it to keep from getting an infection
you are squewing the facts to make your point
yeah the "cut" like any outer "cut" can get an infection but is not a lifelong thing I get it you don't like circumcision
horseygallup 2 years ago
it's not a lifelong thing? As I pointed out, there have been numerous instances where the child had to have his penis AMPUTATED...I think that's a bit "lifelong". Ya think that would get picked on in a locker room?
I just hate this "but it might save you in the future" mentality. OK, so we might get arthritis in our hands when we get older....do we cut those off as well?
And one last thing, then I'll shut up. An uncircumcised male has the same likelihood of getting an infection AS A WOMAN!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
King,
I really enjoy your videos, but this one
I fought with myself with what to do with my boys
I was a single mom when my boys were born
you said who looks at other men's penis's in the locker room?......uh everyone
I have never met a man who isn't self conscience of their penis or who didn't locker room stories
it is a horrible thing but not because it is "mutilation" but because they don't use any anistedic (sorry about the spelling)
I look at it like wisdom teeth
horseygallup 2 years ago
As a man, I can tell you that even if a guy does look at another man's penis...he's not going to admit it to his friends. Obviously there may be exceptions but as a general rule, guys don't want to be thought of as staring at penises....
unless they are gay, and even then, they wouldn't want to make others feel uncomfortable like they were checking them out.
Anyway, if nothing else, you can say that I am not worried about comparing mine to anyone else's and observe man-law 101: EYES STRAIGHT!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Do you think of your clitoral hood like wisdom teeth?
RosieAndCo 2 years ago
Well I suppose if my "clitoral hood" caused infection, then yes I would
lmao I mean don't you think that accent peoples reconized that and that is why they started circumcision and then passed it off on the public by saying god said so
have a great day!! :)
horseygallup 2 years ago
actually, it can...but more importantly, you do realize that there IS a such thing as female circumcision, right?
Not to mention that your suggestion of "infection" is wiped out with the fact that the child is MORE prone to infection from the CUT!
I covered those stats in the video, remember?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Hm...
Yeah, I myself was circumcised as a child, and I don't really care seeing as I can't change it, but I wish my parents didn't after watching this video, and I also wish society would view male circumcision the same way we view female circumcision.
ElDeclan 2 years ago
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seaco2000 2 years ago
seaco, this video is NOT pro-circumcision!
Sudies in developed nations repeatedly show that circumcised men do not have any particular protection or advantage against STDs.
psandbergnz 2 years ago 7
you didn't even watch the video, did you?
I cover the points you made and support your position...maybe you shouldn't be so quick to post. Your comment gets a ZERO.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
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seaco2000 2 years ago
again,religion at its finest insanity.
fuck conformity too
TLSlayer 2 years ago 3
Penises look like dead baby birds anyhow. There is nothing attractive about penises.
I read a case about a botched one. The child was then raised as a girl, and had a lot of problems later in life. I think he may have ended up killing himself. I know his twin brother did, but even if he didn't he hated his parents for what they did to him.
I'd like to ask a couple of personal questions. Did your parents circumcise you, and assuming you spared your son, did your ex-wife resist your decision?
zabriel13 2 years ago
yes, I tried, and she went behind my back. The bitch!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Oh sadness. I want to adopt younglings, so I suppose that's not my choice to make, but should I somehow reproduce, I plan to leave my children intact, because really, if you can't trust your parents not to mutilate you during the first week, what can you trust them with?
zabriel13 2 years ago 2
I love this video.
But I actually want to state that the "theory" that says circumcision reduces someones chances of getting HIV by 50%-60% actually have not been proven. They are just theories. They have found some coreelating evidence in Africa about this but ever study done else where in the world has stated "We have not found a significant difference between circumcised and uncircumcised males when it comes to contracting HIV or other STDs"
I loved this video, thank you for posting it.
Connor122707 3 years ago
"They are just theories." *Cringes*
This sounds too much like creationists arguing against evolution. "Theory" doesn't mean "unproven"...but you are correct, a proper study hasn't been done, because no one is going to submit to having sex with someone with AIDS to see if they get AIDS if not circumcised. Still, there are studies which back up the stats.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
oh...that seemed to come off weird...I do still thank you for your comments...just wanted to clear up that detail.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
Well even if theory means that it isn't unproven then it still means it's not fact. And only believe facts.
lol I have been researching this subject for 4 years now. There are studys that show something and then don't show something. So I guess it really depends on what study you are look at.
Connor122707 3 years ago
then explain to me what a fact is (to you)...because there is no such thing as a 100% "fact"...it's all "theories" if you want to get technical about it.
Watch my video "Definition of a Theory" to get more detail.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
Point is, GPs can do this in their office, not even a sterile clinic ($200 to $1000? Wow. Well, what i knew was from $1982, Sambucca :P). And, when you look at the number of "misadventures" and "idiopathic" problems and post op complications, it's scary.
In my opinion, the AMA and the WHO should declare only a competant neonatal surgeon can do circumcisions and not with a topical pain cream and a Gomco clamp.
Perhaps things would change if it cost $5000 to $20000 to have junior mutilated.
RyuDarragh 3 years ago
Oh, the 50% figure for reduction of getting STDs is also not correct from too many other studies done in countries where circumcision is not practised. There are only a few diseases that it *does* help with: Phimosis, chronic balantiasis and cancer of the prepuce. Of course, corrective surgery is better and cutting the cancer risk by circumcision is like getting your arm amputated to prevent skin cancer on your arm...
RyuDarragh 3 years ago 2
Hehe.. yeah.
1.) Prevents disease/hygeine. Translation: Mommy does not have to teach junior how to keep his pud clean when he matures.
2.) To be like daddy. Wha? Oops. Other way around. Dad was intact.
But, it's also very lucrative for doctors because any hack with a degree from med school can circumcise an infant at $100 a pop.
RyuDarragh 3 years ago
Actually the procedure can cost anything from $200 to $1,000 depending on the clinic. That doesn't include the incentives offered to doctors by pharmecutical companies to prescribe certain drugs for the after care. The foreskins are then used to manufacture expensive fibroblast and anti-aging cremes, which retail at around $100 in the US, one of which was plugged by Oprah Winfrey as being a wonderful alternative to a face lift.
Circumcision exists today because it makes people money.
Sambucca 3 years ago
I don't like circumcision because the idea of someone doing something to my body when I have no way of objecting to it is disgusting. Talk about the proclamation of owning something that's not yours. Yuck.
BMWmotorrad14 3 years ago
I feel so sorry for american boys. Lucky we don't have that weird custom in the UK. Isn't perspective a funny thing. Americans are WEIRD. I heard Americans have the least sex compared to other nations, I wonder why lol.
princessannikki 3 years ago
huh...im gonna have to think about this one...
kingmajin 3 years ago
Good post. Thanks for speaking up. Teaching your son to wash his foreskin is easier and less harmful than cutting it off. Whether or not to have your foreskin amputated should be the choice of the individual penis owner, not his parents.
flyingsaucerscandal 3 years ago 2
I understand if there are medical reasons, but there are just some cultural traits that can and should be remembered but not practiced.
pienipaha 3 years ago 2
definatly 100%
rottentreats98 3 years ago
circ removes the penis's protection to illness (foreskin has its own imunological system) it dry's out to where the body has to creat a layer of protection over the head of the penis this prevents full sexual feeling in the glans most cut guy's feel the most pleasure at where the frenulum was attatched under the pee hole and that is just a remnant of the foreskin emagine what all those cut guy's are missing and to remove that and hav there son miss out on a full body shuddering orgasm is a crime
rottentreats98 3 years ago 3
i want to say that circ. in the USA was mostly started bey doctores who said it cured a whole host of bizzar things like lower back pain,epelepsy,bad joints,prevented cervical cancer,urinary track infection,ect. it goes on.(and all are false)
and when people started seeing that it didnt cure those ailments circ. probly would hav died out but then they said it cured masterbation. witch any body who has been 14 cut or uncut knows thats not true.
rottentreats98 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i wish that the folks who are either watching or responding to this vid admit that the real reason they are opposed to circumcision is because they don't want to look like JEWS!
oaklynlen 3 years ago
oaklynlen...that comment was utterly tasteless. I certainly hope you were joking and I don't see any others like it from you in the future.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
I was hoping this wouldn't come up on these discussion on circumcision. Tsk. The realm of human rights and body integrity are blind to race, sex and religion. They're supposed to be anyway. It just strikes me as unfortunate that a famously persecuted group of people happen to 'cut' penises as part of their religion. Hopefully it won't be used as an anti-semitic scare tactic to intimidate anyone from addressing this awful trend in North America. Anyway, very good video. Guinness looks good too.
albertaplum 3 years ago
It was Amberbock, but thanks.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
mmmm Guinness yum
all that light beer is for queers lol
though killians red is quite good
rottentreats98 3 years ago
ditto kingheaten
rottentreats98 3 years ago
Ugh, I wanted to make a joke about the topic but the idea that infants die or lose their penis (even in such rare numbers) really doesn't sit well with me.
I don't care how fundamental you are, if you lost your newborn child over something like that, you can't just say "It was God's will," the only acceptable answer is "Fuck that shit!" Otherwise we ought to cut off yours... the whole thing. At that point you wouldn't need to be having more kids.
kreskinkun 3 years ago
I don't get it. we cut off part of a boys penis when he's born. then spend the rest of his life telling him his penis is never big enough. what is up with this?
ccrinc 3 years ago
LOL "I might as well cut your hand off so you can avoid arthritis" FUCKING PRICELESS!!!
Great video: 5
bdcarlitosway 3 years ago 2
Clean it, and use a condom! There, problem solved!
Hey, some have parties for the carving, not to mention an entire audience!
fflybz 3 years ago
My nephew was circumcised when he was born and he is now 6 years old and wears diapers because the doctor cut off to much from his penis and now he cant urinate normally the doctor cut off so much that he urinates from under his penis. Also his mom had to put medications on him became it got infected the whole thing was such a mess and now at six going on seven he is still dealing with this. I feel terrible for the little guy.
lovelykiki27 3 years ago
well the parents deserved what they got u do something so pointless and stupid ect,i feel so srry for the little kid man so srry that he had stupid parents that cut off the most important part of the body srry one of the most important parts...i feel so bad for the kid omg...i hope u dont circumcise ure child cuz u see now whats the possibility...kids can die from circumcision docs can cut to deep in the circumcision causing the penis not to grow properly ect and it gets so bad they cut it off..
halfpound92 3 years ago 3
hehe good video king, I am from iceland and we do not circimcise (i hope i spelled that whrigt if i did not i hope you will correct me)our children. I am uncircumcised and it is fucking great it is a part of your body and has a purpose and if your a christian and you belive that god made man perfect and in his own image well than isint it a bit arrogant to cut off your childs foreskin whith is as much a creation of god as your hands or eyes think on that cristians have a nice day ;þ
agirshjalmur 3 years ago 2
in god is not great christopher hitchens discusses how hasidic judaism tradition is for the rabbi after circumsizing to suck of the foreskin with his mouth and spit it out...multiple babies died in the course of 2 years because of infection from this and it is still not outlawed
awhelnaw 3 years ago
There is no clear way to parse the medical studies and controls and inaccuracies and biases, so the medical argument is an unnecessary path to take (but you did a better job than most). The overarching issue lies in the realm of ethics. Doctors are cutting off healthy, well-formed tissue from babies.
ryanmczero 3 years ago
SOURCE: WHO HIV Europe (online) p. 245-:
ISRAEL (95% male circ'n) pop. 6,689,749; HIV cases: 4309.
GREECE (negligible circ'n) pop. 11 million+; HIV cases 7134 (this is lower % than Israel).
HUNGARY (negl. circ'n) pop. 10,125,55; HIV cases: 1175.
Many other central European nations with low circ'n (e.g. NETHERLANDS, POLAND, NORWAY, FINLAND) have less HIV per capita than Israel and far less than USA (80% circ'n). Israel has high heterosexual HIV spread, and other STDs high (p. 258).
psandbergnz 4 years ago
FACT: in industrialised nations - USA, Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan etc.- there is no evidence at all of a link between HIV infection and circumcision status. Any such link SHOULD be well established by now (25 years of global HIV epidemic!) -- it doesn't exist.
psandbergnz 4 years ago