Clint Eastwood On Convincing Gene Hackman To Be In UNFORGIVEN

[shivanebangkok2008]

one best example of a violent film that gene hackman turned down was silence of the lamb...would have suited him

[TheDarkKnight1983]

He didn't want to do anymore violent movies? Okay now that makes perfect sense! This totally explains to me why he did The Quick and the Dead three years later......Yep!

[Blastaar7]

Real story. "i told him to read it again and gave him a piercing gaze.... then he came back and was like, ok yeah i'll do it."

[Holiday216]

@RichardElden Hackman douchebag

[RenoDoctor]

Eastwood forged his entire repute via silver screen gratuitous violence. You'd have to be irrevocably naive to swallow the "anti-violence' line. Hollywood churns out maybe one movie out of all each year that's actually any good, and Eastwood films aren't one. Pale Rider, as a a presented story, annihilates Unforgiven. and even the former is totally ridiculous. The real historical West was nothing like Hollywood depicts.

[pauldames1]

such an interesting man....jazz pianist too. And when they were giving him a tribute one night, and all the major stars were there, he was addressing them as Mr. Grant (Cary), Mr. Fonda, etc... What a real guy...

[tlcity]

@kenfo0

Well said

[Metalbob011]

Clint is the lord of great men of such action movies in my book. Clint and Charles Bronson are epic hero's and no one can replace what they have done. We are loosing our hero's everyday...althought there will be more, there will never be anymore like these guy's.

[lialammas]

I guess it is hard in an actor to always plays a violent person.

I heard that some actors even get sick of playing a violent person.

[wheelmanstan]

Love those guys, so old and wise. Not like Anthony Hopkins who does dumb ass exorcism movies at 74 years old.

Would love to see hackman, eastwood, freeman, duvall, jones in one more western, but maybe its too late. Duvall and jones could swing it though, they're amazing.

[ExtremeBogom]

@wheelmanstan

Hopkins is more than that...

[MOGGS1942]

@wheelmanstan Go see "Remains of the day",and if you still want to see a "dumb ass",go look in a mirror.

[wheelmanstan]

@MOGGS1942 thanks, does it matter what mirror I look in?

[kozmon0t]

Unforgiven was anti only to needless violence. It showed violence as a force of nature.

The violence starts out with no context, and gradually gains context until at the end, a mass murder comes off as the work of an avenging angel, and the viewer finds glory and justice in brutality. The message, if any, is the viewer is just as brutal and mean as anyone else, including all the main characters. As Will says, "we all got it coming." and "Deserves got nothing to do with it."



[jjg1576]

I think the anti violence remark is in regards to the fact that the characters that participate in the violence all end up worse off (or dead) in the end.

The only one who doesn't is Munny, but essentially it is violence that has control of his life (for most of the movie he talks about how he regrets some of the killings and how they haunt him now). All of the characters who admire violence (The Schofield Kid and the writer) find out the harsh truth about it in the end. Anyhow, I loved it!

[TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

The only reason the Academy gave Eastwood the Oscar was because it was a Anti-Violence movie. The movie itself was weak

[nedalnekbrad]

@TELEVISIONARCHIVES It didn't get an oscar because it was anti violence . It got an oscar because it's a great deconstruction movie : detective/mystery 's legend Chandler said about Hammet another legend "he took murder out of the Venetian vase and dropped it into the alley" Eastwood did the same for western . No more idealization . Cowboys are illeterate, crude , dumb , drunk , dirty peasants . Duel are not a matter of skill but luck and coldblood  and cheap shots pay off .

[TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

@nedalnekbrad I didn't like it . Many Critics didn't . It wasn't his best movie.

[nedalnekbrad]

@TELEVISIONARCHIVES just because you don't like it doesn't mean it s weak. Those are 2 different concepts . I hate with passion the hours but in its genre I acknowledge it's an excellent movie . Same thing for lost in translation . Many critics didn't like it ? 96 percent on critics aggregator rotten tomatoes .... on the contrary I would say there are few movies that gather this kind of consensus . Bottom line this movie is the standard for the deconstruction exercice in movies .

[roquefortfiles]

@TELEVISIONARCHIVES I completely agree!!! I have NEVER thought Unforgiven was a particularly good film. Its top heavy with too many name faces and rather blandly directed. I went and saw it during the heyday of its run along with all of the hoopla around it. I thought i was the only one who came out feeling.."Meeh". I have never thought it was anything other than a big bland studio flick

[chillywinter16]

@roquefortfiles unforgiven is an amzing movie dude

[chillywinter16]

@TELEVISIONARCHIVES no it wasnt

[FromanMD]

The Anti-Violence message of this movie is targeted at those who have the capacity to do violence and might even have become complacent about the use of force or violence as a means to solve problems possibly either in a professional capacity or merely as a violent lifestyle. The sentiment threaded throughout this movie has the same feel as the old soldier who won't talk about "the war" or the overly compassionate retired cop who saw too much on the job and spends their time helping kids, raw

[kenfo0]

I didn't get an anti-violence vibe. I thought it was a great movie. When you look at people's responses about what they liked, it often REVOLVES around the violence, so it clearly missed that mark. Through 2/3 of the movie, the WM character was excellent...a man struggling with his past, allowing himself to be drug back into it. The sissy little writer was an excellent vehicle in the movie, and is how most people are: all *iss and vinegar, glorifying violence, but cowards themselves.

[kenfo0]

I didn't get an anti-violence vibe. I thought it was a great movie. When you look at people's responses about what they liked, it often REVOLVES around the violence, so it clearly missed that mark. Through 2/3 of the movie, the Munny character was excellent...a man struggling with his past, allowing himself to be drug back into it. The pissy little writer was an excellent vehicle in the movie, and is how most people are: all piss and vinegar, glorifying violence, but cowards themselves.

[kenfo0]

I didn't get an anti-violence vibe. I thought it was a great movie. When you look at people's responses about what they liked, it often REVOLVES around the violence, so it clearly missed that mark. Through 2/3 of the movie, the Munny character was excellent...a man struggling with his past, allowing himself to be drug back into it. The pissy little writer was an excellent vehicle in the movie, and is how most people are: all piss and vinegar, glorifying violence, but cowards themselves.

[DrCruel]

I never really liked any of Eastwood's "statement" films. They tend to hit you in the head with their messages, almost in a cartoonish way. But with Unforgiven, he was able to present his message without being too overbearing about it. Likewise there is no true "main character" - every character has a personality, and a place in the story, and their collective faults lead to tragedy, despite the portion of inherent goodness in all of them.

It's the most honest Western I''ve ever seen. Bravo.

[koinshaku]

He sure hoodwinked Gene - thankfully.

[darrylsh]

Clint just wanted to be filmed shooting Gene in the face!

[1019drummer]

One of my fav artists. Lv yr films man.

[EmpressElizabeth1920]

My grandparents took me to the drive in to see Dirty Harry, when I was 10 years old. They told me to tell my mother we went to see some Disney movies.

[PrimeTimeJokesta]

@EmpressElizabeth1920 lol, awesome!

[gorrillacolt]

@EmpressElizabeth1920 Best grandparents ever!!

[EmpressElizabeth1920]

@gorrillacolt thank you

[Salguine]

@EmpressElizabeth1920 You must have felt lucky, punk.

[1968lr]

@EmpressElizabeth1920 That would've been awesome!.

[WinstonSmith6079]

@EmpressElizabeth1920 LOL your grandparents were waaay cool hehehehe :D hehehe

[BloodTar]

It's gonna be a sad day when Clint leaves us. I love all of his film work.

[Saintoftaint83]

@xxowendanxx 3 years is a long time. Maybe at that time he was just burnt out on doing violent movies. It happens people get burnt out.

[lepmotors]

Ive seen this movie many times ..Its as good today as the first time I viewed this classic flim

[ElephantRage]

helluva movie

[WiltatKansas]

legend

[ronasheton]

I don't perceive Unforgiven as a straightforward anti-violence movie. Only a cautionary tale against cheap idealisation of violence, which is a much more interesting point. Will Munny just had to go violent on the lawmen at the end, but the movie stays away from giving the impression that killing a man by surprise while he's taking a crap is an act of grandeur to be recorded in history.

[XxowendanxX]

@ronasheton LOL Gene Hackman is full of crap if he said he didn't want to do any more violent movies, three years after doing "Unforgiven", he was gratuitously blasting holes in people in another western, "The Quick And The Dead"...

[dbs19851985]

@ronasheton Couldn't agree with you more.

[porkpieaml]

@ronasheton This is a revenge film. Plain and simple. Revenge for the prostitue and revenge for Nate. The two issues had two seperate enemies and would have cut in to the run time if we were left only with the toilet murder.

[CHANNELOMD]

@ronasheton well put

[nedalnekbrad]

@ronasheton yep . I noticed most great directors are awful at explaining things . They have a knack for knowing if a scene works or not but they're not very good at theory . They just do it . Even worse Clint eastwood if he's not telling some BS for the interview he has a blatant misunderstanding of violence in movies . Truffaut said it better : there's no such thing as anti war movie . It always look cool on screen . The final scene in Unforgiven ? probably one of the best BMF scene ever .

[squamish4244]

@ronasheton Another point the movie makes is that these gunfighters were not "nice" people in real life - a lot of them were assholes who killed for the hell of it as much as anything else.

[kingslegion1]

as usual clint is full of shit// speak against violence and be completley violent,, he is just like the faggot by the name of cuise

[darrylsh]

@kingslegion1 FAIL

[nomadthebiker]

@DrNDawg But its his opinion nevertheless.. We all have an opinion to be expressed.. Mine is that Eastwood has seldom got it wrong and the Unfrgiven has to be one of the all time great westerns

[keendriver2753]

@kingslegion1 Just curious, is it painful to walk around that shit-all stupid?

[sportandmovies]

he was not in it tho

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