Ongolo predecessor?

[FeydTaylor]

@NeoBaku I am sorry but you are wrong. what you saw was N'golo the parent system of capoeira. capoeira was made in Brazil to escape slavery. I have trained capoeira for 7 years now. my mestre who told me the history has trained for 26 years. and his Mestre who I have met has trained for 50 years. so I am sorry but you are %100 wrong about capoeira not coming from brazil. you may have witnessed N'golo but that does not qualify you to say you know the history of capoeira. no hard feelings. =D

[dderudito]

@FeydTaylor I'm agree!

There is a relationship between capoeira and some africa cultures, but not with bushmen's culture. Anyway, the capoeira's game emerge in Brazil, most probably, in quilombos (runaway slave settlement). Notwithstading, there are many who say capoeira was made in senzala (house or huts, where slaves were put in).

[Alessandrobrs]

(CAPOEIRA Maculelê)is a dance that tells the story of the enslaved Africans who worked the sugarcane plantations in Brasil. The sugar cane was cut with machetes, and in the Maculele dance, dancers click machete blades rhythmically within the dance. Sometimes sticks are used instead of machete blades, however it is understood the sticks symbolize the machetes used to cut the sugarcane in the time of slavery.

[Alessandrobrs]

STYLES OF CAPOEIRA

Capoeira Angola is considered to be the more dance-like form of capoeira[citation needed] and is often characterized by deeply held traditions, sneakier movements and with the players playing their games in closer proximity to each other than in regional or contemporanea

[Alessandrobrs]

(CAPOEIRA Regional) is the more common form of Capoeira, it is practiced much more widely in Brazil. Capoeira Regional was developed by Reis Machado (Mestre Bimba) to make capoeira more effective and bring it closer to its fighting origins, and less associated with the criminal elements of Brazil.

[Alessandrobrs]

(CAPOEIRAContemporânea) is a term for groups that train multiple styles of capoeira simultaneously. Very often students of Capoeira Contemporânea train elements of Regional and Angola as well as newer movements that would not fall under either of those styles.

[Alessandrobrs]

(CAPOEIRA SAMBA DE RODA)

Performed by many capoeira groups, samba de roda is a traditional Afro-Brazilian dance & musical form that has been associated with capoeira for many years. The orchestra is composed by pandeiro (tambourine), atabaque (drum), berimbau-viola (berimbau with the smallest cabaça and the highest pitch), chocalho (rattle - a percussion instrument), accompanied by singing and clapping. Samba de roda is considered the primitive form of modern Samba.

[neuroanimal]

Capoiera isn't one. For every person it is something else, because every person is different. For me Capoeira isn't word "Capoeira", which probably has Tupian origin. Capoeira is art of movement, game, mandinga, music. It's fragment of culture. In meaning of movement, we can easly find some similar movements in other martial arts, games and dances. But in Capoeira exists characteristic movements, which are almost only in it and in South-West African forms. Are also other evidences in archives !

[Sobekkha]

In Portuguese, Capoeira also literally translates to poultry or pen/hennery. Your definition is very limited because some of the worlds leading historians researching Capoeira origin has traced it to Africa, with little adaptations from the indigenous people of Brazil. That's not to say they didn't contribute because they did, but until you do the research and stop making assumptions you will not make a valid argument. Find out more and go to: angoleiro.wordpress. com/category/african-roots/

[Alessandrobrs]

My friend, Capoeira is a culmination of customs from different enslaved African cultures and social influences in Brazil of the time. The game as we know it never existed in Africa until more recent times.

I attended an anthropology lecture on the topic once.

[aguiladplata]

I agree with you Alessandra, how sad to see the "Angoleiros" burying their true history for the sake of legend. Because claiming Capoeira as sincretic and the result of an african sincretism, is no prejudice to the arican roots of the art. As a capoerista i´m even more proud of it´s history of survival through sincretism, just as candomblé or Jazz than claiming some "racial" purity, that even sounds a little facist. Peace my angoleiros friends.

[MokamboFilho]

THATS TRUE!

[NeoBaku]

@Alessandrobrs Strange assertion, seeing that I have personally witnessed several Capoeira Fights on the African continent and in other parts of the world as well. Most recently I was invited to a game of Bassula in E. Kongo. It was Capoeira and had no Brazilian influences whatsoever. Most of the practitioners had never heard of Brazil.

[Alessandrobrs]

The origin of the word "capoeira" is a word from Tupi language (native brazilian indians), which means vegetation that grows after putting a forest down.

[jmckaskle]

That is true for the use of capoeira in agriculture, but it other etymologies are just as valid.

[neuroanimal]

You are partially right. Tupi-Guaraní cluster have two main subclusters: Tupi and Guaraní. "Dry scrubland, forest, bush, vegetation, grass, plant" - may be: "kaapĩ" or "kaá" (in Tupi languages), "kapi" (in Guaraní languages). "Marker of past tense" is "puéra"; "old, dead, bad" is "ûera" (in Tupi languages). Origin of Portuguese word "capoeira" may be Tupian "kaapĩ+ûera" (dead bush) or it's counterpart in Guaraní languages, or Tupian "kaá+puéra" (old forest).

[neuroanimal]

Phrase similar to your "vegetation that grows after putting a forest down" exists in Polish books: "kapoeira despite lack of bigger trees is pygmy forest with entangled high grass, bush, shrub" ("Rio de Oro" Arkady Fiedler), "Kapueira - young small forest regrowing in place of old forest, which was put down. Kapueiras are fired up from time to time, because of ashes helping in make fertile ground for fresh sow" ("Tętniący step" Bolesław Mrówczyński).

[Alessandrobrs]

The "Angola" Style is a cultural root tribute - not a proof that they played it.CAPOEIRA is from Brazil, created by african slaves.

[jmckaskle]

It was created by African slaves who carried with them the above tradition. More movements were added to it, the music changed, and the name changed.

[jmckaskle]

This Youtube video shows you this group performing a tradition that is known to be the predecessor to Capoeira. Albano Neves e Souza published drawings of the techniques establishing the first clear link. Research, including that above, that of Dr. TJ Desch Obi, and others have established the African Origins as a fact.

[jmckaskle]

I would also like to point out that Regional is no longer a valid term as the only authentically Regional School of Capoeira is run by Bimba's son, Nenel. All other Regional Schools are Capoeira Contemporanea, offshoots of Senzala or the Senzala style and is markedly different. Regional de M. Bimba is very close to Capoeira Angola.