Farms of the Future

[CR1MS0N1986]

Down with Monsanto's seeds of evil. Up with Aquaphonic!

[nansir]

'Nobody works for free, Do You?' Yes I do actually and so does a very large portion of the population, we are very dependent on volunteerism. No-one is asking anyone to give anything up. We simply make a decision to stop using money and use and distribute the world's plentiful rescources fairly. Watch Zeitgeist Moving Forward 2011.

[madelainejulien]

all against Monsanto!

[angurisloud]

"Simple "BUT" Expensive".... yeah, it's going to be hugely expensive- at least ten times as expensive (probably more). The structure, the building skin (a double skin at that), the building systems, just building structures like this will run $200 a sf, plus buying urban land at $50 to $100 sf compared to what good farm land in the boons. Now add the cost of operating the place to what it costs to plant in a field w/ drip irrigation - $175 Head of lettuce anyone?

[arturdrozdz297374]

so where are you gonna get all the water to grow all thouse plants

[dummie84]

spunds like wiley coyoty explaning a elaborate monstrosity. this guy smokes to much weed.

[Ruede27]

It's not one mans solution, you discredit so many people by saying one man.

[PinkProgram]

Downward is also a viable direction with fiber-optic solar collection tubes.

[Josephjoel3]

You guys, my plan is to start simple. I will start in a neighborhood renting out houses or old buildings and turning them into hydroponic factories or farms. After that I will distribute the food to the local residents of that neighborhood educating them on the benefits of hydroponics, science and technology. Then will there will be a mass collectivization where the residents and I will green the neighborhood growing food all along the streets. A template of sustainability. Fix the World!

[Dafariii]

His ideas are a bit dated. Rooftop farming is a lot more viable since you don't need a building that takes up space and that would require a lot of resources for lighting. And you don't need much funding! Deep water culture hydropnics is a lot better for some fast crowing crops than those demonstrated. Also, burning furtaliser for energy? That is insane, it is way more valuable product. At least go with biomas gas generation for sustainability and environment friendly if you must generate fuel.

[EasternMerchant]

is it possible to have a farm in something like a Uhaul trailer that I can tow around since I don't have a home?

[outforsushi]

You don't understand. If theres is demand for food and supply is low, prices will increase thus rationing demand automatically, then this type of farming will automatically become economical to invest in. This is how the market work

[10101011110001111010]

7.000.000.000 people!

[curingaging00]

We will most likely start with small scale to test out, then move on to renovate old abandoned buildings.

[LenoraForest]

Is a separate building necessary? Is it possible to build green houses on top of the existing buildings?

Perhaps if a small prototype were successful the funding would show up for something larger scale.

[curingaging00]

@LenoraForest Hmm good idea. It might also be cheaper to build greenhouses on top of existing buildings too.

[eretzsus]

PVC plastic tubing is a main cause of liver cancer. It is not friendly to human life.

Would have to find a vegetable oil based plastic that is biodegradable.

Environmental toxins are so aggressive these days that you should boost your glutathione levels with Milk thistle therapy on a daily basis.

[210482fmj]

i would like to know if commercial hydroponic food is flushed on pure water a few days before harvest. This is essential in hydro food as it can taste very bitter and it will actually taste of fertilizer. I bet most supermarkets would not give a dam if they sold hydro food that wasn't flushed before harvest

[VtBudgies]

So the people that have money for this don't want to make one but farmers would make more than they do currently! Ill tell you I would do it in an instant IF I HAD A MILLION DOLLARS SO YAH THEY DON'T POP UP LIKE YOU ARE CLAIMING THEY WOULS

[VtBudgies]

Dry chalice YOU IDIOT people are skeptical I have a hydroponics system already that is in a green house and I'll tell you it increased my tomatoes by 25 AND IF I HAD ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS I WOULD MAKE MILLIONS! it WOULD make millions after costs you aren't making as much as a office building s

[drychalice]

Another liberal professer, that never owned a buisness.

If the system could earn money, it would not need funding.

It would grow overnight by itself.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

An educated citizen, is a democrats worst nightmare.

[homersayre]

When we evolve beyond money who gets to decide who gets what resources?

[MrBowen1113]

2:24 epic face

[MrBowen1113]

awesome !

[congalala6777]

i love this idea

[nansir]

Cost would not be an issue if we evoloved beyond money. If we care about the envirionment and the future of humanity we have to do that. The Venus Project has some good ideas.

[18rubiks]

@nansir we need money and economy though, without it, how would we ever control robbery? if everything was free, people would just go in and grab a bunch of stuff, and if everything's free, then nobody would work, what would be the point.

[nansir]

@18rubiks Please visit the Venus project website and google Zeitgeist Moving Forward 2011, a very informative film, if a little long but it does explain things very clearly.

[18rubiks]

@nansir i'm just saying that a "resource based economy" where everything is just freely given, wouldn't work unless every single person only took what they needed. if the world right now(everybody heard that everything was suddenly free) it would be chaos. i gaurantee that every single store in the u.s. would be empty within one day.

[nansir]

@18rubiks Well you'd have to have a transition period. 

[18rubiks]

@nansir do you even know what the real world is like. people are alot more "evil" than what you see on the internet, and i personally don't think that a "everything is free for the taking" system would work. What we'd need in order for that to happen would be a change in human intentions

[Lakopa8]

@18rubiks That's what the Venus Project entails. My grandparents and their peers all tend to hoard things to a degree that seems extreme to me, someone who doesn't have to deal with depravity very often. People who grew up in depravity always tell me "greed is human nature," and I say no, because I'm not greedy. My friends are not greedy, and if we were all given access to as much as we needed, greed would disappear. Greed is a response to depravity, so if we remove depravity, greed will follow.

[elgostine]

@Lakopa8 yet we have enough food grown to feed everyone yet theres still hunger.

theres also other factors like humans of neighbouring tribes who hate each other for and have done so for centuries. the earth is a swirling ball of chaos at the best of tims,

history has alot to do with it. too much bad blood too much tribalism and posturing thats not likely to go away quickly.

[elgostine]

@Lakopa8 though itsd true, we horde things because of the fear one day we will go without and we want a backup. thats almost hardwired into our system.

if i knew i has unlimited access to linen or wood or metal for swords i wouldnt grab a whole hoard of stuff every so often.

[elgostine]

@nansir i dont know about the vens project, part bu alot of the rest of zeitgeist is sadly misinformed, the astrological part in praticular as well as the one which is a blatent conspirac theory.

[astrialkil]

@nansir There will always be cost ! Resource cost is still cost. Nobody works for free, Do You? Rare materials will always be Rare as they are hard to find or hard to process ! How are you going to get people to work for free? And how are you going to get the poor to give up there resources? If the poor wont then the rich wont. Are you going to kill the rich and take the resources? This happened in the Congo and it didn't work ! People still are starving.

[16emmi]

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[etraderx11]

This is a doom's project - there is no way you can construct a multilevel building of a self-sustainable farm. Solar power alone alone is not enough to provide enough light to every level. And one seed of avocado is not enough to produce a tree with even one fruit, yet alone several. So-o-o... you will need CHEAP energy and CHEAP nutrients supplies which is exactly what current farms provide with free sun and cheap dirt. The only way to solve this problem is to REDUCE HUMAN POPULATION! PERIOD!!!

[rabiesman888]

@etraderx11 pastward thinking

[etraderx11]

@rabiesman888 Why don't we just eat the whole planet with all the natural resources it has been giving us for ages, that way we'll have no place left to live on and all the billions of people will be reduced to a slow and painful death of starvation. It is more forward type thinking if you consider the reality of today's world where most countries already suffer from starvation to a large degree, where a lot of the resources have been used up and nevertheless the population continues to grow.

[rabiesman888]

@etraderx11 lol i admire your cynicism

[etraderx11]

@rabiesman888 ...I am sure you do, just as a lot of other spoiled products (people) of modern western society who think they're entitled to all of the resources they have become so used to that it's all being taken for granted. Mother nature will be the last to LOL!

[petrus4]

@etraderx11 probably the single main definition of science, is to actually try something out before you dismiss it out of hand. I'm going to take a wild stab here, and guess that you haven't done that. In other words, your opinion doesn't amount to more than that of a random armchair hater on the Internet.

[etraderx11]

@petrus4 Of course I tried it - I have built an entire city with a bunch of glass buildings - they all collapsed the next day - oh well, maybe we should throw few more BILLIONS of dollars to give it another shot? Let me know if you want to participate - I will provide you with an account number to wire the money to LOL!

[petrus4]

@etraderx11 watch?v=4NwouN_KigY

[etraderx11]

@petrus4 LOL!!!! Are you trying to say I am a hater? The hell I am - I HATE YOU!!! LOL!!!

[jspecaspec23]

I was a tower climber here in Tx 5 stories is roughly 60 feet if you take the normal 10 ft per floor. Thats really not that tall so a water tank gravity fed is the most cost efficient option and a bio diesel water pump. I will help make this happen some how.

[jspecaspec23]

its not an engineering problem at all. You just need a water tower taller than the building and 5 stories is nothing. The gravity would feed the building and because it would not need to be large in size it would make draining the nutrients easy and replacing easy. Make it a 5 story building with a small storage tank on top that a water pump can feed the water back into. Bio Diesel water pump

[miken777]

@jspecaspec23 dude, I thought of a sustainable way to do the buildings. bottom 5 floors are farm, top 5 to 10 floors are condos and the rent is paid with 10 hrs a week of working on farm, produce receipts go to paying for the building.

[petrus4]

@miken777 Exactly. If we start building these things in cities, we can at least partly employ homeless people to run them, and then they can live onsite. The possible number of ways that these farms can help us socially and ecologically, is limitless.

[TinyBlueCage]

THE VENUS PROJECT

[IHighLikePlane]

If we have the the materials, the tools, and the knowledge to build these in every city on the planet, why THE F*** don't we?

Oh wait, we don't haven enough money.

Hmm..isn't money just a game we play with peices of paper to make trading easier?

If letting peices of paper rule our lives is causing 1 child to die every 5 seconds from starvation, then shouldn't we stop playing the game?

The solutions have been here all along.

/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

[dsac6007]

what about the crops that need a full day of sun. Most of those crops are our stables.

[imikewillrockyou]

Not a bad idea and It certainly would work, growing in a greenhouse is nothing new. And there are some very real advantages to growing this way. It's just a matter of it being more cost effective than traditional farming. So I'm skeptical this can ever replace traditional farming, except for things like herbs, spices and maybe things like tomatoes and peppers to a smaller degree. It's hard to beat a giant tractor that can plow and plant thousands of acres of food in a short period of time.

[1982FMJ]

never foliar feed anything you intend to eat. foliar feed is for flowers and non edible plants. DO you think these supermarkets really give a shit if they feed you herbs that are foliar fed to ease setup costs for them.

[SniperViper1000]

@1982FMJ Why wouldn't they? If they didn't they'd lose money to profits and get a bad repuation. KA-DUHHHH!!!!

[Iamthenoi]

Hey. Hope the maker of this vid gets this - and maybe even can contact these guys-- and all become aware of thevenusprojectd0tc()m. These ideas would be given full resources necessary to feed the world. Don't let money hold back these visions. Money is pointless and too finite - and must remain so to keep purchasing power. No money, just give the resources to the best idea, which all people work towards without ego and competition. If scientists were politicians, this would be a reality.

[lslavychecker]

FARMING HAS CHANGED A LOT....TRANSPORT COST...

[lslavychecker]

Farming has change a lot....

[lslavychecker]

FARMING.....

[lslavychecker]

That will be farming.....

[TheUnderdarkDruid]

Why is this a costly logistical problem? LOL! Somebody should tell these guys about elevated water towers and aeroponics, or even fogponics.

[ku42]

wtf

[davenetdog]

BUNK!  Profit guides the growth.

Try tapping into the porno industry to get the money!

[monteros]

Great video.  I would like to see more.