Roots of Conflict in the Middle East

[EnterTheTruth]

wow, Nial Ferguson was actually un biased....im shocked

[happinesson]

both of them have a point!

[FREEMAN8522]

to hide the trueth , these blood sucker Amircan and Isrealies call it the clash of civilization..

[newalbion2012]

@FREEMAN8522 And what is the truth? Zionist conspiracy perhaps? :)

[sokolel]

The biggest flaw of the middle east is cultural, and its medieval attachment to islam. Muslims must begin to look to their faults, not others, to go forward.

[bozzeed]

@sokolel what was the muslims fault? and what is the way to go forward?

[sokolel]

@bozzeed

If muslims and aljazeera continue to go forward with demagogy and religion, instead of reality and science the world will not find peace.

[bozzeed]

@sokolel what is the reality and science that should be forward then?

[Biogem369]

West on your ass has taught the Arabs to fight.

[TheTruth8018]

That man shud the fuck up about the ottomon empire, muslim countries had some of its best times under the caplihate of the ottomon empire, what has democracy and secularism actually acheived in the muslim world, ill tell you nothing

[DADODAMIR]

Empty and stupid talk! Both of them have no idea or even basic understanding what is going on in the Middle East, they are so shalow :/

[KOGR11]

the point made on 3:00 is very well made.

[8legsFreak]

The conflict stems from the enviroment: hot ,dry,resource poor climate encourages competition and barbaric mentality (killing and taking other peoples stuff), while cold, wet, energy poor climate encourages cooperation and trade (helping others survive, so they help you next time).

This is why north cultures are usually calm , colected and rational, and cultures near and below The Tropic of Cancer are violent, brutal and hotblooded.

[ahriman87]

the crimes of the capitalist will one day hunt them

[RazorCell7]

I like the last part cause it's soo freaking TRUE~!

[davidshaz20000]

When White men domination of world will End then End of Wars will come for sure

[talelendil]

you are dreaming.

[illusionist11]

What an inane blanket statement to conclude that "White Men" domination eradication will end the wars. This is an utterly feeble minded way of analyzing world conflict. By the way, have you heard about Islamic Imperialism ideolodies embedded in the quran? You are completely possesed by ignorance regarding the deep issues surrounding the middle east and western conflict.

[crrrlol]

excellent video. stresses the importance of history and not just taking Middle East for granted.

[futurahi]

I like they way the both avoid actually telling the real cause of the conflict and the sectarian violence. Constant western interference destablising the countries, placing dictators in power that oppress the population and cause revolutions that create violence in the unnatural power vacuum left behind.

[futurahi]

This has been going on now for nearly a 100 years and only looks to get worse. USA and ISREAL still wont give the palestinians there own state ( a fair one that is equal to both the palestinians and the Zionist ).

[futurahi]

IRAQ has been totally destroyed by 2 US wars and scansions that were considered by the UN to be cenocidal. Iran is still pissed off about the dictator/Revoultions and that the USA asked saddam to attack and invade IRAN. Any country in the Middle East that wants independent sovereignty is not tolerated by the west at all.

[futurahi]

Look at all the other countries that we fucked up like Lybia, Arabia and Palestine (by the british), Syria and Algeria (by the French) Egypt, Iraq, Iran, ( the USA & Britain ) Look what Britain/USA and Isreal have done to Lebanon.

[futurahi]

There words they are looking for to describe the problems are:

1Western Imperialism

2Massive greed to control 50% of the worlds OIL and GAS resources

3. RACISM, yes this is true, if they white skinned christains/atheist that spoke english would we be doing what we are doing? NO I THINK NOT.

[artbiz45]

@futurahi Then roots of these problem must be removed to have a peaceful world

[uveronika]

@futurahi

Did you forget what Palestinian and now Iran, Syria and Hezbollah have done to Christian Lebanon. Lebanon was very prosperous country till Palestinians that were kicked out from Jordan did not destroyed the country.

[betakappa19]

@futurahi Actually, the French made Lebanon a much better place. The Syrians, on the other hand, really screwed Lebanon by allowing the rise and continued arming of terrorist groups like Hezbollah.

[theshadowbehindme]

you really need to look this up on wiki ''United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine''

[johnnyoregon]

great introspective.

[Rickdeckard2020]

the Ottoman Empire was called the Ottoman Empire back in WW1, which the British and French have carved up (with little regard for the population) into the various countries we know today, most of which were instated with a puppet ruler, even in regions where such ruler had no cultural basis in their form. Churchill exterminated villages men women and children with chemical weapons(or by droping bombs), they didnt give a crap about the population. Hope this answers your question

cheers

[Jizuschrist]

The ottoman empires collaspe came from within and without, Empires grow old and die like all things.

The young turk revolution radically changed the political system of the empire,Making it more centralized ,liberal and Turk focused.The Istanbul regime became more estranged from its none Turkish subjects.

Choosing to aligning with the central powers in ww1 , Is what pitted Britain against the Ottoman empire.

[nprbiz]

When Turkey decided to stand up for it's sovereignty, as oppossed to the "Free Trade" enslavement of the then British Empire. It (Turkey) stood as the one country that would cause the rest of the middle east to possibly adopt the same process. This was in direct conflict with the British design and would not be tolerated. Self dependent country states would bring down Britains entire economic plan for the world. Just like U.S. Tariffs were used by lincoln.

[smoochym]

Funny, one of the key reasons the Ottoman empire fell was because of it's defunct economic system.

They wish they had British economics.

[Rickdeckard2020]

' I suggest you be far more cautious about the sources'

Thanks for the advice, but what are your sources to the contrary?

[moreaudan]

Afghanistan and Iraq today are occupied countries, administered by puppet governments and dotted with permanent military bases securing the energy assets. This is not a by-product of the Bush Administration's warmaking: this was its purpose.

[Irtidad]

Niall Ferguson was not bad, but I felt like the focus of the whole debate was very off. They're talking about inter-ethnic conflicts and so on, and there's really no mention of post-colonial imperialism and oil, which is perhaps the greatest incentive for conflict in the region today.

[Rickdeckard2020]

1906: Dreadnaught ship design, it also uses a 1,120 ton tank of OIL

1908: Oil discovered in Masjed Soleiman(Iran)

1912: the Turkish Petroleum Company seeks a concession from the Ottoman Emp to explore for Iraqi oil

By 1914 the German Controled Berlin-Baghdad railway is nearly completed

1914: British invade Basara(Iraq)

1918: British Invade Mosul

[Rickdeckard2020]

The Brits and Americans have invaded, bombed, instated dictators for the Oil for almost a century

Israel has bombed Brits and americans while blaming arabs to have the US bomb their enemies for decades

US/UK/Israel foster division and sectarian strife to better control (divide to conquer), before Iraq's secterian outburst, MI6 agents were caught with explosives dressed as arabs(good bet they used false flag to ignite the escalation of sectarian violence)

[GOPsithlord]

I'm right there with you, Irtdad. I could only think about the religious radicalism and the expansionist claims of Islam centuries before as a justification to jihadists today. Ferguson knows his history, but while I would argue that today's radicals are very shallow (as to the history of) their grievances, the roots of those grievances are given a justification stretching far back into Islam's history than merely the 20th century.