good sailing, but not a knockdown. i noticed helmsman responded to port on what looks like a quartering sea. these are normal conditions, but nothing unusual. bigkiwial is right, this is nothing to write home about if you're offshore. My guess is approx 30kt's gusting to 35 at most.... and following sea. ... NON-EVENT.
If the helmsman took his shades off, stopped chewing gum, and stating at the wheel he might be a little quicker to react. When sailing with waves coming from behind I'd get someone to keep an eye out the back, so I have a heads up.
Have to agree w tph777. Nothing happened. The guy slipped over ! Do you hear any crashing waves ? Any comments from the helm ? The usual story with quartering seas like they had here, is simply a wave pooping the cockpit. Everyone gets wet. Not much else happens. Per the comments about clipping on. Remember even the Vovlo boys still clip in.
This is no way a force 8-9. There is no smoke bolwing across the water, the boys can still talk easily. maybe a force 6 after the 8-9 has blown past leaving the choppy seas
ha ha yea its a strange saying. When you have force 9 winds, the surface of the water lifts into the air a few inches making a white smoke like effect blowing along the water. Sorry im not very good at expaining things
Why is the helmsman not clipped on. He has a harness on and his crew is clipped on........... but not him. He is just as likely to be knocked of his feet as anyone else on the boat.
with a lifeline on- he may get tangled up and be dragged to his death overboard,since it would almost impossible to pull against the force of the water. or crack his skull as his line tightened in the rebound effect, get tangled up and decapitated or strangled. especially if the vessel had good way on her- with out it he would be lost at sea as his boat went on without him -.but since he is not alone..i suppose his mates would perform a Williamson turn and find him- i prefer no lifeline
I have to disagree with you on this one. Having sailed in very heavy weather on many occasions I am glad to have been clipped on. With a roll over in any yacht there is always the possibility of a crew member going over the side, be they on the helm or not. Your scenario of being dragged and/or tangled in the harness must therefore apply to all crew and ergo no one should be clipped on !!.
On the boats I sail if the true wind is more than 30kts and in open water you clip on.
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Bsicayforce12- i hear what your saying..i understand that many people feel its a safety hazard not to be clipped. i never have a crew i single hand ..so just for me i choose not to wear one..i feel much more free without one and feel i would have a better chance for survival. and Ive sailed in heavy weather also
-although do prefer a small multi-hull over large mono vessels. so point taken... peace all good weather! sailing brother...
Good sailing to you too and hope you have a great season on the water.
Regards
biscayforce12
ps the You Tube name gives away some of the weather I have been in. Biscay, Force 12 (up to 97kts) and 18m seas. I hope you never get to see this sort of weather other than on some ones You Tube video.
biscayeforce12--- i know it may sound weird but the worse the weather- the more i seem to thrive and the more alive i feel..i hope someday to sail through a force 12..and live through it....what is life- without risk?..no life at all... if i don't survive- i died doing what i love...
hope I do never come across people like you on the water and I also hope I never have to rescue any childish person commiting suicide your way. Think over your position!
When you are going downwind with a big following sea your steering gets really light (no resistance round the rudder) thats why he's swingin the wheel all over the place. You can see he's not lined up properly on the last wave and it's made the boat round up
On the tea clippers the helmsman was prevented from looking astern for good reason. Capt Voss said that running off in such seas is dangerous because the boat is sucked down on the approach of a wave, preventing it being steered.
Not so in the modern yacht. Having sailed over 100,000 miles now I can tell you that looking behind has saved me on many many occasions. And the modern yacht has a big enough rudder to cope with almost any see unless, like this one, the helm steers the wrong way at the very moment he is hit by a breaking wave that he didn't see because he didn't look behind.
Knockdown - nope..! Big seas...? Possibly 15 foot or so so good helming apart from not lookmi9ng to see what the hell is going on behind you...! But if the Skipper was that concerned, then he would have the companionway hatch closed and washboards in as well - looks a bit bravado when safety issues exist...!
My wife and I just crewed a delivery to St. Martin via Bermuda. I just posted some footage of the trip, and the comment Video never does justice is right on. Nice Driving in what looks to be 15-20' seas.
wow i was going to say nice but NAHHHHHH, that took so friken long to get to a tiny knockdown, i have seen better in a river with FARR 40's haha man waste of time
Err knock-down? Where exactly. The friggin boat was completely under control and clearly not under a lot of canvas.
The cameraman just fell over on a broach - not a knockdown. There is a difference - not that either is a big deal worthy of a you tube link unless it happens to be in a big sea..
then the wave passes under the helm it creates oposite water flow and ruder is acting to oposite side, dont steer a lot at this moment, and make mainsail smaler, good winds brothers
That wasn't a knock down. More of a little wave induced broach. You can see the culprit wave just before the guy with the camera starts thinking about his own safety. Nice video, shame the sound can't be better.
It looks as if the boat is going a little too fast. There is a safe limit to the weather for down wind sailing. When the wave passes the rudder action is reversed due to the water flowing forward. Also, the big wheel seems very low geared and I think a tiller is more easy for a smallish vessel. A very nice video.
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dale3858 9 months ago 4
@dale3858 try the lower vid quality and it plays
nickolastd21 5 months ago
Psssst! Hey you guys,,, a broach doesn't necessarily mean a knockdown.
Jackle61 1 year ago
Non-event...but at least they had pfd's and harnesses clipped in...
44samoht 1 year ago
Handicam pwnage. I think he just stalled the rudder in a following sea, didn't seem like a full broach. It was tending towards that!
ioscope 1 year ago
good sailing, but not a knockdown. i noticed helmsman responded to port on what looks like a quartering sea. these are normal conditions, but nothing unusual. bigkiwial is right, this is nothing to write home about if you're offshore. My guess is approx 30kt's gusting to 35 at most.... and following sea. ... NON-EVENT.
isplaidin 1 year ago
yea, this is just sailing in high swells and heavy weather. good stuff, but no knockdown.
cjschlumpf 2 years ago
Knock down or shit himself?? No mast or boom in the water....go back to the swimming pool with ya..
mooncoin2 2 years ago
Yacht knockdown or..camera man knockdown???:)
Pawel66kr 2 years ago
just change the title of the video and my rating goes way up.
Naliano 2 years ago
The camera man got knocked down not the boat. What idiots... When the mast is in the water, thats a knockdown. Been there, done that> Bristol 26
wildwillys47 2 years ago
That was a long way to nothing much.
vidguy007 2 years ago
If the helmsman took his shades off, stopped chewing gum, and stating at the wheel he might be a little quicker to react. When sailing with waves coming from behind I'd get someone to keep an eye out the back, so I have a heads up.
m1leswilliams 2 years ago 3
Accidental jibe . Wave has hit the stern and he hasnt been quickenough to react . Always harder on graders than planing boats to react too!
zacster007 2 years ago
wow thats weak
CFBmotor 2 years ago
Force 8-9, what a load of crap, I hope you never see a real blow.
bigkiwial 2 years ago
What's the big deal about??? Just regular sailing. No way this is force 8-9 winds.
scubadvd 2 years ago
You'd better taken sunglasse off and your eyes in the water instead bloody compass. And do not stir the ocean with the rudder blade.
speedsail11 2 years ago
haha touche, totally agree
fanatic278 2 years ago
how bigga bilge pump on a boat like this have ? how many GPH? several pumps strategiccly placed thruout the hull?
pudd750 2 years ago
It is a 'cameraman kockdown'!!
Dangorous this drinking and crewing.:)
Mac45085 2 years ago 2
Have to agree w tph777. Nothing happened. The guy slipped over ! Do you hear any crashing waves ? Any comments from the helm ? The usual story with quartering seas like they had here, is simply a wave pooping the cockpit. Everyone gets wet. Not much else happens. Per the comments about clipping on. Remember even the Vovlo boys still clip in.
badbetty666 2 years ago
This is no way a force 8-9. There is no smoke bolwing across the water, the boys can still talk easily. maybe a force 6 after the 8-9 has blown past leaving the choppy seas
alistairarthur 2 years ago
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how would smoke be blowing across the water. there would have to be a fire
iwuvwoo234 2 years ago
ha ha yea its a strange saying. When you have force 9 winds, the surface of the water lifts into the air a few inches making a white smoke like effect blowing along the water. Sorry im not very good at expaining things
alistairarthur 2 years ago 2
He means mist.
dotZodiac 2 years ago
The camera guy just lost his balance... no big woop, just another day sailing in semi-stormy weather.
tph777 2 years ago 2
Good explanation for your 'smoke' comment. It is an unreal thing to behold when it happens. :-)
nevsky1961 2 years ago
i would be shiting myself
PivotmasterJNR 2 years ago
Why is the helmsman not clipped on. He has a harness on and his crew is clipped on........... but not him. He is just as likely to be knocked of his feet as anyone else on the boat.
biscayforce12 2 years ago
with a lifeline on- he may get tangled up and be dragged to his death overboard,since it would almost impossible to pull against the force of the water. or crack his skull as his line tightened in the rebound effect, get tangled up and decapitated or strangled. especially if the vessel had good way on her- with out it he would be lost at sea as his boat went on without him -.but since he is not alone..i suppose his mates would perform a Williamson turn and find him- i prefer no lifeline
porpoisefathom 2 years ago
Dear porpoisefathom
I have to disagree with you on this one. Having sailed in very heavy weather on many occasions I am glad to have been clipped on. With a roll over in any yacht there is always the possibility of a crew member going over the side, be they on the helm or not. Your scenario of being dragged and/or tangled in the harness must therefore apply to all crew and ergo no one should be clipped on !!.
On the boats I sail if the true wind is more than 30kts and in open water you clip on.
biscayforce12 2 years ago
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Bsicayforce12- i hear what your saying..i understand that many people feel its a safety hazard not to be clipped. i never have a crew i single hand ..so just for me i choose not to wear one..i feel much more free without one and feel i would have a better chance for survival. and Ive sailed in heavy weather also
-although do prefer a small multi-hull over large mono vessels. so point taken... peace all good weather! sailing brother...
porpoisefathom 2 years ago
porpoisefathom
Good sailing to you too and hope you have a great season on the water.
Regards
biscayforce12
ps the You Tube name gives away some of the weather I have been in. Biscay, Force 12 (up to 97kts) and 18m seas. I hope you never get to see this sort of weather other than on some ones You Tube video.
But good sailing to you anyway.
biscayforce12 2 years ago
biscayeforce12--- i know it may sound weird but the worse the weather- the more i seem to thrive and the more alive i feel..i hope someday to sail through a force 12..and live through it....what is life- without risk?..no life at all... if i don't survive- i died doing what i love...
peace brother...
porpoisefathom 2 years ago
hope I do never come across people like you on the water and I also hope I never have to rescue any childish person commiting suicide your way. Think over your position!
speedsail11 2 years ago
When you are going downwind with a big following sea your steering gets really light (no resistance round the rudder) thats why he's swingin the wheel all over the place. You can see he's not lined up properly on the last wave and it's made the boat round up
injabulo 2 years ago
looking behind you looked awesome scary
jswatchnvids 2 years ago
nice sailing lmao look behind u bcause the sea was abit rough
icomunot 3 years ago
the boat was broaching t'was not a knockdown
vincent7520 3 years ago 2
must have been a confused sea..to me it looked like a following sea and not a broach ..maybe a rogue wave even...
porpoisefathom 2 years ago
This was caused by the helm. Only a rank novice would move a wheel is such a manner. The damn fool never should have been at the helm in those seas
olegunny000 3 years ago
You could tell because the idiot was wearing dark sunglasses in a gale LOL...Ship of Fools!!! :-)
Ramblin66man 2 years ago
wow what happened after looks nasty
big2daddy59 3 years ago
On the tea clippers the helmsman was prevented from looking astern for good reason. Capt Voss said that running off in such seas is dangerous because the boat is sucked down on the approach of a wave, preventing it being steered.
msf60khz 3 years ago
Not so in the modern yacht. Having sailed over 100,000 miles now I can tell you that looking behind has saved me on many many occasions. And the modern yacht has a big enough rudder to cope with almost any see unless, like this one, the helm steers the wrong way at the very moment he is hit by a breaking wave that he didn't see because he didn't look behind.
biscayforce12 2 years ago
furu bi, ne pa okol gledu =(
mzmdbt 3 years ago
Knockdown - nope..! Big seas...? Possibly 15 foot or so so good helming apart from not lookmi9ng to see what the hell is going on behind you...! But if the Skipper was that concerned, then he would have the companionway hatch closed and washboards in as well - looks a bit bravado when safety issues exist...!
VATUKF4 3 years ago
I agree 100%
vincent7520 2 years ago
My wife and I just crewed a delivery to St. Martin via Bermuda. I just posted some footage of the trip, and the comment Video never does justice is right on. Nice Driving in what looks to be 15-20' seas.
torgersende 3 years ago
wow i was going to say nice but NAHHHHHH, that took so friken long to get to a tiny knockdown, i have seen better in a river with FARR 40's haha man waste of time
oisinrocks 3 years ago
Lol! Didn't keep the stern into the wave on that one then. Would have been a good surf too.
Video never does justice to the size of the sea. So it's very hard to tell.
Kaptainrdean 3 years ago 3
knockdown? crap...the photog fell down the companionway hatch,
jcdevlin63 3 years ago
Err knock-down? Where exactly. The friggin boat was completely under control and clearly not under a lot of canvas.
The cameraman just fell over on a broach - not a knockdown. There is a difference - not that either is a big deal worthy of a you tube link unless it happens to be in a big sea..
Big friggin' deal.
birxy 3 years ago 3
Wow that was a big knockdown.I remember my first one when i was sailing a sonata with my dad with the spinnaker up.Nasty...
DisruptiveMoose 3 years ago
Hey helmsman...try looking over your shoulder once in a while...
It's been about ten years since I've been out like that, I need to get back to it. Good stuff.
e1p12007 3 years ago 2
yep ! helmsman not very good in such weather
vincent7520 2 years ago
then the wave passes under the helm it creates oposite water flow and ruder is acting to oposite side, dont steer a lot at this moment, and make mainsail smaler, good winds brothers
morewind 3 years ago 4
But to be quite honest, I do admire the cool you all had...what time of year was it?
dafringle 3 years ago
You broached.
punchpixie 3 years ago 4
where's the thrill in that??!!. get a skiff!!!!!
shift123 3 years ago
or go one better get something with 2 hulls...
BezManQatar 3 years ago
Let us hope that the helmsman's ego was knocked down as well.
philet23 3 years ago 5
Helmsman seems to be dead set on sailing his course and not paying attention to the sails or sailing the wind. Glad to see you were tied in.
Great video looks like U guys had alot of fun even though you got a little wet!
demma63 3 years ago 3
Good vid, it tells me 'Quite looking at the dials and take a look around yas!'
(not all racers forget that reefing is your friend), I think der helmsman not paying attention.
My opinion.
Ogsonofgroo 3 years ago 5
Nice video. Cheers.
TenFourOver 4 years ago
Well he should have hoisted the jib,instead he was rudder right and keel forward with a little starboard at the wrong time.
Blow boaters !
seahuntroger 4 years ago 2
Sweden Yachts are probably the most solid and best sailing yachts tese days.
regeiwgnivoh00 4 years ago
yes that maybe true. old finish swans where at the time fast and seaworthy.
johan361 3 years ago
That wasn't a knock down. More of a little wave induced broach. You can see the culprit wave just before the guy with the camera starts thinking about his own safety. Nice video, shame the sound can't be better.
Kaptainrdean 4 years ago 4
It looks as if the boat is going a little too fast. There is a safe limit to the weather for down wind sailing. When the wave passes the rudder action is reversed due to the water flowing forward. Also, the big wheel seems very low geared and I think a tiller is more easy for a smallish vessel. A very nice video.
msf60khz 4 years ago
lol gotta love swell surfing ROFL
JRC808 4 years ago
why is it the camera man goes down at the critical moment nice clip but 5 seconds short
escapetosaltspring 4 years ago
you've never dove through the companionway in an effort to preserve your life? Get outside armchair bandit.
bentshackle 3 years ago
Great video, winds were F8~9 with 6~8ft seas
Chrisdfevans 5 years ago