Stephan Hawkings, while very brilliant is making a contradiction within his statement, he says that the laws of physics pre date the creation of the universe, but the laws of physics only describe what is taking place within the created universe. he states that the laws of physics transend the universe, which is his contradiction. he also states that the universe creates itself, x creates x. but for that to work x must pre exist x to create itself, so that is contradiction #2.
@lauras1978 You are in no position to tell other people where they are at in life and why they don't believe in god or that they hate christians. You have no idea what you are talking about. Nothing happened in my life that made me not believe in god.
@lauras1978 Why do you only trust in the bible? Do you identify with more with it than Islam's faith in god? The Quran is the last testament by god to mankind, would it not be in your best interest to read it's message? Just curious.
as long as you keep it as "it is likely", we can accept it for good, which, by the way, confirms you cannot prove God does not exist, the same way I cannot prove He exists (beliefs aside). Good day.
@QueenOfLogic "science cant explain how you create something out of nothing" The only crowd that proclaims this nonsense is creationists trying to inject that evolutionists claim "something came from nothing". Science makes no such ridiculous claim. "but that means that something had to exist for those events to take place ere goes how did these things come to be" Incorrect. Just because we don't know what was before the bang (there might not have been) is no logical conclusion.
@QueenOfLogic If you are led to believe or think this is what the bang is suggesting, you need to do some more reading on the bang. It's one of the most common misconceptions of the theory. Creationists use this to distort what the bang actually suggests."things can not Just decide to be and then be, for them to have a thought means they had to exists in some form to begin with" Says who?
@QueenOfLogic What makes you think GOD (some divine being) created everything? If there was actually some sort of a "beginning", It would definetly need to start elsewhere than with an "already intelligent being". Some forms of energy had to appear from somewhere to first create that "god". Maybe it's a creation of some advanced "alien" race or whatever. I'm not saying I know things, I'm just saying that no one really knows. Science just is sceptical until it finds some proof.
science does nto have the tools necessary to answer the question "does God exist" it is a question too far out of teh reach of what science is capable of.
@lauras1978 Why do we need proof? Because the majority of us would rather know that things are true and get rid of as many false beliefs as possible rather than have faith that things are true. You and the muslim have faith that your beliefs are true. But what about other faiths who do not believe in your's and muslim's belief in god. Is their faith less credible than yours? How do you know?
@lauras1978 The use of sunsets, ultra sounds, watches and flowers are no evidence of a god or a creator. Of course you don't need explanations so you special plead in the case of god but don't use the same mentality in your everyday life. Stating "from ooze" doesn't add validity to your claim as science doesn't claim anything came from "ooze" and the belief that it does is not only arrogant but ignorant.
There was another universe before this one. And when this universe is destroyed another universe will be created. Not created by god, but by extreme relative forces. ;)
@tigersforchrist You need to accept Sheba for enternal rest of your soul. There's still time, ask for forgiveness and you shall have it. Don't let this oppotunity pass you by.
Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
@laylaycheerz please do the rest of us REAL people and the world as a whole a favor and just go kill yourself. Spreading lies like an ignorant misinformed child. Leave this world for our sake or become educated. I guarantee you haven't even fully read any of your own religion texts.
@laylaycheerz wtf are you his lawyer? You my friend is the no 1 sinner just for the words you are saying. Religious garbage have lost any sense of reality of what god is. If you believe in him just keep it to yourself.
@proudfemale Why do you need proof? I have faith and I will proclaim that faith. What you believe in is what you believe in. Think about what I said and take it for what it's worth. I am not trying to change your mind. How could we evolve from nothing? That's scientifically impossible. We go from ooze to Elvis? Now that would need an explanation.
@lauras1978 to tell you the truth, we don't every really need faith to believe in God. We can strongly infer His existence from mere observation of the natural world. Faith comes in when we are asked to believe that what he revealed in the Bible is true.
@thetheistexperience1 That's a very good point. My faith just started out as a belief in a Higher Power. Over time, I became a believer of Christ. This was not just an overnight thing. My journey to Christ started in my 7th year of believing in a Higher Power. That 7th year, I came to Christ. All of the prophesies in the Bible predicting Christ's birth, life and resurrection were fulfilled. No other figure in religious history had their life predicted like Christ.
@lauras1978 very true. It is also true that no one else claimed to be the truth, Buddha said, look to my teaching, but Christ said, "I am the way, the truth and teh light."
@thetheistexperience1 All of the prophesies except the Second Coming which is on it's way. Revelation reveals a picture of the future and it's terrifying. But those who believe will not go through it. That was promised by Christ. Christ's people will be here. I believe that He created the universe and He will ultimately destroy earth and rebuild it. I am not a science enthusiast. I am a believer in God. My life has been saved numerous times for me not to believe.
@lauras1978 people who THINK don't just 'accept' being taught a 'belief' and you show childish stupidity to ask why we need proof given the obscene human misery religion inflicts on its victims
re pregnancy...have you actually read your koran LOL
anyone with 'intellect' and who knows embryology would squirm with shame at the ERRORS OF THAT era included in the man made comic book koran
islam teaches 'a child resembles whoever discharges first' LOL
@proudfemale I am not religious so let's throw that point out the window. I have a relationship with Jesus. You can too but that's your choice. Next topic. I don't read the Koran. I read the Bible. As far as intellect is concerned? There's such a thing as being too smart for your own good. Thank God I'm not. While I respect people who practice Islam, I am a Christian and I only follow what is in the Word. Do you have more insults by the way?
@proudfemale The only reason I ask if you have more insults is I would rather take them then for you to insult somebody else. Fire away if it makes you feel better.
@proudfemale You just have an issue with Christianity and that's not my problem. Religion has nothing to do with a relationship with Jesus. What I can't stand is religion being used as a tool to control people. That's where I think you're coming from. Mind you that this has nothing to do with a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I just want to make that clear. And....yes I do care because I used to be in the mindset you're in. I can't control people and neither can you.
@lauras1978 interestingly enough, objective scientists say that there are no contradictions between the current big bang theory and the creation story of Genesis.
@proudfemale Let's think about what you just said. Who or what could have created such a detailed construction of this universe? What shreds of proof do you need? Look at a sunset. Look at an ultrasound of a pregnancy. Look at a vast ocean. That came from ooze? I am not talking about religion either. I do believe that a God created our world. I don't need an explanation. There are things in this world that are too beautiful to explain like inventions.
@thetheistexperience1 no kid, why would one with intellect/integrity want to admit to ignorance...its not me who is disillusioned, and scared silly of facts,truths,reality
Im laughing at the 'strongly infer' - HOW exactly
who would forget WHY religious leaders went to the extreme effort/trouble they did to prevent a science exhibition being showing in Kenya...some even admitted 'why' they did lol
@proudfemale Why would one with intellect want to admit ignorance? To learn. Which is the main problem with most religious people; They don't want to learn because their religions don't leave room for real knowledge. But for the rest of us THINKING apes, admitting ignorance is the fastest path to knowledge. Asking questions is the only way to get answers. Oh, and
@lauras1978: You're an idiot. Your 'relationship with Jesus' basically proves it, if your comments here weren't enough evidence.
@arethkyntaul You just don't like Christians. God loves you and I hope you find peace and happiness. By the way, I'm not religious. I love Jesus! You know NOTHING about my life. I overcame addiction, abuse and the military. I served my country and after all that, I came to Jesus Christ. I know what place you're in. Religion has NOTHING to do with Jesus. He Himself couldn't stand religion. All He wants is to know us. What you do with that is up to you.
@proudfemale first and foremost, the last leader of the Catholic Church (Pope John Paul II) affirmed that there is no reason to "fear" science, and that science and religion can indeed ceexist as means of attainin truth about reality as a whole. Second the plead to ignorance (I think that is what you are referring to) is afallacy that says, "there is no evidence to support such and such a view, therefore the opposite must be true."
@tolow16 Muslims live life just fine without the concept of Jesus. Although the Quran identifies who Jesus is and his relationship with God, Jesus is not the focal point of Islamic faith. Their claim that the Quran as the last testament of God, allows them to have the same relationship as you do with God through Mohammed, as you do as the bible claims through Jesus. Their faith is just as strong as yours.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
@Mogley52 "SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy" Source that science claims this. "That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws" Unfortunately, the supernatural has never been proven to exist, so it's irrelevant."no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing." Whose saying it did?
@Mogley52 "The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe" This statement makes absolutely no sense. "HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM" Erroneous. Atheism is the disbelief in a god or gods.
CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. Given enough time, all of the energy becomes useless and the universe cannot be sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
"Kind" is a meaningless, empty term. Kinds do not exist. There is absolutely nothing that stops small changes from accumulating into big changes over time.
>>>>How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs,
>>>>reproductive systems were still evolving?
Do you even have slightest idea about how evolution proceeds? "Still evolving"? Absolutely EVERY organ and organ system even now is "still evolving".
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
We don't have to imagine them, such fish exist even nowadays. Survival benefit is beling able to survive on water-land border like tidal region, away from water predators, and beling able to take short travels over land into next water body.
>>>creation at The Institute for Creation Research
What is the point in reading "articles" that every first year biology student can refute? All those "articles" consist of nothing else but lies, factial errors, logical fallacies, out of context quotes and other crap. Your "institute" is nit scientific, it is institute of RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST RETARDS.
Lectures created by religious fundamentalist LIARS, full of factual errors and misconceptions, are of no importance in science. There is ABSOLUTELY NO war among "evolutionists" at all.
Go to PubMed database and find me ONE article among those 300,000+ peer reviewed ones about evolution that contain anything against evolution? FIND ME ONE.
Using your retarded "common designer", please explain me the distribution patterns of ERV-s in genetic material of hominids and why the established evolutionary relationships based on those patterns happen to correspond to relationships based on totally independent and separate fields like paleontology, embryology or molecular biology.
Even a site called Talkorigins org refutes all of the idiotic retarded creationist crap "arguments" that we all have heard already billion times. Every time a biblical CRETINIST appears, it is always the same old babbling, always the same old retarded "arguments" that every biology student can refute. LMAO.
Do you really live in RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST DELUSIONAL IDIOCY that you have absolutely ANY CHANCE in debate against evolutionary biologist? Using the same old and billion times refuted creationist "arguments" that we have seen many times?
If you have anything "against" evolution then why don't you publish it in PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE in respected SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL instead of walking around and babbling your nonsense to scientifically illiterate audience?
Thanks for a good laugh though. It is always funny to see brainwashed religiotards who describe how they walk around and "give lectures" that refute all 21st century science and then ask such silly and idiotic questions like "How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving?" which show that they really have absolutely NO understanding at all about how evolution proceeds
Go back to your retarded Church of Talking Snakes and Stupidity
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.
WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, origin of life, etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
we human have a total deficiency in our knowledge at any time.cause we know more than yesterday and less than tomorrow. we obviously know really little about our being and world..how arrogant some scientist say things that they really dont know nothing about.
i beleive in god,but i won't force my beliefs on anyone.i respect hawkings opinion but i personally see science as a way to explain god's creations.anyways,whether there is a god or not is not for us to know until we die.that's the only way to be sure.
@Tomislav005 ghosts do exist,but do you really think society is gonna accept their existence?nope,they'll just keep saying "we don't know,there's no evidence". and yes our brain dies but our essence and consciousness will continue into the next reality/afterlife...that's what i believe.but no one will ever be sure because people cant come back to life after years of being dead and say "guess what,there is an afterlife"...so we just wait
I find it amusing that so many people think they can question Stephen Hawking. He is a very well educated and intelligent man. You may see him as a potentially bitter legless retard, but he knows his stuff.
If a scientific genius is unable to convince you, then it's just pointless to even try.
@CyanideAddiction123 "tell me one reasonably example..." creationists in general make claims that the majority of the scientific community do not agree with or state they are flat out wrong. They do not agree that evolution has been disproven. False claims about evolution, the big bang what they are and what they claim. I know you asked for one but here you go.
@tigersforchrist The answers you won't find in Jesus Christ. The last testament of god is the Quran. Mohammed (peace be upon him) is God's true prophet. To find the path to God's glory it can only come through Mohammed. There is still time to save yourself.
Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
I know God exists because .... wait for it ... He created peanut butter, one of my favorite foods! When I look into the eyes of my niece, , look out the window on a sunny day ... hear my nephews voice change, it's so grand and reflects back to me the granduer of God.
and in this day and age, tell me one reasonably example of how religious people do anything to screw the science comunity up? take into consideration that humanists and religious fanatics are two very different types of people not one and the same as you all think we are.
He may be brilliant, but how do you know he is right? after all he is human, and we all fuck up, we all make mistakes, but alot of us like to think that because someone as brilliant as stephen hawking could never be wrong, we will just see, I will tell you this, If I am wrong, so be it, but I would rather be proven wrong when I die, than go by some guy's opinion, because that's really all it is, and be proven wrong in that theory.
We are human, we are but a spec in the universe, why should I Believe that just because some guy says physics proves god to be pretty much useless and not real, why should I believe it? it's like saying aliens don't exist, the universe is just too big to be throwing those kinds of judgements out, the day I listen to someone say god doesn't exist is the day when I die, I would rather believe in something when I die than to be like "that's it?"
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No disrespect to the man of his mentally condition but see what happens when you commit blasphemy..but fuck that...thats all you got out of half a minute so amusing ha ha how would man truthfully know if God did or did not exist, being as our brain was developed (created by God) to hold only so much knowledge of something?? I think we as humans have reached the apex of increased knowledge throughout time..Remember keep in mind GOD works in strangely mysterious ways...GOD BLESS
@pacifistworldunity "Remember keep in mind GOD works in strangely mysterious ways.." And like all other "evidence" for god, this is still a statement from ignorance.
@pacifistworldunity and yet, Hawking had been more for the world then God did. There is no evidence to back up God. If God does exist then your "God" is an asshole. go read the Old Testament. God was a self-centered, greedy, racist, homophobic, jealous, insecure, asshole that endorsed rape, murder, kidnapping, and racism.
Explaining scientifically how the universe works is not proof it was not created. In science all we are doing is finding out how life, nature and the universe works, or how God had make it work. When we understand how the clock works does that mean it was not created. When someone learns and understands how a car works or discovers how somethiing works does that mean it was not created. When we discover how life came about, what will that prove?. Nothing.
@ZeusHelios Comparing things we know are created (the clock) doesn't answer the question of how everything came to be. If you had doubts about the clock, you could easily trace it's origin and even witness one being created. When you use the analogy that "the clock is all you know" and don't have a frame of reference to it being "created", you're back to square one pondering how it came to be. You're just rehashing the watch maker argument.
If you were in a clock and the clock was your world. You will find it appears to work without a creator. Yet not realsing it was created. My point is the clock works without appearing to need anything making it work. Because it works all by itself. The universe is like the clock It was created to tick along without appearing to need any further assistance. The power from the clock comes from man either winding it up or replacing its batteries. The universe is powered by God.
Are you fucking kidding me? How about all of the religious people here stop making fun of someone who is smarter than you'll ever hope to be and ACTUALLY try to produce some sort of evidence for once.
@Zaviex when you misrepresent the theory from the get go. The notion that it's properties have not been observed to test them is ridiculous. Creation has never been observed, yet people believe it. We've never observed earth's or Pluto's orbit around the sun, but based on the math and that the two continue to follow the laws of gravity, we confidently say that our prediction is a scientifically sound prediction.
@Zaviex You claim to know a lot about the big bang and it's flaws, but just about everything you've commented on are some of the biggest misconceptions associated with it. Your definition as to what it claims is wrong (it doesn't claim the creation of the universe) and your explanation of it's properties are incorrect. You then go on to say that it's theory is based on entropy, it's not. The theory provides perfect explanation of it's properties. Hard to accept that you understand the theory wh
Haha I love how basically everyone believes (whether you believe in his existence or not) that God is portrayed correctly by early ignorant humans thousands of years ago. Shit, even Stephen Hawking spends valuable time saying there is no God because the laws of physics work without the need of one (even though that doesn't prove fucking anything, truly) but he is right that the Biblical God does not exist, but to say there is no God (in any form, conceivable or not) is straight up stupid.
@Moooo53 many do believe exactly because they suffer from such conditions, it their "only hope" so to speak, its just that some people have the intelligence to realise and to seek the truth i guess.
@Moooo53 yea but he had all reasons to kill himself but he didn't lol now he argues with popes on the big bang theory while contradicting himself admitting God's existents to me he's a retard who was lucky enough to talk
@Moooo53 YES! because its astounding hes still alive but the thing is he doesn't because it is unnecessary to believe in god in a day and age filled with such advancements in the understanding of were we come from, how the earth came to be, nay how the cosmos came to fruition.
@Moooo53 Don't kid yourself, there are plenty of disabled people who believe in god. His reasons for being an atheist are rational, like all atheists. We don't wake up one day and say 'hey I hate god, god hasn't been good to me, i'm not going to not believe'.
It confirms that we are being visited by extraterrestrials and their hidden intentions are revealed. We are destroying our world and this has invited intervention.
We are at the point of loosing our self sufficiency and becoming enslaved by these foreign forces. We need an education on how life is like in our region of space to prepare for contact with intelligent life from the universe. This and much more is provided now in God's NEWMESSAGE(.org)
@believeordiedude It's not a lack of faith, it's a lack of belief-a rejection of claims that have not met a burden of proof. You proclaim they'll be consequences for nonbelievers. You could be held just as accountable just for what you believe in or disbelieve in. You could be wrong and the Muslim or the Hindu could be right.
If you watched that interview, in it's entirety, and deduced that Stephen Hawking actually made ANY declaration that even slightly resembled a denial or repudiation of the existence of God, you are one seriously stupid or retarded person... and if you didn't... well, then you are something much worse than that! Sorry for your lack of Faith, dude, but if you think you'll never be held accountable for trying to snuff out ANOTHER"S Faith... man, are YOU in for BIG surprise. Good luck with that :(
@007RoyalFlush wow here is someone who hasn't studied any theology at all but chooses to argue. there are hundreds of models where a God wouldn't do anything beyond create the universe or perhaps set things in motion in multiple universes.
@007RoyalFlush it simply does not do that with any definition. The big bang lies in a measure of increasing entropy that caused the matter to spread out and create the universe but that is incredibly vague and entirely unprovable and in no way disputes a god's existence
@007RoyalFlush the big bang is just as much of a "fairy tale" as any religion its a theory based on entropy which is just an extremely vague guess based on a possibility but is entirely unreliable, has no way to be examined or proven, and has major flaws. E.G IF the big bang was caused by entropy why are there any constants in this universe? That wouldn't make sense. Arguably very little is actually constant but nothing should be constant.
@Zaviex Absolute rubbish. You claim that the big bang theory is based on little truth, which we all know to be bullshit, yet religion is based on no truth whatsoever. You have no angle.
@Zaviex "its a theory based on entropy which is just an extremely vague guess based on a possibility but is entirely unreliable, has no way to be examined or proven," Clear example of you not taking the time to understand what the big bang is, how it works and what it claims.
You really live in delusion that Big Bang theory would be supported by physicists if it had "major flaws"? Do you think that world top physicists and cosmologists are idiots? Or could it be that YOUR knowledge and understanding about Big Bang is non-existing?
@Hobu123 i actually know quite a bit about the big bang and its flaws. I also am currently writing a paper about String and its relation to a "god" and why whether string is valid or invalid it proves nothing
@Hobu123 No you clearly no nothing about the big bang or the support of top physicist. Its a theory which has little proof to support it aside from entropy being measurable there is no possible experiment to test it other than to locate the center of the universee (impossible) then travel from there to the end of the universe (also impossible). Top physicist actually rather support String more often and neither theory proves or disproves the existence of god.
String theory and Big Bang theory are about different things. Big Bang is about first moments of the Universe, string theory is about what was before universe. Also, there is no "center if the Universe" because Big Bang doesn't mean that everything started to fly apart from some center. Big Bang means that SPACETIME ITSELF is expanding, not that things are "flying away" from center.
Also it is obvious that you do not know even what "theory" means in science. If something is "theory" in science then it means that it has enormous amount of experimental support, because "scientific theory" means experimentally verified explanation of data. Theory is the HIGHEST form of explanation in science.
Yes there are. By studying and experimenting with the properties of matter at quantum level, you also get information about Big Bang. Big Bang is not an "idea", it is a CONCLUSION based on studying the evidence. This is what you obviously fail to understand about science.
Science STUDIES EVIDENCE first and then MAKES CONCLUSIONS. Big Bang is conclusion.
Another measure of the validity of "scientific theory" is its ability to make correct predictions that can be tested. Big Bang theory succeeds in that. The results correspond to what Big Bang theory predicts. Most well known example is the prediction of cosmic background radiation, but that is not the only one.
BTW, "string theory" is not a theory at all, it is hypothesis, and THAT is what can not yet be tested.
@theatheistexperience1 That's because objective scientists find no evidence in creation concept(s).
jdale1 51 minutes ago
Stephan Hawkings, while very brilliant is making a contradiction within his statement, he says that the laws of physics pre date the creation of the universe, but the laws of physics only describe what is taking place within the created universe. he states that the laws of physics transend the universe, which is his contradiction. he also states that the universe creates itself, x creates x. but for that to work x must pre exist x to create itself, so that is contradiction #2.
bulldog08879 1 hour ago
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jdale1 4 hours ago
@lauras1978 You are in no position to tell other people where they are at in life and why they don't believe in god or that they hate christians. You have no idea what you are talking about. Nothing happened in my life that made me not believe in god.
jdale1 4 hours ago
The old gods were defeated and/or imprisoned by the titans. Everybody knows that.
Theamazingsamface 6 hours ago
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@lauras1978 Why do you only trust in the bible? Do you identify with more with it than Islam's faith in god? The Quran is the last testament by god to mankind, would it not be in your best interest to read it's message? Just curious.
jdale1 17 hours ago
Mr Hawking, you cannot prove God does not exist.
Disappointing arguments (for they are not proved by scientific, empirical evidence).
JaimeinUK 17 hours ago
@JaimeinUK given there is ZILCH EVIDENCE, not the slightest proof of any god...he likely to be right of course
however errors in koran and bible PROVE religion a cruel hoax...and that the religious are conned/lied to
proudfemale 13 hours ago
@proudfemale
as long as you keep it as "it is likely", we can accept it for good, which, by the way, confirms you cannot prove God does not exist, the same way I cannot prove He exists (beliefs aside). Good day.
JaimeinUK 5 hours ago
@JaimeinUK whats the odds of proof of any god, given there ISNT A SHRED OF PROOF of EXISTENCE...but massive evidences of evolution, etc
proudfemale 5 hours ago
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@lauras1978 Do have any contemporary sources outside the bible and the quran that can help validate your claims, or is it all faith based for your?
jdale1 19 hours ago
no matter who or what tries to deny the existence of GOD
science cant explain how you create something out of nothing
if there is no god
ppl argue the big bang bs but that means that something had to exist for those events to take place ere goes how did these things come to be
things can not Just decide to be and then be, for them to have a thought means they had to exists in some form to begin with
so again we come to the issue how did they come to
be if GOD isnt real
QueenOfLogic 21 hours ago
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@QueenOfLogic "science cant explain how you create something out of nothing" The only crowd that proclaims this nonsense is creationists trying to inject that evolutionists claim "something came from nothing". Science makes no such ridiculous claim. "but that means that something had to exist for those events to take place ere goes how did these things come to be" Incorrect. Just because we don't know what was before the bang (there might not have been) is no logical conclusion.
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@QueenOfLogic If you are led to believe or think this is what the bang is suggesting, you need to do some more reading on the bang. It's one of the most common misconceptions of the theory. Creationists use this to distort what the bang actually suggests."things can not Just decide to be and then be, for them to have a thought means they had to exists in some form to begin with" Says who?
jdale1 21 hours ago
@QueenOfLogic What makes you think GOD (some divine being) created everything? If there was actually some sort of a "beginning", It would definetly need to start elsewhere than with an "already intelligent being". Some forms of energy had to appear from somewhere to first create that "god". Maybe it's a creation of some advanced "alien" race or whatever. I'm not saying I know things, I'm just saying that no one really knows. Science just is sceptical until it finds some proof.
Excyis 21 hours ago
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@thetheistexperience1 "plead to ignorance" Please demonstrate.
jdale1 1 day ago
science does nto have the tools necessary to answer the question "does God exist" it is a question too far out of teh reach of what science is capable of.
thetheistexperience1 1 day ago
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@lauras1978 Why do we need proof? Because the majority of us would rather know that things are true and get rid of as many false beliefs as possible rather than have faith that things are true. You and the muslim have faith that your beliefs are true. But what about other faiths who do not believe in your's and muslim's belief in god. Is their faith less credible than yours? How do you know?
jdale1 1 day ago
gott ist tot...
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@lauras1978 The use of sunsets, ultra sounds, watches and flowers are no evidence of a god or a creator. Of course you don't need explanations so you special plead in the case of god but don't use the same mentality in your everyday life. Stating "from ooze" doesn't add validity to your claim as science doesn't claim anything came from "ooze" and the belief that it does is not only arrogant but ignorant.
jdale1 1 day ago
"god doesn't exist" wubwubwubwawawawawawawuububub
blammineze 1 day ago
If God created Man, who or what created God?
hitmanguy345 1 day ago
@hitmanguy345 you are suggesting an infinite regression which is logiclaly and mathematically impossible.
thetheistexperience1 1 day ago
There was another universe before this one. And when this universe is destroyed another universe will be created. Not created by god, but by extreme relative forces. ;)
bsgrn17 1 day ago
@bsgrn17 Just like that huh
okballer 1 day ago
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@tigersforchrist You need to accept Sheba for enternal rest of your soul. There's still time, ask for forgiveness and you shall have it. Don't let this oppotunity pass you by.
jdale1 1 day ago
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Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 1 day ago
@tigersforchrist
Jebus is false god. You must accept the Great Wolf Spirit.
Hobu123 22 hours ago
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@laylaycheerz My money is on Mohammed. You wanna get in on that? Only a 7 point spread, woulda ya say?
jdale1 1 day ago
God is coming soon ppl you.need to.ask for repentance and be saved!
laylaycheerz 1 day ago
@laylaycheerz please do the rest of us REAL people and the world as a whole a favor and just go kill yourself. Spreading lies like an ignorant misinformed child. Leave this world for our sake or become educated. I guarantee you haven't even fully read any of your own religion texts.
aepceo1 1 day ago
@laylaycheerz wtf are you his lawyer? You my friend is the no 1 sinner just for the words you are saying. Religious garbage have lost any sense of reality of what god is. If you believe in him just keep it to yourself.
anagno13 1 day ago
@laylaycheerz I stand with you. God is coming soon.
lauras1978 1 day ago
@lauras1978 OH REALLY lol...and WHAT god would that be given there isn't a shred of proof of any such being and religions ALL inventions of man
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lauras1978 1 day ago
@proudfemale Why do you need proof? I have faith and I will proclaim that faith. What you believe in is what you believe in. Think about what I said and take it for what it's worth. I am not trying to change your mind. How could we evolve from nothing? That's scientifically impossible. We go from ooze to Elvis? Now that would need an explanation.
lauras1978 1 day ago
@lauras1978 to tell you the truth, we don't every really need faith to believe in God. We can strongly infer His existence from mere observation of the natural world. Faith comes in when we are asked to believe that what he revealed in the Bible is true.
thetheistexperience1 1 day ago
@thetheistexperience1 That's a very good point. My faith just started out as a belief in a Higher Power. Over time, I became a believer of Christ. This was not just an overnight thing. My journey to Christ started in my 7th year of believing in a Higher Power. That 7th year, I came to Christ. All of the prophesies in the Bible predicting Christ's birth, life and resurrection were fulfilled. No other figure in religious history had their life predicted like Christ.
lauras1978 21 hours ago
@lauras1978 very true. It is also true that no one else claimed to be the truth, Buddha said, look to my teaching, but Christ said, "I am the way, the truth and teh light."
thetheistexperience1 4 hours ago
@thetheistexperience1 All of the prophesies except the Second Coming which is on it's way. Revelation reveals a picture of the future and it's terrifying. But those who believe will not go through it. That was promised by Christ. Christ's people will be here. I believe that He created the universe and He will ultimately destroy earth and rebuild it. I am not a science enthusiast. I am a believer in God. My life has been saved numerous times for me not to believe.
lauras1978 20 hours ago
@lauras1978 people who THINK don't just 'accept' being taught a 'belief' and you show childish stupidity to ask why we need proof given the obscene human misery religion inflicts on its victims
re pregnancy...have you actually read your koran LOL
anyone with 'intellect' and who knows embryology would squirm with shame at the ERRORS OF THAT era included in the man made comic book koran
islam teaches 'a child resembles whoever discharges first' LOL
proudfemale 19 hours ago
@proudfemale I am not religious so let's throw that point out the window. I have a relationship with Jesus. You can too but that's your choice. Next topic. I don't read the Koran. I read the Bible. As far as intellect is concerned? There's such a thing as being too smart for your own good. Thank God I'm not. While I respect people who practice Islam, I am a Christian and I only follow what is in the Word. Do you have more insults by the way?
lauras1978 18 hours ago
@proudfemale The only reason I ask if you have more insults is I would rather take them then for you to insult somebody else. Fire away if it makes you feel better.
lauras1978 18 hours ago
@lauras1978 if you think facts,truths,reality is insulting, tough
pity you don't care how insulting/offensive religion is to its victims
proudfemale 13 hours ago
@proudfemale You just have an issue with Christianity and that's not my problem. Religion has nothing to do with a relationship with Jesus. What I can't stand is religion being used as a tool to control people. That's where I think you're coming from. Mind you that this has nothing to do with a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I just want to make that clear. And....yes I do care because I used to be in the mindset you're in. I can't control people and neither can you.
lauras1978 4 hours ago
@lauras1978 arethkyntaul has you 'pegged'
so tell me, WHEN did the purported adam live
proudfemale 13 hours ago
@proudfemale Nobody has me pegged. Read Genesis to find out when Adam lived. That's my best recommendation.
lauras1978 5 hours ago
@lauras1978 interestingly enough, objective scientists say that there are no contradictions between the current big bang theory and the creation story of Genesis.
thetheistexperience1 4 hours ago
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@proudfemale Let's think about what you just said. Who or what could have created such a detailed construction of this universe? What shreds of proof do you need? Look at a sunset. Look at an ultrasound of a pregnancy. Look at a vast ocean. That came from ooze? I am not talking about religion either. I do believe that a God created our world. I don't need an explanation. There are things in this world that are too beautiful to explain like inventions.
lauras1978 1 day ago
@proudfemale plead to ignorance!
thetheistexperience1 1 day ago
@thetheistexperience1 no kid, why would one with intellect/integrity want to admit to ignorance...its not me who is disillusioned, and scared silly of facts,truths,reality
Im laughing at the 'strongly infer' - HOW exactly
who would forget WHY religious leaders went to the extreme effort/trouble they did to prevent a science exhibition being showing in Kenya...some even admitted 'why' they did lol
proudfemale 19 hours ago
@proudfemale Why would one with intellect want to admit ignorance? To learn. Which is the main problem with most religious people; They don't want to learn because their religions don't leave room for real knowledge. But for the rest of us THINKING apes, admitting ignorance is the fastest path to knowledge. Asking questions is the only way to get answers. Oh, and
@lauras1978: You're an idiot. Your 'relationship with Jesus' basically proves it, if your comments here weren't enough evidence.
arethkyntaul 13 hours ago
@arethkyntaul You just don't like Christians. God loves you and I hope you find peace and happiness. By the way, I'm not religious. I love Jesus! You know NOTHING about my life. I overcame addiction, abuse and the military. I served my country and after all that, I came to Jesus Christ. I know what place you're in. Religion has NOTHING to do with Jesus. He Himself couldn't stand religion. All He wants is to know us. What you do with that is up to you.
lauras1978 5 hours ago
@lauras1978 ... Must you prove my insult so effectively?
arethkyntaul 54 minutes ago
@proudfemale first and foremost, the last leader of the Catholic Church (Pope John Paul II) affirmed that there is no reason to "fear" science, and that science and religion can indeed ceexist as means of attainin truth about reality as a whole. Second the plead to ignorance (I think that is what you are referring to) is afallacy that says, "there is no evidence to support such and such a view, therefore the opposite must be true."
thetheistexperience1 4 hours ago
that's not stephen hawkings, that's a computer voice!
partonace 2 days ago
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@tolow16 Muslims live life just fine without the concept of Jesus. Although the Quran identifies who Jesus is and his relationship with God, Jesus is not the focal point of Islamic faith. Their claim that the Quran as the last testament of God, allows them to have the same relationship as you do with God through Mohammed, as you do as the bible claims through Jesus. Their faith is just as strong as yours.
jdale1 2 days ago
I thought only christians could make such pile of shit videos.But as an atheist i'm happy to always self-correct
Samura1gamer 2 days ago
jesus is the way and as soon as you find that out the better your life will be
tolow16 2 days ago
@tolow16 what is your proof? why should anyone believe you?
IamAsi94 2 days ago
@IamAsi94 its a faith. Plus its not him he wants you to believe, its jesus christ.
AuraScar 2 days ago
@AuraScar faith is not evidence its actually the opposite....
IamAsi94 2 days ago 2
@IamAsi94 i didnt say that. I know they are opposites, im saying he has faith. Thats good enough for him.
AuraScar 1 day ago
He does exist he created good and bad
Sebastian48532 2 days ago
@Sebastian48532 or it could have been the guy that weighted the book about god * which he made up*
AFearedSoul 2 days ago
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 2 days ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
Mogley52 2 days ago
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@Mogley52 "SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy" Source that science claims this. "That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws" Unfortunately, the supernatural has never been proven to exist, so it's irrelevant."no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing." Whose saying it did?
jdale1 1 day ago
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@Mogley52 "The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe" This statement makes absolutely no sense. "HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM" Erroneous. Atheism is the disbelief in a god or gods.
jdale1 1 day ago
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CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. Given enough time, all of the energy becomes useless and the universe cannot be sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
Mogley52 2 days ago
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
Mogley52 2 days ago
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 2 days ago
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"Kind" is a meaningless, empty term. Kinds do not exist. There is absolutely nothing that stops small changes from accumulating into big changes over time.
>>>>How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs,
>>>>reproductive systems were still evolving?
Do you even have slightest idea about how evolution proceeds? "Still evolving"? Absolutely EVERY organ and organ system even now is "still evolving".
Hobu123 2 days ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 2 days ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 2 days ago
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>>>>MAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS,
>>>>part feet with the fins evolving
We don't have to imagine them, such fish exist even nowadays. Survival benefit is beling able to survive on water-land border like tidal region, away from water predators, and beling able to take short travels over land into next water body.
>>>There are no true transitional forms
All fossils are transitional.
Hobu123 2 days ago
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>>>>Read articles by scientists supporting
>>>creation at The Institute for Creation Research
What is the point in reading "articles" that every first year biology student can refute? All those "articles" consist of nothing else but lies, factial errors, logical fallacies, out of context quotes and other crap. Your "institute" is nit scientific, it is institute of RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST RETARDS.
Hobu123 2 days ago
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>>>>>I have given over a dozen lectures
Lectures created by religious fundamentalist LIARS, full of factual errors and misconceptions, are of no importance in science. There is ABSOLUTELY NO war among "evolutionists" at all.
Go to PubMed database and find me ONE article among those 300,000+ peer reviewed ones about evolution that contain anything against evolution? FIND ME ONE.
Hobu123 2 days ago
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>>>GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES
>>>>are better explained due to a common Designer
Using your retarded "common designer", please explain me the distribution patterns of ERV-s in genetic material of hominids and why the established evolutionary relationships based on those patterns happen to correspond to relationships based on totally independent and separate fields like paleontology, embryology or molecular biology.
Hobu123 2 days ago
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>>>>refutes arguments by evolutionists
Even a site called Talkorigins org refutes all of the idiotic retarded creationist crap "arguments" that we all have heard already billion times. Every time a biblical CRETINIST appears, it is always the same old babbling, always the same old retarded "arguments" that every biology student can refute. LMAO.
Hobu123 2 days ago
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Do you really live in RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST DELUSIONAL IDIOCY that you have absolutely ANY CHANCE in debate against evolutionary biologist? Using the same old and billion times refuted creationist "arguments" that we have seen many times?
If you have anything "against" evolution then why don't you publish it in PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE in respected SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL instead of walking around and babbling your nonsense to scientifically illiterate audience?
Hobu123 2 days ago
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Thanks for a good laugh though. It is always funny to see brainwashed religiotards who describe how they walk around and "give lectures" that refute all 21st century science and then ask such silly and idiotic questions like "How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving?" which show that they really have absolutely NO understanding at all about how evolution proceeds
Go back to your retarded Church of Talking Snakes and Stupidity
Hobu123 2 days ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.
Mogley52 2 days ago
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WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
Mogley52 2 days ago
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EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
Mogley52 2 days ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 2 days ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 2 days ago
GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 2 days ago
THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, origin of life, etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
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lucky806 2 days ago
Yes religion is a big lie and a pyramid scheme like every other.
Anyone worth something already knew this ages ago.
Also this video sucks.
Tomislav005 2 days ago
God made me an atheist.
rureadyboots 2 days ago
we human have a total deficiency in our knowledge at any time.cause we know more than yesterday and less than tomorrow. we obviously know really little about our being and world..how arrogant some scientist say things that they really dont know nothing about.
hooshyari1 2 days ago
i beleive in god,but i won't force my beliefs on anyone.i respect hawkings opinion but i personally see science as a way to explain god's creations.anyways,whether there is a god or not is not for us to know until we die.that's the only way to be sure.
lucky806 3 days ago
@lucky806 Yes but when we die, so does our brain and we stop existing. So sadly we actually never know for sure.
Well other than the whole "we're in the 21st century and know ghosts and gods and fairies don't exist" thing.
Tomislav005 2 days ago
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@Tomislav005 ghosts do exist,but do you really think society is gonna accept their existence?nope,they'll just keep saying "we don't know,there's no evidence". and yes our brain dies but our essence and consciousness will continue into the next reality/afterlife...that's what i believe.but no one will ever be sure because people cant come back to life after years of being dead and say "guess what,there is an afterlife"...so we just wait
lucky806 2 days ago
I find it amusing that so many people think they can question Stephen Hawking. He is a very well educated and intelligent man. You may see him as a potentially bitter legless retard, but he knows his stuff.
If a scientific genius is unable to convince you, then it's just pointless to even try.
TreadingSky 3 days ago
Hawking = retard
Naturaly God does not exist because it's a greco roman germanic term of no meaning.
On the other hand , Yahuvah does exist , and it looks like he dissmissed YOU hawking.
azkeyz 3 days ago
Wait hmmmmm I dont believe this or ill believe this because some people says god is not real and some people says god is real im confused?
Deathizone14 3 days ago
And I always thought you couldn't prove a negative....
ShellyManne1 3 days ago
god is 100% real he created this world with his own hands
TheBeachAndTheNelson 3 days ago
@TheBeachAndTheNelson Any evidence to back that up?
TheEternalThrash 3 days ago
@TheBeachAndTheNelson Wow, you make a startlingly solid argument.
therealgrawger 3 days ago
Thank you
DoctorDrewification 3 days ago
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@CyanideAddiction123 "tell me one reasonably example..." creationists in general make claims that the majority of the scientific community do not agree with or state they are flat out wrong. They do not agree that evolution has been disproven. False claims about evolution, the big bang what they are and what they claim. I know you asked for one but here you go.
jdale1 3 days ago
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@tigersforchrist The answers you won't find in Jesus Christ. The last testament of god is the Quran. Mohammed (peace be upon him) is God's true prophet. To find the path to God's glory it can only come through Mohammed. There is still time to save yourself.
jdale1 3 days ago
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Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 3 days ago
@jully716 or just a chemical reaction taking place in the biology of your brain.
BenCovus1983 3 days ago
I know God exists because .... wait for it ... He created peanut butter, one of my favorite foods! When I look into the eyes of my niece, , look out the window on a sunny day ... hear my nephews voice change, it's so grand and reflects back to me the granduer of God.
jully716 3 days ago
and in this day and age, tell me one reasonably example of how religious people do anything to screw the science comunity up? take into consideration that humanists and religious fanatics are two very different types of people not one and the same as you all think we are.
CyanideAddiction123 3 days ago
He may be brilliant, but how do you know he is right? after all he is human, and we all fuck up, we all make mistakes, but alot of us like to think that because someone as brilliant as stephen hawking could never be wrong, we will just see, I will tell you this, If I am wrong, so be it, but I would rather be proven wrong when I die, than go by some guy's opinion, because that's really all it is, and be proven wrong in that theory.
CyanideAddiction123 3 days ago
We are human, we are but a spec in the universe, why should I Believe that just because some guy says physics proves god to be pretty much useless and not real, why should I believe it? it's like saying aliens don't exist, the universe is just too big to be throwing those kinds of judgements out, the day I listen to someone say god doesn't exist is the day when I die, I would rather believe in something when I die than to be like "that's it?"
CyanideAddiction123 3 days ago
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@pacifistworldunity I don't believe in god, so it wouldn't make much sense to call "him" ignorant.
jdale1 3 days ago
ALL YOU RELIGOUS PEOPLE HAVE NOW THUMBS DOWN THE GREATERST MIND IN ALL PHYSICS AND SCIENCE HAS EVERY SEEN THIS IS WHY YOU SLOW DOWN MANKINDS PROGRESS WITH YOUR OPPRESSIVE RELIGOUN. THANKS
SmileyPsycho1 3 days ago
No disrespect to the man of his mentally condition but see what happens when you commit blasphemy..but fuck that...thats all you got out of half a minute so amusing ha ha how would man truthfully know if God did or did not exist, being as our brain was developed (created by God) to hold only so much knowledge of something?? I think we as humans have reached the apex of increased knowledge throughout time..Remember keep in mind GOD works in strangely mysterious ways...GOD BLESS
pacifistworldunity 3 days ago
@pacifistworldunity "Remember keep in mind GOD works in strangely mysterious ways.." And like all other "evidence" for god, this is still a statement from ignorance.
jdale1 3 days ago
@jdale1 So in other words your basically sayin God is ignorant? no disrespect but your a complete fool.
pacifistworldunity 3 days ago
@pacifistworldunity he's not saying God is ignorant, he's saying that statement is ignorant.
superlameism 3 days ago
@pacifistworldunity What I call erroneous, you call strangely mysterious.
RamiDowler 3 days ago
@pacifistworldunity and yet, Hawking had been more for the world then God did. There is no evidence to back up God. If God does exist then your "God" is an asshole. go read the Old Testament. God was a self-centered, greedy, racist, homophobic, jealous, insecure, asshole that endorsed rape, murder, kidnapping, and racism.
DarkAero94 2 days ago
Belive in GOD or fucking dont! Who cares , believe in what you believe in and live your life!
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jdale1 4 days ago
Explaining scientifically how the universe works is not proof it was not created. In science all we are doing is finding out how life, nature and the universe works, or how God had make it work. When we understand how the clock works does that mean it was not created. When someone learns and understands how a car works or discovers how somethiing works does that mean it was not created. When we discover how life came about, what will that prove?. Nothing.
ZeusHelios 4 days ago
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@ZeusHelios Comparing things we know are created (the clock) doesn't answer the question of how everything came to be. If you had doubts about the clock, you could easily trace it's origin and even witness one being created. When you use the analogy that "the clock is all you know" and don't have a frame of reference to it being "created", you're back to square one pondering how it came to be. You're just rehashing the watch maker argument.
jdale1 3 days ago
If you were in a clock and the clock was your world. You will find it appears to work without a creator. Yet not realsing it was created. My point is the clock works without appearing to need anything making it work. Because it works all by itself. The universe is like the clock It was created to tick along without appearing to need any further assistance. The power from the clock comes from man either winding it up or replacing its batteries. The universe is powered by God.
ZeusHelios 4 days ago
Is this really Steven Hawkins talking. Or has someone used his voice and picture to make it look as though its him talking.
ZeusHelios 4 days ago
Are you fucking kidding me? How about all of the religious people here stop making fun of someone who is smarter than you'll ever hope to be and ACTUALLY try to produce some sort of evidence for once.
jcbarkley123 4 days ago
Yeah, you should hear that from an Atheist
Itachi4489 4 days ago
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@Zaviex when you misrepresent the theory from the get go. The notion that it's properties have not been observed to test them is ridiculous. Creation has never been observed, yet people believe it. We've never observed earth's or Pluto's orbit around the sun, but based on the math and that the two continue to follow the laws of gravity, we confidently say that our prediction is a scientifically sound prediction.
jdale1 4 days ago
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@Zaviex You claim to know a lot about the big bang and it's flaws, but just about everything you've commented on are some of the biggest misconceptions associated with it. Your definition as to what it claims is wrong (it doesn't claim the creation of the universe) and your explanation of it's properties are incorrect. You then go on to say that it's theory is based on entropy, it's not. The theory provides perfect explanation of it's properties. Hard to accept that you understand the theory wh
jdale1 4 days ago
Haha I love how basically everyone believes (whether you believe in his existence or not) that God is portrayed correctly by early ignorant humans thousands of years ago. Shit, even Stephen Hawking spends valuable time saying there is no God because the laws of physics work without the need of one (even though that doesn't prove fucking anything, truly) but he is right that the Biblical God does not exist, but to say there is no God (in any form, conceivable or not) is straight up stupid.
Slaytounge 4 days ago
would you believe if you were in his condition
Moooo53 4 days ago 14
@Moooo53 many do believe exactly because they suffer from such conditions, it their "only hope" so to speak, its just that some people have the intelligence to realise and to seek the truth i guess.
MDGravey15 4 days ago
@Moooo53 yea but he had all reasons to kill himself but he didn't lol now he argues with popes on the big bang theory while contradicting himself admitting God's existents to me he's a retard who was lucky enough to talk
SIRHENNY1 3 days ago
@Moooo53 YES! because its astounding hes still alive but the thing is he doesn't because it is unnecessary to believe in god in a day and age filled with such advancements in the understanding of were we come from, how the earth came to be, nay how the cosmos came to fruition.
theoneplusthree 2 days ago
@Moooo53 Don't kid yourself, there are plenty of disabled people who believe in god. His reasons for being an atheist are rational, like all atheists. We don't wake up one day and say 'hey I hate god, god hasn't been good to me, i'm not going to not believe'.
peterlikesthis 2 days ago
see en yo tube DOS ROSTROS EN EL CIELO. is god.
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worldwiderelease 5 days ago
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@worldwiderelease Cue the X-Files music
jdale1 5 days ago
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worldwiderelease 5 days ago
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@believeordiedude It's not a lack of faith, it's a lack of belief-a rejection of claims that have not met a burden of proof. You proclaim they'll be consequences for nonbelievers. You could be held just as accountable just for what you believe in or disbelieve in. You could be wrong and the Muslim or the Hindu could be right.
jdale1 5 days ago
If you watched that interview, in it's entirety, and deduced that Stephen Hawking actually made ANY declaration that even slightly resembled a denial or repudiation of the existence of God, you are one seriously stupid or retarded person... and if you didn't... well, then you are something much worse than that! Sorry for your lack of Faith, dude, but if you think you'll never be held accountable for trying to snuff out ANOTHER"S Faith... man, are YOU in for BIG surprise. Good luck with that :(
believeordiedude 5 days ago
@believeordiedude No, YOU are the one in for a BIG surprise churchie. Good luck with that :)
bigbigtitties1 5 days ago
science makes god unnecessary doesn't mean god doesn't exist
Zaviex 5 days ago
@Zaviex Of course it does. Otherwise he would have no purpose, and if he has no purpose and isn't actually doing anything, then he isn't a god.
007RoyalFlush 5 days ago
@007RoyalFlush wow here is someone who hasn't studied any theology at all but chooses to argue. there are hundreds of models where a God wouldn't do anything beyond create the universe or perhaps set things in motion in multiple universes.
Zaviex 5 days ago
@Zaviex You've missed the entire point of this video. Science proves everything, including creation
007RoyalFlush 5 days ago
@007RoyalFlush it simply does not do that with any definition. The big bang lies in a measure of increasing entropy that caused the matter to spread out and create the universe but that is incredibly vague and entirely unprovable and in no way disputes a god's existence
Zaviex 5 days ago
@Zaviex I'll take a provable theory that needs research to develop the details over the fairy tale stories of religion any day of the week.
007RoyalFlush 5 days ago
@007RoyalFlush the big bang is just as much of a "fairy tale" as any religion its a theory based on entropy which is just an extremely vague guess based on a possibility but is entirely unreliable, has no way to be examined or proven, and has major flaws. E.G IF the big bang was caused by entropy why are there any constants in this universe? That wouldn't make sense. Arguably very little is actually constant but nothing should be constant.
Zaviex 5 days ago
@Zaviex Absolute rubbish. You claim that the big bang theory is based on little truth, which we all know to be bullshit, yet religion is based on no truth whatsoever. You have no angle.
007RoyalFlush 5 days ago
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@Zaviex "its a theory based on entropy which is just an extremely vague guess based on a possibility but is entirely unreliable, has no way to be examined or proven," Clear example of you not taking the time to understand what the big bang is, how it works and what it claims.
jdale1 5 days ago
@Zaviex
You really live in delusion that Big Bang theory would be supported by physicists if it had "major flaws"? Do you think that world top physicists and cosmologists are idiots? Or could it be that YOUR knowledge and understanding about Big Bang is non-existing?
Hobu123 4 days ago
@Zaviex
>>>>wow here is someone who hasn't studied
>>>>any theology at all but chooses to argue
wow here is someone who hasn't studied Big Bang cosmology at all but chooses to argue.
Hobu123 4 days ago
@Hobu123 i actually know quite a bit about the big bang and its flaws. I also am currently writing a paper about String and its relation to a "god" and why whether string is valid or invalid it proves nothing
Zaviex 4 days ago
@Hobu123 No you clearly no nothing about the big bang or the support of top physicist. Its a theory which has little proof to support it aside from entropy being measurable there is no possible experiment to test it other than to locate the center of the universee (impossible) then travel from there to the end of the universe (also impossible). Top physicist actually rather support String more often and neither theory proves or disproves the existence of god.
Zaviex 4 days ago
@Zaviex
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String theory and Big Bang theory are about different things. Big Bang is about first moments of the Universe, string theory is about what was before universe. Also, there is no "center if the Universe" because Big Bang doesn't mean that everything started to fly apart from some center. Big Bang means that SPACETIME ITSELF is expanding, not that things are "flying away" from center.
Hobu123 4 days ago
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Also it is obvious that you do not know even what "theory" means in science. If something is "theory" in science then it means that it has enormous amount of experimental support, because "scientific theory" means experimentally verified explanation of data. Theory is the HIGHEST form of explanation in science.
Examples: cell theory, germ theory.
Hobu123 4 days ago
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>>>>there is no possible experiment to test it
Yes there are. By studying and experimenting with the properties of matter at quantum level, you also get information about Big Bang. Big Bang is not an "idea", it is a CONCLUSION based on studying the evidence. This is what you obviously fail to understand about science.
Science STUDIES EVIDENCE first and then MAKES CONCLUSIONS. Big Bang is conclusion.
Hobu123 4 days ago
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Another measure of the validity of "scientific theory" is its ability to make correct predictions that can be tested. Big Bang theory succeeds in that. The results correspond to what Big Bang theory predicts. Most well known example is the prediction of cosmic background radiation, but that is not the only one.
BTW, "string theory" is not a theory at all, it is hypothesis, and THAT is what can not yet be tested.
Hobu123 4 days ago
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>>>>i actually know quite a bit about the
>>>>big bang and its flaws
No you don't. Maximum that you know about Big Bang is perhaps some distorted and absurd summary from a religious website.
>>>>String and its relation to a "god"
Why not also wrote an essay about how strings are related to "invisible magical teapot"?
Hobu123 4 days ago
Well who created