Through my personal opinion I believe the demoman is kind of overpowered. The demoman is kind of two classes. The ordnance expert, whom the Demoman really SHOULD be. Or the DemoKnight, a primarily melee class counter-part of the Demoman which they're sole purpose is to go offensive and charge at people. For the DemoKnight you actually need gear, so in a way the DemoKnight loses as well. Trading other items or buying them to get them. You'll get scout and Heavy weapons more than DemoKnight Gear.
All classes have power, it depends on how it is used and, all the classes have a weakness and power! Scout, running and Capturing, Demoman, Sticky bombs and grenade launchers, Spy, cloaking! Think about that
@FoshyFish I disagree, to me the heavy is the most OP. I think demoman can be a pain, but it's also hard to get really good at so it's ok, like you said it usually depends on the player but with heavies, well, they are hard to take down and do lots of damage. So usually the team that has most heavies wins. If they suck then they suck, but it's easier to get kills as heavy. When I play as heavy people have a really hard time killing me. Spies are the only one's with a chance, but if Im careful...
@levi799 LOL, HEAVY IS OVERPOWERED? get in the game man, i was in a ctf game and i had junk teammates (by junk it was to many people playing the wrong class, like 6 snipers or some shit) i was spy, all alone, protecting the capture point. heavys are reaally slow so there soo easy to backstab. if anything, pyros are overpowered SOMETIMES, matters the map. a decent f2p pyro can kill a heavy in seconds by getting behind him and before you know it, hes dead. if your thinking backburner it was stock.
@myminion74 This is what really annoys me, when people will actually say that a pyro is OP. Backburner has less damage when on crits than minigun has without crits (at that range). And the pyro is has to get close while the heavy has better range. Either way, the heavy's speed isn't much of an impediment except against spies. When facing opponents it takes more trouble to kill them than other classes since aiming is easier for heavies. Only spies have a good chance against them.
@levi799 remember, the heavy is slow as hell, meaning its easy for the following to kill them:
snipers. easy 1 shot headshots.
scouts. jump shoot jump over em shoot repeat
solders. easy rocket hits, spam spam hit hit and there to slow to get away.
demo. eeeeeasy pipe bomb shots.
spys. quicker than em, stab stab.
pyro. if they arent seen, BURN BABY BURN (note. a flamethrower when hitting can about WITH CRITS 679 damage in 2 secs. a heavy with decent aim can do more, but in more time. yeah.
@myminion74 Those techniques are the ones you need to take them down, but they demand that you are good at your class, but if the heavy is also just as good at being heavy then it's not as easy as you try to make it seem like. I've seen more times one heavy eat tons of players than other classes.
@levi799 waitwaitwaitwait getting behind a heavy is hard as pyro. WHAT? after 5 secs of circling around him, hes dead. as a sniper, sure, if you can see him you can shoot him, but that doesnt mean he has seen you. say your at a ninty degree angle at his shoulder, he cant see you. charge, bang. same with solder, have full rockets, bam bam bam, hide, reload, go back and kill him. DEMO IS HARD? unless your right beside him with no stickys you are going to win. chances are, you already have em out.
@myminion74 I disagree, like I told you the pyro damage is much less even with crits than heavy damage and since heavy has more health its not always easy. Im not saying itS impossible just not as easy as you try to make it sound. As sniper sure you can do that, it's all about if he saw you or not and how far he is. As soldier it's not as easy as you're saying, the heavy will notice you with the first rocket and still have more health than you unless he's already being attacked by many.
@myminion74 What you have to remember, mostly with the pyro thingy, is that when the heavy is alone and there aren't many, hopefully no, friends of him near then that's possible, but not always can you spot a heavy from distance to sneak to him, either you camp on some good place, which isnt that smart in tf2 except for snipers, or sneak your way to the heavy and hope he doesn't have tomislav or natascha and is bad at aiming. If there are any of his friends near then its not going to be easy.
@myminion74 Just compare all the job you have to do to kill a heavy than to kill other clases. As pyro I dont have to circle any other class, the kill is done quicker, as soldier I dont have to shoot other classes 10 times or hide that much, as any other class I dont need to go through all that pain to kill other classes.
Notice how all your tactics, like the one for demo, are about seeing him first, as most classes I can be seen first and still win, only if the heavy is far away is it easier.
Lol you're bad Spy, you rush towards a soldier with Scout AND you suck with hitscan weapons... Nothing in this video has any value in means of stating anythings' OP'ness.
No.. Just no.. There is no such thing as OP class in tf2, its just 9 different classes with different skillcaps. A first timing backburner pyro can get as many kills as 1.5k hour gametime scout, but it is all about the time you play, the map you play, the player you play with and such factors :P
ps. Your video consists of you demospamming some random pubs with barely 10 hours gameplay, you recording it and making a vid declaring demo is op lol
cock rocketing or spamming sticky bombs like demo and solider... or the nearly unhitable scout and his BS 1 shot scattergun are all OP.. spy is a skillfull play.. not to mention u didn't cover Pyro.... pyro can jsut Spray to win...
@alrex96 First of all, he IS stupid. But you are worse, you are basicly just copying a comment and have a bad grammar. But the worst part is you're just doing it for thumbs up.
You know what is the most overpowered? Yep, its teamwork. All classes are definitely balanced imo. Just get an uber medic if spawn camper demo persists. Pyro is also a huge counter to spy(but kinda screwed now because of the spycicle which is a bad idea)
the fact that u dont know how to play 1 class dont make it weak or overpower the other its just lack of skill from u, i know a lot of great spyes and a couple of scouts that can beat that number.
one thing its for shure soilder its the easiest calss to play BUT its the one that u have moar space to improove. same witht demo
@TeleFRAGG spies* use their gun to fight off players from a great range if the player is at low health.a sniper with the razorback can't be backstabbed, so if you want to kill him, then revolver is the way.
"if i was a demo i wolda FUCKED them up" if you were a demo and that pyro knows something called "airblast" wich can be a good weapon, you "woulda FUCKED yourself"
in all honesty, it's kind of unfair to say the demoman is the best when you got ubercharged during the test, everclass when ubered gets a sudden killstreak
@WulvPawz Depends if you're talking about stock Heavy, or the dreaded tomivichgru heavy. Free 150HP at will, basically instant revving of a weapon that outdamages every other weapon in the game that isn't also held by a Heavy, and free pyro/engineer/sniper/spy speed with use of GRU hopping.
@sakisakasan A miniscule downside on the tomislav for a huge upside. The difference in time it takes to kill an overhealed Heavy is less than a tenth of a second for much better ability to ambush, essentially immunity to ambushes, and greater combat mobility.
When you have such fast spin-up time, you have no need for a shotgun, hence medium healthpacks on demand is the best choice, and GRU lets you run at pyro speed for no downside thanks to GRU hopping.
@sakisakasan "outdamages every other weapon in the game that isn't also held by a Heavy" name a weapon that can out dps a tomislav thats not headshot dependent or wielded by the heavy please.
Soldier has the most potential of all the classes in TF2. The ability to fly through the air and strife while raining hell down on all around you while almost being untouchable is pretty "OP". But all the classes in TF2 have the potential to be very dangerous. But if I really had to choose, it would be soldier
Soldier and demoman ARE completely overpowered. Replay the soldier video and see the ridiculous number of crit rockets you got. Soldiers and demos ruin the game because they are so OP. The main problem with soldiers and demos is it is impossible to avoid being killed by a good soldier or demo. They can spam so much and their attacks have huge areas, and their criticals are 1-shots.
Classes arn't overpowered. In the end it all boils down to two factors. What class you are facing and skill. Soldier and Demoman are god at straight up fights but Scout is more prefered for infiltrating the base and taking the flag and running as far as they can. In combat they are only good against say spy, sniper, medic, or other scouts. As for spy's simply put it's best played if you don't go down the main front line of combat and backstab primarily
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@MrSamuel745 Thats why you rocket jump to them on soldier, you dont have to be in long range. Scouts upclose do massive damage with their shotgun, being able to run around your target helps too. Demo does kinda suck close range unless your good at direct pipes, they do a ton of damage just hard to aim. Spy has the dead ringer, If you need to escape activate it, you now take 90% less damage until decloak. I have chased down spys with pyro flaming them for 10 seconds before they died
BUT if you ask me what class i feel is easiest I would say soldier. I dont like to play him, hes to easy I like a challenge. You can spray rockets out so fast at their feet that he almost does the most damage the quickest of any class, while damaging others in the area. Then his speed isn't a factor because you can rocket jump into range and blast them before they can do anything. Just shoot 1 rocket while in air to disorient them and another when you land and their dead.
Then the other big deciding factor is WHERE you use the class. A sniper or demo can completey lock down a corner (kill any class) but once in the open the enemies sporadic movements can throw them off easy and they lose the advantage. Heavys can rock anything up close and around corners but for long distance will get shot down. Pyros need to run up close on you while spys run up close behind you. Soldiers need medium to short range, and become a powerhouse if they trap someone in a enclosed area
You can tell which classes are easier to play then others but to compare which are overpowerd would be much harder. A big part of it is what class against what class. Snipers can get rocked by spys and scouts, while scouts can get rocked by soldiers and the heavy. The heavy needs to fear spys and snipers, while spys should be scared of pyros and scouts. Demo can do a lot but should watch out for snipers and pryos (air blast).
Now its really fucking easy to do well with Soldier but really hard to do well with spy now that people are really good at spotting and looking for them.
Spamming Stickies, Denial of Acces with stickybombs, And spawncamping are three different things, the Demoman was made to set traps with their stickybombs, not allowing enemies to get to somewhere sucessfuly, with great defensive purpose, and using their grenades to not just wash out groups of enemies, sentries, but also to get enemies to stop hiding in places.
@PurpleFirePF Um... Duh? It's their first time playing the game? I'm F2P and have been playing for a week, and I f*** people up as The Spy and The Scout.
Seriously guys please stop replying about my comment, I get it, spy is NOT easy, I had to do something so I just typed that up through my experience with that class, SO STOP REPLYING ABOUT THE SPY.
heres how i think it is the 3 classes with the most potential are the spy, scout, and pyro. they are just much harder to use than other classes and take alot of practice heavy has a low potential but is really easy to use other ones are inbetween
Spy isnt easy u have to try to dodge everyone that walks the opposite way because if u hit someone of other team they cant walk trough ya so theyl kill u
I dont find any class is overpowered, Demos are very lethal yes, but also tricky to use. The soldiers rocket launcher is poweful yes, but slow as fuck, and constantly going through painfully slow reloads and is quite likely to kill you rather than the enemy. you would be beter served to practice and master some classes than whine about the injustices you perveive as holding you back.
Pyro: Airblast and PuffnSting takes no skill anymore since the updates.
Demoman: Complete noob class unless you use Demoknight or Loch n Load
Heavy: Needs actually to be very smart and clever. (Unless with the tomifuck off course)
Sniper: Takes not any skill anymore since bodyshooting is alot more effecient, thanks to the Machina, Sidney Sleeper, 150 HP full charges... (Should be around 90 or such)
@KingBrookfield The Demoman takes some skill with the default sticky-bomb launcher mainly when you're using the bombs like grenades.
Oh, and what skill does heavy need? normally when I'm using him I just fire away, not tricky at all. The bullet spread is massive, so not much aiming, and all he can really do is fire away and be a meat shield, even with the GRU or the Sandvich. Although he does become crazy with an ubercharge, but that's only in wide areas filled with enemies.
@aquason11 Well, it just depends on your opinion. That's my opinion, and nothing else. Really, the classes are extremely well balanced if you considered everyone in mind.
@BCprinnyfan the reason im never medic, everyone aims for me first, i mean once, there was like 10 heavies behind me, and a scout, he runs back shooting at only me! then worries about heavies that kill him anyway, but i understand, with the whole uber thing and medic is important for a team, but still, its annoying sometimes
@BCprinnyfan Sniper is hard, "just being able to aim" is difficult. Spy requires a lot of practice to not get spotted, and to have perfect timing for decloaking then stab, since decloak isnt instant
@BCprinnyfan Just pointing out, it really depends on heavy, if you can position yourself right; but he's still fairly easy to play. Now with spy, spy is a lot harder depending on if you want killstreak or such, hes easy to play if you get one kill and die but if you get per say more than 10 backstabs then it gets challenging from the pyros :) (and also when their team starts to get paranoid :L).
@BCprinnyfan I disagree with spy. Maybe if a bunch of noobs got together in a game the spy would have the most points, but in a game where people actually know to spycheck and stuff like that, spy easily becomes the most skillful class in the game. It all depends on the teams.
@kyonist Yes, I get it. That's just my opinion. I get emails about replies on this comment practically every two hours, and it's really annoying... I can use spies pretty easily since most of my enemies are stupid, anyways.
@kyonist i dont think spy is the hardest to use. harder than some to be sure, but i would argue pyro is the hardest, because it still has the elements of timing and judgement spy requires but you also need good reflexes, timing for airblasts, and aim and good parkour can come in handy too (although i suppose that applies for all classes)
@kyonist most of what you said is true, but the risk taking for the spy. i play spy quite often, and i get a sufficient amount of kills when the opponent makes a stupid mistake, such as not spy checking, or afking in the middle of no where. I also get kills off of distracted players. The easiest way to get a scout, for example, is to have him distracted by one of your teammates. risk taking is necessary to be an elite spy, but a good one won't need it.
Lol using 2fort to declare balance. Heavy is OP for his skill level. His skill floor is underground and his skill ceiling is low enough to hit you head on. Scouts take practice to play well. Demos take practice to be great. Sollies are herpaderp easy. Spies take skill and luck to get behin enemies. Snipers are point and click. Pyro is underpowered as all hell, being out DPSed by a Spy's revolver. Medic is a medic. Engineer has OP'd mini sentries in low level pubs.
Pyro is now the most dominant with the phlogistinator, backburner, degreaser + axtinguisher its pretty freaking overpowered
thewapow 9 hours ago
Through my personal opinion I believe the demoman is kind of overpowered. The demoman is kind of two classes. The ordnance expert, whom the Demoman really SHOULD be. Or the DemoKnight, a primarily melee class counter-part of the Demoman which they're sole purpose is to go offensive and charge at people. For the DemoKnight you actually need gear, so in a way the DemoKnight loses as well. Trading other items or buying them to get them. You'll get scout and Heavy weapons more than DemoKnight Gear.
iiBeTrollin47 6 days ago
God dammit what comes after 2
GamingMasterx71 6 days ago
the fun thing is, the soldier and demoman actually got nerfed after that video :P
gisibah 6 days ago
it is not that classes are overpowered it is just that some people are better than others
DeManWeAllTrust 1 week ago
WAAA TAAAA FAAACK!!!!! DEMO IS NOT OVERPOWERD!!!!!!!!
122thedude 1 week ago
All classes have power, it depends on how it is used and, all the classes have a weakness and power! Scout, running and Capturing, Demoman, Sticky bombs and grenade launchers, Spy, cloaking! Think about that
TheJason3816 2 weeks ago
learn how tyo use a spy
narutoxpein98 2 weeks ago
@narutoxpein98 Learn how tyo type. :P
Wrathfury10 2 weeks ago
@Wrathfury10 lol sry
narutoxpein98 2 weeks ago
It doesn't depend how OP the classes are, it depends on the player
FoshyFish 1 month ago 6
@FoshyFish I disagree, to me the heavy is the most OP. I think demoman can be a pain, but it's also hard to get really good at so it's ok, like you said it usually depends on the player but with heavies, well, they are hard to take down and do lots of damage. So usually the team that has most heavies wins. If they suck then they suck, but it's easier to get kills as heavy. When I play as heavy people have a really hard time killing me. Spies are the only one's with a chance, but if Im careful...
levi799 3 weeks ago
@levi799 LOL, HEAVY IS OVERPOWERED? get in the game man, i was in a ctf game and i had junk teammates (by junk it was to many people playing the wrong class, like 6 snipers or some shit) i was spy, all alone, protecting the capture point. heavys are reaally slow so there soo easy to backstab. if anything, pyros are overpowered SOMETIMES, matters the map. a decent f2p pyro can kill a heavy in seconds by getting behind him and before you know it, hes dead. if your thinking backburner it was stock.
myminion74 2 weeks ago
@levi799 sorry, it was a capture point map.
myminion74 2 weeks ago
@myminion74 This is what really annoys me, when people will actually say that a pyro is OP. Backburner has less damage when on crits than minigun has without crits (at that range). And the pyro is has to get close while the heavy has better range. Either way, the heavy's speed isn't much of an impediment except against spies. When facing opponents it takes more trouble to kill them than other classes since aiming is easier for heavies. Only spies have a good chance against them.
levi799 2 weeks ago
@levi799 remember, the heavy is slow as hell, meaning its easy for the following to kill them:
snipers. easy 1 shot headshots.
scouts. jump shoot jump over em shoot repeat
solders. easy rocket hits, spam spam hit hit and there to slow to get away.
demo. eeeeeasy pipe bomb shots.
spys. quicker than em, stab stab.
pyro. if they arent seen, BURN BABY BURN (note. a flamethrower when hitting can about WITH CRITS 679 damage in 2 secs. a heavy with decent aim can do more, but in more time. yeah.
myminion74 2 weeks ago
@myminion74 I will still disagree because
snipers: only on certain cases, when the map has good long range spots
scouts: heavy with tomislav or natascha can easily stop them since the scout needs more shots (time)
soldiers: you still have to see the heavy meaning he can see you and has time to shoot you
demo: its true, but in many cases you dont plant enough before the heavy shot you
spies: true
pyro: are you kidding me? It's possible but its very rare, the heavy can more quickly shoot you down
levi799 2 weeks ago
@myminion74 Those techniques are the ones you need to take them down, but they demand that you are good at your class, but if the heavy is also just as good at being heavy then it's not as easy as you try to make it seem like. I've seen more times one heavy eat tons of players than other classes.
levi799 2 weeks ago
@levi799 waitwaitwaitwait getting behind a heavy is hard as pyro. WHAT? after 5 secs of circling around him, hes dead. as a sniper, sure, if you can see him you can shoot him, but that doesnt mean he has seen you. say your at a ninty degree angle at his shoulder, he cant see you. charge, bang. same with solder, have full rockets, bam bam bam, hide, reload, go back and kill him. DEMO IS HARD? unless your right beside him with no stickys you are going to win. chances are, you already have em out.
myminion74 2 weeks ago
@myminion74 I disagree, like I told you the pyro damage is much less even with crits than heavy damage and since heavy has more health its not always easy. Im not saying itS impossible just not as easy as you try to make it sound. As sniper sure you can do that, it's all about if he saw you or not and how far he is. As soldier it's not as easy as you're saying, the heavy will notice you with the first rocket and still have more health than you unless he's already being attacked by many.
levi799 2 weeks ago
@myminion74 What you have to remember, mostly with the pyro thingy, is that when the heavy is alone and there aren't many, hopefully no, friends of him near then that's possible, but not always can you spot a heavy from distance to sneak to him, either you camp on some good place, which isnt that smart in tf2 except for snipers, or sneak your way to the heavy and hope he doesn't have tomislav or natascha and is bad at aiming. If there are any of his friends near then its not going to be easy.
levi799 2 weeks ago
@myminion74 Just compare all the job you have to do to kill a heavy than to kill other clases. As pyro I dont have to circle any other class, the kill is done quicker, as soldier I dont have to shoot other classes 10 times or hide that much, as any other class I dont need to go through all that pain to kill other classes.
Notice how all your tactics, like the one for demo, are about seeing him first, as most classes I can be seen first and still win, only if the heavy is far away is it easier.
levi799 2 weeks ago
@FoshyFish W+m1 pyros
Just saying.
AbstractPants 4 days ago
nice job, did better than i would have with default weps
xLonlyxQueenx 1 month ago
hey dude if you're sick of flaming just disable the comments. *shrugs*
Chiramii96 1 month ago
they are different lives, whats the point? lol
ElRickillero 1 month ago
Lol you're bad Spy, you rush towards a soldier with Scout AND you suck with hitscan weapons... Nothing in this video has any value in means of stating anythings' OP'ness.
stidukka 1 month ago
The most overpowered class is the one that Insanely good player is playing as. They are all very balanced.
stidukka 1 month ago
scout doesnt look all that broken...
zaft164 1 month ago
It's the cuntsman sniper...
DecoyCannon 1 month ago
you're a pretty bad spy...
Pogiforce 1 month ago
xbox?
capsfanjason 1 month ago
My opinion is scout, medic or sniper. U CANT TELL THE BEST CLASSES FROM PLAYING 5 mins!!!!
bloxorandrokko 1 month ago
because tf2 has 4 classes right, what a waste of the worlds goods, mostly time
LocoAapje 1 month ago
all classes are OP
SergioSource 1 month ago
Wow one of the more stuped tf2 videos on youtube..
xm0rten 1 month ago
*facepalms* spy, spy faggot dead ringer, enge, enge just in like orange_x3 tower, massacre...
kthxbb
MultiB0MbER 1 month ago
scout defintaly aint OP... scout is actually really weak on TF2 :/
eva1777 1 month ago
@eva1777 one of the classes that requires more aim skill and fast thinking
SergioSource 1 month ago
spawn killer are noobs!
BakuNetTomorow 1 month ago
you suck as a scout
scadabrony 1 month ago
Well that's just how u are I own ppl with spy
Tearjerkinfacepalm 2 months ago
"Frapz lag but im gud wit scout otharwize kk plox" Okay..
"Shoots the medic that far away when he could have gone for a meatshot" No.. Just no :(
Samppazi 2 months ago
No.. Just no.. There is no such thing as OP class in tf2, its just 9 different classes with different skillcaps. A first timing backburner pyro can get as many kills as 1.5k hour gametime scout, but it is all about the time you play, the map you play, the player you play with and such factors :P
ps. Your video consists of you demospamming some random pubs with barely 10 hours gameplay, you recording it and making a vid declaring demo is op lol
Samppazi 2 months ago
Yeah, don't use that demo uber to get the intel; use it to spawncamp!
thomasw011 2 months ago
no dont fuck the spy i own people with him :D
cjthegreat10 2 months ago
cock rocketing or spamming sticky bombs like demo and solider... or the nearly unhitable scout and his BS 1 shot scattergun are all OP.. spy is a skillfull play.. not to mention u didn't cover Pyro.... pyro can jsut Spray to win...
Balfourism 2 months ago
rly, ur camping and counting kills on CTF!?
with demo man.
ur retarded
alrex96 2 months ago
@alrex96 First of all, he IS stupid. But you are worse, you are basicly just copying a comment and have a bad grammar. But the worst part is you're just doing it for thumbs up.
DatCookeh 2 months ago
Real men play Demopan.
ForgeMyLife 2 months ago
when i play spy i make 9 year old kids rage quit :D by shootin and faceknifeing them :D
monster75605 2 months ago
hey look, almost 1337 comments! XD
goldenbluelighting 2 months ago
@goldenbluelighting too bad the vid itself isnt 1337 :/
lordbryanz 1 month ago
Patched LOL
Mrgameproof 2 months ago
you guys need to stop we all now its oviously......PYRO :D
unknownkiller00 2 months ago
I think the PYRO is overpowered... I killed 23 people in 3 minutes. >8U
ToughLucario 2 months ago
@ToughLucario By myself... :3
ToughLucario 2 months ago
The game is balanced and skill is king, nuff said
xOzone69 2 months ago
You know what is the most overpowered? Yep, its teamwork. All classes are definitely balanced imo. Just get an uber medic if spawn camper demo persists. Pyro is also a huge counter to spy(but kinda screwed now because of the spycicle which is a bad idea)
1irocksforeva 2 months ago
Spawn camping demo v soldier running around their spawn v shit scout v even shittier spy
scout739 2 months ago
I love that you're counting kills.... on a CTF style game mode. Good job.
maxibunny 2 months ago 23
the fact that u dont know how to play 1 class dont make it weak or overpower the other its just lack of skill from u, i know a lot of great spyes and a couple of scouts that can beat that number.
one thing its for shure soilder its the easiest calss to play BUT its the one that u have moar space to improove. same witht demo
pots1121 2 months ago
When you lag spike my youtube reloads lol
200KID 2 months ago
the spy used to suck, until he took a dead ringer to the knee
sixten2100 2 months ago
Im sorry but the spy is the gretaest class in my opnion :D
powercool4 2 months ago
spys the hardest class by far any old guy can spawn camp with demo
Randommonkeygamer 2 months ago
In my opinion scout is made for objectives not kills.
OrangeJuicePanda 2 months ago
PYRO IS SP... OVERPOWERD!!!!!
122thedude 2 months ago
pyro is overpowered .... THE END
theaaakm 2 months ago
I hate demoman so much because they just spam stickies and grenades everywere
hartagrm 2 months ago
and those guys are seriously the biggest noobs i've ever seen :(
gisibah 2 months ago
this video may be the main cause of the crit system change o_O
gisibah 2 months ago
I reckon none of the classes are overpowered. All classes clan kill all other classes with ease of played correctly.
theblueorange4177 2 months ago
2Fort is probably one of the top three easiest maps to spawn camp.
TheWookiepower 2 months ago
If you think all classes at overpowered dosent that mean that you suck at the game?
joeldeak 2 months ago
Soldier: Learn to spam
Demoman: Learn to spam more
Scout: WHY U FIGHT SOLDIER?!
Spy: when do spys ever learn to use their gun?!
TeleFRAGG 2 months ago
@TeleFRAGG spies* use their gun to fight off players from a great range if the player is at low health.a sniper with the razorback can't be backstabbed, so if you want to kill him, then revolver is the way.
HiImSuan 2 months ago
yep u are a smart demo, an experienced demoman usually use sticky instead gernade launcher :/
TheLegend430 2 months ago
what about sniper,pyro,heavey,engie,medic?
GENNAVISOIN 2 months ago
x.x back then spies could facestab all day Dx shoulda used spy with his main weapon x.x
elmoenigma 2 months ago
"if i was a demo i wolda FUCKED them up" if you were a demo and that pyro knows something called "airblast" wich can be a good weapon, you "woulda FUCKED yourself"
konthexIII 3 months ago
Lol
Spawn camping demo
4 rockets to kill one guy with soldier (teleporters dont count btw you dick)
No skill scout
Spy? Over powered?
Oh god my sides
Also dont use fucking FPS drops as an excuse because thats just stupid
nessnes64 3 months ago
scout is not overpowerd
AreabattlerSkillsNL 3 months ago
:no:
TheActionCupcake 3 months ago
derp all you do is spawn camp with the demo man, course your gonna rack up kills. bad player is bad.
MrAber28 3 months ago 48
@MrAber28 Man you talk like a COD player.
MrJarante 1 month ago
you suck at tf2 lol
cheesebob799 3 months ago
well when your spawn camping...
iHasPancakez 3 months ago
in all honesty, it's kind of unfair to say the demoman is the best when you got ubercharged during the test, everclass when ubered gets a sudden killstreak
WulvPawz 3 months ago
i thinks scouts are overpowered because they get 4 guns in the fist slot and do a heck load of damage
and the 2nd slot is fine
BUT the 3rd slot is WAY powered because he can shot a ball...AND STUN YOU
with the sandman :l i play as pyro ^^
Diddleflip329 3 months ago
@Diddleflip329 Well they have no hp as it, sandman is a one hit thats it things WITH -15 hp
bunneh2 3 months ago
wtf weres the heavy
blockman1991 3 months ago
@blockman1991 heavies are too slow to be actually overpowered, you just hit and run....or snipe....or backstab
which is much easier since he's so big and slow
WulvPawz 3 months ago
@WulvPawz Depends if you're talking about stock Heavy, or the dreaded tomivichgru heavy. Free 150HP at will, basically instant revving of a weapon that outdamages every other weapon in the game that isn't also held by a Heavy, and free pyro/engineer/sniper/spy speed with use of GRU hopping.
hawkeye611 3 months ago
@hawkeye611 tomislav deals less damage than the stock minigun and brass beast. what part of fires slower is confusing?
sakisakasan 2 months ago
@sakisakasan A miniscule downside on the tomislav for a huge upside. The difference in time it takes to kill an overhealed Heavy is less than a tenth of a second for much better ability to ambush, essentially immunity to ambushes, and greater combat mobility.
When you have such fast spin-up time, you have no need for a shotgun, hence medium healthpacks on demand is the best choice, and GRU lets you run at pyro speed for no downside thanks to GRU hopping.
hawkeye611 2 months ago
@hawkeye611 you have no idea how damage works, do you?
sakisakasan 2 months ago
@sakisakasan Actually, I do. But explain to me what's wrong with my statement please.
hawkeye611 2 months ago
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@sakisakasan "outdamages every other weapon in the game that isn't also held by a Heavy" name a weapon that can out dps a tomislav thats not headshot dependent or wielded by the heavy please.
EbonMaster 2 months ago
that's not overpowered, the opponents just suck
Guillotine2084 3 months ago
Spy is most overpowered because of the power of the dead ringer and the enternal reward
TheJasonn444 3 months ago
U don't know how to use spy
TheJasonn444 3 months ago
you suck at spy.......
TheKarsonator 3 months ago
Spawncamper noob D:
methdt50 3 months ago
Soldier has the most potential of all the classes in TF2. The ability to fly through the air and strife while raining hell down on all around you while almost being untouchable is pretty "OP". But all the classes in TF2 have the potential to be very dangerous. But if I really had to choose, it would be soldier
SpitfireMLP 3 months ago
Soldier and demoman ARE completely overpowered. Replay the soldier video and see the ridiculous number of crit rockets you got. Soldiers and demos ruin the game because they are so OP. The main problem with soldiers and demos is it is impossible to avoid being killed by a good soldier or demo. They can spam so much and their attacks have huge areas, and their criticals are 1-shots.
doug65536 3 months ago
good*
OniLODSamuraiFan 3 months ago
Classes arn't overpowered. In the end it all boils down to two factors. What class you are facing and skill. Soldier and Demoman are god at straight up fights but Scout is more prefered for infiltrating the base and taking the flag and running as far as they can. In combat they are only good against say spy, sniper, medic, or other scouts. As for spy's simply put it's best played if you don't go down the main front line of combat and backstab primarily
OniLODSamuraiFan 3 months ago
Theres no such thing as overpowered classes. Only skilled players.
WastedPlants 3 months ago
your other team's retarded.. one of them should have went pyro and air blasted those stickies right back to you
HOLYDSFA 3 months ago
Every class takes skill. I myself only call the classes that I can't play for shit (Sniper, Spy, Pyro, Demoman) cheap
jedimasterpickle3 3 months ago
pyro is OP
GeneralSchultz 3 months ago
Scout is not overpowered. Pepole can't handle leading their target a little. It is a tie between Pyro, Demo, and Soldier for me.
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LISTENORELSE 3 months ago
Soldier: crap at shooting from far away due to slow shots, pretty average overall and beaten when another class is in its advantageous situation.
Scout: Low hp, not very great weaponry, bad in closed areas.
Demo: Not to good in direct firefights, shots dont go fast enough to hit unless direct
Spy: Once revealed they basically /will/ die unless they escape or start knifing.
MrSamuel745 3 months ago
@MrSamuel745 Thats why you rocket jump to them on soldier, you dont have to be in long range. Scouts upclose do massive damage with their shotgun, being able to run around your target helps too. Demo does kinda suck close range unless your good at direct pipes, they do a ton of damage just hard to aim. Spy has the dead ringer, If you need to escape activate it, you now take 90% less damage until decloak. I have chased down spys with pyro flaming them for 10 seconds before they died
dlock5050 3 months ago
BUT if you ask me what class i feel is easiest I would say soldier. I dont like to play him, hes to easy I like a challenge. You can spray rockets out so fast at their feet that he almost does the most damage the quickest of any class, while damaging others in the area. Then his speed isn't a factor because you can rocket jump into range and blast them before they can do anything. Just shoot 1 rocket while in air to disorient them and another when you land and their dead.
dlock5050 3 months ago
>Got accusations of OP from SPUF of all places
>Demoman
>OP
>2fort
>Spawncamps
>Ubercharges out the ass
>Random crits
Oh you.
EveOracle 3 months ago
Then the other big deciding factor is WHERE you use the class. A sniper or demo can completey lock down a corner (kill any class) but once in the open the enemies sporadic movements can throw them off easy and they lose the advantage. Heavys can rock anything up close and around corners but for long distance will get shot down. Pyros need to run up close on you while spys run up close behind you. Soldiers need medium to short range, and become a powerhouse if they trap someone in a enclosed area
dlock5050 3 months ago
You can tell which classes are easier to play then others but to compare which are overpowerd would be much harder. A big part of it is what class against what class. Snipers can get rocked by spys and scouts, while scouts can get rocked by soldiers and the heavy. The heavy needs to fear spys and snipers, while spys should be scared of pyros and scouts. Demo can do a lot but should watch out for snipers and pryos (air blast).
dlock5050 3 months ago
Now its really fucking easy to do well with Soldier but really hard to do well with spy now that people are really good at spotting and looking for them.
MormonsAreDumb 3 months ago
1:06 Demoman is on beat.
SMP9909 3 months ago
What's with the shitty house music?
MrMoomington 3 months ago
Spamming Stickies, Denial of Acces with stickybombs, And spawncamping are three different things, the Demoman was made to set traps with their stickybombs, not allowing enemies to get to somewhere sucessfuly, with great defensive purpose, and using their grenades to not just wash out groups of enemies, sentries, but also to get enemies to stop hiding in places.
Fefo762 3 months ago
He has heard complains you guys
Maverik772 3 months ago
Spy is not easy at all. You have to be pretty good at every class. Thats why i hate F2P's playing spy. They usually suck.
PurpleFirePF 3 months ago
@PurpleFirePF Um... Duh? It's their first time playing the game? I'm F2P and have been playing for a week, and I f*** people up as The Spy and The Scout.
Now as the sniper on the other hand...
ExplodingMummies 3 months ago
Seriously guys please stop replying about my comment, I get it, spy is NOT easy, I had to do something so I just typed that up through my experience with that class, SO STOP REPLYING ABOUT THE SPY.
BCprinnyfan 3 months ago
heres how i think it is the 3 classes with the most potential are the spy, scout, and pyro. they are just much harder to use than other classes and take alot of practice heavy has a low potential but is really easy to use other ones are inbetween
Mrnentendoman 3 months ago
those ppl are total noobs you're playing with...
TheDragonborne 3 months ago
DUDE U JUST PLAY GOOD ITS NOT OVER POWERD
TheRoyoboyo 3 months ago
Dangit, will people stop commenting about my comment!?
BCprinnyfan 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan NO! You expressed your opinion on the internet and now suffer the wrath of others.
MondoMiniman 3 months ago
You use the same tactics with all of your classes, of course you're gonna get different results.
newbzoors 3 months ago
wow, you kinda suck with scout... A really good scout is an awesome force
Lexusjjss 3 months ago
Spy isnt easy u have to try to dodge everyone that walks the opposite way because if u hit someone of other team they cant walk trough ya so theyl kill u
MrMiyori 3 months ago
The heavy is probably overpowered at the bridge on 2fort. I usually retreat if i'm a pyro when that happens.
arekkuzandaa 4 months ago
you kept counting after you died for the demoman, between 13 and 14
kingroflcopterz 4 months ago
I dont find any class is overpowered, Demos are very lethal yes, but also tricky to use. The soldiers rocket launcher is poweful yes, but slow as fuck, and constantly going through painfully slow reloads and is quite likely to kill you rather than the enemy. you would be beter served to practice and master some classes than whine about the injustices you perveive as holding you back.
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BCprinnyfan 4 months ago 10
@BCprinnyfan
Pyro: Airblast and PuffnSting takes no skill anymore since the updates.
Demoman: Complete noob class unless you use Demoknight or Loch n Load
Heavy: Needs actually to be very smart and clever. (Unless with the tomifuck off course)
Sniper: Takes not any skill anymore since bodyshooting is alot more effecient, thanks to the Machina, Sidney Sleeper, 150 HP full charges... (Should be around 90 or such)
That are just my opinions...
KingBrookfield 4 months ago
@KingBrookfield The Demoman takes some skill with the default sticky-bomb launcher mainly when you're using the bombs like grenades.
Oh, and what skill does heavy need? normally when I'm using him I just fire away, not tricky at all. The bullet spread is massive, so not much aiming, and all he can really do is fire away and be a meat shield, even with the GRU or the Sandvich. Although he does become crazy with an ubercharge, but that's only in wide areas filled with enemies.
BCprinnyfan 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan
Using the stickylauncher offensive is easy as fuck, no skill is needed at all...
KingBrookfield 3 months ago
@KingBrookfield Have you tried juggling a guy with 10k HP in Hale mode using it? I guess I based the skill needed off of that...
BCprinnyfan 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan
Spy easy?
... Well thanks buddy, you just made me laugh to death.
DarkBonesDaku 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan That list is pretty bad.
aquason11 3 months ago
@aquason11 Well, it just depends on your opinion. That's my opinion, and nothing else. Really, the classes are extremely well balanced if you considered everyone in mind.
BCprinnyfan 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan agreed with everything but spy!
silencedknight 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan the reason im never medic, everyone aims for me first, i mean once, there was like 10 heavies behind me, and a scout, he runs back shooting at only me! then worries about heavies that kill him anyway, but i understand, with the whole uber thing and medic is important for a team, but still, its annoying sometimes
insertrandomnamenow 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan Sniper is hard, "just being able to aim" is difficult. Spy requires a lot of practice to not get spotted, and to have perfect timing for decloaking then stab, since decloak isnt instant
Wetily 3 months ago
@Wetily Agreed. Or maybe I just have horrible aim with a Sniper rifle.
ExplodingMummies 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan Just pointing out, it really depends on heavy, if you can position yourself right; but he's still fairly easy to play. Now with spy, spy is a lot harder depending on if you want killstreak or such, hes easy to play if you get one kill and die but if you get per say more than 10 backstabs then it gets challenging from the pyros :) (and also when their team starts to get paranoid :L).
ExplosiveSteel 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan spy easy? spy's freakin hard
epicflyingtaco 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan Spies are easy but to get like a bunch of kills in one life, thweyre pretty darn hard.
VermillionDX 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan Spy :Don:t bump into people
pacman4d 3 months ago
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@BCprinnyfan I don't think I have met someone as stupid as you, no.
RobloxSodaTeam 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan I disagree with spy. Maybe if a bunch of noobs got together in a game the spy would have the most points, but in a game where people actually know to spycheck and stuff like that, spy easily becomes the most skillful class in the game. It all depends on the teams.
jjjmanyo 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan This is all variable depending on the opponent's skill level. Spy becomes harder as opponents are much better at spy check.
Demoman can be easily countered with a pyro if he has skill.
Although, heavy is easy whatsoever as long as you have an eye on your health and make sure you don't get backstabbed.
TheMattgician 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan Random:?
HitmanReborn9999 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan
Spy isn't easy. You have to rely on the other team to make mistakes and then use and abuse it.
And although Soldier is a easy to being with class, it takes skill to master his use.
I agree with, Heavy...just hold down m1...
Xndtwo 3 months ago
@BCprinnyfan
All classes require insane skill to be elite. Otherwise, they're easily killed and countered by other classes.
Elite players of any class are elite. Even medics and Engineers - they almost guarantee winning rounds.
You'll note the difference between a good heavy and an elite heavy when one racks up ALL the kills AND defeats other hw's with ease.
Spies are probably the hardest to use, since they're haevily dependent on gear... timely aggression and risktaking is necessary to be good
kyonist 3 months ago 13
@kyonist Yes, I get it. That's just my opinion. I get emails about replies on this comment practically every two hours, and it's really annoying... I can use spies pretty easily since most of my enemies are stupid, anyways.
BCprinnyfan 3 months ago
@kyonist i dont think spy is the hardest to use. harder than some to be sure, but i would argue pyro is the hardest, because it still has the elements of timing and judgement spy requires but you also need good reflexes, timing for airblasts, and aim and good parkour can come in handy too (although i suppose that applies for all classes)
spoonalisk 3 months ago
@kyonist most of what you said is true, but the risk taking for the spy. i play spy quite often, and i get a sufficient amount of kills when the opponent makes a stupid mistake, such as not spy checking, or afking in the middle of no where. I also get kills off of distracted players. The easiest way to get a scout, for example, is to have him distracted by one of your teammates. risk taking is necessary to be an elite spy, but a good one won't need it.
HiImSuan 2 months ago
@kyonist you say elite to much
hubuhubudingdong2 2 months ago
Demos arn't over powered, They're just good at their job :) Denial of Access with sticky bombs, Simple.
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QtipRocketLauncher 4 months ago
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hl2mukkel 4 months ago
It's called being good at a class.
michaelhearit 4 months ago
why do retards say the game is all about hats?
KennyMatthewsMonster 4 months ago
playing against noobs and spawn camping. thats sum vari nais exaplez you got ther
mrsslein 4 months ago