@ellenw1881 in order to believe in spanking, you are forced to form various sub beliefs that cannot be measured and cannot be proven or disproven. because if you were forced to face the facts, you would not be pro spanking. so i think that is why many pro spankers have the belief that they are the only ones who can properly strike a child. years ago, many people used to argue the same thing about hitting wives. "I don't abuse my wife.I properly chastise her." Get to reading and then respond.
@ellenw1881 in that last sentence, they would not do it is supposed to mean many parents. i noticed you also gave the rationalization of this video shows abusive parents, no wonder people disagree with spanking. thats a popular pro spanking argument. pro spankers believe that they are the ones who hit properly. its all those other people that give spanking a bad name. your opinion that you are the only one that can handle it is a dime a dozen.
@ellenw1881 if you choose to ignore these results, and say "i dont care that a vast majority of researchers and doctors that dedicate their careers to child related issues have shown that its harmful. im smarter than everyone else. im going to take the risk and hit my child. if they have problems because of it, then oh well." if you choose to do that, its not ok to grasp for straws to make it ok in your mind. if there was a 5 percent change that spanking could cause issues, they would not do it.
@ellenw1881 plus, it sounds like you are pretty desperate to find someone who agrees with you so you can latch onto their opinion and use it to try to validate your pathetic attempt at showing that spanking is a toss up issue that researchers cant make up their mind about. i have studied hundreds of published papers on this, and over 90 percent show that its harmful. that is an astounding percentage for any social science issue.save your dilluted opinions for issues that are actually a toss up.
@ellenw1881 i mean a simple google search would tell you a lot on this issue. the most comprehensive study in recent years that i have seen is the tulane pediatric study. look it up. i know of very few credible studies that have mentioned anything you said as true. the biggest pro spanker i know of is the religious nut dr. james dobson. but it makes no difference. if you still do not understand that evolution occurred, im betting research and reading is not one of your hobbies.
@ellenw1881 your statement that i am incorrect that spanking has been proven harmful was nothing more than your opinion. if you had looked into the issue at all, you wouldnt have made that statement, so that is your problem not mine. thousands of studies have found direct links between spanking and long term consequences for children. maybe your definition of harmful is really unique. i have always been taught that if something has a negative effect on someone than it is harmful.
@ellenw1881 You have some interesting statements, but fairly typical pro spanking remarks. you have gone with the ole spanking is a huge gray area so we should just agree to disagree. some doctors say yes, some doctors say no, therefore its fine to spank. but its nothing more than a pathetic way to justify your actions. there is no gray area here. another strategy you used is to try to manipulate the meaning of what I said to discredit me, thus somehow showing that spanking is fine.
This is so frustrating to me, because I believe in spanking. I think the people who don't make valid arguments, I just lean more towards pro spanking. However, this is what the public sees. No wonder they don't believe in spanking. This was abuse. This is nothing like what I see as spanking. I was "spanked" until I had welts and bruises from belts and stuff. That's not spanking. That's abuse. They really shouldn't be publicizing this so much. Everyone will be afraid to spank after watching this
You call that child abuse? When I was 4 ( I'm Indian) if I did anything wrong my dad he would get a wooden rod and spank me so hard and he was very strong sometimes he didn't use the rod and he just beat the shit out of me cause when he was a kid he would take a lot of calcium witch made his bones super thick and hard and my black friend back at his old school if you didn't do your homework the kids would keep you down while the teacher whipped you hard with a belt
@TheMrEmJay You have to understand. I know people have been abused 5,000,000,000,0000 times worse even then what you are talking about. That doesn't mean that you weren't abused. Just like because your case was more severe, it doesn't mean this wasn't abuse. There will always be something worse, I promise.
@Rinsuki I am well aware of abuse but I am not going to buy into this "fine line" between abuse and spanking where no one can ever logically articulate where spanking becomes abuse. It's great to have opinions, but the debate on spanking was over years ago, it's been PROVEN harmful. You're trying to use your illogical opinion to justify yourself and I don't know who you think that will benefit. I always encourage reading up on issues, not spouting opinions gotten from your parents.
@omgtaylorswift01 incorrect. I have gone back and forth. I see both sides of the argument. One thing I can tell you is that it has absolutely not been proven harmful. That is just a blatant lie. It really doesn't help your side of the argument. That's like people who say "evolution has been proven" wtf? when? you can't just spew stuff like that. many people have written in official documents that it has been proven and also that it has been disproven. That doesn't mean it is the official stance
@stonemetallica That is a DOCTOR! It is a doctor profession. Doctors are ALL different. Some are medical and some are emotional. But it is a doctor by degree-
People don't know how to verbally discipline. Meaning you actually explain to your kids what they are doing wrong. Parents make the mistake of not pointing out what the child is doing wrong and how they can change it. Spanking is not abuse! Abuse is when you vent your anger out and hitting to feel good rather then a quick slap on the butt to tell them you will not condone such a behavior. She is just hitting her child to break it's will. That is abuse.
If I'm mad, I don't spank my girls....I have to remember they're kids and you can't ":get" them for every little thing otherwise they'll fear the world.
@PCUlzzang Exactly, iam married to a Thai woman, her mom is VERY strict and beat alot BUT 3 of her 4 kids have recieved their graduation diplomas from the royal family. So i guess her strict way of raising kids sure paid of. iam white and iam so sick of whiteys letting their kids do anything without ever getting beat
The reason spanking doesn't work is because its negative reinforcement. Children are like puppies. You reward them for good behaviors. Gentlely correct unwanted behaviors, and be an authority figure, but never hurt of dominant them.
@breyercrazy789 Spanking doesn't work but neither does positive reinforcement with rewards. This makes them materialistically dependent for good behavior whereas you want them to be able to function independently of fear and materials. Both these methods will not work unless you talk to your children. Explain why you are punishing them, what will happen next time they act in such a way again, and what they can do to avoid the same punishment next time.
How many times do we have to explain parents that corporal punishment is NEVER working! The kid gets used to it and only learns to associate love with violence. And it's no wonder these kids are out of control when you see how the mother talks to them: "You're mean to me!" with that tone, as if she was talking to one of her girlfriends. Those a re kids, you're role is to EDUCATE them!!!! God, some people shouldn't be parents....
...it's a lot of work to raise children and they're all diffrent...some people really need to think really hard about who they are, what baggage they may have, before they have kids..there is nothing wrong with never having children...it is not a necessity, even tho sometimes it seems like it because almost everyone has them, but think how much better it could be in so many cases...
im afraid to say tht i witnessed worse when i was a child. my friend used to get beaten so bad..
i guess in the environment tht im living in made it seem normal. thts why im surprise to see tht this women has gone over the limit when i've seen worse.
Okay, look, I was spanked as a child and I could only hope that I ended up fine. But, this! This is child abuse! She's corrupting her children. Pathetic, spineless moron!
did you all here about this woman she got arrested after this show after sickening parents called the police she is being charged with misdemetor child abuse but her defense was she made this all up to be on dr.phill's
This is real child abuse, not pouring some hot sauce in your kid's mouth. Yeah, both methods of discipline suck, but both mothers went on the show to change and improve...I don't get how hot sauce mom almost got 180 days.
Because it wasn't just hot sauce (as if that wasn't bad enough). Did you hear the screams of terror from that poor little boy when she forced him to stand in the cold shower? If that wasn't abuse, then I don't know what is.
"Boo hoo, I lack all appropriate parenting skills..." It's not that hard to find alternative methods for discipline and monitoring your children. GOOOOOOD FUCKING LUCK getting your children to alter their behavior NOW, bitch.
why have you got 3 kids when you're obviously not able to handle them? I mean, "let's get another baby, yeah great let's do that".... what goes through the minds of women like this? STOP having kids if you can't handle the first one!
those kids need to live with someone else who can discipline them correctly not by using excessive force.. who kicks their kids??? she's a lazy mother who doesn't take the time for her kids..so sad.
Here in France when I was I kid if I talked back to a teacher I would get smacked across the face. At home if I did not obey and be respectful to my parents I would get smacked. I have gotten smacked across the face with a stick, a belt, a wooden paddle. Americans don't get how we can "abuse" kids. But its not ! By the way, I am out of lycee passed my bac and I am very respectful to my elders. American kids are screwed over.
@loveandpeacepluslife I think u missed the point.. Not just a smack but she's wants to beat them UNCONSCIOUS!! Did we watch the same video? By screaming & hitting them out of frustration, teaches them to do the same resulting in more bad behavior. It's a vicious cyle. The mom is brave to admit the problem & seek skills to change. Parenting skills have evolved, why hit if there constructive ways to discpline? American kids are not screwed, the french are just ignorant & arrogant!
What a bitch, you dont just "lose it" and then that, and that, and all of the sudden you hit the kid. No, you make the choice to hit your child, you always have a choice, you dont have something inside you that just takes over your body, its you.
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I grew up getting spanked and I have had red marks left on me for an hour or two. I got spanked A LOT. I deserved every single one of the spankings. However, I was never bruised and never hit with a closed fist. I've been spanked with belts and tree branches (those are the worst), open hands, and fly swatters. I never did the same thing over and over, although I may get in to trouble for different reasons, I never got spanked for doing the EXACT same thing as before lol. I am grateful for it.
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the bruises are way tooo much, but those kids have shitty behavior and should act better, a smack here and there will make them think "oh, that hurt better not do it again" unless they have mental/learning disabitlites...
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spanking ok. yelling along with it, not a good idea, that just makes them not listen, and the spanking is to get their attention, getting them to listen.this mother takes it too far. but there is nothing wrong with a spanking.
i think they dont want to havekids, but they got it by mistake and nor there own kids r a burden for them. So whene evr they r angry or stress out' they hit there kids.... THEY SHOULD KNOW HOW TO CONTROL THEMSELF...
As a parent they need to chose their battles.... Poor kids and I hope the parents get serious help...I don't understand how a person can be so enraged ... wow how scary poor kids and I hope they get HELP!
my mom was spanked and is now scared for life...i've seen my grandmother once in my life because they just hate eachother...people be smart-love your children and with conversation and kindness you can achive everything. I was never touched in a bad way by my parents and i respect them soo much and i'm an A student and everything. Belive me violence is NEVER the answer. I don't have a child of my own so i don't know how hard it is,bt i know from my mom that it can all be ok without hitting. :)
I agree that many kids are sorely lacking in discipline. However, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of spanking because it's much to easy for me to picture a parent losing their temper and hitting much *too* hard.
You'll notice that people who say they turned out fine are operating on the premise that being obedient to authority figures is the measuring stick of being a good person. This is a confession of underdeveloped moral reasoning skills. Any parent who spanks their kid is actually proving that they deserved to be disrepected, and could learn a thing or two from looking in the damn mirror. But abusers by definition blame the victims. It is always the fault of the person who has no power.
@Fathoms2004 Dude, I was spanked and I turned out fine and I've always said "fuck the system", I've always gone against the norm, and I will always will. woe the person who thinks they can give me direct orders, etc. At least the spankings got me out of bad influences and I never smoked nor used drugs nor started drinking at eleven like ALOT of my classmates did at that time. I'm not all for spanking because it does create a sort of tension, but a swat on a covered butt isn't mean, nor abuse.
no one is making neone have kids. if u have kids, u owe it to them to not pass down ur ignorant shit that u blindly accepted from ur parents. if u intend to hurt a child, do the world a favor and dont have kids so the earth can have less morons. we really need government intervention on this issue.
there r many problems n the world. why r people wanting to compound them by pleading for more violence toward kids. it depresses me when i read people say there is a difference between spanking and abuse, spanking is ok if done correctly, some kids need to be spanked, and 'i' was spanked and turned out fine. why do we need to justify stupid behavior?
@omgtaylorswift01 There is a fine line between that and abuse. Everyone uses the term abuse freely these days that the meaning is lost. Do you even know what abuse is and have you seen the victims of abuse? Parents can take it too far sometimes, but stop using the word abuse like it's candy or something.
Spanking is a way to discipline your child it helps them but only when its necessary as in if they continue to do something after the parent telling them to stop several times. Beating your child/children like this mother does has the chance to turn their kids into criminals or abusers in the future
you can't just spank your kids and expect it to be fixed. you have to spank your kids in the right time and right manner, to show them why they are wrong but also to show them love. if you're asian, you'll know what i mean. i was discipline as a kid and it has helped me alot and i know that my parents did it cause they love me. like i said, you have to know when to discipline your kids but also show that you are doing it for there own good.
@lucirz I know what you mean and I am asian and was disciplined. I guess asian parents are different. Mine didn't hit me because I cut into their "me" time or because they didn't want me. These people use the term abuse so much it's nauseating. Spanking doesn't equal abuse unless you are hitting only to break that child's will down instead of teaching them something.
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Everything this mom does to her children in this video has happened to me ten times worse, yet there is a reason why my punishment doesnt scar me and isnt considered abuse and theirs scars them and is considered abuse: THEYRE FRIKIN BABIES! I mean,when i was a kid I got slapped, yelled at, etc, but it is DEFINETLY not Okay to do that to kids that young, especially out of anger! I hope god will help her children and her through this rough time....
I was spanked when I was a kid, but it was always a last resort, and I always knew why I had gotten spanked. People shouldn't discipline children when they are angry.
It's just so sad that some people think this is discipline still, see? THIS is the problem with america. It's full of ignorant people who deep down inside, enforce voilence without even really meaning to.
Lol, in America it seems like a couple of spankings is abuse. Then you should see how Asian parents discipline their kids and their kids turn out to be pretty darn good and successful and TAKE CARE of their parents when they are old.
@leilyhaddad I am actually from Asia, and while yes there are asian parents who discipline their children through physical things, actually its more verbal now days. But the difference is, the parents mean what they say, and they do expect the rules to be followed. These american parents just don't really enforce anything fully and frankly they dont often do what they preach anyways.
No offense to american parents, not all are like that, I am speaking for a minority.
@MelodiesStrawberrii LOL, I am from Asia! I'm not a non-Asian pointing out how strict the Asians are. I have been smacked, slapped and sometimes even pinched and I don't blame nobody but me. LOL. I agree, Asian parents usually mean what they say and this is especially true for Chinese parents because of their culture/tradition and their belief of filial piety. But tbh, it's not just Americans that are like this, loads of Asians are now starting to follow their ways and the kids become brats.
@leilyhaddad Actually, I am asian as well, so I dont appreciate you trying to sneak in a little rude comment as if I dont know what I'm talking about because I just didn't mention I am asian, so please, spare me the little snide remarks please.
Appearently we just have different views and different things we have seen.
@Lboogie06 spanking teaches respect? a trusted authority hitting a small child to inflict pain is teaching respect? the more licks u get means the more respect ur learning? is there any reputable child psychologist n the world that would support ur absurd argument?
it depends between discipline and abuse. if you're to the point where you're leaving bruises, welts, o even scars then that goes beyond discipline and abuse, you're just fucking OD'ing.
i belive in a slap thats it if you scream at your kids and hurt them then discipline wont work i also belive in the opposite such as the corner and time out
i was spanked as a kid, but never to the point where it left marks. it was just one or two smacks on the butt with an open hand, mostly just to get me to stop acting out or being disrespectful not to seriously hurt me. my parents also used other methods, like grounding and having to do everyones chores for a certain period of time, unlike this lady who seems to just smack her kids around because shes upset that theyre not behaving perfectly all the time
I'm for physical discipline, but recently I heard some experts say not all kids react the same way to some actions. Such events can become traumatic to a young kid.
You have to admire her honesty, if nothing else. Many parents in similar situations aren't honest about the abuse and let it get completely out of hand.
i have a lot of opinions about this. i personally think that there is a difference than spanking and abuse. however, i also have decided that i wont spank kids when i grow up because it is often out of pure anger or frustration. but kids definitely need to learn discipline and respect, so i think i will use time out when i have kids.
My mom punished me really hard when I at that age.. Like that, only not with a belt. But she really yelled, clocked me in a room, grabbed me in the arm etc..
I think the problem with america today is the lack of discipline .... They try to be their best friends and nothing else. I got spanked and it didn't mess me up .... As long as its not violent and with an open palm (just a little swat) and that's it. I don't believe in using the belt ... or other objects to hit or punish your child (b/c I think that crosses the line) but a little spank on the butt is ok.
TIME OUT!! are u serious.. u dont need to fight them like a stranger in the street but yea whip their ass if they get out line... then the world wont be full of paris hilton's and other spoil brats thats disrespectful
Oh come on. When I was like 5-13, my dad would take a 2x4 and make me pull down my pants and smack the shit out of me with it. I still remember to this day as the most fear I have ever felt, but it helped me learn respect for my elders as well as knowing when NOT TO CROSS THE FUCKING LINE
This is the perfect way to parent your children if you want them to grow up to hate you, their father, themselves and have no concept of healthy discipline. If you can't take care of your children responsibly, then send them to someone who can take care of them properly! These are children for fuck's sake. Boo hoo, your kid has a tantrum, what happened to having them sit in the corner for a time out?
My mom used to do this. She would scream, spank me, hit me, slap me, even drag me by my hair. So much as spanking your kids is wrong in my eyes. What good do you get out of psychically punishing them? Also, teachers have NO right to ever put their hands on a kid. If I ever found out a teacher hit my child, It wouldn't be pretty.
my parents were spanked too and they become nice intelligent people. I got spanked maybe two times in my life and I am ok, I have no depression. come on! giving a little spank is not the same thing as beating up a child. But I think that some evil kids need a good kick in their butt to learn respect. because I noticed many children becoming selfish and aggressive towards adults and other kids. if negociation does not work... what else should you do then?
its wrong to generalize that spanking doesnt work. but its also wrong to beleive that it works on all children. the majority of children can be diciplened by spanking, but all kids are different. and another thing, no matter what discepline method you use, use it early on, and dont spoil them. everybody hates brats
Teachers should not spank kids. However, I learned many-a-lesson from spanking when I was little and I think that as long as the parents can control themselves and do not go overboard, spanking is okay in moderation.
I discipline my daughter by carrying her upside-down to her room, which I make her clean. (Cleaning requirement scaled appropriately to the situation).
It does no harm to her, she hates it, and it gets a rather needed job done.
There's a difference between spanking and beating, as many have said. There are parents who take it way too far, out of stress and anger. I feel bad for this woman. Yes, her techniques are far too extreme, and her children could do with some consistent discipline -- when they're that ill behaved it's because they have become aggressive and think they have more control than she does. In a way they do. Her husband needs to make a more active role and help, too, so that they're a united front.
Every child is unique. There is NO one punishment system that will work for every child. Spankings worked for my daughter, but not for my son. If used, spankings should NEVER be done while angry and also should only be used on the most serious of offenses. If a child receives a spanking too often, the punishment will lose it's effect.
My kids are 13 and 17 and neither have received a spanking in about 10 years, they simply haven't deserved one, but I wouldn't hesitate if they did.
Only uneducated people use physical discipline. For example everyone employed at a home depo near where I live all think hitting (abusing) children will make children better disciplined.
I don't think there is anything wrong with spanking, but there is a difference between spanking and ABUSE. I wasn't spanked very often as a young child because I learned after one or two times. My mother never spanked me, she always "used her words" and I walked all over her. My father ruled with an iron hand and now that I'm an adult I respect him 100%. I don't believe in taking it too far, or using it as a first resort but I dont rule it out entirely either.
@Sarah99ification I completely agree, my parents would give my brother and i a warning or two then after that we got spanked. If we were acting out in public we went to the bathrooms and got spanked. Now that we're older we joke around about it, but i couldn't respect them more for disciplining us the way they did!
LOL. I got spanked as a kid. It didn't mess me up. It taught me manners and respect. It wasn't out of control beating and it was reserved for worst case scenarios. My dad used the belt. I'm FINE. Never done drugs, made straight A's in school, practicing abstinence, etc. Kids need waaaay more discipline and the problem is that parents today don't know the difference between disciplining their children and punishing them.
Just because you turned out just fine, doesn't mean that spanking your children is a sound form of discipline. There are many more effective ways to administer boundaries for your children, you should never have to lay a hand on them EVER.
@lydianna yea i mean their are so many ways to discipline your children i mean what if your child turns around and hits you then what you know what i mean
@ElricObsession you wouldn't have lived a lot more relaxed as a kid if you were REALLY punished instead of just spanked? like punishment that actually made you feel bad intead of just hurt?
@ElricObsession I was never ever spanked. And i'm fine. I do voluntary work at least 4 hours a week, i have good grades etc. I am a good kid, and i also have discipline and manners. I don't think you need to be spanked to be a good kid.
@girl92love Yes but that is you. You also know that each child has a certain personality that spanking or not spanking might work. You as a parent must figure that out. Since all children can't be nice little angels like yourself growing up, I think spanking is not horrible when circumstances call for it. If there are other ways to discipline by all means do it, but the word abuse has been overused and caused many families to be torn apart.
@ElricObsession you know you could have a nice wife, nice kids, a good job, house a dog WHATEVER and still be fucked up. My mom had all that, now she has nothing. She was spanked when she was a kid.
@ElricObsession:"LOL. I got spanked as a kid. It didn't mess me up. It taught me manners and respect. It wasn't out of control beating and it was reserved for worst case scenarios. My dad used the belt. I'm FINE. Never done drugs, made straight A's in school.. parents today don't know the difference between disciplining their children and punishing them"
Well same here, but except I grew up to be a sociopath, depressed, anti-social, suicidal, bipolar, and want to kill everyone. straight a's..
I was spanked, that's different from abused -"spanking" is a firm pat to the tush to redirect out of control behavior (yes, little guys get out of control too) -belts, hangers, etc., are abuse. On the flip-side of spanking, has anyone heard of Tantrum911? It's this scented stuff that you put under your kid's nose when they start to flip out and it immediately calms them. Sounds crazy, but the scent of it redirects their brain during a tantrum. Good alternative to redirecting while they're young.
when a baby bear steps out of line what does the mama bear do?........put it in time out? i dont spankings bad but i do think hittimg children in the face or hitting them with an object is bad
I know parents that have never raised a hand towards their children yet they have the most aggresive children I have ever encountered. One family isn't even able to take their kids to others homes without a incident occuring. I don't think you should spank if you feel you are losing your control but if a child isn't listening to anything else you may need to try it. If it doesn't work then they need to quit that and try something else.
This lady may want to think about getting a part time job. I have been both stay at home mom and working mom and let me tell you that getting out for a few days a week put a whole new spin on things. It gave me time to get a breather although I was working. I appreciated the time with my kids more while I was working and did learn that working is easier than raising children full time. I didn't realize that until I did start working after having children.
Its one thing to spank but to leave bruises is another. the issue is not really spanking it;s the fact that she has gone too far and now it has become abuse
Teacher used to spank students. Ask your grandparents or, if they are still alive, great-grandparents. They lived. I spank my kids. I have four and sometimes I have to use a belt too. Kids need to be spanked. Kids need to be disciplined. If you don't discipline they won't know the limits in life.
"The belt incident"!? Give me a break. I don't think I know anyone my age who wasn't hit with a belt growing up. What a joke. I hate lawyers who have instilled their over the top child abuse ideals in new age parenting
"The belt incident"!? Give me a break. I don't think I know anyone my age who wasn't hit with a belt growing up. What a joke. I hate lawyers and their who have instilled their over the top child abuse ideals in new age parenting
"The belt incident"!? Give me a break. I don't think I know anyone my age who wasn't hit with a belt growing up. What a joke. I hate lawyers who have instilled their over the top child abuse ideals in new age parenting
Thaats Crazy ! My Mom Used To Hit Me wheen iwas Little &` im Still Aliveee if Had Kidss Like Thaat &` Never Listen to Mee Then Hell Yes ima FuckinG whoop They Ass ! idOnt Get it if Yur kids Are Like This it dOsent Matter if Yuu Hit Them . Yuu Havee to Givee them a Few Chances Warn Them &` Thats it HiT THEM !
the one time i was spanked i was like 6 and my grandma pulled down my pants and bent me over and apparently i looked at her disgusted and yelled 'what are you doing?!' my grandma never did it again.
dam if these were my kids i would beat the shit outta them.....i would keep them in a closet and leave them their for days....giving only time for intermittent harsh beatings....these kids just dont get it. and she is not abusing her kids but she should start to.
Beat all children to near death and they will stop being a problem
@ellenw1881 in order to believe in spanking, you are forced to form various sub beliefs that cannot be measured and cannot be proven or disproven. because if you were forced to face the facts, you would not be pro spanking. so i think that is why many pro spankers have the belief that they are the only ones who can properly strike a child. years ago, many people used to argue the same thing about hitting wives. "I don't abuse my wife.I properly chastise her." Get to reading and then respond.
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@ellenw1881 in that last sentence, they would not do it is supposed to mean many parents. i noticed you also gave the rationalization of this video shows abusive parents, no wonder people disagree with spanking. thats a popular pro spanking argument. pro spankers believe that they are the ones who hit properly. its all those other people that give spanking a bad name. your opinion that you are the only one that can handle it is a dime a dozen.
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@ellenw1881 if you choose to ignore these results, and say "i dont care that a vast majority of researchers and doctors that dedicate their careers to child related issues have shown that its harmful. im smarter than everyone else. im going to take the risk and hit my child. if they have problems because of it, then oh well." if you choose to do that, its not ok to grasp for straws to make it ok in your mind. if there was a 5 percent change that spanking could cause issues, they would not do it.
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@ellenw1881 plus, it sounds like you are pretty desperate to find someone who agrees with you so you can latch onto their opinion and use it to try to validate your pathetic attempt at showing that spanking is a toss up issue that researchers cant make up their mind about. i have studied hundreds of published papers on this, and over 90 percent show that its harmful. that is an astounding percentage for any social science issue.save your dilluted opinions for issues that are actually a toss up.
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@ellenw1881 i mean a simple google search would tell you a lot on this issue. the most comprehensive study in recent years that i have seen is the tulane pediatric study. look it up. i know of very few credible studies that have mentioned anything you said as true. the biggest pro spanker i know of is the religious nut dr. james dobson. but it makes no difference. if you still do not understand that evolution occurred, im betting research and reading is not one of your hobbies.
omgtaylorswift01 1 week ago
@ellenw1881 your statement that i am incorrect that spanking has been proven harmful was nothing more than your opinion. if you had looked into the issue at all, you wouldnt have made that statement, so that is your problem not mine. thousands of studies have found direct links between spanking and long term consequences for children. maybe your definition of harmful is really unique. i have always been taught that if something has a negative effect on someone than it is harmful.
omgtaylorswift01 1 week ago
@ellenw1881 You have some interesting statements, but fairly typical pro spanking remarks. you have gone with the ole spanking is a huge gray area so we should just agree to disagree. some doctors say yes, some doctors say no, therefore its fine to spank. but its nothing more than a pathetic way to justify your actions. there is no gray area here. another strategy you used is to try to manipulate the meaning of what I said to discredit me, thus somehow showing that spanking is fine.
omgtaylorswift01 1 week ago
This is so frustrating to me, because I believe in spanking. I think the people who don't make valid arguments, I just lean more towards pro spanking. However, this is what the public sees. No wonder they don't believe in spanking. This was abuse. This is nothing like what I see as spanking. I was "spanked" until I had welts and bruises from belts and stuff. That's not spanking. That's abuse. They really shouldn't be publicizing this so much. Everyone will be afraid to spank after watching this
ellenw1881 1 week ago
You call that child abuse? When I was 4 ( I'm Indian) if I did anything wrong my dad he would get a wooden rod and spank me so hard and he was very strong sometimes he didn't use the rod and he just beat the shit out of me cause when he was a kid he would take a lot of calcium witch made his bones super thick and hard and my black friend back at his old school if you didn't do your homework the kids would keep you down while the teacher whipped you hard with a belt
TheMrEmJay 1 month ago
@TheMrEmJay It's not a competition. Abuse is abuse.
ginetteginette2 1 month ago
@TheMrEmJay You have to understand. I know people have been abused 5,000,000,000,0000 times worse even then what you are talking about. That doesn't mean that you weren't abused. Just like because your case was more severe, it doesn't mean this wasn't abuse. There will always be something worse, I promise.
ellenw1881 1 week ago
@stonemettalica of he has a doctorate in psychology then he is a doctor of psychology If you have a doctorate then you are a doctor
TheMrEmJay 1 month ago
@stonemetallica That made you look smart, didn't it?
Zewuot 1 month ago
@stonemetallica *giant facepalm*
TheAmbiorixXx 1 month ago
I would no more trust dr Phil's advice than the local witch doctor in the amazon rainforest!
EverLearningMan 1 month ago
@Rinsuki I am well aware of abuse but I am not going to buy into this "fine line" between abuse and spanking where no one can ever logically articulate where spanking becomes abuse. It's great to have opinions, but the debate on spanking was over years ago, it's been PROVEN harmful. You're trying to use your illogical opinion to justify yourself and I don't know who you think that will benefit. I always encourage reading up on issues, not spouting opinions gotten from your parents.
omgtaylorswift01 2 months ago
@omgtaylorswift01 incorrect. I have gone back and forth. I see both sides of the argument. One thing I can tell you is that it has absolutely not been proven harmful. That is just a blatant lie. It really doesn't help your side of the argument. That's like people who say "evolution has been proven" wtf? when? you can't just spew stuff like that. many people have written in official documents that it has been proven and also that it has been disproven. That doesn't mean it is the official stance
ellenw1881 1 week ago
that was my birthday 16 may
fruitkaji 2 months ago
@stonemetallica That is a DOCTOR! It is a doctor profession. Doctors are ALL different. Some are medical and some are emotional. But it is a doctor by degree-
singpraise247 2 months ago
People don't know how to verbally discipline. Meaning you actually explain to your kids what they are doing wrong. Parents make the mistake of not pointing out what the child is doing wrong and how they can change it. Spanking is not abuse! Abuse is when you vent your anger out and hitting to feel good rather then a quick slap on the butt to tell them you will not condone such a behavior. She is just hitting her child to break it's will. That is abuse.
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Rinsuki 2 months ago
If I'm mad, I don't spank my girls....I have to remember they're kids and you can't ":get" them for every little thing otherwise they'll fear the world.
GlamourGirlMejor30 3 months ago
Spanking works BUT you can't go too far with spanking for example like using a object
joe70461 3 months ago
Maybe she needs to be a better parent.
lbaumy 3 months ago
this works for asian kids and they grow up fine lol me for example
PCUlzzang 3 months ago
@PCUlzzang Exactly, iam married to a Thai woman, her mom is VERY strict and beat alot BUT 3 of her 4 kids have recieved their graduation diplomas from the royal family. So i guess her strict way of raising kids sure paid of. iam white and iam so sick of whiteys letting their kids do anything without ever getting beat
MakeAGameWithMe 3 months ago
The reason spanking doesn't work is because its negative reinforcement. Children are like puppies. You reward them for good behaviors. Gentlely correct unwanted behaviors, and be an authority figure, but never hurt of dominant them.
breyercrazy789 4 months ago
@breyercrazy789 Spanking doesn't work but neither does positive reinforcement with rewards. This makes them materialistically dependent for good behavior whereas you want them to be able to function independently of fear and materials. Both these methods will not work unless you talk to your children. Explain why you are punishing them, what will happen next time they act in such a way again, and what they can do to avoid the same punishment next time.
Rinsuki 2 months ago
This Lady Must Be An Aries.
lambofgodrodrigo 4 months ago
fucking psycho bitch.
TheUnsolvableProblem 4 months ago 2
@TheUnsolvableProblem - amen.
DallasNeedsADentist 3 months ago
wheres the london nanny...hahaha
41gagavision 4 months ago
What she said she is going to jail.
25Putnam 4 months ago
How many times do we have to explain parents that corporal punishment is NEVER working! The kid gets used to it and only learns to associate love with violence. And it's no wonder these kids are out of control when you see how the mother talks to them: "You're mean to me!" with that tone, as if she was talking to one of her girlfriends. Those a re kids, you're role is to EDUCATE them!!!! God, some people shouldn't be parents....
reuscmar 5 months ago
The things the mom is saying about her little girl.
"She'll yell at you, scream at you, she won't respond to no, she has no respect for anyone."
Gee..I wonder where she gets that......
MFNMultimedia 5 months ago
...it's a lot of work to raise children and they're all diffrent...some people really need to think really hard about who they are, what baggage they may have, before they have kids..there is nothing wrong with never having children...it is not a necessity, even tho sometimes it seems like it because almost everyone has them, but think how much better it could be in so many cases...
kathberry8 5 months ago
That's a paddlin' lol
cbohar84 5 months ago
im afraid to say tht i witnessed worse when i was a child. my friend used to get beaten so bad..
i guess in the environment tht im living in made it seem normal. thts why im surprise to see tht this women has gone over the limit when i've seen worse.
p1t4t4ru 5 months ago
Okay, look, I was spanked as a child and I could only hope that I ended up fine. But, this! This is child abuse! She's corrupting her children. Pathetic, spineless moron!
Summer261997 5 months ago
did you all here about this woman she got arrested after this show after sickening parents called the police she is being charged with misdemetor child abuse but her defense was she made this all up to be on dr.phill's
agetlostgirl 5 months ago
@nameless212
As if there was a difference.
friedlish 5 months ago
This is real child abuse, not pouring some hot sauce in your kid's mouth. Yeah, both methods of discipline suck, but both mothers went on the show to change and improve...I don't get how hot sauce mom almost got 180 days.
dodod0ri 5 months ago
@dodod0ri
Because it wasn't just hot sauce (as if that wasn't bad enough). Did you hear the screams of terror from that poor little boy when she forced him to stand in the cold shower? If that wasn't abuse, then I don't know what is.
friedlish 5 months ago
"Boo hoo, I lack all appropriate parenting skills..." It's not that hard to find alternative methods for discipline and monitoring your children. GOOOOOOD FUCKING LUCK getting your children to alter their behavior NOW, bitch.
lydianna 6 months ago
why have you got 3 kids when you're obviously not able to handle them? I mean, "let's get another baby, yeah great let's do that".... what goes through the minds of women like this? STOP having kids if you can't handle the first one!
poppylv21 6 months ago
I wish my mom WAS that nice when I was little...
CrAzYvAmPcHiC 6 months ago
those kids need to live with someone else who can discipline them correctly not by using excessive force.. who kicks their kids??? she's a lazy mother who doesn't take the time for her kids..so sad.
johnssexygf 6 months ago
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4:38-So,Dad did'nt want to have kids?
recoverfromhydro 6 months ago
Here in France when I was I kid if I talked back to a teacher I would get smacked across the face. At home if I did not obey and be respectful to my parents I would get smacked. I have gotten smacked across the face with a stick, a belt, a wooden paddle. Americans don't get how we can "abuse" kids. But its not ! By the way, I am out of lycee passed my bac and I am very respectful to my elders. American kids are screwed over.
loveandpeacepluslife 6 months ago
@loveandpeacepluslife I think u missed the point.. Not just a smack but she's wants to beat them UNCONSCIOUS!! Did we watch the same video? By screaming & hitting them out of frustration, teaches them to do the same resulting in more bad behavior. It's a vicious cyle. The mom is brave to admit the problem & seek skills to change. Parenting skills have evolved, why hit if there constructive ways to discpline? American kids are not screwed, the french are just ignorant & arrogant!
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ANOTHERHOLEINYOHEAD 6 months ago
that is why I want no kids, I fear I would spank them or even beat them because I do not have the nerves
trekkicat 6 months ago
that whore is a bully
TheMightyWet 7 months ago
Dr. phil is the best! He has good sense of judgement
12365Alexa 7 months ago 2
Dr. Phil, i Really Really respect you, and i enjoy every episode of your show. But GAWD how i HATE your Intro!!
jwkublick 7 months ago
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Coming from an asian family....this is...quite normal...
moonlight4529 7 months ago
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there is a difference between spanking and getting a beating this is not spanking
booksmart8 7 months ago
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Oh my god. I'm sorry but that's evil. I understand spanking but a belt??
marley06021998 7 months ago
What a bitch, you dont just "lose it" and then that, and that, and all of the sudden you hit the kid. No, you make the choice to hit your child, you always have a choice, you dont have something inside you that just takes over your body, its you.
fdafsdfasgs 8 months ago 8
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I grew up getting spanked and I have had red marks left on me for an hour or two. I got spanked A LOT. I deserved every single one of the spankings. However, I was never bruised and never hit with a closed fist. I've been spanked with belts and tree branches (those are the worst), open hands, and fly swatters. I never did the same thing over and over, although I may get in to trouble for different reasons, I never got spanked for doing the EXACT same thing as before lol. I am grateful for it.
kr4yzi32k 8 months ago
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the bruises are way tooo much, but those kids have shitty behavior and should act better, a smack here and there will make them think "oh, that hurt better not do it again" unless they have mental/learning disabitlites...
SayoriKimishima 8 months ago
she's the kind of parent that anticipates hitting her kids everyday
gurunath92 8 months ago 19
what a dumb bitch
gurunath92 8 months ago 5
she really didnt do anything that bad lol
cutlery12 8 months ago
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spanking ok. yelling along with it, not a good idea, that just makes them not listen, and the spanking is to get their attention, getting them to listen.this mother takes it too far. but there is nothing wrong with a spanking.
Sony18241 9 months ago
case of the mother's hysteria bleeding into the children's behavior. And why isn't the father being more an active parent?
hbanana7 9 months ago 5
i think they dont want to havekids, but they got it by mistake and nor there own kids r a burden for them. So whene evr they r angry or stress out' they hit there kids.... THEY SHOULD KNOW HOW TO CONTROL THEMSELF...
rabia846 9 months ago
i cried watching this.....
Spadadiforza 9 months ago
As a parent they need to chose their battles.... Poor kids and I hope the parents get serious help...I don't understand how a person can be so enraged ... wow how scary poor kids and I hope they get HELP!
JesusGodHolySpirit3 9 months ago 5
Man I am glad I have only one child and she is is a great kid. Thank you LORD for her beautiful she is :)
JesusGodHolySpirit3 9 months ago 2
my mom was spanked and is now scared for life...i've seen my grandmother once in my life because they just hate eachother...people be smart-love your children and with conversation and kindness you can achive everything. I was never touched in a bad way by my parents and i respect them soo much and i'm an A student and everything. Belive me violence is NEVER the answer. I don't have a child of my own so i don't know how hard it is,bt i know from my mom that it can all be ok without hitting. :)
frecklescheer 10 months ago 5
ok then the kids whould have the right to strap their parents to a bed and "spank" them too when they cross the line,
Zkrudriverz 10 months ago 3
I agree that many kids are sorely lacking in discipline. However, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of spanking because it's much to easy for me to picture a parent losing their temper and hitting much *too* hard.
fortyseventhronin 10 months ago 2
You'll notice that people who say they turned out fine are operating on the premise that being obedient to authority figures is the measuring stick of being a good person. This is a confession of underdeveloped moral reasoning skills. Any parent who spanks their kid is actually proving that they deserved to be disrepected, and could learn a thing or two from looking in the damn mirror. But abusers by definition blame the victims. It is always the fault of the person who has no power.
Fathoms2004 10 months ago 54
@Fathoms2004 dude my finger hurts from clicking like on your comment
ragedasian 7 months ago 3
@Fathoms2004 Dude, I was spanked and I turned out fine and I've always said "fuck the system", I've always gone against the norm, and I will always will. woe the person who thinks they can give me direct orders, etc. At least the spankings got me out of bad influences and I never smoked nor used drugs nor started drinking at eleven like ALOT of my classmates did at that time. I'm not all for spanking because it does create a sort of tension, but a swat on a covered butt isn't mean, nor abuse.
akissy 7 months ago
@Fathoms2004
Very, very well said.
friedlish 5 months ago
no one is making neone have kids. if u have kids, u owe it to them to not pass down ur ignorant shit that u blindly accepted from ur parents. if u intend to hurt a child, do the world a favor and dont have kids so the earth can have less morons. we really need government intervention on this issue.
omgtaylorswift01 10 months ago 3
there r many problems n the world. why r people wanting to compound them by pleading for more violence toward kids. it depresses me when i read people say there is a difference between spanking and abuse, spanking is ok if done correctly, some kids need to be spanked, and 'i' was spanked and turned out fine. why do we need to justify stupid behavior?
omgtaylorswift01 10 months ago 4
@omgtaylorswift01 There is a fine line between that and abuse. Everyone uses the term abuse freely these days that the meaning is lost. Do you even know what abuse is and have you seen the victims of abuse? Parents can take it too far sometimes, but stop using the word abuse like it's candy or something.
Rinsuki 2 months ago
Spanking is a way to discipline your child it helps them but only when its necessary as in if they continue to do something after the parent telling them to stop several times. Beating your child/children like this mother does has the chance to turn their kids into criminals or abusers in the future
severelyKILLED15 10 months ago
Kids are going to be kids. If you can't handle that, then don't have them. Simple.
TheCrippledCrow 10 months ago
you can't just spank your kids and expect it to be fixed. you have to spank your kids in the right time and right manner, to show them why they are wrong but also to show them love. if you're asian, you'll know what i mean. i was discipline as a kid and it has helped me alot and i know that my parents did it cause they love me. like i said, you have to know when to discipline your kids but also show that you are doing it for there own good.
lucirz 10 months ago
@lucirz I know what you mean and I am asian and was disciplined. I guess asian parents are different. Mine didn't hit me because I cut into their "me" time or because they didn't want me. These people use the term abuse so much it's nauseating. Spanking doesn't equal abuse unless you are hitting only to break that child's will down instead of teaching them something.
Rinsuki 2 months ago
okay i'm opposed to teacher's spanking children but not the parents. If a kid is bad at home beat ass worked on me
Kratos8462 11 months ago
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Everything this mom does to her children in this video has happened to me ten times worse, yet there is a reason why my punishment doesnt scar me and isnt considered abuse and theirs scars them and is considered abuse: THEYRE FRIKIN BABIES! I mean,when i was a kid I got slapped, yelled at, etc, but it is DEFINETLY not Okay to do that to kids that young, especially out of anger! I hope god will help her children and her through this rough time....
xxxLILMISSTHANGxxx 11 months ago
I was spanked when I was a kid, but it was always a last resort, and I always knew why I had gotten spanked. People shouldn't discipline children when they are angry.
notmarysunshine 11 months ago
IF i saw my Wife hitting my children id Knock her out concious in a heartbeat.
Anilithun 11 months ago
It's just so sad that some people think this is discipline still, see? THIS is the problem with america. It's full of ignorant people who deep down inside, enforce voilence without even really meaning to.
MelodiesStrawberrii 1 year ago
Lol, in America it seems like a couple of spankings is abuse. Then you should see how Asian parents discipline their kids and their kids turn out to be pretty darn good and successful and TAKE CARE of their parents when they are old.
leilyhaddad 1 year ago
@leilyhaddad I am actually from Asia, and while yes there are asian parents who discipline their children through physical things, actually its more verbal now days. But the difference is, the parents mean what they say, and they do expect the rules to be followed. These american parents just don't really enforce anything fully and frankly they dont often do what they preach anyways.
No offense to american parents, not all are like that, I am speaking for a minority.
MelodiesStrawberrii 1 year ago
@MelodiesStrawberrii LOL, I am from Asia! I'm not a non-Asian pointing out how strict the Asians are. I have been smacked, slapped and sometimes even pinched and I don't blame nobody but me. LOL. I agree, Asian parents usually mean what they say and this is especially true for Chinese parents because of their culture/tradition and their belief of filial piety. But tbh, it's not just Americans that are like this, loads of Asians are now starting to follow their ways and the kids become brats.
leilyhaddad 1 year ago 2
@leilyhaddad Actually, I am asian as well, so I dont appreciate you trying to sneak in a little rude comment as if I dont know what I'm talking about because I just didn't mention I am asian, so please, spare me the little snide remarks please.
Appearently we just have different views and different things we have seen.
MelodiesStrawberrii 1 year ago
@MelodiesStrawberrii Um, I actually assumed you WERE Asian. I'm not talking about YOU -.-
leilyhaddad 1 year ago
can anybody tell me this word he said on 6:02
ayhaga111 1 year ago
@Lboogie06 spanking teaches respect? a trusted authority hitting a small child to inflict pain is teaching respect? the more licks u get means the more respect ur learning? is there any reputable child psychologist n the world that would support ur absurd argument?
omgtaylorswift01 1 year ago
it depends between discipline and abuse. if you're to the point where you're leaving bruises, welts, o even scars then that goes beyond discipline and abuse, you're just fucking OD'ing.
ComaLies225 1 year ago
i belive in a slap thats it if you scream at your kids and hurt them then discipline wont work i also belive in the opposite such as the corner and time out
babygirl83780 1 year ago
i belive in a slap thats it if you scream at your kids and hurt them then discipline wont work
babygirl83780 1 year ago
i was spanked as a kid, but never to the point where it left marks. it was just one or two smacks on the butt with an open hand, mostly just to get me to stop acting out or being disrespectful not to seriously hurt me. my parents also used other methods, like grounding and having to do everyones chores for a certain period of time, unlike this lady who seems to just smack her kids around because shes upset that theyre not behaving perfectly all the time
rab1dsquirrel 1 year ago
I'm for physical discipline, but recently I heard some experts say not all kids react the same way to some actions. Such events can become traumatic to a young kid.
USAFSmiley87 1 year ago
You have to admire her honesty, if nothing else. Many parents in similar situations aren't honest about the abuse and let it get completely out of hand.
amyliz143ny 1 year ago
Thier asses must have more bruises than all the men in prison fuck shit bitch dick
CosmicKush420 1 year ago
my mom still bitch slaps me if i do any thing really bad. i call it a well deserved dicipline
jikininki1 1 year ago 3
@jikininki1 i know thats right
candygir87528 1 year ago
i have a lot of opinions about this. i personally think that there is a difference than spanking and abuse. however, i also have decided that i wont spank kids when i grow up because it is often out of pure anger or frustration. but kids definitely need to learn discipline and respect, so i think i will use time out when i have kids.
hamletisastud 1 year ago
My mom punished me really hard when I at that age.. Like that, only not with a belt. But she really yelled, clocked me in a room, grabbed me in the arm etc..
I'm messed up ):
ThisIsLove94 1 year ago
@ThisIsLove94 lol you dont know whats its like to be black asian or mexican, we get our ass's handed to by a good ole back hand or a belt
jikininki1 1 year ago
I think the problem with america today is the lack of discipline .... They try to be their best friends and nothing else. I got spanked and it didn't mess me up .... As long as its not violent and with an open palm (just a little swat) and that's it. I don't believe in using the belt ... or other objects to hit or punish your child (b/c I think that crosses the line) but a little spank on the butt is ok.
Trueghostgirl 1 year ago
TIME OUT!! are u serious.. u dont need to fight them like a stranger in the street but yea whip their ass if they get out line... then the world wont be full of paris hilton's and other spoil brats thats disrespectful
Lboogie06 1 year ago 3
Oh come on. When I was like 5-13, my dad would take a 2x4 and make me pull down my pants and smack the shit out of me with it. I still remember to this day as the most fear I have ever felt, but it helped me learn respect for my elders as well as knowing when NOT TO CROSS THE FUCKING LINE
soccerlover10012 1 year ago
@soccerlover10012 well i never got hit wit a 2x4 but belts, shoes, switches yes. but i do agree it teaches you respect...
Lboogie06 1 year ago
Wow. This is abuse?
Children are little bastards until you smack them.
iwantsomecookiess 1 year ago 2
This is the perfect way to parent your children if you want them to grow up to hate you, their father, themselves and have no concept of healthy discipline. If you can't take care of your children responsibly, then send them to someone who can take care of them properly! These are children for fuck's sake. Boo hoo, your kid has a tantrum, what happened to having them sit in the corner for a time out?
lydianna 1 year ago
My mom used to do this. She would scream, spank me, hit me, slap me, even drag me by my hair. So much as spanking your kids is wrong in my eyes. What good do you get out of psychically punishing them? Also, teachers have NO right to ever put their hands on a kid. If I ever found out a teacher hit my child, It wouldn't be pretty.
ThatTwiztidBabygirl 1 year ago
my parents were spanked too and they become nice intelligent people. I got spanked maybe two times in my life and I am ok, I have no depression. come on! giving a little spank is not the same thing as beating up a child. But I think that some evil kids need a good kick in their butt to learn respect. because I noticed many children becoming selfish and aggressive towards adults and other kids. if negociation does not work... what else should you do then?
trekkicat 1 year ago
Kids require alot of patience. If you can't handle them without abusing theme, don't fucking have em'. Its that simple sheesh.
virgochic 1 year ago
My mom's screamed at me like that a lot, but she only spanked me when I directly disobeyed her
SPNSamDean84 1 year ago
@LilacLynn4 I remember getting a paint paddle or a hand to the rump every now and then...and I turned out alright too.
People really do need to stop confusing a spanking with physical abuse.
angelix 1 year ago 2
its wrong to generalize that spanking doesnt work. but its also wrong to beleive that it works on all children. the majority of children can be diciplened by spanking, but all kids are different. and another thing, no matter what discepline method you use, use it early on, and dont spoil them. everybody hates brats
mrfoozy47 1 year ago
i love this dramatic music in the trailer in the beginning
constipationnow 1 year ago
Lol I got spanked maybe once or twice and I turned out pretty well-rounded. My best friend didn't get spanked and she doesn't respect her mom at all.
bahimaduck 1 year ago
oh crud, my name is Monica... lol
OF COURSE THE SPANKING DOESN'T WORK?
Research shows that spanking does not have long-term effects, it only stops the immediate behavior for the time being.
Monica17N 1 year ago
Teachers should not spank kids. However, I learned many-a-lesson from spanking when I was little and I think that as long as the parents can control themselves and do not go overboard, spanking is okay in moderation.
heartchens 1 year ago
they should bann hitting cuz parents seem to go over boerd
honor21221able 1 year ago
this makes me fucking sick,
MultiFagman 1 year ago
I discipline my daughter by carrying her upside-down to her room, which I make her clean. (Cleaning requirement scaled appropriately to the situation).
It does no harm to her, she hates it, and it gets a rather needed job done.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
There's a difference between spanking and beating, as many have said. There are parents who take it way too far, out of stress and anger. I feel bad for this woman. Yes, her techniques are far too extreme, and her children could do with some consistent discipline -- when they're that ill behaved it's because they have become aggressive and think they have more control than she does. In a way they do. Her husband needs to make a more active role and help, too, so that they're a united front.
MorriganAtwood 1 year ago
Every child is unique. There is NO one punishment system that will work for every child. Spankings worked for my daughter, but not for my son. If used, spankings should NEVER be done while angry and also should only be used on the most serious of offenses. If a child receives a spanking too often, the punishment will lose it's effect.
My kids are 13 and 17 and neither have received a spanking in about 10 years, they simply haven't deserved one, but I wouldn't hesitate if they did.
rickl7069 1 year ago
I have a running joke with my children where I beg them to go steal a bike so that I'll get to spank them.
rickl7069 1 year ago
Only uneducated people use physical discipline. For example everyone employed at a home depo near where I live all think hitting (abusing) children will make children better disciplined.
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alucardaj 1 year ago
There is a big difference between discipline and abusing...
seldian 1 year ago
I don't think there is anything wrong with spanking, but there is a difference between spanking and ABUSE. I wasn't spanked very often as a young child because I learned after one or two times. My mother never spanked me, she always "used her words" and I walked all over her. My father ruled with an iron hand and now that I'm an adult I respect him 100%. I don't believe in taking it too far, or using it as a first resort but I dont rule it out entirely either.
Sarah99ification 1 year ago
@Sarah99ification I completely agree, my parents would give my brother and i a warning or two then after that we got spanked. If we were acting out in public we went to the bathrooms and got spanked. Now that we're older we joke around about it, but i couldn't respect them more for disciplining us the way they did!
alucardaj 1 year ago
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LOL. I got spanked as a kid. It didn't mess me up. It taught me manners and respect. It wasn't out of control beating and it was reserved for worst case scenarios. My dad used the belt. I'm FINE. Never done drugs, made straight A's in school, practicing abstinence, etc. Kids need waaaay more discipline and the problem is that parents today don't know the difference between disciplining their children and punishing them.
ElricObsession 1 year ago 39
@ElricObsession
Just because you turned out just fine, doesn't mean that spanking your children is a sound form of discipline. There are many more effective ways to administer boundaries for your children, you should never have to lay a hand on them EVER.
lydianna 1 year ago
@lydianna
please give us some examples ... it is easy said 'this is so wrong', tell us then what is 'right'.
trekkicat 1 year ago
@lydianna yea i mean their are so many ways to discipline your children i mean what if your child turns around and hits you then what you know what i mean
honor21221able 1 year ago
@ElricObsession you wouldn't have lived a lot more relaxed as a kid if you were REALLY punished instead of just spanked? like punishment that actually made you feel bad intead of just hurt?
vikingskippen 11 months ago
@ElricObsession I was never ever spanked. And i'm fine. I do voluntary work at least 4 hours a week, i have good grades etc. I am a good kid, and i also have discipline and manners. I don't think you need to be spanked to be a good kid.
girl92love 11 months ago 4
@girl92love Yes but that is you. You also know that each child has a certain personality that spanking or not spanking might work. You as a parent must figure that out. Since all children can't be nice little angels like yourself growing up, I think spanking is not horrible when circumstances call for it. If there are other ways to discipline by all means do it, but the word abuse has been overused and caused many families to be torn apart.
Rinsuki 2 months ago
@ElricObsession you know you could have a nice wife, nice kids, a good job, house a dog WHATEVER and still be fucked up. My mom had all that, now she has nothing. She was spanked when she was a kid.
Zkrudriverz 10 months ago
@ElricObsession:"LOL. I got spanked as a kid. It didn't mess me up. It taught me manners and respect. It wasn't out of control beating and it was reserved for worst case scenarios. My dad used the belt. I'm FINE. Never done drugs, made straight A's in school.. parents today don't know the difference between disciplining their children and punishing them"
Well same here, but except I grew up to be a sociopath, depressed, anti-social, suicidal, bipolar, and want to kill everyone. straight a's..
kaneXundertaker 9 months ago
@kaneXundertaker Then you should probably just kill yourself. You know, before you do something to someone else.
ElricObsession 9 months ago
@ElricObsession I know right, but you dont know me.
kaneXundertaker 9 months ago
I was spanked, that's different from abused -"spanking" is a firm pat to the tush to redirect out of control behavior (yes, little guys get out of control too) -belts, hangers, etc., are abuse. On the flip-side of spanking, has anyone heard of Tantrum911? It's this scented stuff that you put under your kid's nose when they start to flip out and it immediately calms them. Sounds crazy, but the scent of it redirects their brain during a tantrum. Good alternative to redirecting while they're young.
Dispatcher705 1 year ago
Fucking dumbass Americans. Spank your kids!!
gongoozler18 1 year ago
when a baby bear steps out of line what does the mama bear do?........put it in time out? i dont spankings bad but i do think hittimg children in the face or hitting them with an object is bad
CrissyJoe13105 1 year ago
I know parents that have never raised a hand towards their children yet they have the most aggresive children I have ever encountered. One family isn't even able to take their kids to others homes without a incident occuring. I don't think you should spank if you feel you are losing your control but if a child isn't listening to anything else you may need to try it. If it doesn't work then they need to quit that and try something else.
grumpygirl1000 1 year ago
This lady may want to think about getting a part time job. I have been both stay at home mom and working mom and let me tell you that getting out for a few days a week put a whole new spin on things. It gave me time to get a breather although I was working. I appreciated the time with my kids more while I was working and did learn that working is easier than raising children full time. I didn't realize that until I did start working after having children.
grumpygirl1000 1 year ago
Its one thing to spank but to leave bruises is another. the issue is not really spanking it;s the fact that she has gone too far and now it has become abuse
SEEKIN4BENEFIT 1 year ago
at least she can admit she has a problem. im glad to see this woman own up to her issues.
Neesharani 1 year ago
Teacher used to spank students. Ask your grandparents or, if they are still alive, great-grandparents. They lived. I spank my kids. I have four and sometimes I have to use a belt too. Kids need to be spanked. Kids need to be disciplined. If you don't discipline they won't know the limits in life.
meganwostrel26 1 year ago
And the mom and dad should not be yellen at their kids either, they should have self control and respect their kids as people.
bible109 1 year ago
You kidin me? If you yell and scream at anyone you've disrespected that person. That deserves a good switchin.
bible109 1 year ago
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"The belt incident"!? Give me a break. I don't think I know anyone my age who wasn't hit with a belt growing up. What a joke. I hate lawyers who have instilled their over the top child abuse ideals in new age parenting
Nmn2005 1 year ago
"The belt incident"!? Give me a break. I don't think I know anyone my age who wasn't hit with a belt growing up. What a joke. I hate lawyers and their who have instilled their over the top child abuse ideals in new age parenting
Nmn2005 1 year ago
"The belt incident"!? Give me a break. I don't think I know anyone my age who wasn't hit with a belt growing up. What a joke. I hate lawyers who have instilled their over the top child abuse ideals in new age parenting
Nmn2005 1 year ago
Thaats Crazy ! My Mom Used To Hit Me wheen iwas Little &` im Still Aliveee if Had Kidss Like Thaat &` Never Listen to Mee Then Hell Yes ima FuckinG whoop They Ass ! idOnt Get it if Yur kids Are Like This it dOsent Matter if Yuu Hit Them . Yuu Havee to Givee them a Few Chances Warn Them &` Thats it HiT THEM !
Yawelkysx33 1 year ago
Marks on the body are not a good indicator. You can kill your child without leaving visible marks.
TheGlobalpuppet 1 year ago
the one time i was spanked i was like 6 and my grandma pulled down my pants and bent me over and apparently i looked at her disgusted and yelled 'what are you doing?!' my grandma never did it again.
TheGlobalpuppet 1 year ago
This bitch needs to learn how to control her anger.
XxXDevilCatXxX 1 year ago
dam if these were my kids i would beat the shit outta them.....i would keep them in a closet and leave them their for days....giving only time for intermittent harsh beatings....these kids just dont get it. and she is not abusing her kids but she should start to.
Beat all children to near death and they will stop being a problem
MrAntiamerica 1 year ago