The Krege Investigation

[Albainn]

"Now we can add Krege to the list of bogus "experts" that includes Leuchter, Cole and Irving." Just where are all the so-called "Holocaust" (R) (TM) (K) experts who claim opposite conclusions? And why is it that the two opposing points of view can't get together, each with their evidence, in front of a "jury of their peers" and make their cases. You know. Just show their math and science skills in regard to this "subject" (religion?). It would be interesting. No?

[Albainn]

Bullshit. Krege searched the entire grounds and found no signs of disturbance in the soil or any sign of human remains or ash. So, just to satisfy my curiousity, has any other entity done a GPR search and actually FOUND these layers of human remains? If so, when and who? I'm just saying, if Krege is all wrong, then who, using the same technology is saying different, because the science behind this radar search is used everyday by forensics people looking for murder victims. And it works.

[belinda2118]

Interesting that Australians are getting interested in facts and not just stories that may be or may not be facts. One must keep an open mind.

[Bieszczady73]

Wondefu example og holo-propaganda.

But what about the facts,gentelman.

ONE SINGLE proof that gas chamber,electric chambers,STEAM CHAMBERS (YES,YES) vacuum chambers REALLY EXSITED?

WE DID HAVE A LOT OF EYEWITNESS TO ALL OF THOSE CHAMBERS even in Dachau,Buchenwald, and other camps.What happened later?No gas chambers,no steam chambers,no electric chambers and no witness.

Of course no proof either:)

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek

[ski2exs]

@Bieszczady73 Oh wow. . .you area bloody dolt. . .

I guess you think that if a murder takes place, and we have the gun that shot the bullet with the murders prints on it, the bullet casing with prints, the recovered bullet out of the body that matches forensic tests to the gun, the powder burns on the cuff of the shirt, the witness who identified the murder and the letter the murder wrote indicating his intentions. . .that it represents 'No Proof"

BWAHahahahaha. . .you fucking ignorant.

[Bieszczady73]

@ski2exs

Well...The problem is..We don't have a body,we don't have a gun,we don't have a bullet,we don't have a prints,we only have one blind witness and a the bill to pay:)

Back to square 1. ONE prof which will follow all the criteria you mentioned.

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek

[ski2exs]

@Bieszczady73 No. . .the PROBLEM is you don't have a brain to realize we have it.

You call 100's of 1000's of Nazi political and military documents, 100's of 1000's of eyewitnesses, 100's of 1000's of videographic clips, recon photos, soldier testimony, confessions, physical evidence, etc, etc, etc, etc. . . .as no evidence.

Like I said. . .you're a dolt man. an idiot, ignorant, lacking in education, stupid, moronic, . . .get the picture dude?

[Bieszczady73]

@ski2exs

Dear ski.I am an exper t on holo-crap and your verbal deluge doesn't impress me.Lie-even repeated 6 ooo ooo times is still a lie.  Did you hear about Moshe Peer z?Zofia Litwinska,Abraham Bomba,Regina Bialek,Ada Bimko and many others? Are they witness or not? :)

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek

[ski2exs]

@Bieszczady73 BTW. . . are YOU still waiting on that six year old report from Krege too?? BWAHAHAHahahahahaha

[Bieszczady73]

@ski2exs

No i don't have to wait for it because all Richard did is documented on internet.Are you waiting for something special,dedicated to you only? :)

What Richard is clear enough despite the desperate attempts of hasbara to discredit his research .You have to try harder my friend.

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek

[ski2exs]

@Bieszczady73 Hey. . . I'm not the one that promised my little denialist groupies a 'FULL REPORT' back in 1999. . . a report that which, to date, has yet to be produced.

If that's the kind of professionalism you want to put your trust in that's you and yours. I certainly wouldn't be crossing any bridges built by a self proclaimed Engineer who failed to provide his math. Know what I mean??

But then that's the biggest part of the problem with the denialist camp. . .all talk, no show.

[GoldenZealot21]

So, Krege is one of many who have cracked open this big lie. No organization has even been able to counter his information. In any case, if the Holocaust mythology wasn't kept so secretive, there would have been allowed and even pushed by governments for 100s of such geological surveys. Hats off to Krege and his team!!

[dutchgoing]

Krege is an electrical engineer not a physical anthropologist or forecsics expert. He has never published his results openly. When tried in West Germany in 1970 Franz Stangl the camp comandant admitted to killing around 900K people. He said 'My conscience is clear, I was simply doing my duty.' The statements of so many victims agree with the accounts given by the perpetrator. Bones, ash & personal effects are visible in a photo taken of the site in 1945.

[paolosilv]

The Ruins of the Gas Chambers: A Forensic Investigation of Crematoriums at Auschwitz I and Auschwitz-Birkenau by Daniel Keren, Harry W. Mazal and Jamie McCarthy proves not only that the holes existed but shows where they are.

[chasing91a]

outstanding video...two thumbs-up

[Obergefreiter1]

Yes send in Tony Robinson and the time team

[nukeseeker]

The post war photographs of the site are quite damning to the claims of denier-liar Krege.

This pictorial evidance proves beyond all reasonable doubt that the Krege investigation was a phony.

[nagahaga]

Treblinka seems to be one of those phantoms, invented by some talmudists to deceive the supid goyim. Even the so called "diesel-gaschambers" are debunked as a big lie.

How can somebody dig out 850000 corpses, some of them maybe already completely decomposed, in such a way and so properly, that not even a single bone or whatever belonging was left behind in the earth.That whole treblinka superstition is getting a real burlesque

[sglibrarian]

Dead on.

It is impossible to kill with diesel exhaust; it simply isn't lethal enough to do so. If the Nazis wanted to gas people, they would have used the Sarin, Taubin or Soman nerve gas stockpiles which they had stored.

Also not explained by the hoaxsters is why Auschwitz had radio delousing equipment installed to delouse the clothes of people the Nazis were allegedly going to "gas" later. It makes no sense.

Krege hasn't released his report yet. The jury is still out.

[nagahaga]

please check out my recent "recommendation of this week"

there you will find some more stunning

"gas chamber survivor" tales.

Commedia dell'arte

[jarekpski85]

Nonsense. In a closed chamber, of course diesel fumes will kill.

There was actually a study on this, and its results are reported in

"The Toxicity of Fumes from a diesel Engine Under Four Different

Running Conditions", by Pattle et al. These researchers ran a few

experiments in which various animals were exposed to diesel fumes,

and studied the results.... in small

gas-tight rooms oxygen levels drop quickly,

thus making death by CO poisoning faster

[sglibrarian]

Uh huh. The Pattle study was conducted over a span of 5 hours, not the 15-30 minutes the "eyewitnesses" claim, and the toxic agent in those cases is not Co . Even were this not the case, the so called gas-chambers lack the necessary equipment to render them airtight. Compare the US gas chambers with their submarine doors and reinforced glass, for example.

Diesel exhaust is occasionally vented directly into the atmosphere in underground mines.  How many miners die from diesel exhaust fumes?

[jarekpski85]

The volume of the

extermination chambers in Treblinka is, of course, a factor. But the

chambers' volume was about 60 cubic meters (2040 cubic feet); this is

6 times more than those in the British experiments, but the

difference in the size of the engines is much larger than a factor of

6. The diesel engines used in Treblinka were much larger - they

belonged to captured Soviet T-34 tanks, which had around 500BHP.

[jarekpski85]

It should be remembered that what matters in CO poisoning is not the

concentration of CO, but the ratio of CO to oxygen. In a small,

gas-tight room, crammed full of people, oxygen levels drop quickly,

thus making death by CO poisoning faster. The SS was aware of the fact that cramming as many people as possible

into the gas chamber, thus leaving no empty spaces, would accelerate

death.

[GoldenZealot21]

@jarekpski85

Except there wasn't such a thing. Neither is CO even claimed by zionists as the gas that was used...

[MSM4U2POM]

@sglibrarian

Of course diesel engines can kill - don't be ridiculous! Engineers Holtz & Elliott showed in 1941 that a standard diesel motor can be forced to emit the same levels of Carbon Monoxide as a petrol one just by altering the fuel/air ratio - a five second job. Whatever kind of engine was used, it was big, and more than capable of doing the job.

[kenp3L]

"In 1959, third Reich historian Marin Gilbert . . . [said] 'we reached an enormous clearing. . . Darkness was falling, and with it . . . a cold dew. . . . The earth beneath my feet was coarse and sharp: filled with the fragments of human bone.'"

So, 15 years after the war, in an area prone to dampness, there in the shallow earth lies undecomposed bone fragments identifiable in the semi-darkness as human to a person with no training as a physical anthropologist.

[neoublie67]

Time for a proper, thorough investigation by a 'neutral' party. If there is evidence of massive soil disturbance then you will gone a long way to destroying the 'deniers/revisionists'. Until such time as that investigation has taken place I remain agnostic as to whether 700,000+ people were murdered at this site.

[Glendax7x]

Thank you so much for posting the truth and exposing another deniar liar.Krege could move to somewhere else and publish his (findings)but he knows its all lies.

[robert496]

Why not determine the facts once and for ever by excavating the whole area and stop the speculation.If it was a death camp bury the remains with respect.If it is not a death camp instigate a search at other sites. All we all want is the TRUTH.

[armoredhorse79]

The Romans created a desert and called it peace,the Jews created a lie and call it History!

[gncarlo]

"IT should be noted that Krege has been saying that he will publish his report for six years but hasn't yet." Probably because it is against jewish-inspired "holocaust-denial" laws in his home country, Australia.

[alanheath]

He did not have to publish it in Australia. He has not published it because he was never in Treblinka. It is just a lie.

[gncarlo]

Martin Gilbert a "German historian"? Don't be ridiculous. His self description includes: " I spent more than half my life on my eight-volume biography of Winston Churchill." Is this what passes for objectivity in your world?

[gncarlo]

The Communist judge Lukaskiewicz was part of the "forensic investigation team" who also examined the Katyn Forest killings and concluded they were done by the Germans. Now admitted to be all lies!

[octo333]

Well done, 64Rufus! Now we can add Krege to the list of bogus "experts" that includes Leuchter, Cole and Irving. These guys should remain  in their revionist camps; once they get out into the real world they get shot down pretty quick. Victims of a zionist conspiracy? Or is it because their arguments don't meet even the basic requirements of scientific or historical research?

[64Rufus64]

Thanks. IT should be noted that Krege has been saying that he will publish his report for six years but hasn't yet.

[alanheath]

You probably know my opinion but here it is again. I know Treblinka very well. I doubt that Krege was ever at the site. If Krege released his findings (or made them up and then published them) they would be easier to refute. But on the basis of what another correspondent told me then it is clear in my mind that Krege never visited Treblinka.

[alanbstard3]

Oh yes he did. I know he did

[nukeseeker]

Krege has not published his fidings because he is too afraid of finding them unable to withstand scrutiny.

[brian8793]

Are people allowed to investigate Treblinka in 2009?

[lrishNationalist]

@octo333

How is Krege bogus. Could you show how Leuchter, Cole and Irving are bogus experts?

[zaostrog]

@octo333 and Rudolf Germar who is a Chemist i s also a liar?