Mine I got off a friend, and I've been playing with it for 6 months or so. It sounds pretty great as a crash, I have an old aa meinl ride I use for ride, but anyway, I don't know how old the zbt is but it does have a small crack in the side that will soon be the death of it (like my old 16" aa meinl crash I had) :( so they are thin enough to crack and break after a while of hard use
i dono ive had this cymbal years and use it in a few of my vids. i know it does not sound as well as other upmarket cymbals but it does the job for me and its still going :)
I have this cymbal as well. I use it more as a ride though. Dont really like the crash sound it has. Other than that its great. I got it for about 70$ at my local music store.
@borderjumper67 dont this cymbal sucks it might sound good to you know but i will really start to annoy you. i got a ZBT starter pack w this, 13" hi-hats, and a free 14" crash. i went to guitar center 3 months after i got this and traded it in for 50$ off of my ZHT medium ride, i still have the hi-hats but i use ZHT mastersound 14". the crash i love but i might get rid of it in about 2-3 years.
Honstly crash-rides arent good to me i like having my crash.....then my ride but thats just me.
I personally like the Sabian Xs20, there's a big pack of them on musicians friend for 500. That's kind of a lot though c: if you can afford that, it's worth it. Sabian B8s sound better I think (and I tend to favor zildjian)
Ummm ZXTs are like 300? now I think, for the pack of course.
My advice, save your money. 2 years of drumming means you should look into some good parts.
They are great, I don't know why I got two thumbs down for my last comment, which I removed; but anyway, I still stand by what I said on the crash, it's garbage.
It's great for beginners, it's what I started with, but that doesn't change the fact that the quality of these cymbals are... bad. Haha, I'd replace them rather quickly if you're serious about drumming.
Sabian B8s I honestly think are the BEST begging cymbals out there.
yea... I started out with Zbt's and after like 3 month I switched because I didnt like the sound anymore and now Im playing with Zxt's and my next cymbals are going to be Pitch black cymbals.
@TheMisfit123456789 You think they blow because you're a moron. The A Custom series crashes sound fricken amazing. Not like sabians which pretty much sound like thick unhammered plates. And i have no idea why people go for paiste cymbals. The high frequency of those is just ridiculous. If your hearing is pretty good you'll ruin it within a month of playing paiste cymbals.
Zildjians are awesome. ZBT series is el cheapo though, but still sounds way better than sabians el cheapo series.
@ronnysoeberg Why can't someone else bash Zildjian but you can bash the other popular cymbal companies? Fuck off, hypocrite. Paiste, Sabian and Zildjian are all great cymbal makers, quit being biased asshole. I'm a proud owner of all three companies.
My friend bought the pack and they all sound pretty good.The hi hats are thin and need to be mounted on a stand with tension adjustment to keep them from choking up.
if you want a well priced good qaulity cymbal dont waste your time on zbt's. Paiste pst 5's are cheaper and are farrrrr better than the likes of these. Paiste really are the best.
crash/ride it a mix off both. It's genarally stated that they are not as good as a true crash or a true ride. And a standard ride will be more prenounced and bigger. Better sticking, overal better really
please help me!.. to all drummers out there, I in need your expert advices.. what do you think is the best cymbals that is not that expensive?... aside from a customs and K.. i cant afford them.. is sabian b8 or paiste 101 better than Zildjian ZBT?? please reply tnx..
well the thing about ZBT's and crash rides is, ZBT's break easy, and all crash rides are more of a crash or more of a ride, since they are ZBT's not every one will sound the same...mines ok for crashes, terrible ride
That's what I've got, it's so great. I wish it had more ride to it all around, but within the shoulder, near the bell, it sounds awesome as a ride. It's also a good, long, healthy crash sound too.
@Colerosity why i was gonna get it but then i saw this comment and i'm worried what's bad about it it's Zildjian .and they dont make crappy cymbal's or do they ??
@Colerosity OH!! thx 4 the reply ill save for a ''K'' but anyways witch brand u think makes the best cheapest cymbal's SABIAN or ZILDJIAN that's a good question :P
No sorry I just meant meinl. The AA I meant the "meinl" symbol looks like 2 A's to ne for some reason lol.
drummerjstone 3 months ago
Mine I got off a friend, and I've been playing with it for 6 months or so. It sounds pretty great as a crash, I have an old aa meinl ride I use for ride, but anyway, I don't know how old the zbt is but it does have a small crack in the side that will soon be the death of it (like my old 16" aa meinl crash I had) :( so they are thin enough to crack and break after a while of hard use
drummerjstone 4 months ago
@drummerjstone Meinl aa? do you mean sabian?
platapush 3 months ago
i dono ive had this cymbal years and use it in a few of my vids. i know it does not sound as well as other upmarket cymbals but it does the job for me and its still going :)
1991cdj 6 months ago
This cymbal lasted me about 2 years the first time, 1 year the second time, and 5 months the 3rd time, im switching.
KDrums100 7 months ago
This thing is way to ride to be any kind of effective crash. Way to heavy.
sonorcrusher 8 months ago
SOO...IN THE END i read all the comment's and what i deduced was that SABIAN B8'S KICK MORE ASS
Huargos1 10 months ago
@Huargos1 Yeah, this cymbal totally sucks. B8 Pros are fantastic for their price.
160ofthe90s 6 months ago
REMO KICKS ASS
Huargos1 11 months ago
Ugh I like b8s pesonally more.
But I'm gonna save for some a custom rezo pack when I get a job but If I can't come up with it I'll get pst5 or b8
129jasaxos 11 months ago
Would that be good for Enter Sandman?
drawesome1000 1 year ago
@drawesome1000 NO
purplevenom1000 1 year ago
is it me or does yours sound better than mine on the ride???
3ace13 1 year ago
lol i hate zbt,zxt,zht is ok, z3, and most of all i hate remo
TheMASDrummer 1 year ago
@TheMASDrummer evans are the best...hahaha!
masterbeat04 1 year ago
what the hell, horrible.
ConcretePie 1 year ago
Sabian B8s are one level above the zbts imo.
MANNY295555 1 year ago
@MANNY295555 they are the same level, sabian b8 pro are like zxts and sabian apx are like zildjian zhts
jesse17ful 1 year ago
I have this cymbal as well. I use it more as a ride though. Dont really like the crash sound it has. Other than that its great. I got it for about 70$ at my local music store.
MrX474 1 year ago
Is that 175$ good price for ZBT 3 CYMBAL SET-UP including: 13" Hi-hat
14" crash 18" crashride ?
usually I play jazzrock
makikaki15 1 year ago
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@makikaki15 yeah man. if you are looking for something cheap...
MardyBumOfficial 1 year ago
is this any good for a secondary ride or sumthin
plasticfood13 1 year ago
i have sabian b8s and the zbt sound alot better for the money
ramonbunny69 1 year ago
@ramonbunny69 but which lasted longer??
AmbitiousMOnkey1100 1 year ago
ZILDJIAN A CUSTOM CYMBAL PACK FTW lol
CalientexNinja 1 year ago
i have this and i hate it tooo long of a ring and they bell suck :D
nachosam98 1 year ago
i have this but mine is zbt they are pretty sweet
ADDICTIVEGAMENFREAK 1 year ago
i need tht cymbal .....i need a crash ride .....
borderjumper67 2 years ago
@borderjumper67 dont this cymbal sucks it might sound good to you know but i will really start to annoy you. i got a ZBT starter pack w this, 13" hi-hats, and a free 14" crash. i went to guitar center 3 months after i got this and traded it in for 50$ off of my ZHT medium ride, i still have the hi-hats but i use ZHT mastersound 14". the crash i love but i might get rid of it in about 2-3 years.
Honstly crash-rides arent good to me i like having my crash.....then my ride but thats just me.
chrisx8x23x95 1 year ago
@Shortyfinlybob they are just d-bags and cant handle the truth!
XDrUmErBoY512X 2 years ago
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Shortyfinlybob 2 years ago
Ive been playing for 2 years whats a better alternative that isnt too much more than the price of ZBTS?
AllyLadas180 2 years ago
I personally like the Sabian Xs20, there's a big pack of them on musicians friend for 500. That's kind of a lot though c: if you can afford that, it's worth it. Sabian B8s sound better I think (and I tend to favor zildjian)
Ummm ZXTs are like 300? now I think, for the pack of course.
My advice, save your money. 2 years of drumming means you should look into some good parts.
Shortyfinlybob 2 years ago
meinl hcs
thatbritishdrummer 2 years ago
paiste pst 5s or meinl hcs
syth506 2 years ago
@syth506 meinl mcs are better then both:D!
snerl69 2 years ago
yeah i have a paiste alpha 22 ride my dream cymbal is chris adlers 24 pure metal ride
syth506 2 years ago
@Shortyfinlybob I totally agree with you 100% but then again. they are GREAT cymbals for beginers
XDrUmErBoY512X 2 years ago
They are great, I don't know why I got two thumbs down for my last comment, which I removed; but anyway, I still stand by what I said on the crash, it's garbage.
It's great for beginners, it's what I started with, but that doesn't change the fact that the quality of these cymbals are... bad. Haha, I'd replace them rather quickly if you're serious about drumming.
Sabian B8s I honestly think are the BEST begging cymbals out there.
Shortyfinlybob 2 years ago
yea... I started out with Zbt's and after like 3 month I switched because I didnt like the sound anymore and now Im playing with Zxt's and my next cymbals are going to be Pitch black cymbals.
XDrUmErBoY512X 2 years ago
@XDrUmErBoY512X NO! Do NOT go Pitch Black! Those things are SO bad. The only good thing about them is they look cool.
Hammy0924 5 months ago
virginia's drum hardware is NOT cheap at all!!!
DeathDrummer198 2 years ago
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i think zildjian blows, get somthin from sabian or paiste
TheMisfit123456789 2 years ago
@TheMisfit123456789 You think they blow because you're a moron. The A Custom series crashes sound fricken amazing. Not like sabians which pretty much sound like thick unhammered plates. And i have no idea why people go for paiste cymbals. The high frequency of those is just ridiculous. If your hearing is pretty good you'll ruin it within a month of playing paiste cymbals.
Zildjians are awesome. ZBT series is el cheapo though, but still sounds way better than sabians el cheapo series.
ronnysoeberg 2 years ago
Totally agreed! The majority of Paiste cymbals are made out of B8 bronze, which is the same as what's found on low end Zildjians, Sabians and Meinls.
djfireball999 2 years ago
@ronnysoeberg Could not agree more with your statement.
Hammy0924 5 months ago
@ronnysoeberg Why can't someone else bash Zildjian but you can bash the other popular cymbal companies? Fuck off, hypocrite. Paiste, Sabian and Zildjian are all great cymbal makers, quit being biased asshole. I'm a proud owner of all three companies.
punk9999643 5 months ago 5
zxt ride is better imo
im1just1here1 2 years ago
it would be , its hammered in a more complex way
airsoftguitardrum900 2 years ago
My friend bought the pack and they all sound pretty good.The hi hats are thin and need to be mounted on a stand with tension adjustment to keep them from choking up.
namniekib 2 years ago
my friend got the pack and it is shit, High Hats are sweet though
goggiftw 2 years ago
yes here in mexico zbt`s are chaper than paiste
angelrend 2 years ago
if you want a well priced good qaulity cymbal dont waste your time on zbt's. Paiste pst 5's are cheaper and are farrrrr better than the likes of these. Paiste really are the best.
100010101000101 2 years ago
here in PERU zbt are so much cheaper than pst5
favd2002 2 years ago
no way
Scoota199 2 years ago
i have that one an 18" 45 china and a 18"45 crash
they sound amazing
angelrend 2 years ago
ive got that
KiddyExtreme 2 years ago
is there any difference between crash/ride and a normal ride?
PrayForPlagues931 2 years ago
yea crash/rides u can use as a crash or a ride and a normal ride only as a ride
adozenlies97 2 years ago
crash/ride it a mix off both. It's genarally stated that they are not as good as a true crash or a true ride. And a standard ride will be more prenounced and bigger. Better sticking, overal better really
KSindustries 2 years ago
actually not a bad crash ride considering the price.
KSindustries 2 years ago
the zbt 20" ride sounds great for its price
RockBandDrumRuler 2 years ago
yea theyre awesome!!!!! i have a 20" ride, 10" splash 14" hats and a 16" crash but the crash sounds like shit lol
adozenlies97 2 years ago
yeah, sounds like shoot!!
gonzodelay 2 years ago
Does ZBT cymbals have a lathing process?
camarofan101 2 years ago
yah
KSindustries 2 years ago
Lol ?? Paiste 101 is not a bad cymbal ! It sound around the same as those ZHT , ZBT B8 etc.
anthologyzz 2 years ago
is it good sound in zildjian zbt crash/ride?
are im gonna buy it? :)
Nisse7000 2 years ago
please help me!.. to all drummers out there, I in need your expert advices.. what do you think is the best cymbals that is not that expensive?... aside from a customs and K.. i cant afford them.. is sabian b8 or paiste 101 better than Zildjian ZBT?? please reply tnx..
marktom28 2 years ago
paiste 101s are bad
zildjian zbt and sabian b8s are roughly the same level b8s are a little better
punkrockrebel101 2 years ago 4
sabian xs20 are my favourite, they may cost more but you get what you pay for
AAaaRrOoNn09 2 years ago
ya i think b8s are a little better than the zbt's.
twindrummers64 2 years ago
zildjian zbt are cheap but sound pretty bad (been there done that) b8 owns them
magikarpp 2 years ago
I hate B8's, ZBT are much better!
I have this cymbal, but the ZBT logo is different... :S
Dont know why...
maggotvenger94 2 years ago
these are the new type of zbt's i know wat ur talking about my friend has some theyre really the same
adozenlies97 2 years ago
i used to have this it sounded like poopoo i had to put duck tape on the bottom
Zildjian513 2 years ago
i reckon the ride sounds kinda gongy. i got the ZBT set the hi hats r awesome
qapl456 3 years ago
thats a good ride
mountaindew3486 3 years ago
i have this cymbol, its okay, its cheap (in price) and sounds pretty good,
DruMMerFan721 3 years ago
I've got the ZBT4 and the ride is awful it will ring for a year
OnlineMusicReviews 3 years ago
you have to add some ducktape on the bottom of your ride, then it stops the ringing
funkylegz 3 years ago
how much duct tape and does it matter were, like closer to the bow or closer to the bell?
KSindustries 2 years ago
i taped it with 4 x 15CM (5.5inch) strokes closer to the bow then to the bell, but don't go to close to the bow or it will sound even shittier
funkylegz 2 years ago
well its better if u put it on the bottom of the cymbal, closer to the edge
adozenlies97 2 years ago
well the thing about ZBT's and crash rides is, ZBT's break easy, and all crash rides are more of a crash or more of a ride, since they are ZBT's not every one will sound the same...mines ok for crashes, terrible ride
link0867 3 years ago
I got this for Christmas today. Only mine isn't ride/crash it's just crash.
DeathCail 3 years ago
I love the sound of this cymbal!
keeearrr 3 years ago
That's what I've got, it's so great. I wish it had more ride to it all around, but within the shoulder, near the bell, it sounds awesome as a ride. It's also a good, long, healthy crash sound too.
nocturnezero 3 years ago
That cymbal broke for me after a year, but before it broke, it was an extremely good, versatile cymbal!
chewiemalmsteen 3 years ago 14
how did it break?
Danny011189 3 years ago
I hit it too hard too often I guess. I'm pretty sure I was playing Killswitch Engage when it broke :)
chewiemalmsteen 3 years ago
I wanna buy!
mrlee992 3 years ago 2
No you don't. It's a terrible, terrible, terrible cymbal. Never buy it.
Colerosity 3 years ago 13
thats exactly the comment i was looking for. mine is such crap. it sounds so horrible and there is like no clarity in my hits. ITS GARBAGE.
Roflpower 3 years ago
??? i have this cymbal, and for metal, its great, and it is awesome for the price, it is totally worth the money.
MasiukA 3 years ago
@Colerosity,the bell tone is very pronounced.I always preferred the sabian b8 or even a used b20 crash/ride.
namniekib 1 year ago
@Colerosity its not terrible at all! i have it and it works and sounds good to me. i think it depends how you use it and for what type of music
AlexTheDrummer110 1 year ago
@AlexTheDrummer110 im gonna buy it :) its way better then sabian
Cloudkit90 1 year ago
@Cloudkit90 i hope you didnt buy that peice of shit, dont do it,
CoLuCcIMoB760 1 year ago
@Colerosity its not what u think
its what the drummer is looking for not of what people say about it
jesse17ful 1 year ago
@Colerosity why i was gonna get it but then i saw this comment and i'm worried what's bad about it it's Zildjian .and they dont make crappy cymbal's or do they ??
Huargos1 11 months ago
@Huargos1 Zildjian does make some great cymbals, but their cheapest line (the ZBT/ZXT/etc) are not good quality. Look for K or A cymbals.
Colerosity 11 months ago
@Colerosity OH!! thx 4 the reply ill save for a ''K'' but anyways witch brand u think makes the best cheapest cymbal's SABIAN or ZILDJIAN that's a good question :P
Huargos1 11 months ago
@Huargos1 Meinl makes the best lower price cymbals. I have Meinl hcs series along with zildjian K and zildjian A custom and the Meinl sound Very good
techdrummer1234 10 months ago