I love when people say "period" at the end of some stupid remark. Like it's gonna make people actually listen to your stupid fucking bullshit fetish with some egomaniacal fraudulent trash director.
@mdilla11 Maybe you think it's a stupid remark but this is my opinion. The worst thing is that you call him egomanical fraudulent trash director, as if it's your opinion that matters. Now, get a life and if you don't like his films, don't watch them. In my opinion, he's one of the greatest auteurs of our times. I'm not always a fan of his films, but I appreciate his unique style of directing. And what the hell are you talking about? Fetish? Who said that? You have some issues, don't you?
The only issue I have is having to listen to artsy fartsy overdramatic people like you. So, let me get this straight: You're not always a fan of the films of someone who doesn't make that many films to begin with, yet you say that he is one of the greatest directors of "our times"? Yeah that makes sense. Also, I love how you use the word 'auteur' in place of director. I was almost impressed. Not enough to overlook you're nonsense response, unfortunately.
@mdilla11 Bitch, please. First of all, if you hate him so much, what the fuck are you doing here? You love trolling, don't you? Seriously, get a life. Secondly, just because a couple of his films didn't impress me the way the others did, doesn't mean that he's not a great director. Even his less impressive films have something to say and his vision is unique and compelling. Now, seriously, I look at your other posts here and you're just trolling. I'm not going to continue this nonsense.
Just because I'm trolling doesn't mean I'm wrong about what I'm saying. Maybe you should stop trying to get thumbs up on youtube. Vision is unique and compelling, blah blah, i've heard it all before. "Bitch, please?" Haha, how old are you, 10?
watched this in a warm and small cinema with my dad. In the middle of the movie I scratched my chest cause I was so sweaty and I felt several dead flies stuck in my chest hair. That was unsetteling. My name is Lars btw.
Such freaks of patients dipreshins, it would be necessary to know the v-person that remove nearb,y stand to sit and not to have something in common therefore as Stinks from them of nazism...and antisemi...That everyone knew from it the mean Lars Fon Trier physiognomy stinks of nazism and racism....
Both films had me transfixed from start to finish.
I also enjoyed The Idiots.
This guy creates interesting and fascinating pieces of work , they are the antithesis of the recent and current crop of remakes, comic book adaptations,formula thrillers,lame comedies and sugar-sweet rom coms.
von Trier has said in several interviews that he only ever really works with two main characters; the disturbed female and the sadistic male. I think an important thing to take from Antichrist is how evil the HE character is (Willem Defoe). The SHE (Gainsbourg) is startlingly ashamed of her self as a woman and a mother, which occurred the summer before in her intensive study of gynocide. She is fully human in that sense, whereas HE, with no defined intent fully takes advantage of her. outofspace
you misunderstood me, not writing the movie, i am refering to what people write on this page, repeating what they've heard, taking words of others and making them their own, not what Von Trier wrote, no, there is hardwork behind the movie...i just dont like the way people "excuse" the way he tortures animals and treats his actresses for the sake of a beautiful movie, it would like torturing people mentally, take them in photo and expose them as "pieces of art", it would be stupid....
this is what i dont like about artsy fartsy people on youtube, they connect themselves to any musician, director or writer and they say, this is an artist vision that is beyond words or explanation, this artist is no intense in his matter that he doesnt need to explain his siubject, both mentally and physically he makes amend to his cultural BLABLABLABLABLA we can allllll write this crap, in then end, none of you makes sense or explains his sexist, rude, pathetic ways of portraying women....
We can all write this crap? Let me see you create an equal mess in Cannes!
If art can be fully explained logically there is no point in making it. The point of art is to go beyond words and explanation.
Essentially there are only two persons in the equation: you and the sender. It's about what you feel, not what other people say you must feel or how you think you should feel.
if there is only one, universal truth, are half of the people who saw antichrist dumb? i don't think so
Great cinematography, freaky story and very disturbing imagery. The explanation is understandable-'depression'-plus the subject matter is quite sad-the storyline and flow was very unsettling...GREAT FILM.
It is surely a multiple view type of film...Dafoe is amazing and Gainsbourg is very scary
Great cinematography, freaky story and very disturbing imagery. The explanation is understandable-'depression'-plus the subject matter is quite sad-the storyline and flow was very unsettling...GREAT FILM.
Bjork :"You can take quite sexist film directors like Woody Allen or Stanley Kubrick and still they are the one that provide the soul to their movies. In Lars von Trier's case it is not so and he knows it. He needs a female to provide his work soul, and he envies them and hates them for it. So he has to destroy them during the filming, and hide the evidence."
(He wasn't always a "von" either - he first adopted the aristocratic prefix in his student days.)Loser
when you have so much trouble explaining your movie and most of the sentences he makes in this interview are empty of sense. It makes me tired of listening to him. He needs help...he sounds like Lorraine from Mad TV...his films are about torturing women, seeing them in decay, hurt, broken, helpless, that movie wanted me to go see him and slap him in the face. Its like abstract painting, it might be beautiful to look at but when you leave, the emotions arent there, it doesnt move me, its dead.
when you have so much trouble explaining your movie and most of the sentences he makes in this interview are empty of sense. It makes me tired of listening to him. He needs help...he sounds like Lorraine from Mad TV...his films are about torturing women, seeing them in decay, hurt, broken, helpless, that movie wanted me to go see him and slap him in the face. Its like abstract painting, it might be beautiful to look at but when you leave, the emotions arent there, it doesnt move me, its dead.
@nonballs Eh, too many of those kinds of directors. I wish that film-makers wouldn't be one way or the other, but be like Stanley Kubrick, he can switch in the middle of his films! Like in A Clockwork Orange, where he contrasts the sadistic rapist/murderer Alex with the brainwashed, decent Alex, and make you sympathize and hate him at the same time.
Metaphorically speaking, the label "abstract" for a painting in today's sense is som random colours pushed together. Which can look pretty. But that's all. Take Surrealism. Provocative art. Dalían art per say. Something that fucks shit up. Questions the status quo. That's where Von Trier's at. And he's a fucking genius. Anti Christ was as the wise critic said, that's, a grotesque masterpiece.
You know its funny people who hate this movie said the exact same thing when Natural Born Killers came out or A Clock Work Orange, Murderous Maids ect. You'd be a sucker if all you can't see past the "meaningless violence". I'm beginning to think most of you people hate it because you people don't understand the movie. Some peoples standards are just way to high.
this depressed faggot should kill himself. but thats all part of this talentless hack's "artistic" persona. all you pseudo-intellectual pretentious faggots are falling for it out of desperation to feel like you are part of some "art" loving community. fuck off. i wish i would run into this faggot on the street so i can call him out for the fraud he is to his faggot face.
It is an astonishing piece of art..it was dedicated to Andrei Tarkovsky's genius work. His vision and philosophical speech about where the true evil is in the human condition is very inspiring and intellectually very satisfying...
@cineasta71 lmao typical pompous pretentious faggot response "you didn't understand it". there's nothing to understand. but stupid homos like you trying to fit into some "intellectual" circle on some "ya i totally get it" bullshit. fuck you and this pile of shit of a movie.bunch of smucks. this von trier faggot laughing at you for falling for this farce. as am i.
@est623ce "IF YOU THINK ALL THE MEN YOU TALK TO ON YOUTUBE ARE FAGGOTS OR HOMOS YOU MUST BE LATINO" George Lopez...go watch you feisty macho soaperas juanito!!!!
I don't agree with "The Ring being fantastic"(thjose words), only to point out that was the only thing i did'nt agree with him. The part with "images that you are not used to" right after; AGREE!
I feel sorry for him. He seems like a rather pathetic person. I didn't think this film was all that shocking as everyone is making it out to be--the Saw films are just as bad, for example. But in his case, it's a picture of something going on inside of him, and it ain't pretty. And also kind of self indulgent and ... inadvertently silly? Talking animals silly?
Antichrist is NOT a gore horror movie, so please don't compare it to Saw. If that was the only thing you concluded after watching it, then you should stick to the blockbusters.
@2007anonimus Oh pretentious one, you should learn to read. I said that the movie isn't that shocking--no more shocking than Saw. That doesn't mean I am saying AntiChrist is a horror movie. It means that it wasn't any more horrifying than any other movie with shock tactics. But as I said, the movie is actually about what is going on inside Von Trier, which is not to say its intentions are to shock or scare the audience.
U dont get it, I meant that Antichrist goes much beyond trying to shock people,and is, in my perception,much more universal than-what is going on-inside him. I honestly think that you should watch the movie again and try to notice that.Believe me, the last thing that I want is to bring up one more stupid youtube arguement, but when I saw that you compared Antichrist, one of the most powerful films I have ever seen, to Saw (which is no more than entertaning) it kinda pised me off
I believe "provoking" is a really unffair term to both describe and understand Von Tirer's cinema. I believe this director goes far beyond that in any of his movies. Being provoked is just a matter of experimenting arbitrarily different and unexpected emotions without having actually a reference for them. I believe the philosophical concern of "Anthichrist" is a really deep and fundamental human matter, namely: the intimate relation between erotism and the sacred ("Nature's Church").
I think you've got some problems, man. Hating something like a film as much as you presumably do illustrates some kind of internal confliction(s) you have.
Settle down, bro. If you don't like the film you don't have to. No need to impose your will upon those who do.
And on top of that you're making very ignorant assumptions and doing nothing but proving you do not or cannot have the mindset needed to appreciate a film of this caliber.
@TRPLSX lmao @ mindset. ya im not a stupid pretentious lemming that that needs to stare at a pile of shit for 2 hours to extract meaning out of it. it like this movie is nothing but shit at the end of the day.
You're not a 'stupid pretentious lemming', you're just a dumbass. Do you even have the intelligence to pick apart a film, to realize why it's bad? No, you just resort to second grade level insults as cover for your ineptitude. Just go away.
@TRPLSX lmao your username is trplsx and you have an upside down cross as an icon. you're so original. lmao i mean what else needs to be said? shits corny. you're a braindead "antichrist" zealot.
the antichrist is Yahweh Ben Yahweh his real name (Hulon Mitchell, Jr.) leader of the so-called black hebrew israelites in america He originally tried to base his teachings on twisting Christian doctrine Yahweh and his followers are referred to as a “killer cult,” Those who followed Yahweh Ben Yahweh viewed him as the Messiah you can look up black hebrew israelites, his followers preaching in the streets saying america will be detroyed calling the white men the devil and much more i have videos
Very special - there are two groups- the one who love him (as a master) and the other one- who don't like him - because his films arer always about depression and sad. Is sadness the truth... thats one of the central questions.
The Antichrist is the only one who makes the depression direct to a passion. But it's probematic ... he is not old and wise ..he takes to much of religion from the past... he takes it from the church- Luther...
@thefilmjock True that he does seem very aware of his gift, but to me he still always seemed like the nicest guy you'd ever meet. If you watch The 5 Obstructions he's so charming in a "pre-pubescent with a new toy"-kinda way.
@ccsdavis1 then why would you go onto youtube and watch an interview about the film?? dont you have anything better to do than watch videos and make comments about a movie you think is terrible? im so sick of jerk offs like you spreading your negativity around. why dont you do something positive with your life.
@bobhawker I watch this video because I'm a huge Von Trier fan. It actually saddened me that I didn't enjoy "Antichrist" like I wanted to. I can only comment on a video if I agree with it or like the film its based on? No way, friend. If that's the case, YouTube wouldn't need the "dislike" button at all. I can watch a Von Trier interview for any reason I wish, so save the "jerk-off" insult for someone who really deserves it. My post = my opinion. Yours = yours. Let's be pleasant to each other.
@ccsdavis1 yes, you are right, we should be pleasant to each other. i am sorry. i guess i just thought you were one of the many people that seem to be on youtube that just seek out videos about things they dislike or have no interest in purely to make negative comments, when you obviously are not.
So was Wagner. But he remains as important to music nonetheless. Von Trier is nothing less than the Wagner of Film. Everything after him will have to come to terms with what he has accomplished.
Von Trier is an absolute charlatan. In this interview alone he contradicts himself a countless number of times and even admits to not believing in his own theories and methods. The man craves any controversy he can attract with nonsense, shock-value, and any other cheap trick he can muster... This movie looks like it has potential though... Haaaa
i think its his own take on the eternal aesthetics of the Oresteia by Aeschylus. Primal reality vs reason and beauty. It is interesting how the protagonists merge between the two, until the Apollonian destroys the Dionysian while realising that they will always be a part of nature its self. There is no union like there is in the Oresteia, a reflection on Lars' own depressed view of life at the time.
does anyone hold artist accountable for their work, or do people just let them "like the devil" because they make Art with a capital A? just because it is inside of you, it doesn't mean you are helping anyone by spewing it on them. Art is expression, not dehumanizing actors for your own end.
Antichrist will emerge between Shaam and Iraq. He will say:I am Christ and your god, and he will have with him fire and water, but in reality the fire will be cold water while that what appears to be cold water will in reality be a blazing fire. He will have one eye.The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" (Disbelieve) will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all faithful.He will have a wheatish complexion. He will stay 40 days, and he will travel at great speeds.He will die by Jesus.
von trier does not obligied to explain, even to understand himself. it depends on a viewer who is to ask himself. this film is quite an abstract philosofical work, and questioning only multiply and draws director's thoughts away. this is when artist better speaks trough what he does, not articulates, to my opinion.
nobody argues a movie (in general) is to contain an idea. what I mean is the matter of individual perception. A directors's task is to involve viewer into percepting and specifying his own aspect of this author's ''idea''. Good director is the one who anyway have a post-factum critical view on his own work, I think.
Guys, I'm amazed on how ANYONE understands what this film is about... Don't you see the clear signs of Genesis, Adam and Eve, The EDEM, humanity represented in both Defoe's character and his wife?
I've watched other interviews of Von Trier: he's always making mock of the whole thing: there's nothing to say, for an artist, beyond de ouvre d'art itself. That's why he doesn't explain or clarifies any of the contempts, not beyond what's obvious "It's about evil nature"...
small world. No wonder the chap is running on fumes and depressed enough to produce that movie.
Still from the single interview I have read with him I think he knows what it is that drives him but doesnt want to flag his belief on the topic, it would ruin the image and essentially the message,
I haven't seen Anti-Christ yet, but Lars Von Trier is not exactly what i'd call a 'deep' film maker. His films provoke reactions, yes, but they are also extremely obvious, for the most part.
i'm glad he is over the 'persecuted nice woman' phase.
i don't know how anyone can slag off any of his films. they may not be great films in the generic cinematic sense but at the very least they provoke thought and response. no matter the morals, no matter the subject, no matter the brain matter behind it: good art provokes some and inspires others. this and this each and every time for me. what do you want? "dude, where's my car?".
I don't think they provoke any thought bu they do get a shocking response much like David Lynch who is one of my least favorite filmmakers.
I hear Trier's earlier work is impressive though & even Steven Spielberg likes his work so I'll check it out anyway despite finding Antichrist a gratuitous piece of work
You're very right - I'm not upset about the film. The film is trite and embarrassing... Cheap stunts for notoriety of the Gaspar Noe sort.
But I think "I'm the greatest director.." should be taken the same way it would if you were sitting at the same dinner table with the guy. There would be alot of raised eyebrows, as there have been in the world media.
But see, now you are focusing attention to the director and not the movie. What does it mattert what he said or did? His persona and his statemnts don't take anything from the movie.
The movie is about the movie, not about the director.
You fail to understand that movie like any other work of art is an entity in itself. If a painter is a scumbag does that make his painting any different? No.
And as far supposed sexism and megalomania go, if you think that you failed to understand the movie.
And thanks for your "moral guardianship" but I dont think we ll be needing that.
Let's talk about the "entity": throwing dicks, pussies, satan, witches, maggots, into a pot and stirring it up. No big deal, but then people come along and say it's got opera music, and it's got very cheap-blue-filter cinematography so therefore it is coherent, transcendent, mystical, and other bullshit. Fact: it's just another hysterical woman being patronized by a yet another father figure. Oh and let's avenge the little dead boy.
I don't know if I read this movie right but I don't think it's misogyne. Dafoe's part represents order but he's arrogant and dominant trying to force his view by being sweet talking and manipulative.
She's also doing alot of passive-agressive victim-type manipulation which of course is decidedly evil.
Whether that's really an insult to femininity is debatable. It's connected, but spineless men can definately do the same.
Sexuality needs to be controlled for both sexes I guess he's sayin.
Once you corrupt a virgin, she can only become a whore.
I TOO QUESTION THIS DUALITY. There is not a credibile alternative to this duality in Antichrist.
A credible alternative must be a ROLE MODEL. The "She" in this movie is just a hysterical festering forest.
LVT's admission that the idea came out of "depression" is nothing but a calculated attempt to conceal the blind rage in this movie, which is indeed cathartically satisfied in "She's" immolation.
Yvamarquer: The question is not Lars von Trier`s relationship with women but the popular(sexist) belief that the assumed female softness, tenderness and motherhood cannot be corrupted. follow the news and you will see that your system of values is nothing more than a comfortable illusion. And why should a male cinematographer not depict female sexuality? this is the same argumentation than the assumption that a european director could not shoot a movie about the US.
jemp220100 - if you're saying "femininity" should be allowed to be corrupted - and then once it is - you say it must die and be immolated, then you're revealing something quite peculiar. I'm saying the corruption in the movie is LVT's own self-hatred speaking. Just comparing it to myriad versions of hysterical, amazonian sexuality that men have always "sought" (fantasized, filmed) only to then repress it.
Men make movies about women all the time,! But Antichrist ain't no Thelma & Louise.
LVT says the catalyst for this movie was depression. That's a con trick because it appeals to your empathy, and deflects any responsibility he should have for the film's content.
LVT says here that it's a an exercise in what he "doesn't believe in". Again, deflecting responsibility.
It's so cheap and obvious that his intention is solely to shock with what "hasn't been done before", and he's reached into his own fantasies of hatred like a fucking nazi.
"he's reached his into his own fantasies of hatred like a fucking nazi."
You know he makes films, right? Movies... fiction.
Also, I'm sure he takes full responsibility, and pride, for all the film's content. I find his films to be brutally honest and beautiful. What is the con?
Human beings live in a constant balance between fiction and reality. So even fiction must be weighed against truth.
This film, like many bad forms of modern "art" just resorts to shock value. It's a lie because the guy (LVT) says it's serious art. He said "I'm the greatest director in the world" at Cannes (twice for emphasis). That statement alone is a clue that this is just an antisocial asshole talking, trying to shift the attention away from the content of his "work".
But Lars Von Trier as a director/personality doesn't live between fiction and reality... he creates and manufactures fiction. You can never know him as a real person through his films and interviews (as you can't know Werner Herzog or Gaspar Noe), so comments like "I'm the greatest director in the world," should not be taken literally.
It seems you have more of a personal vendetta against LVT, as opposed to being really upset about the film (which would be fine... but why hate LVT so much?)
It depends how you take the ending. For me it was too ridiculous to be taken seriously, it moved into symbolic irony. Defoe's bewildered face in scenes where he's presented as some heroic conquering man? I think not. Does "rational man" strangle his wife? Isn't that an admission of his own "nature"? I believe some of his earlier films were misogynistic however, which may explain the depression followed by this film ey? It makes so much sense it could almost be true. Rob x
I don't (personally) believe Dafoe was presented as a conquering man, or even as a rational man. I found that the film demonstrated Von Trier's depression in that it examined the loss of humanity on the part of the man and his wife. It didn't feel misogynistic so much as misanthropic.
I went to film school, and all those faggots wanted to talk about was Batman, 300, and video games. I doubt this man's fans are film students. Literacy is a prerequisite for enjoying his films.
I went to film-school and we had a few weeks dedicated to Lars Von Triers films methods and psycology. This is a fascinating man with amazing dedication. No director quite like him.
True, I have anger about the subject - because the film itself is full of anger and dishonesty.
It's spectacle posing as (pretending to be) metaphysical discourse. Spectacle is: violence, prurience, "blasphemy" and other bullshit, etc... And in this movie, those are ratched up to uncotrollable levels, just to hide the lack of meaning. I've just tried to pointing it out, as clearly as I can, in case there might be some fruitful discussion.
U can't spell.
Blabersmakavitch 2 months ago
@Blabersmakavitch *you
drummerjoe2610 1 month ago 3
Lars is one of the best directors of our times. Period.
JohnTripinTokyo 3 months ago 11
@JohnTripinTokyo
I love when people say "period" at the end of some stupid remark. Like it's gonna make people actually listen to your stupid fucking bullshit fetish with some egomaniacal fraudulent trash director.
mdilla11 3 weeks ago
@mdilla11 Maybe you think it's a stupid remark but this is my opinion. The worst thing is that you call him egomanical fraudulent trash director, as if it's your opinion that matters. Now, get a life and if you don't like his films, don't watch them. In my opinion, he's one of the greatest auteurs of our times. I'm not always a fan of his films, but I appreciate his unique style of directing. And what the hell are you talking about? Fetish? Who said that? You have some issues, don't you?
JohnTripinTokyo 3 weeks ago
@JohnTripinTokyo
The only issue I have is having to listen to artsy fartsy overdramatic people like you. So, let me get this straight: You're not always a fan of the films of someone who doesn't make that many films to begin with, yet you say that he is one of the greatest directors of "our times"? Yeah that makes sense. Also, I love how you use the word 'auteur' in place of director. I was almost impressed. Not enough to overlook you're nonsense response, unfortunately.
mdilla11 2 weeks ago
@mdilla11 Bitch, please. First of all, if you hate him so much, what the fuck are you doing here? You love trolling, don't you? Seriously, get a life. Secondly, just because a couple of his films didn't impress me the way the others did, doesn't mean that he's not a great director. Even his less impressive films have something to say and his vision is unique and compelling. Now, seriously, I look at your other posts here and you're just trolling. I'm not going to continue this nonsense.
JohnTripinTokyo 2 weeks ago
@JohnTripinTokyo
Just because I'm trolling doesn't mean I'm wrong about what I'm saying. Maybe you should stop trying to get thumbs up on youtube. Vision is unique and compelling, blah blah, i've heard it all before. "Bitch, please?" Haha, how old are you, 10?
mdilla11 2 weeks ago
@mdilla11 you know what is sad? i agree with your opinion of von trier, and i still think you are a fucking idiot
IbeJigsaw 6 days ago
@IbeJigsaw
Why would you think I'm a fucking idiot if you agree with me? I don't get that logic
mdilla11 5 days ago
@mdilla11 well the way ur an arrogant fuck lol
IbeJigsaw 5 days ago
@IbeJigsaw
You're just assuming i'm an arrogant fuck. You have no basis. You just want to bicker.
mdilla11 5 days ago
the price of been very very smart, is the depression, the sadness, all very very smart people are. i fell bad for that.
ask4me25 4 months ago
@ask4me25
Yeah fortunately for you you're not one of them. You're good at using the word 'very' though. i fell bad for that. Give me a fucking break.
mdilla11 3 weeks ago
Seems like he invited something he shouldnt have.
huertalouis77 4 months ago
Phase*, not fase lol. The video didn't spell that correctly
Tebay71 4 months ago
When he says "....not being there at a critical moment." 6:14 ish
I assume he's talking about the window scene.
But that doesn't take consideration of the wrong foot shoe thing she was doing.... anyone?
Shawnruss 7 months ago
Antichrist is a movie which can blow you away
Dont just focus on the sexual sense
look at how Lars portray the devil side of human beings!
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montecarlostar 8 months ago
Lieber , Weise Von Trier.
vovulkaz 8 months ago
watched this in a warm and small cinema with my dad. In the middle of the movie I scratched my chest cause I was so sweaty and I felt several dead flies stuck in my chest hair. That was unsetteling. My name is Lars btw.
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Such freaks of patients dipreshins, it would be necessary to know the v-person that remove nearb,y stand to sit and not to have something in common therefore as Stinks from them of nazism...and antisemi...That everyone knew from it the mean Lars Fon Trier physiognomy stinks of nazism and racism....
shevaleraR 8 months ago
the problem with antichrist is not that it's horrifying. the problem with it is it's boring.
xcapote 8 months ago
von trier sucks so fucking hard. antichrist sucked so much dick. and his goddamn jokes are just bizarre. faggot.
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danrei1983 8 months ago
fucking lovely bitch VON TRIER!
Nadianva 8 months ago
I love Antichrist and also Breaking the Waves.
Both films had me transfixed from start to finish.
I also enjoyed The Idiots.
This guy creates interesting and fascinating pieces of work , they are the antithesis of the recent and current crop of remakes, comic book adaptations,formula thrillers,lame comedies and sugar-sweet rom coms.
bankruptstate 9 months ago 3
a guy needs some help...
slivovich 9 months ago
I don't like this guy. Why does all his films have to have tragic endings? Lighten up man. Hack.
carbine125 9 months ago
von Trier has said in several interviews that he only ever really works with two main characters; the disturbed female and the sadistic male. I think an important thing to take from Antichrist is how evil the HE character is (Willem Defoe). The SHE (Gainsbourg) is startlingly ashamed of her self as a woman and a mother, which occurred the summer before in her intensive study of gynocide. She is fully human in that sense, whereas HE, with no defined intent fully takes advantage of her. outofspace
mclaughlinjames7 11 months ago
@mclaughlinjames7
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jandro 11 months ago
the vision is of a brutality not many can capture in their minds.
frozenghost233 11 months ago
Antichrist is about human nature and how women are animals...
CuateGolden 1 year ago
you misunderstood me, not writing the movie, i am refering to what people write on this page, repeating what they've heard, taking words of others and making them their own, not what Von Trier wrote, no, there is hardwork behind the movie...i just dont like the way people "excuse" the way he tortures animals and treats his actresses for the sake of a beautiful movie, it would like torturing people mentally, take them in photo and expose them as "pieces of art", it would be stupid....
rosemont1980 1 year ago
this is what i dont like about artsy fartsy people on youtube, they connect themselves to any musician, director or writer and they say, this is an artist vision that is beyond words or explanation, this artist is no intense in his matter that he doesnt need to explain his siubject, both mentally and physically he makes amend to his cultural BLABLABLABLABLA we can allllll write this crap, in then end, none of you makes sense or explains his sexist, rude, pathetic ways of portraying women....
rosemont1980 1 year ago
@rosemont1980
We can all write this crap? Let me see you create an equal mess in Cannes!
If art can be fully explained logically there is no point in making it. The point of art is to go beyond words and explanation.
Essentially there are only two persons in the equation: you and the sender. It's about what you feel, not what other people say you must feel or how you think you should feel.
if there is only one, universal truth, are half of the people who saw antichrist dumb? i don't think so
Countbep 1 year ago
Great cinematography, freaky story and very disturbing imagery. The explanation is understandable-'depression'-plus the subject matter is quite sad-the storyline and flow was very unsettling...GREAT FILM.
It is surely a multiple view type of film...Dafoe is amazing and Gainsbourg is very scary
liveecarbme 1 year ago 9
@liveecarbme
Yeah multiple views are probably necessary for anyone who's dumb enough to watch this movie in the first place. Good advice. Surely.
mdilla11 3 weeks ago
Great cinematography, freaky story and very disturbing imagery. The explanation is understandable-'depression'-plus the subject matter is quite sad-the storyline and flow was very unsettling...GREAT FILM.
It is surely a multiple view type of film...
liveecarbme 1 year ago
Bjork :"You can take quite sexist film directors like Woody Allen or Stanley Kubrick and still they are the one that provide the soul to their movies. In Lars von Trier's case it is not so and he knows it. He needs a female to provide his work soul, and he envies them and hates them for it. So he has to destroy them during the filming, and hide the evidence."
(He wasn't always a "von" either - he first adopted the aristocratic prefix in his student days.)Loser
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when you have so much trouble explaining your movie and most of the sentences he makes in this interview are empty of sense. It makes me tired of listening to him. He needs help...he sounds like Lorraine from Mad TV...his films are about torturing women, seeing them in decay, hurt, broken, helpless, that movie wanted me to go see him and slap him in the face. Its like abstract painting, it might be beautiful to look at but when you leave, the emotions arent there, it doesnt move me, its dead.
rosemont1980 1 year ago
when you have so much trouble explaining your movie and most of the sentences he makes in this interview are empty of sense. It makes me tired of listening to him. He needs help...he sounds like Lorraine from Mad TV...his films are about torturing women, seeing them in decay, hurt, broken, helpless, that movie wanted me to go see him and slap him in the face. Its like abstract painting, it might be beautiful to look at but when you leave, the emotions arent there, it doesnt move me, its dead.
rosemont1980 1 year ago
Phase.
ralfsu 1 year ago
After watching this interview i wouldnt have thought he'd make a flick like Anitchrist.
wataki2 1 year ago
Lars Von Trier is the greatest 'make you feel like shit' director living today. Heneke is totally jealous.
nonballs 1 year ago
@nonballs Eh, too many of those kinds of directors. I wish that film-makers wouldn't be one way or the other, but be like Stanley Kubrick, he can switch in the middle of his films! Like in A Clockwork Orange, where he contrasts the sadistic rapist/murderer Alex with the brainwashed, decent Alex, and make you sympathize and hate him at the same time.
Bassbait 1 year ago
I AM THE ANTICHRIST!!!
IH666WH 1 year ago
Metaphorically speaking, the label "abstract" for a painting in today's sense is som random colours pushed together. Which can look pretty. But that's all. Take Surrealism. Provocative art. Dalían art per say. Something that fucks shit up. Questions the status quo. That's where Von Trier's at. And he's a fucking genius. Anti Christ was as the wise critic said, that's, a grotesque masterpiece.
Auricdeath 1 year ago
Great Lars Von Trier ! Love from Brazil!
infoxtrott 1 year ago
Respect to Lars..
munkesten1 1 year ago
I'M THE ANTICHRIST!
IH666WH 1 year ago
You know its funny people who hate this movie said the exact same thing when Natural Born Killers came out or A Clock Work Orange, Murderous Maids ect. You'd be a sucker if all you can't see past the "meaningless violence". I'm beginning to think most of you people hate it because you people don't understand the movie. Some peoples standards are just way to high.
FUDGEpedals 1 year ago 2
People who like Antichrist the moves. If you like to see how to cut the clit by the scissors you are pervent yourselves
denissoff116 1 year ago
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cineasta71 1 year ago
@denissoff116
go study english! nothing is undestood from your set of words
lolitalo1984 1 year ago
fucking pervent! your place in a asilum near Stolbovaya station. whish you to be a real hero of you r disgusting movies. bastard
denissoff116 1 year ago
this depressed faggot should kill himself. but thats all part of this talentless hack's "artistic" persona. all you pseudo-intellectual pretentious faggots are falling for it out of desperation to feel like you are part of some "art" loving community. fuck off. i wish i would run into this faggot on the street so i can call him out for the fraud he is to his faggot face.
est623ce 1 year ago
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toalman 1 year ago
Dude not to be a dick but if you play 6:20 over and over goddamn its hilarious!
toalman 1 year ago
@toalman
LOL.
firedjay 1 year ago
Antichrist made me a fan!
Auntkekebaby 1 year ago
It is an astonishing piece of art..it was dedicated to Andrei Tarkovsky's genius work. His vision and philosophical speech about where the true evil is in the human condition is very inspiring and intellectually very satisfying...
cineasta71 1 year ago
@cineasta71 shut the fuck up. there's nothing visionary or philosophical about this pile of shit you call art
est623ce 1 year ago
@est623ce Obviously you saw it dumass, you tried to understand it and you failed fucking george lopez fan...
cineasta71 1 year ago
@cineasta71 lmao typical pompous pretentious faggot response "you didn't understand it". there's nothing to understand. but stupid homos like you trying to fit into some "intellectual" circle on some "ya i totally get it" bullshit. fuck you and this pile of shit of a movie.bunch of smucks. this von trier faggot laughing at you for falling for this farce. as am i.
est623ce 1 year ago
@est623ce "IF YOU THINK ALL THE MEN YOU TALK TO ON YOUTUBE ARE FAGGOTS OR HOMOS YOU MUST BE LATINO" George Lopez...go watch you feisty macho soaperas juanito!!!!
Camerador 1 year ago
@est623ce Absolutely right. these movies - a kind of pervent porno which able to show on big screen
denissoff116 1 year ago
get helppppppppppppppppppp u dummmmmmmmmmmmmm bitch
siaty1 1 year ago
this guy is some rubbish he needs some serous help got to church u dumazz
siaty1 1 year ago
@siaty1 go to church, lol....
Vesters1 1 year ago
a fucking genius!!!!
nemesis478 1 year ago 2
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siaty1 1 year ago
I don't agree with "The Ring being fantastic"(thjose words), only to point out that was the only thing i did'nt agree with him. The part with "images that you are not used to" right after; AGREE!
Zejex15 1 year ago
I feel sorry for him. He seems like a rather pathetic person. I didn't think this film was all that shocking as everyone is making it out to be--the Saw films are just as bad, for example. But in his case, it's a picture of something going on inside of him, and it ain't pretty. And also kind of self indulgent and ... inadvertently silly? Talking animals silly?
donnerbrandpear 1 year ago
@donnerbrandpear
Antichrist is NOT a gore horror movie, so please don't compare it to Saw. If that was the only thing you concluded after watching it, then you should stick to the blockbusters.
2007anonimus 1 year ago
@2007anonimus Oh pretentious one, you should learn to read. I said that the movie isn't that shocking--no more shocking than Saw. That doesn't mean I am saying AntiChrist is a horror movie. It means that it wasn't any more horrifying than any other movie with shock tactics. But as I said, the movie is actually about what is going on inside Von Trier, which is not to say its intentions are to shock or scare the audience.
donnerbrandpear 1 year ago
@donnerbrandpear
U dont get it, I meant that Antichrist goes much beyond trying to shock people,and is, in my perception,much more universal than-what is going on-inside him. I honestly think that you should watch the movie again and try to notice that.Believe me, the last thing that I want is to bring up one more stupid youtube arguement, but when I saw that you compared Antichrist, one of the most powerful films I have ever seen, to Saw (which is no more than entertaning) it kinda pised me off
2007anonimus 1 year ago
@2007anonimus lmao you sensitive pretentious prick. saw had more meaning than this piece of garbage.
est623ce 1 year ago
he is danish!!!!!
TheKillxD 1 year ago
I believe "provoking" is a really unffair term to both describe and understand Von Tirer's cinema. I believe this director goes far beyond that in any of his movies. Being provoked is just a matter of experimenting arbitrarily different and unexpected emotions without having actually a reference for them. I believe the philosophical concern of "Anthichrist" is a really deep and fundamental human matter, namely: the intimate relation between erotism and the sacred ("Nature's Church").
huateque1 1 year ago
@huateque1 lmao your comment was nothing but a load of rubbish just like this movie.
est623ce 1 year ago
@est623ce
I think you've got some problems, man. Hating something like a film as much as you presumably do illustrates some kind of internal confliction(s) you have.
Settle down, bro. If you don't like the film you don't have to. No need to impose your will upon those who do.
And on top of that you're making very ignorant assumptions and doing nothing but proving you do not or cannot have the mindset needed to appreciate a film of this caliber.
TRPLSX 1 year ago 2
@TRPLSX lmao @ mindset. ya im not a stupid pretentious lemming that that needs to stare at a pile of shit for 2 hours to extract meaning out of it. it like this movie is nothing but shit at the end of the day.
est623ce 1 year ago
@est623ce
You're not a 'stupid pretentious lemming', you're just a dumbass. Do you even have the intelligence to pick apart a film, to realize why it's bad? No, you just resort to second grade level insults as cover for your ineptitude. Just go away.
TRPLSX 1 year ago
@TRPLSX lmao your username is trplsx and you have an upside down cross as an icon. you're so original. lmao i mean what else needs to be said? shits corny. you're a braindead "antichrist" zealot.
est623ce 1 year ago
I hate that film, its sick ......
360juel 1 year ago
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CrazyFavVideos 1 year ago
I heard he hates 100% of hollywood movies,hahahhah I don't blame him
kondurperusix 1 year ago
Very special - there are two groups- the one who love him (as a master) and the other one- who don't like him - because his films arer always about depression and sad. Is sadness the truth... thats one of the central questions.
The Antichrist is the only one who makes the depression direct to a passion. But it's probematic ... he is not old and wise ..he takes to much of religion from the past... he takes it from the church- Luther...
andreasjacke 1 year ago
He is the best fucking director in the world. It's just a shame he knows it.
thefilmjock 1 year ago 39
@thefilmjock True that he does seem very aware of his gift, but to me he still always seemed like the nicest guy you'd ever meet. If you watch The 5 Obstructions he's so charming in a "pre-pubescent with a new toy"-kinda way.
OptimusNice 10 months ago
@thefilmjock Yeah. It's also a shame that "Antichrist" is such a terrible film.
ccsdavis1 8 months ago
@ccsdavis1 then why would you go onto youtube and watch an interview about the film?? dont you have anything better to do than watch videos and make comments about a movie you think is terrible? im so sick of jerk offs like you spreading your negativity around. why dont you do something positive with your life.
bobhawker 7 months ago
@bobhawker I watch this video because I'm a huge Von Trier fan. It actually saddened me that I didn't enjoy "Antichrist" like I wanted to. I can only comment on a video if I agree with it or like the film its based on? No way, friend. If that's the case, YouTube wouldn't need the "dislike" button at all. I can watch a Von Trier interview for any reason I wish, so save the "jerk-off" insult for someone who really deserves it. My post = my opinion. Yours = yours. Let's be pleasant to each other.
ccsdavis1 7 months ago
@ccsdavis1 yes, you are right, we should be pleasant to each other. i am sorry. i guess i just thought you were one of the many people that seem to be on youtube that just seek out videos about things they dislike or have no interest in purely to make negative comments, when you obviously are not.
bobhawker 7 months ago
@bobhawker No problem. I know the kind of person you're talking about, and I hate when they do that too. It ruins it for the rest of us.
ccsdavis1 7 months ago
So was Wagner. But he remains as important to music nonetheless. Von Trier is nothing less than the Wagner of Film. Everything after him will have to come to terms with what he has accomplished.
Long live the bagatelle!
barrywinehousexp 1 year ago
Von Trier is an absolute charlatan. In this interview alone he contradicts himself a countless number of times and even admits to not believing in his own theories and methods. The man craves any controversy he can attract with nonsense, shock-value, and any other cheap trick he can muster... This movie looks like it has potential though... Haaaa
jlundh20 1 year ago
i think its his own take on the eternal aesthetics of the Oresteia by Aeschylus. Primal reality vs reason and beauty. It is interesting how the protagonists merge between the two, until the Apollonian destroys the Dionysian while realising that they will always be a part of nature its self. There is no union like there is in the Oresteia, a reflection on Lars' own depressed view of life at the time.
soursourapples 1 year ago
i like this movie
myemeraldmind 1 year ago
This is a satanic movie
dooVoob 1 year ago
does anyone hold artist accountable for their work, or do people just let them "like the devil" because they make Art with a capital A? just because it is inside of you, it doesn't mean you are helping anyone by spewing it on them. Art is expression, not dehumanizing actors for your own end.
poopsnotfood 1 year ago
This is the most fucked up film Ive ever seen. This guy is Satan!
MaxcalderB 1 year ago
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Antichrist will emerge between Shaam and Iraq. He will say:I am Christ and your god, and he will have with him fire and water, but in reality the fire will be cold water while that what appears to be cold water will in reality be a blazing fire. He will have one eye.The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" (Disbelieve) will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all faithful.He will have a wheatish complexion. He will stay 40 days, and he will travel at great speeds.He will die by Jesus.
1406ahmad 1 year ago
brilliant @ 2.41 'let me use the word penetrated...uhuewuheuw'
woz240 1 year ago 4
lolll
ersatzmind 1 year ago
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the movie sucks...end of story
Godde92 1 year ago
Your life sucks, end of story
JosephZentil 1 year ago
von trier does not obligied to explain, even to understand himself. it depends on a viewer who is to ask himself. this film is quite an abstract philosofical work, and questioning only multiply and draws director's thoughts away. this is when artist better speaks trough what he does, not articulates, to my opinion.
lolitalo1984 2 years ago 24
Couldn't disagree more.
The movie must have some purpose or at least one subplot/idea that makes some sort of sense.
If you don't, then you have nothing
WatchMyAwesomeVideos 1 year ago
@WatchMyAwesomeVideos
nobody argues a movie (in general) is to contain an idea. what I mean is the matter of individual perception. A directors's task is to involve viewer into percepting and specifying his own aspect of this author's ''idea''. Good director is the one who anyway have a post-factum critical view on his own work, I think.
lolitalo1984 1 year ago
@WatchMyAwesomeVideos
and von trier always has one
lolitalo1984 1 year ago
Often the purpose of the movie is somewhat obvious & it is not.
Care to explain?
WatchMyAwesomeVideos 1 year ago
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@lolitalo1984 is english your first language?
xcapote 8 months ago
Guys, I'm amazed on how ANYONE understands what this film is about... Don't you see the clear signs of Genesis, Adam and Eve, The EDEM, humanity represented in both Defoe's character and his wife?
I've watched other interviews of Von Trier: he's always making mock of the whole thing: there's nothing to say, for an artist, beyond de ouvre d'art itself. That's why he doesn't explain or clarifies any of the contempts, not beyond what's obvious "It's about evil nature"...
juanmescamilla 2 years ago
small world. No wonder the chap is running on fumes and depressed enough to produce that movie.
Still from the single interview I have read with him I think he knows what it is that drives him but doesnt want to flag his belief on the topic, it would ruin the image and essentially the message,
SecretTrollAccount1 2 years ago
lamentate? watch the film and u will take that back
mikeManniche 2 years ago
Yeah, because he's NOT over his 'persecuted nice woman' phase.
:D
mausetieger 2 years ago
i've seen The Idiots. Saw it 10 years ago when it came out. It's pretty good. Definitely one of his more 'intellectual' films.
lamentate07 2 years ago
Really?
Jadabh3 2 years ago
I haven't seen Anti-Christ yet, but Lars Von Trier is not exactly what i'd call a 'deep' film maker. His films provoke reactions, yes, but they are also extremely obvious, for the most part.
i'm glad he is over the 'persecuted nice woman' phase.
lamentate07 2 years ago
watch This film and say its not "deep"
techcapsule 2 years ago
which of his movies have you watched?
mehdinadif 2 years ago
i've seen all of Von Trier's work except for his student film, 'Images Of Relief', and 'The Boss Of It All'.
lamentate07 2 years ago
I'd say watch Anti-christ, but not lightly. It's a rough ride. There's more ideas in that movie then any of his other stuff.
Jadabh3 2 years ago 3
i don't know how anyone can slag off any of his films. they may not be great films in the generic cinematic sense but at the very least they provoke thought and response. no matter the morals, no matter the subject, no matter the brain matter behind it: good art provokes some and inspires others. this and this each and every time for me. what do you want? "dude, where's my car?".
Dadoprice 2 years ago 30
I don't think they provoke any thought bu they do get a shocking response much like David Lynch who is one of my least favorite filmmakers.
I hear Trier's earlier work is impressive though & even Steven Spielberg likes his work so I'll check it out anyway despite finding Antichrist a gratuitous piece of work
WatchMyAwesomeVideos 1 year ago
I'm feeling him on the Japanese horror film tip. I've been a fan of them for a few years now! They definitely push the envelope.
nikkiwhite40 2 years ago
@lovestreams23
You're very right - I'm not upset about the film. The film is trite and embarrassing... Cheap stunts for notoriety of the Gaspar Noe sort.
But I think "I'm the greatest director.." should be taken the same way it would if you were sitting at the same dinner table with the guy. There would be alot of raised eyebrows, as there have been in the world media.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
But see, now you are focusing attention to the director and not the movie. What does it mattert what he said or did? His persona and his statemnts don't take anything from the movie.
The movie is about the movie, not about the director.
NonDeUn 2 years ago
Saying a movie is just a movie, not a about a director is like saying Nazism is just doctrine (not about Nazis).
Sexism and megalomania are about... people.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
Yeah right, Von Trier is a nazi...
You fail to understand that movie like any other work of art is an entity in itself. If a painter is a scumbag does that make his painting any different? No.
And as far supposed sexism and megalomania go, if you think that you failed to understand the movie.
And thanks for your "moral guardianship" but I dont think we ll be needing that.
NonDeUn 2 years ago
Let's talk about the "entity": throwing dicks, pussies, satan, witches, maggots, into a pot and stirring it up. No big deal, but then people come along and say it's got opera music, and it's got very cheap-blue-filter cinematography so therefore it is coherent, transcendent, mystical, and other bullshit. Fact: it's just another hysterical woman being patronized by a yet another father figure. Oh and let's avenge the little dead boy.
Teenage jerkoff flick, my little art guardian?
yvamarquer 2 years ago
terrible critique
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yvamarquer 2 years ago
You haven't offered one yourself.
If you think the movie is brilliant - tell us why...
yvamarquer 2 years ago
And more importantly; you fail at sarcasm forever!!!
NonDeUn 2 years ago
I don't know if I read this movie right but I don't think it's misogyne. Dafoe's part represents order but he's arrogant and dominant trying to force his view by being sweet talking and manipulative.
She's also doing alot of passive-agressive victim-type manipulation which of course is decidedly evil.
Whether that's really an insult to femininity is debatable. It's connected, but spineless men can definately do the same.
Sexuality needs to be controlled for both sexes I guess he's sayin.
herrfrunck 2 years ago
Great danish accent ;)
Trier is absolutely one of the people who put Denmark on the world map.
Zejex15 2 years ago
jemp220100
Once you corrupt a virgin, she can only become a whore.
I TOO QUESTION THIS DUALITY. There is not a credibile alternative to this duality in Antichrist.
A credible alternative must be a ROLE MODEL. The "She" in this movie is just a hysterical festering forest.
LVT's admission that the idea came out of "depression" is nothing but a calculated attempt to conceal the blind rage in this movie, which is indeed cathartically satisfied in "She's" immolation.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
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yvamarquer 2 years ago
wow this movie has caused real controversy, I sooo want to watch it!!
kiquex26 2 years ago
Yvamarquer: The question is not Lars von Trier`s relationship with women but the popular(sexist) belief that the assumed female softness, tenderness and motherhood cannot be corrupted. follow the news and you will see that your system of values is nothing more than a comfortable illusion. And why should a male cinematographer not depict female sexuality? this is the same argumentation than the assumption that a european director could not shoot a movie about the US.
jemp220100 2 years ago 2
jemp220100 - if you're saying "femininity" should be allowed to be corrupted - and then once it is - you say it must die and be immolated, then you're revealing something quite peculiar. I'm saying the corruption in the movie is LVT's own self-hatred speaking. Just comparing it to myriad versions of hysterical, amazonian sexuality that men have always "sought" (fantasized, filmed) only to then repress it.
Men make movies about women all the time,! But Antichrist ain't no Thelma & Louise.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
This guy has pulled the wool over all of your film-school boys' eyes.
All this crap about an "exercise" is just antagonistic self-defense.
This film is nothing about metaphysics, it's about his fear of the fucking VAGINA.
He's talking about defending what you "don't believe in" because it's only too easy to confuse you little Theory 101 spudboys.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
the film is about his fear of the vagina? what are you, high?
stevenmarty 2 years ago 3
He's most apparently a real genious:D
Movie critic par excellence.
jattajafar 2 years ago 2
the entire purpose of the film is to equate the woman with a disgusting and festering forest, and to kill her for it.
remove the first scene, and watch - a hysterical woman gets more and more hysterical, so she must be destroyed.
forest equals vagina in these very typical boyhood fantasies of what women's sexuality is supposedly like.
this film is lars von tree-her's admission that when it comes to women, he feels like a small-dicked impotent little runt.
and he hates women for it.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
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jemp220100 2 years ago
@yvamarquer Agreed, and agreed.
nerfballs2000 2 years ago
Wauw, you made that up yourself? Interesting...
It sounds like you are a jealous director who is pissed because you can't get a job...
Zejex15 2 years ago 2
I just hate con artists.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
A con artist's main tool is confusion.
LVT says the catalyst for this movie was depression. That's a con trick because it appeals to your empathy, and deflects any responsibility he should have for the film's content.
LVT says here that it's a an exercise in what he "doesn't believe in". Again, deflecting responsibility.
It's so cheap and obvious that his intention is solely to shock with what "hasn't been done before", and he's reached into his own fantasies of hatred like a fucking nazi.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
"he's reached his into his own fantasies of hatred like a fucking nazi."
You know he makes films, right? Movies... fiction.
Also, I'm sure he takes full responsibility, and pride, for all the film's content. I find his films to be brutally honest and beautiful. What is the con?
lovestreams23 2 years ago
@ lovestreams23
Human beings live in a constant balance between fiction and reality. So even fiction must be weighed against truth.
This film, like many bad forms of modern "art" just resorts to shock value. It's a lie because the guy (LVT) says it's serious art. He said "I'm the greatest director in the world" at Cannes (twice for emphasis). That statement alone is a clue that this is just an antisocial asshole talking, trying to shift the attention away from the content of his "work".
yvamarquer 2 years ago
But Lars Von Trier as a director/personality doesn't live between fiction and reality... he creates and manufactures fiction. You can never know him as a real person through his films and interviews (as you can't know Werner Herzog or Gaspar Noe), so comments like "I'm the greatest director in the world," should not be taken literally.
It seems you have more of a personal vendetta against LVT, as opposed to being really upset about the film (which would be fine... but why hate LVT so much?)
lovestreams23 2 years ago
It depends how you take the ending. For me it was too ridiculous to be taken seriously, it moved into symbolic irony. Defoe's bewildered face in scenes where he's presented as some heroic conquering man? I think not. Does "rational man" strangle his wife? Isn't that an admission of his own "nature"? I believe some of his earlier films were misogynistic however, which may explain the depression followed by this film ey? It makes so much sense it could almost be true. Rob x
Jadabh3 2 years ago
I don't (personally) believe Dafoe was presented as a conquering man, or even as a rational man. I found that the film demonstrated Von Trier's depression in that it examined the loss of humanity on the part of the man and his wife. It didn't feel misogynistic so much as misanthropic.
EmilyKwissa 2 years ago
@yvamarquer Interesting to hear about YOUR point of view of this film........ NOT!
Zejex15 1 year ago
"This guy has pulled the wool over all of your film-school boys' eyes."
RESPECT!
Carmine124 2 years ago
I went to film school, and all those faggots wanted to talk about was Batman, 300, and video games. I doubt this man's fans are film students. Literacy is a prerequisite for enjoying his films.
buriedinlight 2 years ago
Dont go to film school...ever again...
cineasta71 2 years ago
im in an art college but majoring in film and i love his work!!
xpzombie 2 years ago
Keep fighting the good fight. May you, like I did, find at least a couple like-minded folks. They will be your production company pretty soon!
buriedinlight 2 years ago
wow im starting one with a group of friends right now lol
xpzombie 2 years ago
I went to film-school and we had a few weeks dedicated to Lars Von Triers films methods and psycology. This is a fascinating man with amazing dedication. No director quite like him.
MrBummelum 2 years ago
Hi
May I ask which film-school?
Bynkers83 2 years ago
haha... an experience I've shared
Jadabh3 2 years ago
You seem to have alot of anger and emotion about a film.
It's a film. You don't seem to like it, but you spend time watching interviews and making comments.
I think you're the one being dishonest...with yourself.
m20082008 2 years ago
@ m20082008
True, I have anger about the subject - because the film itself is full of anger and dishonesty.
It's spectacle posing as (pretending to be) metaphysical discourse. Spectacle is: violence, prurience, "blasphemy" and other bullshit, etc... And in this movie, those are ratched up to uncotrollable levels, just to hide the lack of meaning. I've just tried to pointing it out, as clearly as I can, in case there might be some fruitful discussion.
yvamarquer 2 years ago
BEST FILM IN YEARS...
NARCISALISPAHIC 2 years ago 2
Lars von Trier, what ideas I could give you.
MickeyLove01 2 years ago