As one last add-on to my below explanation on making my forms, I will finally butt the two pieces together and check for gaps. If there are gaps, I will either sand the pieces for a tight fit, or cover one with wax -paper and apply body filler to the other and clamp them together, which gives me 2 sides that match perfectly.
Thanks for posting your video Skip. It sheds light on a new way to make a form, and gives me a quick way to make one if I need it in a hurry.
Now on mine, depending on the thickness of the lamination, I will take 2 pieces of 1/2" or 3/4" ply and where it will be cut, I sandwich in several blocks of pine of one wide board. What I do depends on the radius of the curve, the size of the piece, and the thickness of form needed.
I glue and brad nail the pine spacers in place and add a spacer at the back edge of the form as well. Now I cut it on the bandsaw through the pine spacer, ending up with a multi-layer form.
After the form is cut in two, I will carefully sand the sawn edges and then use either thin bending ply or a thin strip of hardwood (usually maple) to cover the sawn edges of the form, and I will glue these in place as well using TiteBond 3 (only glue used in the form)
This will give me a form the thickness I need with a very solid edge that will apply even, firm pressure on the bent lamination. And it's pretty easy to make, and doesn't take a lot of work.
So I think there are 2 thin strips in the center of the ply, correct?
And I also think you are supposed to use this as a form for a bent lamination by putting the layers between the form and the clamping it together, am I on the right track here?
I have made similar jigs, as long as my thoughts on this are correct, but I use a different method of construction. I also feel mine may make for a stronger form which will make for a longer lasting tool, good if you use it more than once.
The techniques shown here can also be used for many other industries that depend on a semi flexible material like wood ,foam etc. Moulds for concrete casting and fibreglass can be extended for these techniques.
well, i also didn´t understand why he glued little pieces of what ever with a glue gun to that ply wood? and to be honest, i got really annoyed by his loud breathing.
New thought on your jig. If the combined pieces that are being glued are much thicker than a total of 1/8 inch, you have a possible problem. Most of my laminates end up between 1/2 & 3/4 thick, so when I make my glue-up jig, I use a router/circle jig with the proper sized bit, and cut to the correct outside radius. This method allows for any thickness but may require two cuts on the glue-up jig if total thickness is more than your biggest router bit.
What was that all about? I don't know why he is gluing little blocks with hot glue. I don't understand why the whole video is just watching him glue blocks...were some of them different? Somehow I missed the point entirely.
@sevansx You are missing one of the vital strands of intelligence that does crop up from time to time within the YouTube commenting community.
The following fact is almost completely fucking obvious.
So obvious in fact, I believe your simple little mind may be able to figure it out given enough time. People don't know a video bothers them until after they have watched it.
Who was the dumb fuck who thought it was a good idea to teach idiots how to type before they taught them how to think?
@3nasacova, stop choking on drpepper, when online, and you will get the point! in this case - and this is a warning - you will get totally frustrated, because there is NO point! he just wasted 3 minutes to glue little bits to that thing, without explaning how this thing works! and to be honest, i´d rather travel through a dry wall, then thinking about how this thing works.
i think i might have cut the curved piece - then drilled for dowels along the arch instead of glueing blocks - then wrap around the work piece around the dowels......but hey..............just the first thing that came to my mind
who cares if you looks like coronel sanders or jack in the box, i mean maybe u r a super model, but i dont think so, the point here is he is teaching us how to be a good woodworker! excelent @SkipEvans123 keep teaching us!!!
Watched the whole thing ... yet, in the end it wasn't made overly clear what "the thing" is used for. If it's a jig ... why didn't you continue with a Part II and show how it's used ?
Might have wanted to create one myself if only I could have seen where you were going with it !!! So sad that there was no attempt to relate it to the reality of an actual workshop creation.
Your the one who should keep his mouth shut...because you don' think through what you are doing...and you took way too long making said type of jig ...so you shut up ..... (This is in answer to a reply he wrote to me behind the scene telling me to keep my mouth shut). Plus you are out of shape therefore you would not be able to hold up on the job in the real world...therefore you are full of shit there skip-o....I worked as a woodworker for 40 years....and I say you suck.
I think you did a good job. However, a few things really stuck out to me. A safety issue which many people commonly ignore, is lowering the guides on your bandsaw so less blade is exposed. Its very easy to become distracted and accidently nick your finger. Lowering the guides can help prevent this. Secondly, us as viewers don't really want to watch you glue each and every piece of wood on. The first few should be glued to show how its done, and then the rest glued with the camera off.
I do not mind criticism at all if it is constructive. It helps me get better. Was the comment "Big waste of time" constructive? I think not. It just seems that the world has gotten into the mood of wanting to just say something without having to have the facts to back it up. Healthy criticism and feed back are always welcome here. Thank you.
@SkipEvans123 So I have to buy a glue gun, then spend an afternoon gluing little bits of rubber onto a piece of plywood? Why did you entitle this "Creative tips for woodworkers"?.
I'm sure you are going reply to me saying "watch the next video to find out why you just bought a glue gun and spent an afternoon sticking little bits of rubber to a piece of plywood"
I'm not watching the next video. There are only four. How much better can they get?
It must have meant something. You took the time to respond.. Didn't you Mama tell you that if you can't say something nice, just keep your mouth shut.
@SkipEvans123 yeah same thought i had but i thought it would turn to be a joke video and you strip down to a white suit and do a kfc commercial.....good vid
why not just re edit the vid..
bloodynuts2 3 months ago
As one last add-on to my below explanation on making my forms, I will finally butt the two pieces together and check for gaps. If there are gaps, I will either sand the pieces for a tight fit, or cover one with wax -paper and apply body filler to the other and clamp them together, which gives me 2 sides that match perfectly.
Thanks for posting your video Skip. It sheds light on a new way to make a form, and gives me a quick way to make one if I need it in a hurry.
Good job and thanks again!
kenny474 4 months ago
Now on mine, depending on the thickness of the lamination, I will take 2 pieces of 1/2" or 3/4" ply and where it will be cut, I sandwich in several blocks of pine of one wide board. What I do depends on the radius of the curve, the size of the piece, and the thickness of form needed.
I glue and brad nail the pine spacers in place and add a spacer at the back edge of the form as well. Now I cut it on the bandsaw through the pine spacer, ending up with a multi-layer form.
kenny474 4 months ago
After the form is cut in two, I will carefully sand the sawn edges and then use either thin bending ply or a thin strip of hardwood (usually maple) to cover the sawn edges of the form, and I will glue these in place as well using TiteBond 3 (only glue used in the form)
This will give me a form the thickness I need with a very solid edge that will apply even, firm pressure on the bent lamination. And it's pretty easy to make, and doesn't take a lot of work.
kenny474 4 months ago
So I think there are 2 thin strips in the center of the ply, correct?
And I also think you are supposed to use this as a form for a bent lamination by putting the layers between the form and the clamping it together, am I on the right track here?
I have made similar jigs, as long as my thoughts on this are correct, but I use a different method of construction. I also feel mine may make for a stronger form which will make for a longer lasting tool, good if you use it more than once.
kenny474 4 months ago
You have probably received enough feedback but hell 6 minutes of grunting and glueing little blocks? I'm sure you have a lot to offer but ...
thedongarry 4 months ago
The techniques shown here can also be used for many other industries that depend on a semi flexible material like wood ,foam etc. Moulds for concrete casting and fibreglass can be extended for these techniques.
jeetendrag10acc2 7 months ago
I was left not understanding the purpose of the jig and still enjoyed watching the video.
theonlygene 7 months ago
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theonlygene 7 months ago
well, i also didn´t understand why he glued little pieces of what ever with a glue gun to that ply wood? and to be honest, i got really annoyed by his loud breathing.
ploetzlich30 7 months ago
Finally, an honest, constructive comment. Most people just complain. Have they tried to create a video. I doubt it.
Thank you very much.
sevansx 8 months ago
New thought on your jig. If the combined pieces that are being glued are much thicker than a total of 1/8 inch, you have a possible problem. Most of my laminates end up between 1/2 & 3/4 thick, so when I make my glue-up jig, I use a router/circle jig with the proper sized bit, and cut to the correct outside radius. This method allows for any thickness but may require two cuts on the glue-up jig if total thickness is more than your biggest router bit.
frost0813 8 months ago
What was that all about? I don't know why he is gluing little blocks with hot glue. I don't understand why the whole video is just watching him glue blocks...were some of them different? Somehow I missed the point entirely.
breezebro 9 months ago
Don't watch it if it bothers you that much.
sevansx 10 months ago
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3nasacova 8 months ago
@sevansx You are missing one of the vital strands of intelligence that does crop up from time to time within the YouTube commenting community.
The following fact is almost completely fucking obvious.
So obvious in fact, I believe your simple little mind may be able to figure it out given enough time. People don't know a video bothers them until after they have watched it.
Who was the dumb fuck who thought it was a good idea to teach idiots how to type before they taught them how to think?
3nasacova 8 months ago
@3nasacova, stop choking on drpepper, when online, and you will get the point! in this case - and this is a warning - you will get totally frustrated, because there is NO point! he just wasted 3 minutes to glue little bits to that thing, without explaning how this thing works! and to be honest, i´d rather travel through a dry wall, then thinking about how this thing works.
ploetzlich30 7 months ago
I don't get this... I watched it twice but I still don't get it and it's annoying...
rjhwuk 10 months ago
great idea ,
i think i might have cut the curved piece - then drilled for dowels along the arch instead of glueing blocks - then wrap around the work piece around the dowels......but hey..............just the first thing that came to my mind
good job
RideSaintJohn 11 months ago
Speed up the gluing process.
MrLeonard55 1 year ago
This is a simple and economical alternative to complex machines or vacuum-clamping for many irregular shapes: Economical, adaptable and FAST.
Thanks for making this video!
OldSchoolSkill 1 year ago
who cares if you looks like coronel sanders or jack in the box, i mean maybe u r a super model, but i dont think so, the point here is he is teaching us how to be a good woodworker! excelent @SkipEvans123 keep teaching us!!!
yosoymemo 1 year ago
Watched the whole thing ... yet, in the end it wasn't made overly clear what "the thing" is used for. If it's a jig ... why didn't you continue with a Part II and show how it's used ?
Might have wanted to create one myself if only I could have seen where you were going with it !!! So sad that there was no attempt to relate it to the reality of an actual workshop creation.
SLLEWWG 1 year ago 2
really good thanks mate
ifcravingspersist 1 year ago
Good video, thanks.
Aev308 1 year ago
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Your the one who should keep his mouth shut...because you don' think through what you are doing...and you took way too long making said type of jig ...so you shut up ..... (This is in answer to a reply he wrote to me behind the scene telling me to keep my mouth shut). Plus you are out of shape therefore you would not be able to hold up on the job in the real world...therefore you are full of shit there skip-o....I worked as a woodworker for 40 years....and I say you suck.
clearwatertom 2 years ago
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clearwatertom 2 years ago
edit your videos man Jesus Christ, 3 minutes of hot glue
epic fail!
TheJGalloway 2 years ago 4
showing the glueing of the blocks takes 3 minutes of the whole video....man, surely that's not the hard part, is it?
'yawn'
giliam74 2 years ago 7
@giliam74, DUDE, you missed the ROAR at 3:09 and 4:27. ROAR! 5:21, even watching at the camera if the camera didn´t fall a sleep was very good.
ploetzlich30 7 months ago
Seems it would be easier to simply take a piece of 3/4 scrap ply, glue it to the other and have a strong 1 1/2 inch pattern.
Hot glue is nearly useless under clamp pressure.
picklehead7 2 years ago 2
You hit the nail right on the head picklehead7........This jig is a waste of time.......weak glue joint to boot....
clearwatertom 2 years ago
That was cool, i was looking for a way to do exactly this,and whallah! very simple & effective
missionron 2 years ago
I think you did a good job. However, a few things really stuck out to me. A safety issue which many people commonly ignore, is lowering the guides on your bandsaw so less blade is exposed. Its very easy to become distracted and accidently nick your finger. Lowering the guides can help prevent this. Secondly, us as viewers don't really want to watch you glue each and every piece of wood on. The first few should be glued to show how its done, and then the rest glued with the camera off.
FunnyGuy388 2 years ago
i dont agree. i like to see someone with experience do his work. and it only took about 2 min to glue those bits on.
i learn a lot from watching, even if some stuff are repeated.
CT2507 2 years ago
All my clamps were purchased from Rockler.
SkipEvans123 2 years ago
Who makes those clamps, and where can I get them. Thanks for the video.
cranesgonewild 2 years ago
I do not mind criticism at all if it is constructive. It helps me get better. Was the comment "Big waste of time" constructive? I think not. It just seems that the world has gotten into the mood of wanting to just say something without having to have the facts to back it up. Healthy criticism and feed back are always welcome here. Thank you.
SkipEvans123 2 years ago 11
@SkipEvans123 So I have to buy a glue gun, then spend an afternoon gluing little bits of rubber onto a piece of plywood? Why did you entitle this "Creative tips for woodworkers"?.
I'm sure you are going reply to me saying "watch the next video to find out why you just bought a glue gun and spent an afternoon sticking little bits of rubber to a piece of plywood"
I'm not watching the next video. There are only four. How much better can they get?
Is this criticism constructive enough for you?
3nasacova 8 months ago
were do u buy those shirts i like them
ppay3 2 years ago
I purchased it from a local T-shirt store and had them emboss the logo.
SkipEvans123 2 years ago
thanks
ppay3 2 years ago
Big waste of time....should have been a two minute video.....tks anyway.
clearwatertom 2 years ago
It must have meant something. You took the time to respond.. Didn't you Mama tell you that if you can't say something nice, just keep your mouth shut.
SkipEvans123 2 years ago
it wasnt awaste it was perfect video
ppay3 2 years ago
you don´t take criticism very well.
Feed-back sould be your friend, you might learn something yourself, Mr Teacher. Personally, il liked your video, but is it is a bit slow. Take care.
giliam74 2 years ago
great video, but he looks like mr.kentucky...
zunetz 3 years ago
Criticism is great as long as it is constructive as yours it, Thank you.
But I do believe in responding in kind. No reason to let a jerk get away with it. This medium should be fun and educational.
SkipEvans123 2 years ago
I get the the Kentucky colonel comment all the time. I have thought about buying a white suit and cane for Halloween. Thanks for the compliment
SkipEvans123 2 years ago
@SkipEvans123 Better than my brother in law. He looks like Captain Kangaroo. :)
ardvarkkkkk 1 year ago
@SkipEvans123 yeah same thought i had but i thought it would turn to be a joke video and you strip down to a white suit and do a kfc commercial.....good vid
Mr204cooper 1 year ago
just woke up missed it bollox will be viewing again in the next 36 years.
apple0071 3 years ago
Nice job!
C3DesignBuild 3 years ago
you should probably slow down on that band saw chief
meech937 3 years ago
lower your top guides you know it makes sense safety and accuracy.
frog2eyes 3 years ago
you obviously are a great woodworker.
but the video is a little boring, watching you put glue on little pieces of wood.
have a someone show you how to edit so you can fit alot more video onto one clip.
it's like cutting a round with a circular saw.
the right tool for the right job.
odmcarp 3 years ago 2
Great Video !
hankcampbell 3 years ago