The IMF got its vampire fangs into the UK in 1976. That was a Labour deal. That's the reason why all the national industries were sold off. We've been in an austerity program for over 3 decades. Truth is, the taxes people pay go to repayments on various dodgy bonds and loans, not to public services. It's how the IMF work. That's what's happening to Greece right now. That's what's sunk many developing world nations and kept them from building infrastructure. Dark.
Great comment we have spent too much time ensuring everyone is equally treat and no one is upset by remarks that are made about them. We have allowed millions of eastern Europeans into the UK and yes they do take jobs.The opportunity for them to do so is what is wrong. We need to shut the open door to the uk kick out the treasonous Zionist traitors in government and restore Britains position, its culture, its way of life and its people's respect and happiness. & tell the US & israel to fuck off
@YouKnowIAmRight My Dad came from Hungary, a refugee from the 1956 revolution against the Soviet Union. He worked hard and raised our family while we saw council estates full of ENGLISH people on benefits. He died last year and I find your comments offensive. If the English were prepared to go to work at jobs they didn't like, then perhaps there would be no jobs for your so-called millions of Eastern Europeans to take. Shame on you
@hayamburuk the problem is that you have misunderstood my point. Its not the easyern europeans that are at fault. these are very nice decent people. BUT we have top protect what is ours. If we don't then we lose what is ours and that is what has happened. I too am offended that my threee children cannot find work whilst 12000 jobs go to immigrants every month. there has been a diliberate policy to give jobs to immigrants and its not true that British people wont work that is propagander
The problem is the Labour party is a communist party, dress it up how you like but they did everything they could to make the majority of society poor. There's no such thing as center left politics, New Labour is straight up communism.
I'm a foreigner but I've lived in the UK for a large chunk of my life. Anyway I have no opinion about UK politics but from all the information I have gathered throughtout the years if I had to build a quick opinion about labour it would be: Labour = true (dirty) socialists.
thank you! Labour needs to be dissolved and everyone within it thrown in fucking prison! they are a bunch of crooks who ran our country into the ground!
He`s spot on, `New` Labour did distance themsels from the working class in their distorted belife that we are all middle class now, despite the obvious fact that the working class have become trapped low paid shitty jobs, if they can get one at all, with little prosepcts of `aspiring` to better things.
@8corporal You're that hyped up on thinking you're right and that much of a dick for saying that I'm not even going to answer you. Seriously though I hope you get the shit kicked out of you by these pakie's like that Daniel Stringer did you paki supporting scum.
@planettockford probably because the foreigners come here to WORK and actively look for jobs, and the British youth think they deserve it and it should fall into their laps.
@livvyxo Not as simple as that mate, if you live in what used to be a council estate where there are no jobs, and no prospects or the chance to go to college or university. I used to think like you and come from a housing estate myslef, but many people in the UK are in terrible positions today and its not their fault and they can not easilly `aspire` to better things as too much damage had been done to working class areas.
@8corporal It's ridiculous to tar everyone with the same brush obviously, but having lived on the dole on a shitty council estate myself, there were plenty of immigrants sure, but there were also more than plenty of british people expecting everything to be handed to them.
@livvyxo some do, but most don't. that is where your argument falls apart. also, yes the british youth do expect jobs, but maybe that is because most other countries take a preference to their own people, and put them first.
Every time a foreigner gets a manuel job in Britain another young Brit is consigned to signing on, smoking dope and vandalising their local area. Seems that way to me anyway.
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK LABOUR, MAY THEY NEVER BE IN POWER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIBERAL BUNCH OF PUSSIES WANT TO TURN THIS COUNTRY INTO ONE BIG JEZZA KYLE SHOW, GET A FUCKING GRIP! LABOUR = FUCK BUSINESS, SIT AT HOME WITH UR DISABLED BENEFITS GO TO HELL TONY BLAIR YOU ARSE FUCKED THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!
@SuperDdb123 .. labour aren't liberal, under the guidance of milliband they've taken a huge step back to the centre left, in the OPPOSITE direction of the middle (liberal) ground.
This man picked his words carefully: British and English identities: similar things but different. As a British Asian man he realises the importance of such a carefully constructed idea, one that has taken centuries to build and which allows peoples of different races to intergrate into this country. He also realises that it is based on institutions, laws and customs that the last Labour government, and all progressives (including Cameron), have eroded to the point that they have collapsed.
@burtingtune You've just made an extremely clever and intelligent observation. Especially with regard to the last Labour government, and all progressives (including Cameron), allowing institutions - that have taken centuries to build - to collapse. The Labour government allowing state Grammar Schools to collapse was a particularly vicious assault on the likelihood of children being given an opportunity to progress. Note also that the Labour elitists send their kids to POSH schools.
This man is an immigrant, that is plain enough. But he is educated. This is the kind of immigrant we need to be letting in, intelligent men and women who can contribute to the nation and sees the importance of a common identity. Not these swarms of people who drain the state of money rather than helping it.
The real problem here is identity. Multiculturalism is a mistake, immigration is not necessarily.
@Gustaveleloup 1/2: Drain the State of money, do they? If it were not for immigration, the UK ecconomy would be in even worse condition than the privitized upper class gravy train that it is now since industry was killed off. People come to Uk for a better life and work hard. Without immigration, ther ewould be nobody to do the mundane jobs others will not do or can not afford to do. We would trouble finding doctors, nurses and other vital professionals if it were not for
@8corporal if there was no immigration, we definitely wouldn't have trouble finding doctors. there are hundreds of people qualifying each year, and not just immigrants. I agree, manual labour would be severely lacking, but just a restriction of immigration could save our national identity as well as a better economy from less benefits.
@InhabitantOfOddworld Hello. Thanks for your reply. A compex subject thus generating a muktitude of repsonees that are, in turn, all have validity. However, I stand by my asserstion that issue of immigration is a smoke screen for politicions to use as an effective weapon that the public will react to as an evasisve means of discussig the real issues, i,e. the lack of good, decent paying jobs, affordable housing and the rising delcine of the average working person.
@8corporal i wish your assertion is correct, but alas it isn't. Immigration is a problem. agreed, some immigrants, particularly the polish, will gratefully work and so deserve a place. but others, particularly the middle easterns (sorry to generalise but its true) don't work, claim benefits, costing the country millions, and worse of all they are the ones that complain the most when their benefits are cut or are deported, claiming 'human rights'.
@InhabitantOfOddworld I`m so confused and angry about the state of the UK that I could be tempted to agree, I just don`t know how much, in tangable terms, immigarion posses a threat to UK and the UK ecconomy. It is used a sa smoke screen, I belive by government for public debate in evasion of the real issues. In temrs of your assertion about benifits, dosn`t corpporate tax evasion cost the UK far more whilst the average Jo compensates for it via VAT and inflation?
@8corporal what you've got to understand is many people are coming in, ok. most don't give anything back to the economy, but the country believes it should treat them fairly by paying them benefits. this greatly outweighs the money coming in, so negative income develops: essentially, we're losing money. In fact, immigration is a real issue, but no MP's wish to tackle it for fear of being branded racist. One party tried to tackle it: they're called the BNP. Look how popular they are.
@InhabitantOfOddworld 1/2 What I uderstand is what I have already conveyed to you in my comments. The real issue is the destruction of industry and the resulting dependance on the `market` to generate real revune from The City, and how the average working perosn has been thrown to the scrap heap as a resukt of the beginings of the globalization process in 1979. It is tue that political parties have lost their tradiitonal base, `New` Labour for example due to their beliefe
@8corporal 2/2 that we are all middle class now where people are living in realtive poveerty in cities that were once engineering giants where people earned a good income. immigration is now a tool used to avoid these real issues and people are being drawn to it and the BNP/UKIP etc as they turn their backs on parties that abanodned them, as `New` found to their cost as these Etonian multi millionaires were returned to power. Look where we are now, largest ublic sector cuts for years.
@InhabitantOfOddworld Since I came out of the RAF after 20 years in 2006, I too faced this, going from one crappy, low paid shitty job after the other. I turned down a place at university even then due to the costs involved. I don` t blame this people who come here for a better life as I know the real reasons for such hard times, unless you are middle/upper classs of course, and you`re sheltered from it.
@8corporal i think you're starting to miss the point here. I'm not saying that all immigration is bad, and i'm not blaming people for coming here as standards of living are far better here, but immigration is only good when the people coming in are giving something back. Yes, lack of industry is a problem, but it is far less costly and more expensive and time consuming to solve.
@InhabitantOfOddworld What we need, ans as the recent riots showed the possible beginings of, is a fucking revolution in the UK. When you have most elite and wealthy at the vety top in a minority and the worse off and less affulent at the very bottom in a vast majority, that my friend, is therealization of true democracy. and the cataylist for change.
@8corporal the worse off are in a vast majority. why are they worse of? because there are no jobs. Why are there no jobs? because immigrants are filling in the jobs. this isn't necessarily a bad thing, as there work for less and do more. the manual labour jobs are now taken up, and there is no industry, so everyone else is forced to get an educated career, e.g. doctors, but there are too many people applying. Bottom line is there are too many people. we need a clear out, not a revolution.
@InhabitantOfOddworld Bottom line is, the ruling elite are in charge and the average person and tax payer are funding their life style, and all the issues you mention nare faced by everybody.Then we need a scape goat, a finger to point and blame people with when we should be sthat finger up the arses of the people in power who have brought us here not immigrants to this or any other contry. Let`s now agree to politely disagree. Cheers, take care. Garry.
@8corporal yes, the people in power brought us here. New Labour supported immigration and multiculturalism etc etc. and never capped it. Yes, the governments do point blame on immigration, but it is still an issue regardless. Best Regards. Jack.
@8corporal so, there are too many people. what do we do? the logical choice is to get rid of the non workers, essentially the immigrants as they aren't from here originally. Look at Poland. it's birth rate is incredibly low and its economy is struggling. give them their workers back. we have less people and they have more workers: win-win situation.
@InhabitantOfOddworld Look, we could go on all night art this rate mate. The solution? Let`s shake hands, say good noght and cheers and wish uis all luck. I think we`re going to need it. I emmigrated to Canada on 2008, my marriage has just failed (my wofe is Canadian) and the thought of coming back home scares me shitless mate!
@Gustaveleloup 2/2 immigration. This is an issues that gets distorted and deliberately manipulated by politicions as the issues that imigrants face, we all face, i.e. good paying, secure jobs with protection, wages you can live on along with inflation, affordable housing, including local auhtority housing, and a better life. I left the Uk in 2008 after 19 years in the RAF due to the fact that I could not secure a job that poaid enough to allow me to have disposable income for even
@Gustaveleloup 3/3 a holiday, just to cover the bills and that level of income was delining more and more every year out of sinc with inflation as VAT is a tax on the working class. We have people here in Labrador where I live from S/E Asia wth degrees working in a cafe for the same reasons, a better life due to much of that part of the wold being screwed oveer by the IMF and Wolrd Bank. So, take off the blinkers, and understand the real issues that really matter! Cheers. Garry.
@8corporal I certainly agree that immigration has its benefits. I'm Canadian, and my country was built on immigration. However, we cannot allow immigration to get out of control. Canada's immigration policy today is much too liberal. The problem is multiculturalism. If we (and by 'we', I mean the soft-headed left wing politicians) allow foreign cultures to supplant our own, the country will end up wih a culture/identity crisis, from which, I would say, Canada already suffers.
@8corporal (cont.) I have no problem with educated immigrants such as the gentleman in this video, as I have made clear. If we invite swarms of uneducated, unskilled immigrants as labourers, they will, firstly, take the jobs from the country's original inhabitants (I shall return to this in a moment). Secondly, large numbers of a certain group, coupled with multiculturalist policies will, quite simply, drown out the country's culture. And I shall be forthright: I mean Muslims.
@8corporal (cont.2) I am no racist, believe me. My views, as you might have noticed, have more to do with culture. Muslims are pouring into Europe and North America and we can no longer pretend that nothing is changing. I don not need to discuss here the implications of Islamisation. Multiculturalism has failed.
@8corporal (cont.3) Now I return to my point. The purpose of immigration should not be solely to benefit the immigrant, which is where multiculturalism is wrong. Let us not forget that immigration is (or at least was) meant to help the economy of a country. Unfortunately, we cannot invite every refugee from every war-torn, backwards country into Western nations.
@8corporal (cont.4) I conclude: immigrants should contribute something to the society they enter, whether it is labour or learning or whatever else. What an immigrant must not do is drain the money of the state. Our governments are too generous; not everyone can be helped. On an international level, a country must pursue that which will benefit it first. Immigration must therefore be limited. Multiculturalism must be done away with.
@8corporal I realise that I haven't actually answered some of your points. I've mostly been elaborating on my first comment. I'd be happy to discuss these matters further, but right now I need to go to bed.
@8corporal I apologise for being rather long-winded. It is an important topic and these are my views. There are six comments besides this one if you're interested in reading my whole argument. I also apologise if my form is a little messy. I realise that I do jump around a bit.
I invite others to reply and carry on this discussion. It is ever so stimulating.
@Gustaveleloup....no one can possibly stop immigration, lot of people immigrate from this country to other (eg spain etc) countries too...they could argue the same however it is crucial we do not divide people into catagories on the basis of their origin. immigration is social as well as natural phenomenon as animals migrate. We have served in British Gurkha Regiment under labour yet we were never recognized as equal even though we fought for this land or contributed to the nation as you argued.
@Gustaveleloup I completely disagree with you on this, people who are professionals in their own countries should not be a priority for UK immigration, we should be taking in those in dire situations, asylum seekers etc, and using our position of privilege to offer them help. WE should be asking ourselves what we can do for others, not what they can do for us.
@uninsp1redusername I think it should all be about what they can do for us. Countries like Australia and America are difficult to migrate to because they want migrants to offer them something. Occasionally its ok to be selfish, we have people of our own who need help, we shouldn't encourage immigrants who can't offer us anything, because our own people will then take a back seat in terms of priority and we'll just be allowing migrants to sponge.
@uninsp1redusername I can't disagree more with you, if you were "always using our position of privilege to offer them help" you would reach economic bankruptcy. We aren't a charity we are a nation. We can't go around helping EVERYONE. That's part of the reason for the riots in the summer. Socially deprived. Recent statistics show the majority of rioters. were foreign. The UK offered them false hop in the form of a better life, we can't always provide hence the trouble we see.
@uninsp1redusername We can't forever take people in. The people who benefit our society are the smart ones who can work like doctors etc... they can contribute back to us what they take. With "those in dire situations, asylum seekers etc," they contribute NOTHING back. They become a drain on society.
@uninsp1redusername Nice idea but totally unrealistic. I have been to countries where they laugh at Britain for being the 'saps' of the world. Even immigrants who have grown up here didnt want the mass 'open door' naive insanity introduced under Labour (inc letting hundreds of people who want to kill us!) . We are a very small country and already overcrowded to the point where the infrastructure is buckling under the weight.
@uninsp1redusername , our country is a capitalist one, and as amazing as it would be to help those in need, we simply cannot afford it as it isn't profitable, as is being proven in this country every single day.
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@whispersosoftly Yet hes more british than you.... do you understand what he is saying or is the are you so preplexed that his grasp on the english language far outstrips yours? What do you contribute to this nation ill bet your on benifits scroungeing of the system.
@whispersosoftly yes, he may have bad english, and is quite possibly dyslexic, but you are an unnecessarily racist faggot. That man may be of indian origin, but how do you know he hasn't lived here for many years, and how does that prevent him from understanding our national identity. in fact, he probably understands it better than you, and you just made a racist comment because you're too thick to understand his argument and how to counter it.
@coopertroopa , couldn't agree more I'm an Aussie and it is everywhere here now I hang my head in shame at our youth listening to this junk and wearing hoodies looking like trash, I sure hope we don't lose our identity to this rat music that promotes poverty, hate , violence etc
Abolish working class? Ha! There will never be an equal class system. It's very foolish to believe it is possible. I like this guy, I'd shake his hand. Spot on! Conservative might not be the best option, but they'll do.
The last Labour government was a shambles. Its leadership had little experience of real life. Never worked in industry and commerce. Never did any military service but was very interested in starting wars, and sending our troops into battle with hardly a pot to piss in. They all seemed to be part-time lawyers, journalists, and academics. The Brit working class were exploited as part of an interesting social experiment that back-fired on the party.
@Basicallybenign An absolutely superb post, you write it the way it really was. The last Labour government really did go all out to exploit the British working man and the system that employed them. For example, Tony Blair and his wife must now be millionaires many times over from exploiting their office.
WE have bought poverty to our own country & ditched our people in it, for the sake of annual rising corporation contract targets... eg vodaphone, sky, Aviva.ect. These foreigners are placed here to make rich people richer & poor people poorer.
Even the Asian people of England can see that the governments flood of foreigners has taken away our children's English/British identity. This is why all of our kids are walking around talking patwa, with pants hanging around there fucking ankles. with life long dreams of gunning down other arseholes.
@CooperTroopa I can see why part of the problem is to do with immigration. But that doesn't justify white british kids walk around with that tracksuits tucked in their socks, talking in thick English slang and stabbing each other outside pubs and night clubs. Immigration isn't helping, but it sure as hell doesn't take the blame away from the fact that English are just as much to blame for the way people view the youth of this country.
@christophcooneyoff Since my mates started loving HipHop & the attitude it promotes, they have become Rude, nasty, selfish & totally dislikeable to strangers.
HipHop is part of MOBO. so I can actually see a direct link to Black culture, spreading into the English community via the poverty stricken, a new Patwa, almost reclassifying itself as 'Youth culture' or 'Thick English slang' as you describe it. In my eyes, there in no link to English inspiration here. it is all originating from MOBO.
@CooperTroopa Oh come the hell on. You think music robs them of their common sense? Every kid goes through a rough stage. My point is that the link between immigration and youth violence, compared to the link between, shall we say, poor parenting, and youth violence. Your argument hangs entirely on prejudice mate. Your own experiences aren't grounds for a statistically based theory.
@christophcooneyoff the longer you stick up for them... the longer this will take... Music isn't robbing anyone of common sense... these kids do not care for common sense... They believe, the ruder the better... it's really happening. Go to hackney & ask for some directions mate.
@CooperTroopa Stick up for who exactly? Them!? Whether you like it or not they are British citizens. They aren't the enemy. They are kids. And with out leadership being as hilariously absent as it is, when it comes to the issues of youth, along with peer pressure and consumerism that's forced down their throats, they are very much the victim of the older generation's failures. But aside from ALL of that, the "victims" come in all shapes, sizes, colours and creeds so less of your ignorance please
Indeed, the Labour Party is dead. The Labour Party has been hijacked by public school educated Marxist tossers that have not had to do a proper day's work in their entire lives. As a result, the British working man is not now represented by the 'Labour' Party. Even worse is the fact that the Labour Party have sold Britain out to the hopelessly corrupt and criminal led European Union project.
@RedGoblinus hoplessy corrupt and criminal led european union?? considering you seem to be sticking up for the working class let me inform that the only decent rights workers have gained in recent years are ones that were pushed through by europe, only this month has it been made the law that agency workers are to be paid the same wage and have the same holiday entitlement as their permanent co workers. Ofcourse the tories tried to block this law as it would 'damge the economy'
@realot1 The only organisations that have stood up for British workers and their rights over the years are the Trades Unions. The Labour Party has now been hijacked by public school educated lawyers with their own money making agendas. As for the European Union, it is a rich men's club there to exploit workers by helping employers pick and choose the labour they can employ cheapest. E.g. currently, British employers are encouraged by the EU to employ cheaper Eastern European labour.
@RedGoblinus could you tell me how Employers are encouraged to employ from Eastern Europe? And explain howEastern European labour is cheaper than British labour considering the law I previously stated is now in place? sounds like your reading from the same daily mail page that attacks europe aswel as the trade unions
@realot1 You need to open your eyes, England has been flooded with workers from Eastern Europe. Anyway, it's the Daily Express tabloid newspaper that attacks the European Union - good on them. I don't read much anti EU sentiment in the Daily Mail - the Daily Mail should concentrate their editorials on attacking the EU and our home grown traitors that support this criminally corrupt and fascist entity. The EU sucks.
@RedGoblinus@RedGoblinus So you have failed to answer any of my questions? why on one hand would you support unions and the working class yet quote the daily express you only have to read leo mckinstry or patrick oflyn to know they are right wing capitalists who despise unions the right to strike and workers rights. Quoting these papres really highlights peoples ignorance and keeps workers divided which is their agenda.
@realot1 Oh, I see, I have failed to answer your questions. My stand point is perfectly obvious if you read my posts. The enlightened chap in the video stated that the Labour Party is dead and they've destroyed everything they've got their hands on. The Labour Party does not represent British working people - not surprising considering the fact that they've been hijacked by public school educated Marxists that have never had to do a real job for a shit wage in their entire lives.
@RedGoblinus As a marxist, one who has not been educated at a public school, I have to say I agree with you, the Labour party do not reflect the needs or opinons of the working classes, as a left wing party should. As a a result, it seems that the labour party are, essentially, the Conservative party. However, it must be said that no party reflects the needs and opinions of the working class, especially not the Conservative party.
@lou3331mig4413 In my opinion, the Labour government of 1974-79 better represented the needs and opinions of the British worker. Surprising, given that one its greatest thinkers - Tony Benn - actually had an aristocratic background. That government even gave the people a referendum on our membership of the corrupt EEC project in 1975. So many true left wingers were purged from the Labour party in the 1980s that Labour do not and cannot now properly represent British workers.
@RedGoblinus I entirely agree that Labour has moved away from its socialist origins in the quest for votes. In that, many parties are competing for the centre ground. Hence new labour and the move from the left. However, I would rather have the Labour party in power than a conservative, or right wing party, in power.
@lou3331mig4413 I don't want any political party in power that would sell Britain out to the openly fascist and criminal led European Union project. I'm keeping a very close eye on the Tories at the moment because it was they who signed us up to the EEC in 1973 without any kind of democratic referendum. The core of the Tory party is the Toff landowner class that gain from membership of the EU via Common Agricultural Policy handouts - the taxes we pay given to Toffs via the EU !!
@lou3331mig4413 The EU promotes the power of the state, via endless rules and regulations, over individual freedom and the EU was fully backed by the Labour Party. In this respect the EU and the Labour Party are openly fascist. The Labour Party also had fancy new courthouses built - at massive expense to the British taxpayer - throughout the UK. Thus Tony Blair was doing his bit as a lawyer to help his Toff lawyer mates subjugate the honest and hard working British working man.
@RedGoblinus I fail to see how that makes the EU or Labour Fascists:
"Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics.[3][4]" They aren't fascist
@lou3331mig4413 "Corporatists of left, right and centre show a marked hostility to allegations that the European Union is fundamentally fascist. This is perhaps not surprising since they combine in their belief in supranational government, collective solutions, corporatist economics, State intervention and what Tony Blair often termed the 'Third Way' most of the characteristics of fascism." Excerpt from: 'Why the European Union is fundamentally fascist' by Philip Jones.
@kargwain187 I hope you're right because many a British working man is now down on the ground and taking a kicking. The enlightened man in the video was right when he stated that "the Labour Party has destroyed the soul of the British working man and woman."
'New Labour is obsessed with making everyone equal' - if you seriously think that's the wisest comment ever on British TV I'd get a little bit more educated if I were you!
this is true... THIS IS THE WISEST COMMENT EVER MADE ON QUESTION TIME.
amarsbarr 11 hours ago
The IMF got its vampire fangs into the UK in 1976. That was a Labour deal. That's the reason why all the national industries were sold off. We've been in an austerity program for over 3 decades. Truth is, the taxes people pay go to repayments on various dodgy bonds and loans, not to public services. It's how the IMF work. That's what's happening to Greece right now. That's what's sunk many developing world nations and kept them from building infrastructure. Dark.
bishopdante 2 days ago
Great comment we have spent too much time ensuring everyone is equally treat and no one is upset by remarks that are made about them. We have allowed millions of eastern Europeans into the UK and yes they do take jobs.The opportunity for them to do so is what is wrong. We need to shut the open door to the uk kick out the treasonous Zionist traitors in government and restore Britains position, its culture, its way of life and its people's respect and happiness. & tell the US & israel to fuck off
YouKnowIAmRight 3 days ago 2
@YouKnowIAmRight My Dad came from Hungary, a refugee from the 1956 revolution against the Soviet Union. He worked hard and raised our family while we saw council estates full of ENGLISH people on benefits. He died last year and I find your comments offensive. If the English were prepared to go to work at jobs they didn't like, then perhaps there would be no jobs for your so-called millions of Eastern Europeans to take. Shame on you
hayamburuk 3 days ago
@hayamburuk the problem is that you have misunderstood my point. Its not the easyern europeans that are at fault. these are very nice decent people. BUT we have top protect what is ours. If we don't then we lose what is ours and that is what has happened. I too am offended that my threee children cannot find work whilst 12000 jobs go to immigrants every month. there has been a diliberate policy to give jobs to immigrants and its not true that British people wont work that is propagander
YouKnowIAmRight 3 days ago
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leerees 4 days ago
YOU SIR ARE A LEGEND
blazecronik2011 6 days ago
I have disliked this video.
CaptainRuski 1 week ago
You know what everyone was thinking when this Paki talks about the British identity...
Consolized 1 week ago
@Consolized No, please enlighten us.
alexvegas 1 week ago
@Consolized I would happily hunt you down and murder you
sivasivasiv 1 week ago
@sivasivasiv And I you, good sir.
Consolized 1 week ago
@Consolized LOL JOKER I READ HIS COMMENT , THEN YOURS FUNNY SHIT MAN
blazecronik2011 6 days ago
@sivasivasiv LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL WHAT A HILARIOUS COMMENT LMFAO DUDE YOUR A JOKER LOOOL
blazecronik2011 6 days ago
@Consolized The only person who does not appear to understand the British identity is you.
mightywindmill102 1 week ago
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I'M SO SICK OF SEEING OUTRIGHT PERCEPTION MANAGEMENT PROPAGANDA, AND PEOPLE DUPED BY THIS BUNKUM HORSE SHITE
"You've destroyed the soul of the working man and woman, Because you are so obsessed with making everyone equal."-Audience Shill
HOW ABOUT WE ALL WAKE-UP AND CAST BLAME TO WHERE IT IS DESERVED? A NOVEL IDEA, NO?
> Caritas in Veritate ("Charity in Truth"), the third encyclical of Pope Benedict XVI and his first social encyclical. Signed on June 29 2009
So-called "collective security"
SpencerBenedict2nd 1 week ago
Good man
solarday 1 week ago
All this talk if he is an immigrant, yes but he is the "kind of immigrant we need to be letting in" Stop! he is a human!
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leerees 4 days ago
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The problem is the Labour party is a communist party, dress it up how you like but they did everything they could to make the majority of society poor. There's no such thing as center left politics, New Labour is straight up communism.
leerees 4 days ago
I'm a foreigner but I've lived in the UK for a large chunk of my life. Anyway I have no opinion about UK politics but from all the information I have gathered throughtout the years if I had to build a quick opinion about labour it would be: Labour = true (dirty) socialists.
kotapaka 2 weeks ago
thank you! Labour needs to be dissolved and everyone within it thrown in fucking prison! they are a bunch of crooks who ran our country into the ground!
Willforbes296532 2 weeks ago
He`s spot on, `New` Labour did distance themsels from the working class in their distorted belife that we are all middle class now, despite the obvious fact that the working class have become trapped low paid shitty jobs, if they can get one at all, with little prosepcts of `aspiring` to better things.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
dam he was right they lost it didn't they?
keshsor 2 weeks ago
Weldone, even if he is a paki! ;)
XxGREATxBRITAINxX 3 weeks ago
@XxGREATxBRITAINxX You simple minded idiot! All people from Asia are `Packies`, are they? He`s also British just like me and you!
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal You're that hyped up on thinking you're right and that much of a dick for saying that I'm not even going to answer you. Seriously though I hope you get the shit kicked out of you by these pakie's like that Daniel Stringer did you paki supporting scum.
XxGREATxBRITAINxX 2 weeks ago
@XxGREATxBRITAINxX Thanks for your comments.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@XxGREATxBRITAINxX By the way, you did actually answer me, as your elloquently crafted comment to me shows!
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@planettockford probably because the foreigners come here to WORK and actively look for jobs, and the British youth think they deserve it and it should fall into their laps.
livvyxo 3 weeks ago
@livvyxo Not as simple as that mate, if you live in what used to be a council estate where there are no jobs, and no prospects or the chance to go to college or university. I used to think like you and come from a housing estate myslef, but many people in the UK are in terrible positions today and its not their fault and they can not easilly `aspire` to better things as too much damage had been done to working class areas.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal It's ridiculous to tar everyone with the same brush obviously, but having lived on the dole on a shitty council estate myself, there were plenty of immigrants sure, but there were also more than plenty of british people expecting everything to be handed to them.
livvyxo 1 week ago
@livvyxo some do, but most don't. that is where your argument falls apart. also, yes the british youth do expect jobs, but maybe that is because most other countries take a preference to their own people, and put them first.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
Hindus are not muslims for heavens sake...after all these years it should be clear by now.. fuck..
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Every time a foreigner gets a manuel job in Britain another young Brit is consigned to signing on, smoking dope and vandalising their local area. Seems that way to me anyway.
planetrockford 3 weeks ago
to me, i thought he was a Muslim by the way he was talking and making a judgment.
grimelately 3 weeks ago
Justice party will end immigration & punish criminals to fit crime
justicepartyuk 3 weeks ago
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK LABOUR, MAY THEY NEVER BE IN POWER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIBERAL BUNCH OF PUSSIES WANT TO TURN THIS COUNTRY INTO ONE BIG JEZZA KYLE SHOW, GET A FUCKING GRIP! LABOUR = FUCK BUSINESS, SIT AT HOME WITH UR DISABLED BENEFITS GO TO HELL TONY BLAIR YOU ARSE FUCKED THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!
SuperDdb123 3 weeks ago
@SuperDdb123 we could all help each0ther if 1 million ppl gave 1 pound to each account.
we would all be rich
StockyDoccy 2 weeks ago
@SuperDdb123 .. labour aren't liberal, under the guidance of milliband they've taken a huge step back to the centre left, in the OPPOSITE direction of the middle (liberal) ground.
MrJuppys 2 weeks ago
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Give this man a medal, he's great.That marxist's face is a picture lol
CAMERONisaEUROPHILE 1 month ago
at the end of the day there are only two types of people...
there's me and there's cunts...
HOMEnHIGH 1 month ago
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This guy is my hero, it will take three generations to clear up new labour's mess! (Gordon Brown your a cunt)
kiserd13 1 month ago
This man picked his words carefully: British and English identities: similar things but different. As a British Asian man he realises the importance of such a carefully constructed idea, one that has taken centuries to build and which allows peoples of different races to intergrate into this country. He also realises that it is based on institutions, laws and customs that the last Labour government, and all progressives (including Cameron), have eroded to the point that they have collapsed.
burtingtune 1 month ago
@burtingtune You've just made an extremely clever and intelligent observation. Especially with regard to the last Labour government, and all progressives (including Cameron), allowing institutions - that have taken centuries to build - to collapse. The Labour government allowing state Grammar Schools to collapse was a particularly vicious assault on the likelihood of children being given an opportunity to progress. Note also that the Labour elitists send their kids to POSH schools.
RedGoblinus 4 weeks ago
This man is an immigrant, that is plain enough. But he is educated. This is the kind of immigrant we need to be letting in, intelligent men and women who can contribute to the nation and sees the importance of a common identity. Not these swarms of people who drain the state of money rather than helping it.
The real problem here is identity. Multiculturalism is a mistake, immigration is not necessarily.
Gustaveleloup 1 month ago 33
@Gustaveleloup 1/2: Drain the State of money, do they? If it were not for immigration, the UK ecconomy would be in even worse condition than the privitized upper class gravy train that it is now since industry was killed off. People come to Uk for a better life and work hard. Without immigration, ther ewould be nobody to do the mundane jobs others will not do or can not afford to do. We would trouble finding doctors, nurses and other vital professionals if it were not for
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal if there was no immigration, we definitely wouldn't have trouble finding doctors. there are hundreds of people qualifying each year, and not just immigrants. I agree, manual labour would be severely lacking, but just a restriction of immigration could save our national identity as well as a better economy from less benefits.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld Hello. Thanks for your reply. A compex subject thus generating a muktitude of repsonees that are, in turn, all have validity. However, I stand by my asserstion that issue of immigration is a smoke screen for politicions to use as an effective weapon that the public will react to as an evasisve means of discussig the real issues, i,e. the lack of good, decent paying jobs, affordable housing and the rising delcine of the average working person.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal i wish your assertion is correct, but alas it isn't. Immigration is a problem. agreed, some immigrants, particularly the polish, will gratefully work and so deserve a place. but others, particularly the middle easterns (sorry to generalise but its true) don't work, claim benefits, costing the country millions, and worse of all they are the ones that complain the most when their benefits are cut or are deported, claiming 'human rights'.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld I`m so confused and angry about the state of the UK that I could be tempted to agree, I just don`t know how much, in tangable terms, immigarion posses a threat to UK and the UK ecconomy. It is used a sa smoke screen, I belive by government for public debate in evasion of the real issues. In temrs of your assertion about benifits, dosn`t corpporate tax evasion cost the UK far more whilst the average Jo compensates for it via VAT and inflation?
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal what you've got to understand is many people are coming in, ok. most don't give anything back to the economy, but the country believes it should treat them fairly by paying them benefits. this greatly outweighs the money coming in, so negative income develops: essentially, we're losing money. In fact, immigration is a real issue, but no MP's wish to tackle it for fear of being branded racist. One party tried to tackle it: they're called the BNP. Look how popular they are.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld 1/2 What I uderstand is what I have already conveyed to you in my comments. The real issue is the destruction of industry and the resulting dependance on the `market` to generate real revune from The City, and how the average working perosn has been thrown to the scrap heap as a resukt of the beginings of the globalization process in 1979. It is tue that political parties have lost their tradiitonal base, `New` Labour for example due to their beliefe
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal 2/2 that we are all middle class now where people are living in realtive poveerty in cities that were once engineering giants where people earned a good income. immigration is now a tool used to avoid these real issues and people are being drawn to it and the BNP/UKIP etc as they turn their backs on parties that abanodned them, as `New` found to their cost as these Etonian multi millionaires were returned to power. Look where we are now, largest ublic sector cuts for years.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld Since I came out of the RAF after 20 years in 2006, I too faced this, going from one crappy, low paid shitty job after the other. I turned down a place at university even then due to the costs involved. I don` t blame this people who come here for a better life as I know the real reasons for such hard times, unless you are middle/upper classs of course, and you`re sheltered from it.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal i think you're starting to miss the point here. I'm not saying that all immigration is bad, and i'm not blaming people for coming here as standards of living are far better here, but immigration is only good when the people coming in are giving something back. Yes, lack of industry is a problem, but it is far less costly and more expensive and time consuming to solve.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld What we need, ans as the recent riots showed the possible beginings of, is a fucking revolution in the UK. When you have most elite and wealthy at the vety top in a minority and the worse off and less affulent at the very bottom in a vast majority, that my friend, is therealization of true democracy. and the cataylist for change.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal the worse off are in a vast majority. why are they worse of? because there are no jobs. Why are there no jobs? because immigrants are filling in the jobs. this isn't necessarily a bad thing, as there work for less and do more. the manual labour jobs are now taken up, and there is no industry, so everyone else is forced to get an educated career, e.g. doctors, but there are too many people applying. Bottom line is there are too many people. we need a clear out, not a revolution.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld Bottom line is, the ruling elite are in charge and the average person and tax payer are funding their life style, and all the issues you mention nare faced by everybody.Then we need a scape goat, a finger to point and blame people with when we should be sthat finger up the arses of the people in power who have brought us here not immigrants to this or any other contry. Let`s now agree to politely disagree. Cheers, take care. Garry.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal yes, the people in power brought us here. New Labour supported immigration and multiculturalism etc etc. and never capped it. Yes, the governments do point blame on immigration, but it is still an issue regardless. Best Regards. Jack.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
@8corporal so, there are too many people. what do we do? the logical choice is to get rid of the non workers, essentially the immigrants as they aren't from here originally. Look at Poland. it's birth rate is incredibly low and its economy is struggling. give them their workers back. we have less people and they have more workers: win-win situation.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld Look, we could go on all night art this rate mate. The solution? Let`s shake hands, say good noght and cheers and wish uis all luck. I think we`re going to need it. I emmigrated to Canada on 2008, my marriage has just failed (my wofe is Canadian) and the thought of coming back home scares me shitless mate!
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@InhabitantOfOddworld Sorry for the poor spelling here, one fingured typing syndrome!
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup 2/2 immigration. This is an issues that gets distorted and deliberately manipulated by politicions as the issues that imigrants face, we all face, i.e. good paying, secure jobs with protection, wages you can live on along with inflation, affordable housing, including local auhtority housing, and a better life. I left the Uk in 2008 after 19 years in the RAF due to the fact that I could not secure a job that poaid enough to allow me to have disposable income for even
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup 3/3 a holiday, just to cover the bills and that level of income was delining more and more every year out of sinc with inflation as VAT is a tax on the working class. We have people here in Labrador where I live from S/E Asia wth degrees working in a cafe for the same reasons, a better life due to much of that part of the wold being screwed oveer by the IMF and Wolrd Bank. So, take off the blinkers, and understand the real issues that really matter! Cheers. Garry.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
@8corporal I certainly agree that immigration has its benefits. I'm Canadian, and my country was built on immigration. However, we cannot allow immigration to get out of control. Canada's immigration policy today is much too liberal. The problem is multiculturalism. If we (and by 'we', I mean the soft-headed left wing politicians) allow foreign cultures to supplant our own, the country will end up wih a culture/identity crisis, from which, I would say, Canada already suffers.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@8corporal (cont.) I have no problem with educated immigrants such as the gentleman in this video, as I have made clear. If we invite swarms of uneducated, unskilled immigrants as labourers, they will, firstly, take the jobs from the country's original inhabitants (I shall return to this in a moment). Secondly, large numbers of a certain group, coupled with multiculturalist policies will, quite simply, drown out the country's culture. And I shall be forthright: I mean Muslims.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@8corporal (cont.2) I am no racist, believe me. My views, as you might have noticed, have more to do with culture. Muslims are pouring into Europe and North America and we can no longer pretend that nothing is changing. I don not need to discuss here the implications of Islamisation. Multiculturalism has failed.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@8corporal (cont.3) Now I return to my point. The purpose of immigration should not be solely to benefit the immigrant, which is where multiculturalism is wrong. Let us not forget that immigration is (or at least was) meant to help the economy of a country. Unfortunately, we cannot invite every refugee from every war-torn, backwards country into Western nations.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@8corporal (cont.4) I conclude: immigrants should contribute something to the society they enter, whether it is labour or learning or whatever else. What an immigrant must not do is drain the money of the state. Our governments are too generous; not everyone can be helped. On an international level, a country must pursue that which will benefit it first. Immigration must therefore be limited. Multiculturalism must be done away with.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@8corporal I realise that I haven't actually answered some of your points. I've mostly been elaborating on my first comment. I'd be happy to discuss these matters further, but right now I need to go to bed.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@8corporal I apologise for being rather long-winded. It is an important topic and these are my views. There are six comments besides this one if you're interested in reading my whole argument. I also apologise if my form is a little messy. I realise that I do jump around a bit.
I invite others to reply and carry on this discussion. It is ever so stimulating.
G. Leloup
God Save the Queen
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup....no one can possibly stop immigration, lot of people immigrate from this country to other (eg spain etc) countries too...they could argue the same however it is crucial we do not divide people into catagories on the basis of their origin. immigration is social as well as natural phenomenon as animals migrate. We have served in British Gurkha Regiment under labour yet we were never recognized as equal even though we fought for this land or contributed to the nation as you argued.
braveGurkhali 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup I completely disagree with you on this, people who are professionals in their own countries should not be a priority for UK immigration, we should be taking in those in dire situations, asylum seekers etc, and using our position of privilege to offer them help. WE should be asking ourselves what we can do for others, not what they can do for us.
uninsp1redusername 2 weeks ago 2
@uninsp1redusername I think it should all be about what they can do for us. Countries like Australia and America are difficult to migrate to because they want migrants to offer them something. Occasionally its ok to be selfish, we have people of our own who need help, we shouldn't encourage immigrants who can't offer us anything, because our own people will then take a back seat in terms of priority and we'll just be allowing migrants to sponge.
nattyasha101 1 week ago
@nattyasha101 Exactly.
Gustaveleloup 1 week ago
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@uninsp1redusername I can't disagree more with you, if you were "always using our position of privilege to offer them help" you would reach economic bankruptcy. We aren't a charity we are a nation. We can't go around helping EVERYONE. That's part of the reason for the riots in the summer. Socially deprived. Recent statistics show the majority of rioters. were foreign. The UK offered them false hop in the form of a better life, we can't always provide hence the trouble we see.
16MattC 1 week ago
@uninsp1redusername We can't forever take people in. The people who benefit our society are the smart ones who can work like doctors etc... they can contribute back to us what they take. With "those in dire situations, asylum seekers etc," they contribute NOTHING back. They become a drain on society.
16MattC 1 week ago
@uninsp1redusername You are running a country, not a shelter for the homeless. Your position isnt even noble and cute, its naive and stupid.
OttawaReallySucks 1 week ago
@uninsp1redusername -- That noble quest is fine for a person on an individual level, but is not suitable for a national policy.
boomtao 1 week ago
@uninsp1redusername Nice idea but totally unrealistic. I have been to countries where they laugh at Britain for being the 'saps' of the world. Even immigrants who have grown up here didnt want the mass 'open door' naive insanity introduced under Labour (inc letting hundreds of people who want to kill us!) . We are a very small country and already overcrowded to the point where the infrastructure is buckling under the weight.
ipolson 1 week ago
@uninsp1redusername Our position of privilege...
We have what, 14% unemployment right now? How about we fix that first?
MitchofSmeg 1 week ago
@uninsp1redusername , our country is a capitalist one, and as amazing as it would be to help those in need, we simply cannot afford it as it isn't profitable, as is being proven in this country every single day.
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leerees 4 days ago
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This clearly proves that the English spirit lives in us all on this island! Good on him! lol
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whispersosoftly 1 month ago
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@whispersosoftly Yet hes more british than you.... do you understand what he is saying or is the are you so preplexed that his grasp on the english language far outstrips yours? What do you contribute to this nation ill bet your on benifits scroungeing of the system.
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@artydean2 - well said!
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@whispersosoftly - well said!
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@whispersosoftly yes, he may have bad english, and is quite possibly dyslexic, but you are an unnecessarily racist faggot. That man may be of indian origin, but how do you know he hasn't lived here for many years, and how does that prevent him from understanding our national identity. in fact, he probably understands it better than you, and you just made a racist comment because you're too thick to understand his argument and how to counter it.
InhabitantOfOddworld 2 weeks ago
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A wise and honest man.
warriorprince1010 1 month ago
Labour is dead.
Dendiol 1 month ago
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I agree with the man. the sad thing is that if he would have been white they would have called him a bigot.
Ashmansworth 1 month ago
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I read wisest comment ,I thought yea right.I`m amazed its all true,they have destroyed britain !
xfire7 1 month ago
This fellow is Indian, right? Or do we have at least one paki who is almost human?
poolehart 1 month ago
@poolehart wow.
fictiondnb 1 month ago
CUNTS
KillTheStranger 1 month ago
@coopertroopa , couldn't agree more I'm an Aussie and it is everywhere here now I hang my head in shame at our youth listening to this junk and wearing hoodies looking like trash, I sure hope we don't lose our identity to this rat music that promotes poverty, hate , violence etc
whiteyy11 1 month ago
I'm sorry he is talking about the British government and he is not even British
TheSamo199 1 month ago
@TheSamo199 how do you know? you seen his passport?
yaakhee 1 month ago
well said!!
Smellycat1990 1 month ago
"all of our kids are walking around talking patwa" - I've never seen that before.
THthefirst 1 month ago
Old Labour - New Labour - Fuck Labour
Nobody can rescue Labour.
karezza6 1 month ago
This was not the wisest ever comment on British TV. It was a stupid comment.
blackmichael75 1 month ago
@blackmichael75 It was a lot wiser than anything Brown or Blair said. He's fucking right. Jeesh, you must be ignorant not to understand his point.
BENJIMANBREEG33 1 month ago
Abolish working class? Ha! There will never be an equal class system. It's very foolish to believe it is possible. I like this guy, I'd shake his hand. Spot on! Conservative might not be the best option, but they'll do.
nachocheese154 1 month ago
fucking hell, some of the comments here are frightening. go back to school kids
neverdat100 1 month ago
The guy is not even english daamn
Ariun1725x 1 month ago
@Ariun1725x Still has a point though.
sirAthrus 1 month ago
If you think this comment is 'wise' you really need to watch more tv.
frankiethefrank 1 month ago
Wow...I'm not even British and even I think this is brilliant! lol
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
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@MasterJediTimm
MasterJediTimm's REVELATION, "Wow...I'm not even British and even I think this is brilliant! lol"
>Just goes to show you, you don't have to be British to qualify for Stupid.
Like the Labour party is fully responsible. Not.
Cast blame where it belongs. Caritas in Veritate, the third encyclical of Pope Benedict XVI and his first social encyclical. Signed on June 29, 2009.
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ProtonicNation 1 month ago
Shame on Labour to have to be told by an immigrant that they have destroyed our national identity.
Hereticalable 1 month ago
The last Labour government was a shambles. Its leadership had little experience of real life. Never worked in industry and commerce. Never did any military service but was very interested in starting wars, and sending our troops into battle with hardly a pot to piss in. They all seemed to be part-time lawyers, journalists, and academics. The Brit working class were exploited as part of an interesting social experiment that back-fired on the party.
Basicallybenign 1 month ago
@Basicallybenign An absolutely superb post, you write it the way it really was. The last Labour government really did go all out to exploit the British working man and the system that employed them. For example, Tony Blair and his wife must now be millionaires many times over from exploiting their office.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
Hahaha hahahahaaaa haha
buck8ab 1 month ago
I STILL cannot understand why they stopped this man from talking.....
CooperTroopa 1 month ago
@CooperTroopa because truth hurts politicians.
airsoftmanic 1 month ago
WE have bought poverty to our own country & ditched our people in it, for the sake of annual rising corporation contract targets... eg vodaphone, sky, Aviva.ect. These foreigners are placed here to make rich people richer & poor people poorer.
CooperTroopa 1 month ago
Even the Asian people of England can see that the governments flood of foreigners has taken away our children's English/British identity. This is why all of our kids are walking around talking patwa, with pants hanging around there fucking ankles. with life long dreams of gunning down other arseholes.
CooperTroopa 1 month ago 3
@CooperTroopa I salute you, Sir.
84Latty 1 month ago
@CooperTroopa I can see why part of the problem is to do with immigration. But that doesn't justify white british kids walk around with that tracksuits tucked in their socks, talking in thick English slang and stabbing each other outside pubs and night clubs. Immigration isn't helping, but it sure as hell doesn't take the blame away from the fact that English are just as much to blame for the way people view the youth of this country.
christophcooneyoff 1 month ago
@christophcooneyoff Since my mates started loving HipHop & the attitude it promotes, they have become Rude, nasty, selfish & totally dislikeable to strangers.
HipHop is part of MOBO. so I can actually see a direct link to Black culture, spreading into the English community via the poverty stricken, a new Patwa, almost reclassifying itself as 'Youth culture' or 'Thick English slang' as you describe it. In my eyes, there in no link to English inspiration here. it is all originating from MOBO.
CooperTroopa 1 month ago
@CooperTroopa I agree mate. And most of our music is hiphop based now.
BENJIMANBREEG33 1 month ago
@CooperTroopa Oh come the hell on. You think music robs them of their common sense? Every kid goes through a rough stage. My point is that the link between immigration and youth violence, compared to the link between, shall we say, poor parenting, and youth violence. Your argument hangs entirely on prejudice mate. Your own experiences aren't grounds for a statistically based theory.
christophcooneyoff 1 month ago
@christophcooneyoff the longer you stick up for them... the longer this will take... Music isn't robbing anyone of common sense... these kids do not care for common sense... They believe, the ruder the better... it's really happening. Go to hackney & ask for some directions mate.
CooperTroopa 1 month ago
@CooperTroopa Stick up for who exactly? Them!? Whether you like it or not they are British citizens. They aren't the enemy. They are kids. And with out leadership being as hilariously absent as it is, when it comes to the issues of youth, along with peer pressure and consumerism that's forced down their throats, they are very much the victim of the older generation's failures. But aside from ALL of that, the "victims" come in all shapes, sizes, colours and creeds so less of your ignorance please
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@CooperTroopa lol
asammieawa 1 month ago
@CooperTroopa ITS PATOIS YOU NON-JAMAICAN ENGLISH PERSON!!
DellDoll15 1 month ago
someone's forgot what a question is...
thehobbidhobbin 1 month ago
"Fishing net" brilliant.
m3anthony 1 month ago
this should be on " Asians say the Dumbest things".
watchMEshyne 1 month ago
Labour destroyed the country, i only hope they never get chance to do it again! They have no morals and no idea what the british people want!
EnglishHighsociety 1 month ago
@EnglishHighsociety You're not even allowed to post dog turds through black peoples' letterboxes these days. It's political correctness gone mad
lordhoot1 1 month ago
Indeed, the Labour Party is dead. The Labour Party has been hijacked by public school educated Marxist tossers that have not had to do a proper day's work in their entire lives. As a result, the British working man is not now represented by the 'Labour' Party. Even worse is the fact that the Labour Party have sold Britain out to the hopelessly corrupt and criminal led European Union project.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago 31
@RedGoblinus hoplessy corrupt and criminal led european union?? considering you seem to be sticking up for the working class let me inform that the only decent rights workers have gained in recent years are ones that were pushed through by europe, only this month has it been made the law that agency workers are to be paid the same wage and have the same holiday entitlement as their permanent co workers. Ofcourse the tories tried to block this law as it would 'damge the economy'
realot1 1 month ago
@realot1 The only organisations that have stood up for British workers and their rights over the years are the Trades Unions. The Labour Party has now been hijacked by public school educated lawyers with their own money making agendas. As for the European Union, it is a rich men's club there to exploit workers by helping employers pick and choose the labour they can employ cheapest. E.g. currently, British employers are encouraged by the EU to employ cheaper Eastern European labour.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus Well said!
lac7rda 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus could you tell me how Employers are encouraged to employ from Eastern Europe? And explain howEastern European labour is cheaper than British labour considering the law I previously stated is now in place? sounds like your reading from the same daily mail page that attacks europe aswel as the trade unions
realot1 1 month ago
@realot1 You need to open your eyes, England has been flooded with workers from Eastern Europe. Anyway, it's the Daily Express tabloid newspaper that attacks the European Union - good on them. I don't read much anti EU sentiment in the Daily Mail - the Daily Mail should concentrate their editorials on attacking the EU and our home grown traitors that support this criminally corrupt and fascist entity. The EU sucks.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus @RedGoblinus So you have failed to answer any of my questions? why on one hand would you support unions and the working class yet quote the daily express you only have to read leo mckinstry or patrick oflyn to know they are right wing capitalists who despise unions the right to strike and workers rights. Quoting these papres really highlights peoples ignorance and keeps workers divided which is their agenda.
realot1 1 month ago
@realot1 Oh, I see, I have failed to answer your questions. My stand point is perfectly obvious if you read my posts. The enlightened chap in the video stated that the Labour Party is dead and they've destroyed everything they've got their hands on. The Labour Party does not represent British working people - not surprising considering the fact that they've been hijacked by public school educated Marxists that have never had to do a real job for a shit wage in their entire lives.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus As a marxist, one who has not been educated at a public school, I have to say I agree with you, the Labour party do not reflect the needs or opinons of the working classes, as a left wing party should. As a a result, it seems that the labour party are, essentially, the Conservative party. However, it must be said that no party reflects the needs and opinions of the working class, especially not the Conservative party.
lou3331mig4413 1 month ago
@lou3331mig4413 In my opinion, the Labour government of 1974-79 better represented the needs and opinions of the British worker. Surprising, given that one its greatest thinkers - Tony Benn - actually had an aristocratic background. That government even gave the people a referendum on our membership of the corrupt EEC project in 1975. So many true left wingers were purged from the Labour party in the 1980s that Labour do not and cannot now properly represent British workers.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus I entirely agree that Labour has moved away from its socialist origins in the quest for votes. In that, many parties are competing for the centre ground. Hence new labour and the move from the left. However, I would rather have the Labour party in power than a conservative, or right wing party, in power.
lou3331mig4413 1 month ago
@lou3331mig4413 I don't want any political party in power that would sell Britain out to the openly fascist and criminal led European Union project. I'm keeping a very close eye on the Tories at the moment because it was they who signed us up to the EEC in 1973 without any kind of democratic referendum. The core of the Tory party is the Toff landowner class that gain from membership of the EU via Common Agricultural Policy handouts - the taxes we pay given to Toffs via the EU !!
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus I fail to see how the EU is fascist, but I will admit I am ignorant of the Anit-EU arguments.
lou3331mig4413 1 month ago
@lou3331mig4413 The EU promotes the power of the state, via endless rules and regulations, over individual freedom and the EU was fully backed by the Labour Party. In this respect the EU and the Labour Party are openly fascist. The Labour Party also had fancy new courthouses built - at massive expense to the British taxpayer - throughout the UK. Thus Tony Blair was doing his bit as a lawyer to help his Toff lawyer mates subjugate the honest and hard working British working man.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus I fail to see how that makes the EU or Labour Fascists:
"Fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics.[3][4]" They aren't fascist
lou3331mig4413 1 month ago
@lou3331mig4413 "Corporatists of left, right and centre show a marked hostility to allegations that the European Union is fundamentally fascist. This is perhaps not surprising since they combine in their belief in supranational government, collective solutions, corporatist economics, State intervention and what Tony Blair often termed the 'Third Way' most of the characteristics of fascism." Excerpt from: 'Why the European Union is fundamentally fascist' by Philip Jones.
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
@RedGoblinus The british working man will find in the future he has many allies he never knew he had .... give it time comrad ;)
kargwain187 1 month ago
@kargwain187 I hope you're right because many a British working man is now down on the ground and taking a kicking. The enlightened man in the video was right when he stated that "the Labour Party has destroyed the soul of the British working man and woman."
RedGoblinus 1 month ago
'New Labour is obsessed with making everyone equal' - if you seriously think that's the wisest comment ever on British TV I'd get a little bit more educated if I were you!
jackwilshiresfakeid 1 month ago
I think the title of the vid should be, 'MOST IRONIC COMMENT ON BRITISH TV'
MrMikerusty 1 month ago
Is he English?
Londonpixxie 1 month ago
@Londonpixxie who gives a fuck?
coffeefish94 1 month ago