Even if dinosaurs were still alive, how would this be going against evolution? Also, radioactive dating down by thousands of scientists, you need evidence they are wrong. In Genisis, it says 7 day creation, but when a lot of metiphores are in Bible, why should this not be? It could be millions of years and just 7 important times. Also, God wants people to believe in him, not give them science. It is hard enough to convince someone of God, billions of years would be harder back then.
Not only is evolutionism founded upon fairly tales and ridiculous conjectures (like primordial soup and fish turning into frogs) and creationism is based on actual physical evidence (which happens to support what the Bible says), but most creationist lecturers have amusing personality and humor, like Hovind. Contrast this with the drab, serious, and anal lectures and personalities of evolutionists like Dawkins who appears to always suffer from constipation.
@BachScholar "... drab, serious, and anal lectures and personalities of evolutionists like Dawkins who appears to always suffer from constipation."-BachScholar
>A fine observation. Dawkins always constipated for having to keep track of all the jesuit lies held up to support a bogus theory of a fairy tale "pre"-historic world. A mythical world promoted in modern science & biology textbooks which have 'evolved' into nothing more than story books for adults.
>No, that' your brain, having been pierced by a plethora of jesuit created lies of false-science theory hoax deceptions and promoted by the knoghts of malta controlled mass media "programming" system network.
Truth sounds strange when we have been indoctrinated with fictions our entire lives.
"... made me lose 20sec of my life with this BS!"-balau7
>Maybe the only 20 seconds of your life, that on this matter, you ever heard any truth.
Truth sounds strange when we have been indoctrinated with fictions since the day we were born. Jesuit controlled Academia and a Knights of Malta controlled mass media "programming" network have brainwashed millions into a world of false realities.
"Canopy of water overhead?!? I think he just made that up, no evidence, just like the flood."-gregrutz
>Mr. Hovind didn't make up cloud banks. God did. There is more observable geological physical proof and evidence of a global flood scattered all across Gods green (and blue) earth that one could shake a stick at.
@SpencerBenedict2nd Floods don't make distinct layers of different kinds of rocks in random order, which is what we find in nature. Where did 29000 feet of water go? What is the name of the flood mud layer with all the dead bodies in it?
"Floods don't make distinct layers of different kinds of rocks..."-gregrutz
>Floods creating distinct layers of strata is EXACTLY what floods do - It's called Hydrological Sorting!
Not you, but EVERYBODY ELSE READING THIS can Google Image Search either, "Hydrologic Sorting" or "Hydrological Sorting" to see exactly how the historic 2348 B.C. deluge created all the strata layers found exposed across the entire globe.
Hovind's doctorate was in "Christian Education" from the Patriot Bible University which is not accredited by any recognized accreditation agency. He has no scientific qualifications. His dissertation has no title, no TOC, outlines 16 chapters but contains only 4, has no bibliography, and is full of errors such as "geological epic" for "geological epoch", and "centrifical force" for "centrifugal force". It contains no original research, the basis on which a PhD is supposed to be awarded.
LMFAO, religious people look weird.. i love when someone who is very religious is presented scientific proof of something their reply is something simple like "how do you know", or "in genises 666 god said blah blah blah blah blah"... religion itself is the same as personal delusion, if something is drilled in to your mind enough, you will eventually believe it.
@gregrutz Oh gregrutz , you have just been DECEIVED by them science fellahs. Everyone knows how stoopid they are. Our pastor told me , and he says I am going to heaven ooooweeee. He said I caint take my money with me tho , and he would look after it real personal.
@gregrutz Dinosaurs alive today would prove they haven't evolved (like that deep sea fish they found in the 1930s). Bacteria are still bacteria; not a cross between them and something else. Fish are still fish (unless given lungs as well as gills).
All that's happened is species have varied according to gene shuffling and natural selection. The ones most suited to the environment survived to reproduce, while those like the dodo didn't.
@Pulsar205 Thanks for proving my point. Yes they found the lobe finned fish and were wrong about it going extinct.
It does not prove evolution wrong. Sharks are 'older' than dinosaurs, have not 'evolved' much, and no one says a thing. Because it fits with evolution theory.
And yes species changed according to gene shuffling and natural selection. The ones most suited to the environment survived to reproduce, while those like the dodo didn't.
this guy is fucking retarded, all of his facts are messed up...he's no funny...he is just not smart, i would love to know what school he went to to lern about dinosaurs and the life span of the avrage human...900 years.. thats a joke the oldest was noah and he lasted around 200 years.
@gregrutz Ah gregrutz. How are you doing. Still an evolutionist I see :)
I think you'll find plenty of evidence from things like 7 mile deep ocean trenches in the Pacific. They were sucked out from the pressure loss of what was lost spewing out of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
@gregrutz I'm not an expert so don't be facecious. I'm just an ordinary common sense thinking guy. You might not listen to unconfirmed reports but someone might check them out and learn something.
@gregrutz Yes that's right! We have living 'dinosaurs' and various species thought extinct that haven't evolved..and no one in the orthodox scientific community questions it at all lol
@ilikezappa ya he and his wife are in jail now for hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax fraud.. Actually I think his wife avoided it but he's definetely serving time..
There is a great chance they r still alive. Think bout it. The entire earth was not covered with the flood. So the flyers and water based can still survive. Even then animals can adapt to their surroundings. I believe only a portion of the earth was flooded not the whole thing.
@y2joct7 The bible clearly says the ENTIRE earth was flooded. If it was a local flood then why didn't God just tell noah to move instead of building an ark? I'm not sure why you believe it was only a local flood but I would be happy to talk to you about it. Geological evidence confirms it was a world wide flood.
@micah1116 I'll discuss this but in a civilized manner please no pointless arguing or name calling. I feel my local flood b/c Im a christian but the bible was written by man. God inspired them but what if along the way they saw something they didnt like and choose to not put it in the bible.
@y2joct7 Sure, I never intended to do any name calling. I have nothing personal against you at all. The bible clearly teaches the flood was world wide in several versed throughout the bible. Also Noah and his family were the only family that was not genetically corrupted by the Nephilim so it had to be a world wide flood, that's the entire reason was chosen. He was perfect in his generations as the bible says, that's what it means by that statement.
15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
"Eat grass like an ox?" Sauropod dinosaurs, such as Brachiosaurus were totally incapable of eating grass like an ox. They feed on vegetation by ripping it off with their teeth and swallowing it, which was then "chewed" by having gastroliths to aid in digestion) grind up the vegetation through peristalic movement. This was a method totally unlike the rumination of oxen.
16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly.
"Navel" a physical structure where an umbilical cord would have been attached when he was in his mother's uterus. Dinosaurs, as egg-laying animals, did not have umbilical cords, and therefore did not have navels.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
It does Not say that his tail is the size of a cedar but rather moveth like a cedar. Moreover, the "tail" is a euphemism for male genitalia. Support for this is based on the meaning of the Hebrew word "move" which means "extend" and on the second part of verse 17 describing the sinew around its "stones" (the Vulgate uses the word "testiculorum")
Cicero confirms that ancients used to refer to the penis as the "tail". This interpretation is lent further credence by the fact that discussion of this organ is followed by a description of the beast's "stones" which the Targums equate with the testicles.
The comparison of the "tail" with a tree was metaphorical and that it was intended to convey the impressive dimensions of this appendage. In accordance with these interpretations, this passage is rendered by translator Stephen Mitchell to read, "Behold now the Beast" His penis stiffens like a pine; his testicles bulge with vigor."
21 He lieth under the lotus-trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
The NASB renders the passage as: "Under the lotus plants he lies down, the willow (reeds) of the brook surround him." As Greg Neyman notes, "it is difficult to imagine the Argentinosaurus, (a large Sauropod) at 100 feet long, and height of 40 feet when standing (sitting , probably 20 feet tall), resting under the short limbs of a lotus plant, nor would he be able to take cover in reeds only a few feet tall.
Talk about an idiot....no, we still have apricots today, go to your grocery still moron. I would be shot, killed, or thrown in prison by the government on some bogus tax-evasion charge like Dr.Kent Hovind. Look up his video cure for cancer. I have it on my channel. The Hunza tribe which I was talking about NEVER got cancer. 1960 wasn't a long time ago dumb ass. B17 has cyanide which is activated by cancer cells, and the cyanide selectively destroys the cancer cells. The hospitals cover this up.
I'm not sure how you missed that sarcasm, I piled it as high as I knew how.
Claims like vitamin therapies being cures for cancer is some of the most dishonest and harmful lies I have ever come across. Various independent studies have shown it to be ineffective and toxic. Correlations do not mean facts... this is why studies are done. Remember when people thought sharks couldn't get cancer so they ate shark parts. Turns out to be false like almost all unscientifically based claims.
Get your head out of your ass. The hospitals make billions of their medications, and treatments. Do you think they would risk all that for a 30 cent fruit?? I bet you didn't even know there was a cure for aids, but there is, and I'll give you the patent # , and proof. There's a lot that you don't know, because you believe whatever you're told by the government, and the school system. You don't think for yourself. MY favorite Bible verse,"speak not into the ear of a fool, for they despise wisdom"
Why don't you make a website indicating every medical treatment that medicine has covered up and sell them to make money... wait that has been done already and none of them work.
But then again I suppose your internet research is far more accurate then real schooling.
Because I'm only 18 you dumb ass. I don't have the resources for that shit, and no, it hasn't been done, although there might be a few websites out there already doing it, so stfu
This guy is full of crap. I am a strong Christian but I even know that you don't take all of the bible literally. I base my faith on my experience with God.
Dr. Kent Hovind is a brilliant man, and you pale in comparison compared to him. I think his credentials exceed yours by far. This guy is in prison for doing what he does, and for laws, and taxes that don't exist in order to shut him up. I've researched his case, and he's wrongfully imprisoned. You're blinded, and have scales on your eye lids.
@ProConstitutioner Look at the creation story compared to evolution. In the beginning God said let there be light! The big bang. Which animals came first? Ocean dwellers. Which came first in evolution? Ocean dwellers! I personally believe that God caused evolution, because how can nothing make something?
I'm speechless right now... Yeah an ice barrier surrounding the earth is what made people live 900 years waaaay back in the day. Read a modern genetics text. Telomeres at the ends of each chromosome are shortened each time the genome is copied. This stupidity has NO effect on aging at this scale.
Ancient civilization all over the world speak of what's known as the "golden age" when people lived to be almost a thousand years old. Even history backs up these claims. Before the flood there was 98% more oxygen in our air(something like that ), and different conditions. Did you know a remote tribe was found in the middle eastern countries in 1960, and their life span was 160 years, they lived off of apricot seeds which has a vitamin known as B17 which kills cancer cells, and spans your life.
Even though what you say is complete trash... If this miracle vitamin is around today (apricots aren't extinct yet right) then why don't you make millions of dollars and cure cancer worldwide? Why was there less oxygen after the flood?
God made every single animal in 6 days he did it in his own image and for all the people who believe in evolution is wrong how could of every single living thing come from a rock and where did the rock come from? And the big boom theroy that is not true either how could there be a big boom out of nowhere there is only one true God and that is Jesus Christ
God is a bunch of shit made up to trick dumb, stupid people like yourself, I don't have a problem with people thinking there is a magical place where you go when you die, but it pisses me off when people like you think that they are smarter than everyone else just because they believe in a magical fucken man who shits wine out his arse. Evolution is pretty much the only possible way for us to be here. And if you don't like it then you can piss off!
you talk like a religious fanatic even if yet i do believe in jesus, stop talking about things you dont know and even more stop being angry like that if you were actually a "dumb" believer you wouldnt rant like an idiot and would talk like a civilized man
Mountains rise and fall. Mountians are formed either by old unactive valcanoes or two land masses either coastal or underground falts hitting each other. India hit Asia which formed mt. Everest those where two coastal land masses. And that is why there are shell there. Their are many cities at lye under water there was one found off of the island of japan. Flood happen all the time.
I beleive in god and all his wonders. But the idea that evolution is not the way we were made is crazy. When the bible stated that we were made in his image it was meant as his soul. Adam and Eve is a story. The noahs flood happened in a small part of the world. Dinosaurs are not over grown lizards. The idea that time was understood how we understand it today is stupid 100 years for Noah chould of been something like 17 years for use cause we see time differently.
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Nor can you prove without a doubt that came from lesser life forms either... And I will live forever, not in this form, but when Christ returns I will receive that eternal life. So where does man come from, as far as evolution is concerned????
fossils prove there was a flood. they don't prove evolution. humans are more closely related to frogs than they are to apes, based on chromosome counts. since there is no evidence, belief is all we have. some choose to believe in evolution because they don't want to be accountable to a creator. so they would rather believe they are advanced apes, which is frankly, idiotic. believing in an invisible force in the sky or wherever makes more sense, especially since we already know energy is sentient
No, fossils do not prove a flood. There is a clip on YouTube about debunking Noah's flood. You need to watch it. It explains why fossils DISPROVE Noah's flood.
Science doesn't use chromozonal counts. By that logic a grain of rice is more advanced than humans, because they contain far more genes than we do.
You are an ape. Another word for Ape is Primate. Humans were classified as Primates back in the 1700's by Christian Scientists, Scientists who actually were Creationists back then.
@BoyintheMachine Your so full of it. I'm sure the video your talking about is made by a guy named Potholder54. Am I correct? He knows nothing of geology. I've got a video in my favorites regarding this topic. The flood did cause the geologic column to form. The entire geologic column is sedimentary rock, sedimentary rock only forms under MOVING WATER, and there's over a 1/2 mile of it covering the entire planet.
It's not just one video, there are many, many videos debunking Noah's flood. That myth is one of the most retarded story in the bible. Who cleaned up all the poop? Where did they keep all the food? How did they stop animals from eating each other? It's ridiculous. It's a myth. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the flood myth.
@BoyintheMachine You deny the flood for emotional reasons, not scientific. Your question is like asking who cleans up all the poop at the zoo? I think they were smart enough to know how to take care of the animals. And your missing the whole point, if your willing to admit God intervened and helped Noah through this major event, anything is possible. And we are talking about the flood, not the actual ark.
@BoyintheMachine I've seen it and I even said who made it. Potholder54 is the person your talking about. This entire planet is covered in over 1/2 mile of sedimentary rock that is stacked ontop of each other like a pancake. Sedimentary rock only forms under moving water, and this rock holds trillions of fossils, mainly marine organisms. It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to figure out why.
I was hoping you would say that. Wind can produce sediment but not make layers of solid rock. And PLEASE explain to me how wind can cause marine organisms to be buried in solid rock? Are you that brainwashed? I mean how can you believe wind buried fish,algae,whales, etc etc in solid rock? Just admit the obvious, there was a world wide flood.
@BoyintheMachine They had to be in water when they were buried, and ofcourse they would tend to be on the bottom. There's a reason why algae tends to be on the bottom layers, birds tend to be on top along with humans. I'm sure your smart enough to figure out why. It's not too hard to figure out why.
@micah1116 The fossils are layered like this, In the bottom layer of rock are shell fossils, above that is a layer with shells and fish fossils, above that is a layer with shells, fish and amphibians fossils, above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian and reptile fossils, above that is a layer with shells, fish, amphibian, reptile fossils and dinosaur fossils SEE a Pattern? There are no human fossils found in any of these layers. No dating methods used
@BoyintheMachine There have been several emperical experiments proving that the flood did indeed happen. Type in geology for evolutionists in the youtube search engine. Watch parts 1 and two. This is a small percentage of the information. How do you explain giant clams and sea shells and fish fossils on every mountain in the world, including everest? The bible tells us the mountain arose during the flood, this is confirmed by emperical evidence.
let's see what seems more idiotic: that we evolved from common ancestor, or that Fred The Benevolent Cosmic Muffin snapped his finger and created everything ummm. And the ark story is so ridiculous it's embarrassing. It's childish.
yeah that life spontaneously organized itself and branched out. it's like putting a box of car parts in your garage and expecting to come back in a million years and drive it away...only all those parts were designed, by intelligence. and if the ark is so silly, why have they found a giant boat in turkey?
the ark is silly, and so is your example. The way you describe it means that a) you didn't understand a single thing about it or b) you're know it's wrong but you lie. Either way, you are ridiculous. You think noah lived 900 years? And put all species on that boat? Including 800 million species of insects alone? And then spread them across the continents by himself? Marsupials in Australia, etc? Are you for fuckin real
and keep believing that you saw pterodactyls flying in the moonlight, my enchanted little fool; after all, what's not to believe, once you're convinced some 2000 year old dead guy who rose from the dead is in love with you.
yes!! of course, the continents were joined, that's it, that explains how the 20 million species spread across the proper continents. plus noah had 150 years to do it, since he lived to 900. and i'm juvenile?? now stop being so aggressive, or your space daddy boogyman might come down from the sky and punish you
No, silly boy. they didn't find a boat in turkey. After 7 decades or "ark sightings" ,they found a one meter long chunk of petrified wood. Keep looking.
So is Jesus coming back on a UFO? Will he wear a spacesuit? -Because nobody can ascened into outer-space without a spacesuit and live.
Wait a minute, that's right!
The passage about Jesus ascending into Heaven is proven to have been added at a later date, thus is a forgery. Guess your book isn't as pefect as you believe! LOL
Jesus is the Son Of God...That should answer your question about a space suit. Secondly, the Book of Psalms, which was written 1000 years before Christ prophetically spoke of His ascension (Psalms 68:18 -Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.) Your claims are false. Try to do better than that. That is easily refutable :)
Actually, as i wrote below, the passages about Jesus ascending into Heaven are forgeries of a later date as they do not appear in the oldest bible, the Codex Sinaiticus.
However, you provide the standard reply of "Magic" as an explanation.
Your reference of Psalms is false and quite laughable. You silly Christians turn every single Old Testament passage into a prophecy of Jesus. Hilarious!
you don't know He ascended into outer space. go ahead, fool. mock God and the bible all you like. "do not be deceived, a man reaps what he sows" doesn't look good for you, buddy.
Jesus' acension into Heaven was added at a later date. In the oldest bible, The Codex Sinaiticus, the account of Jesus' ascension into heaven is not there. It's not missing as the text is complete. This means that somewhere along the way somebody added it to the bible. Same thing with the story about Jesus and the whore (Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...)
lol. don't be afraid, i'm sure all these mouthy twats are real talkers from the safety of a keyboard. it would really light up my day to have a chat with someone like bluerex or victorsossa in person. chances are, i wouldn't actually punch them cuz i'm not really mean. they are just rude ignorant people and deserve to be treated as such. cheers.
-your faith has put you in a situation and position where you must defend utterly false claims and beliefs against common sense and scinetific information.
Why don't you take a good, hard look on the debate here, and think.
-Thinking is not forbidden in your religion, though it might cause you to question some of the thesis in it.
You have fallen back to threats of violence, numerous times.
listen up. what do you know about my religion? or my faith? exactly jack shit, that's what. as far as how i talk to people, that is my choice. these pricks insult, demean, and think they are somehow in possession of superior knowledge, and i'm just plain tired of it. so it's time to bust some heads, because logic doesn't work on evolutionary dogma. evolution is possibly the most successful lie ever sold, and i find that amazing when otherwise intelligent people buy such bullshit.
-Plenty, I used to work in confirmation camps. Although I taught kids trusted to my supervision, to use their common sense. I have no faith in this jahve, but the pay was good for a youngster.
"Or my faith?"
-If your faith is christianity, plenty.
You retreat to threats of violence when you realize that you cannot counter rational pointers with religious dogmas.
Logic, reason and information are threats to blind faith.
are you kidding Karnoch? you ARE a violent person. You wouldn't actually punch anyone, because you're too afraid you'd end up in jail. But you are a frustrated violent little man. "shut your pie hole"? "wire your jaw shut"? How about i punch you bitch"? "before i slap you"? wow...you praise jesus with that mouth?
ha! jail! not where i come from, son. you're a jackass who thinks he can come here and insult people, mock people who criticize evolution, and they will just "turn the other cheek". well, fucker, you messed with the wrong bible-thumping jesus freak, didn't you? now take your superior attitude and dismal ignorance away from me before i crawl through the internet and pop out of your computer like the Matrix. cuz then i really will beat your ass! run boy! get on out! hahahaha
"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
- Scott D. Weitzenhoffer
Karnoch: I simply cannot interact with you further on this topic until you gain an education of the subject of which you are opposed to. You need to be knowledgable of that which you claim to disprove. You are too ignorant to waste time replying back and forth.
Look, i have repeatedly proved you wrong historically, factually, and logically. i'm sorry if that makes you unhappy, but the reality remains, you're wrong. get used to it. my understanding of science, history, and religion is obviously far greater than yours, and now that you've been trumped your best response is to pronounce me ignorant and go off to pout. clearly i am dealing with a childish mind here. good day.
karnoch: You Creationists need to organize better. You keep bringing up the same things over and over, even though they have been debunked countless times before. You probably think you are smart for saying the "thermodynamics" thing, but you failed to realize you didn't understand the second law of thermodynamics to begin with. You must likely are just repeating the crap you have been told by your religious leaders.
Creationism is a joke, The bible is mythology, get over it.
and you, i don't know if you think you're smart or not, but i assure you that you aren't very. you say debunked, i say by whom? you are just repeating whatever crap you learned in high school biology and maybe college if you made it that far. one doesn't need the bible to scientifically demonstrate that evolution is not science. that is your first mistake. the second is thinking you're smarter than me....cheers!
Please feel free to continue to believe what you want. You will die. Those who feel as you do will die too. Eventually more and more people will be properly edcuated and eventually your institionalized superstition will go extinct.
It has nothing to do with being "smarter" than you. It deals with education. If you base your beliefs on an unproven assumption, then I feel sorry for you. Science doesnt' work that way.
karnoch you claim Evolution isn't science yet you are ignorant of Evolution and Science in general. You don't feel it is necessary to even educate yourself on a topic before attempting to criticize it.
Believerss are all the same. What's important to them is belief. Reality, evidence, and proof mean nothing. All that is important is that they believe. For the religious person, when reality contradicts a cherished belief then reality is wrong....because belief is all that's important.
i know a good deal more about science than you do. your lack of understanding even the basics is deplorable. and i doubt you are capable of giving a very coherent dissertation on evolution either. funny thing is, get a number of evolutionary scientists in a room, and the number of versions to the evolution science will directly correspond to the number of scientists, as they cannot even agree amongst themselves what exactly the theory is. you fail, again.
attacking evolution is like arguing with a bunch of blind people over whether the sun exists. evolution is not science. it is ignorance with big words so fools like you can parade around your "knowledge". evolution has been proved wrong. now is your big chance! come up with a new explanation! write it down! that's all it takes, after all. people will gladly embrace whatever story you make up as long as it provides an alternative to the Truth.
You CAN find dinosaurs today .Just go to a church
ilikezappa 2 months ago
why would God tell Noah to cause extinction?
animaljp3 2 months ago
Do "just big lizards" walk with straight legs and look as much as birds as reptiles and have feathers?
animaljp3 2 months ago
Even if dinosaurs were still alive, how would this be going against evolution? Also, radioactive dating down by thousands of scientists, you need evidence they are wrong. In Genisis, it says 7 day creation, but when a lot of metiphores are in Bible, why should this not be? It could be millions of years and just 7 important times. Also, God wants people to believe in him, not give them science. It is hard enough to convince someone of God, billions of years would be harder back then.
animaljp3 2 months ago
Oh my god -- crazy fucking creationist.
The Bible is not a real account of the creation of the Earth.
These morons think that there is a literal-written account of Earth's creation. Idiot.
Nemesis0300 4 months ago
Did nobody notice that that guy said "the world was 70% water and mostly land? o.0 ?????
thellama1997 4 months ago
Thank God for this man, I wont be laughed at anymore. Deep down I always knew someone made this universe.
swandike 7 months ago
Not only is evolutionism founded upon fairly tales and ridiculous conjectures (like primordial soup and fish turning into frogs) and creationism is based on actual physical evidence (which happens to support what the Bible says), but most creationist lecturers have amusing personality and humor, like Hovind. Contrast this with the drab, serious, and anal lectures and personalities of evolutionists like Dawkins who appears to always suffer from constipation.
BachScholar 7 months ago
@BachScholar "... drab, serious, and anal lectures and personalities of evolutionists like Dawkins who appears to always suffer from constipation."-BachScholar
>A fine observation. Dawkins always constipated for having to keep track of all the jesuit lies held up to support a bogus theory of a fairy tale "pre"-historic world. A mythical world promoted in modern science & biology textbooks which have 'evolved' into nothing more than story books for adults.
SpencerBenedict2nd 5 months ago
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BachScholar 7 months ago
This is really interesting, and I absolutely believe man and dinosaurs have lived together, and they are still doing it, without a doubt!
TurokSwe 9 months ago
His logic is so full of holes, it's starting to resemble swiss cheese.
thellama1997 9 months ago
@thellama1997 Setting thellama1997 Str8
"... swiss cheese."-thellama1997
>No, that' your brain, having been pierced by a plethora of jesuit created lies of false-science theory hoax deceptions and promoted by the knoghts of malta controlled mass media "programming" system network.
Truth sounds strange when we have been indoctrinated with fictions our entire lives.
Hope this helps. peace
SpencerBenedict2nd 5 months ago
Kent Hovind is a piece of shit.
ray4ix 10 months ago
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"Kent Hovind is a piece of shit."-ray4ix
>And why would you claim that? Because he provides people universal truths and truth makes you feel uncomfortable?
Truth sounds strange when we have been indoctrinated with fictions our entire lives.
Hope this helps. peace
SpencerBenedict2nd 5 months ago
I don't believe you made me lose 20sec of my life with this BS!
balau7 10 months ago
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"... made me lose 20sec of my life with this BS!"-balau7
>Maybe the only 20 seconds of your life, that on this matter, you ever heard any truth.
Truth sounds strange when we have been indoctrinated with fictions since the day we were born. Jesuit controlled Academia and a Knights of Malta controlled mass media "programming" network have brainwashed millions into a world of false realities.
Hope this helps. peace
SpencerBenedict2nd 5 months ago
Mr. Kent Hovind discusses the possibility of dinosaurs still alive today !
And he thinks it proves something but we don't know what. It sure wouldn't prove evolution wrong.
Canopy of water overhead?!? I think he just made that up, no evidence, just like the flood.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Setting gregrutz Str8:
"Canopy of water overhead?!? I think he just made that up, no evidence, just like the flood."-gregrutz
>Mr. Hovind didn't make up cloud banks. God did. There is more observable geological physical proof and evidence of a global flood scattered all across Gods green (and blue) earth that one could shake a stick at.
Take off your blinders and open your eyes, silly.
Hope this helps. peace
SpencerBenedict2nd 5 months ago
@SpencerBenedict2nd Floods don't make distinct layers of different kinds of rocks in random order, which is what we find in nature. Where did 29000 feet of water go? What is the name of the flood mud layer with all the dead bodies in it?
gregrutz 5 months ago
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@gregrutz Setting gregrutz Str8
"Floods don't make distinct layers of different kinds of rocks..."-gregrutz
>Floods creating distinct layers of strata is EXACTLY what floods do - It's called Hydrological Sorting!
Not you, but EVERYBODY ELSE READING THIS can Google Image Search either, "Hydrologic Sorting" or "Hydrological Sorting" to see exactly how the historic 2348 B.C. deluge created all the strata layers found exposed across the entire globe.
"29,000 ft of water"-gregrutz
>Erroneous
SpencerBenedict2nd 5 months ago
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Hovind's doctorate was in "Christian Education" from the Patriot Bible University which is not accredited by any recognized accreditation agency. He has no scientific qualifications. His dissertation has no title, no TOC, outlines 16 chapters but contains only 4, has no bibliography, and is full of errors such as "geological epic" for "geological epoch", and "centrifical force" for "centrifugal force". It contains no original research, the basis on which a PhD is supposed to be awarded.
CarajilloDulce 1 year ago
LMFAO, religious people look weird.. i love when someone who is very religious is presented scientific proof of something their reply is something simple like "how do you know", or "in genises 666 god said blah blah blah blah blah"... religion itself is the same as personal delusion, if something is drilled in to your mind enough, you will eventually believe it.
RockLIFE001 1 year ago
Dinosaurs don't fit into the bible, they prove it wrong.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Oh gregrutz , you have just been DECEIVED by them science fellahs. Everyone knows how stoopid they are. Our pastor told me , and he says I am going to heaven ooooweeee. He said I caint take my money with me tho , and he would look after it real personal.
ilikezappa 1 year ago
Lol this vid is badshit crazy.
o0somic0o 1 year ago
Is there a part three to this?
LSUjdm 1 year ago
variation within a type of animal is evolution... this guy is a dipshit.
crazychimp321 1 year ago
Ah , a lecture from a convicted fraudster who got his PhD from a cracker.
Step right up folks ! This here bottle of magic snake oil will grow yer hair back , get you a job and stop your wife fooling around . What a twat .
When does he get out of jail ?
ilikezappa 1 year ago
@ilikezappa haha i read he got multiple life sentences but u know how that goes.. I think he really has to serve 10 years if he's nice or something
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA Have you seen his "Phd " dissertation ? It starts , "Hello" .....
I kid you not .
You can see the mono eyebrowed audience , baccy juice dripping onto their "I love tractors" T shirt . "Yup , seems real plausible Myrtle"....
ilikezappa 1 year ago
the earth grew...
redbulborb 1 year ago
Why does he think that dinosaurs living today would prove evolution wrong?
We still have sharks and no one says a thing.
We still have dinosaurs with feathers and no one says a thing.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Dinosaurs alive today would prove they haven't evolved (like that deep sea fish they found in the 1930s). Bacteria are still bacteria; not a cross between them and something else. Fish are still fish (unless given lungs as well as gills).
All that's happened is species have varied according to gene shuffling and natural selection. The ones most suited to the environment survived to reproduce, while those like the dodo didn't.
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 Thanks for proving my point. Yes they found the lobe finned fish and were wrong about it going extinct.
It does not prove evolution wrong. Sharks are 'older' than dinosaurs, have not 'evolved' much, and no one says a thing. Because it fits with evolution theory.
And yes species changed according to gene shuffling and natural selection. The ones most suited to the environment survived to reproduce, while those like the dodo didn't.
Yes, you have a good understanding of evolution
gregrutz 1 year ago
this guy is fucking retarded, all of his facts are messed up...he's no funny...he is just not smart, i would love to know what school he went to to lern about dinosaurs and the life span of the avrage human...900 years.. thats a joke the oldest was noah and he lasted around 200 years.
deathkricket123 1 year ago
@deathkricket123 He'a alot smarter than most evolutionists I've heard. All he's doing is using simple reasoning.
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 ''using simple reasoning'' But he has no evidence, he only makes up stories to match bible stories.
gregrutz 1 year ago
What about the 600 Neanderthal fossils, those other humans.
Only the big dinosaurs died off 65 million years ago, the ones with feathers are doing fine.
Where did 29,000 feet of water go?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz god used a straw ofcourse, plz use common sense (jk)
gix500 1 year ago
@gregrutz The seismic activity caused the ocean floors to drop. What we have today in the world's oceans is Noah's floodwater.
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 You have no evidence that the sea floors changed 4400 years ago.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Ah gregrutz. How are you doing. Still an evolutionist I see :)
I think you'll find plenty of evidence from things like 7 mile deep ocean trenches in the Pacific. They were sucked out from the pressure loss of what was lost spewing out of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 The Mid-Atlantic Ridge was used to prove Plate Tectonics. You should study it. The subduction zones cause trenches.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Supposedly. Trouble is, rock couldn't stand the pressure of having other rock go under it. The whole area would break up in an untidy mess.
(I also hear of an unconfirmed report the volcanoes for this *theoretical* activity are on the wrong side of the Ring of Fire ridges in the Pacific.)
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 Wow, an expert on Biology and now an expert on Geology too.
Have you ever read a science book?
I don't listen to ''unconfirmed reports', hydro-sorting or hydroplate stories that have no evidence to support them.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz I'm not an expert so don't be facecious. I'm just an ordinary common sense thinking guy. You might not listen to unconfirmed reports but someone might check them out and learn something.
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 The point is, even is Kent found a living T-Rex it would not prove evolution wrong. We have living sharks and no one says a thing.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Yes that's right! We have living 'dinosaurs' and various species thought extinct that haven't evolved..and no one in the orthodox scientific community questions it at all lol
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 We have living dinosaurs. They are usually standing in a pulpit
ilikezappa 1 year ago
@ilikezappa not this one! he's alive :)
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 His "Science" is certainly primordial slime . I wouldn`t trust anyone with that haircut either . It says " salesman" from 100 yards away
ilikezappa 1 year ago
@ilikezappa ya he and his wife are in jail now for hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax fraud.. Actually I think his wife avoided it but he's definetely serving time..
HILARIOUS!!!!!! LOLOLOL
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 Common sense says heavy things fall faster than light things.
Wrong. Common sense says time is the same on the moon, wrong again.
Common sense might be wrong
gregrutz 1 year ago
I guess Noah failed cause dinosaurs didnt make it did they? lol
pgtv69 1 year ago
@pgtv69 Most of them were hunted the extinction over the millennia or died because they couldn't adapt to the new conditions.
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 99% of all species that ever lived on the earth are extinct, that is how evolution works.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Some of the species were probably. But the crocodile hasn't changed in millions of years has it-like plenty of other animals.
Pulsar205 1 year ago
@Pulsar205 Yes, crocodiles have not changed. Did someone say they should? Evolution doesn't.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Evolution should change everything. Are you saying they haven't had one mutation in all that time lol
Pulsar205 1 year ago
lol
simonddavies 1 year ago
google Doe's Account.
techbesst 1 year ago
No human being has seen a dinosaur fossils younger the 65 million years old.
gregrutz 1 year ago
There is a great chance they r still alive. Think bout it. The entire earth was not covered with the flood. So the flyers and water based can still survive. Even then animals can adapt to their surroundings. I believe only a portion of the earth was flooded not the whole thing.
y2joct7 1 year ago
@y2joct7 The bible clearly says the ENTIRE earth was flooded. If it was a local flood then why didn't God just tell noah to move instead of building an ark? I'm not sure why you believe it was only a local flood but I would be happy to talk to you about it. Geological evidence confirms it was a world wide flood.
micah1116 1 year ago
@micah1116 I'll discuss this but in a civilized manner please no pointless arguing or name calling. I feel my local flood b/c Im a christian but the bible was written by man. God inspired them but what if along the way they saw something they didnt like and choose to not put it in the bible.
y2joct7 1 year ago
@y2joct7 Sure, I never intended to do any name calling. I have nothing personal against you at all. The bible clearly teaches the flood was world wide in several versed throughout the bible. Also Noah and his family were the only family that was not genetically corrupted by the Nephilim so it had to be a world wide flood, that's the entire reason was chosen. He was perfect in his generations as the bible says, that's what it means by that statement.
micah1116 1 year ago
@micah1116 You forgot to tell the Chinese, they didn't all die in a global flood.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Anyone who says that Dinosaurs are lizards is an idiot.
HardforJesus 1 year ago
15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
"Eat grass like an ox?" Sauropod dinosaurs, such as Brachiosaurus were totally incapable of eating grass like an ox. They feed on vegetation by ripping it off with their teeth and swallowing it, which was then "chewed" by having gastroliths to aid in digestion) grind up the vegetation through peristalic movement. This was a method totally unlike the rumination of oxen.
TheANTONIUSCORNELIUS 1 year ago
Also, grass plants appeared during the late Cretaceous, long after most of the Sauropods had died out.
TheANTONIUSCORNELIUS 1 year ago
16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly.
"Navel" a physical structure where an umbilical cord would have been attached when he was in his mother's uterus. Dinosaurs, as egg-laying animals, did not have umbilical cords, and therefore did not have navels.
TheANTONIUSCORNELIUS 1 year ago
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
It does Not say that his tail is the size of a cedar but rather moveth like a cedar. Moreover, the "tail" is a euphemism for male genitalia. Support for this is based on the meaning of the Hebrew word "move" which means "extend" and on the second part of verse 17 describing the sinew around its "stones" (the Vulgate uses the word "testiculorum")
TheANTONIUSCORNELIUS 1 year ago
Cicero confirms that ancients used to refer to the penis as the "tail". This interpretation is lent further credence by the fact that discussion of this organ is followed by a description of the beast's "stones" which the Targums equate with the testicles.
TheANTONIUSCORNELIUS 1 year ago
The comparison of the "tail" with a tree was metaphorical and that it was intended to convey the impressive dimensions of this appendage. In accordance with these interpretations, this passage is rendered by translator Stephen Mitchell to read, "Behold now the Beast" His penis stiffens like a pine; his testicles bulge with vigor."
TheANTONIUSCORNELIUS 1 year ago
21 He lieth under the lotus-trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
The NASB renders the passage as: "Under the lotus plants he lies down, the willow (reeds) of the brook surround him." As Greg Neyman notes, "it is difficult to imagine the Argentinosaurus, (a large Sauropod) at 100 feet long, and height of 40 feet when standing (sitting , probably 20 feet tall), resting under the short limbs of a lotus plant, nor would he be able to take cover in reeds only a few feet tall.
TheANTONIUSCORNELIUS 1 year ago
Wonder how ol' Kent's doing in prison? Poor, dumb bastard.
DarwinsFriend 1 year ago
Dinosaurs rules the earth for 165 million years,
How DOES that fit in the bible.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Talk about an idiot....no, we still have apricots today, go to your grocery still moron. I would be shot, killed, or thrown in prison by the government on some bogus tax-evasion charge like Dr.Kent Hovind. Look up his video cure for cancer. I have it on my channel. The Hunza tribe which I was talking about NEVER got cancer. 1960 wasn't a long time ago dumb ass. B17 has cyanide which is activated by cancer cells, and the cyanide selectively destroys the cancer cells. The hospitals cover this up.
ProConstitutioner 2 years ago
I'm not sure how you missed that sarcasm, I piled it as high as I knew how.
Claims like vitamin therapies being cures for cancer is some of the most dishonest and harmful lies I have ever come across. Various independent studies have shown it to be ineffective and toxic. Correlations do not mean facts... this is why studies are done. Remember when people thought sharks couldn't get cancer so they ate shark parts. Turns out to be false like almost all unscientifically based claims.
wowsdrawkcab 2 years ago
Get your head out of your ass. The hospitals make billions of their medications, and treatments. Do you think they would risk all that for a 30 cent fruit?? I bet you didn't even know there was a cure for aids, but there is, and I'll give you the patent # , and proof. There's a lot that you don't know, because you believe whatever you're told by the government, and the school system. You don't think for yourself. MY favorite Bible verse,"speak not into the ear of a fool, for they despise wisdom"
ProConstitutioner 2 years ago
Why don't you make a website indicating every medical treatment that medicine has covered up and sell them to make money... wait that has been done already and none of them work.
But then again I suppose your internet research is far more accurate then real schooling.
wowsdrawkcab 2 years ago
Because I'm only 18 you dumb ass. I don't have the resources for that shit, and no, it hasn't been done, although there might be a few websites out there already doing it, so stfu
ProConstitutioner 2 years ago
@ProConstitutioner Give me the patent and proof for the cure for AIDS that is legit and I will forget evolution and believe in creation.
classicrockfan1313 2 years ago
This guy is full of crap. I am a strong Christian but I even know that you don't take all of the bible literally. I base my faith on my experience with God.
classicrockfan1313 2 years ago
Dr. Kent Hovind is a brilliant man, and you pale in comparison compared to him. I think his credentials exceed yours by far. This guy is in prison for doing what he does, and for laws, and taxes that don't exist in order to shut him up. I've researched his case, and he's wrongfully imprisoned. You're blinded, and have scales on your eye lids.
ProConstitutioner 2 years ago
@ProConstitutioner Look at the creation story compared to evolution. In the beginning God said let there be light! The big bang. Which animals came first? Ocean dwellers. Which came first in evolution? Ocean dwellers! I personally believe that God caused evolution, because how can nothing make something?
classicrockfan1313 2 years ago
I'm speechless right now... Yeah an ice barrier surrounding the earth is what made people live 900 years waaaay back in the day. Read a modern genetics text. Telomeres at the ends of each chromosome are shortened each time the genome is copied. This stupidity has NO effect on aging at this scale.
wowsdrawkcab 2 years ago
Ancient civilization all over the world speak of what's known as the "golden age" when people lived to be almost a thousand years old. Even history backs up these claims. Before the flood there was 98% more oxygen in our air(something like that ), and different conditions. Did you know a remote tribe was found in the middle eastern countries in 1960, and their life span was 160 years, they lived off of apricot seeds which has a vitamin known as B17 which kills cancer cells, and spans your life.
ProConstitutioner 2 years ago
Even though what you say is complete trash... If this miracle vitamin is around today (apricots aren't extinct yet right) then why don't you make millions of dollars and cure cancer worldwide? Why was there less oxygen after the flood?
wowsdrawkcab 2 years ago
God made every single animal in 6 days he did it in his own image and for all the people who believe in evolution is wrong how could of every single living thing come from a rock and where did the rock come from? And the big boom theroy that is not true either how could there be a big boom out of nowhere there is only one true God and that is Jesus Christ
sk8erkid795 2 years ago
God is a bunch of shit made up to trick dumb, stupid people like yourself, I don't have a problem with people thinking there is a magical place where you go when you die, but it pisses me off when people like you think that they are smarter than everyone else just because they believe in a magical fucken man who shits wine out his arse. Evolution is pretty much the only possible way for us to be here. And if you don't like it then you can piss off!
Paddles1993 2 years ago
you talk like a religious fanatic even if yet i do believe in jesus, stop talking about things you dont know and even more stop being angry like that if you were actually a "dumb" believer you wouldnt rant like an idiot and would talk like a civilized man
roflzi 2 years ago
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0987654321284 2 years ago
Evolution is real like Obama is white. You're an idiot.
ProConstitutioner 2 years ago
Mountains rise and fall. Mountians are formed either by old unactive valcanoes or two land masses either coastal or underground falts hitting each other. India hit Asia which formed mt. Everest those where two coastal land masses. And that is why there are shell there. Their are many cities at lye under water there was one found off of the island of japan. Flood happen all the time.
PJS102187 2 years ago
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windows271 2 years ago
I beleive in god and all his wonders. But the idea that evolution is not the way we were made is crazy. When the bible stated that we were made in his image it was meant as his soul. Adam and Eve is a story. The noahs flood happened in a small part of the world. Dinosaurs are not over grown lizards. The idea that time was understood how we understand it today is stupid 100 years for Noah chould of been something like 17 years for use cause we see time differently.
PJS102187 2 years ago
and I spose closed clam shells on the top of mount everast aren't real either
kkp5200 2 years ago
need to dig a little deeper and use critical thinking, my friend....
KeyboardPacifist 2 years ago
@PJS102187
god is a faggot
AssHoleThunder 2 years ago
Tell that to his face when he judges you after you die. I dare you.
ProConstitutioner 2 years ago
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TheAmazingRandall 2 years ago
this guy is in prison for FRAUD for christ sake.
victorsossa 2 years ago 7
ok soo what kind of dinos did he he bring a surapod or a meat eater or was it both ??? i was just wonderin ??? hmmmm
musicman3005 2 years ago
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Sureno209 2 years ago
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WARNING: This book is a work of fiction. Do not take it literaly.
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BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
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BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
@BoyintheMachine Depends whose reading it. Some idiot could watch Fight Club and blow up and go out looking for punchups lol
Pulsar205 1 year ago
warning sticker for Origin of Species....this is a book of guesses and might-have-beens which passes as a feeble explanation of origins and is largely agreed to be invalid by the contemporary scientific community.
karnoch 2 years ago
Actually Darwin was wrong on some things and he had no clue about DNA, however, he did a wonderful job.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
Nor can you prove without a doubt that came from lesser life forms either... And I will live forever, not in this form, but when Christ returns I will receive that eternal life. So where does man come from, as far as evolution is concerned????
rwmaynard219 2 years ago
Humans are primates and were classified as primates by Christian scientists in the 1700's. Technically we are Apes.
Belief does not trump Evidence. You are an ape. You can believe otherwise but that still doesnt mean that you are not an ape.
Science has the fossils....We Win! LOL
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 3
fossils prove there was a flood. they don't prove evolution. humans are more closely related to frogs than they are to apes, based on chromosome counts. since there is no evidence, belief is all we have. some choose to believe in evolution because they don't want to be accountable to a creator. so they would rather believe they are advanced apes, which is frankly, idiotic. believing in an invisible force in the sky or wherever makes more sense, especially since we already know energy is sentient
karnoch 2 years ago
No, fossils do not prove a flood. There is a clip on YouTube about debunking Noah's flood. You need to watch it. It explains why fossils DISPROVE Noah's flood.
Science doesn't use chromozonal counts. By that logic a grain of rice is more advanced than humans, because they contain far more genes than we do.
You are an ape. Another word for Ape is Primate. Humans were classified as Primates back in the 1700's by Christian Scientists, Scientists who actually were Creationists back then.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
@BoyintheMachine Your so full of it. I'm sure the video your talking about is made by a guy named Potholder54. Am I correct? He knows nothing of geology. I've got a video in my favorites regarding this topic. The flood did cause the geologic column to form. The entire geologic column is sedimentary rock, sedimentary rock only forms under MOVING WATER, and there's over a 1/2 mile of it covering the entire planet.
micah1116 1 year ago
@micah1116
It's not just one video, there are many, many videos debunking Noah's flood. That myth is one of the most retarded story in the bible. Who cleaned up all the poop? Where did they keep all the food? How did they stop animals from eating each other? It's ridiculous. It's a myth. There is absolutely no evidence supporting the flood myth.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine You deny the flood for emotional reasons, not scientific. Your question is like asking who cleans up all the poop at the zoo? I think they were smart enough to know how to take care of the animals. And your missing the whole point, if your willing to admit God intervened and helped Noah through this major event, anything is possible. And we are talking about the flood, not the actual ark.
micah1116 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine I've seen it and I even said who made it. Potholder54 is the person your talking about. This entire planet is covered in over 1/2 mile of sedimentary rock that is stacked ontop of each other like a pancake. Sedimentary rock only forms under moving water, and this rock holds trillions of fossils, mainly marine organisms. It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to figure out why.
micah1116 1 year ago
@micah1116
Sedimentary rocks are also made by wind. Check out Rhymemaiden1's videos. The flood myth does not explain what we actually see in nature.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine "Sedimentary rocks are also made by wind. "
I was hoping you would say that. Wind can produce sediment but not make layers of solid rock. And PLEASE explain to me how wind can cause marine organisms to be buried in solid rock? Are you that brainwashed? I mean how can you believe wind buried fish,algae,whales, etc etc in solid rock? Just admit the obvious, there was a world wide flood.
micah1116 1 year ago
@micah1116
(facepalm) I won't be continuing this conversation with you.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine They had to be in water when they were buried, and ofcourse they would tend to be on the bottom. There's a reason why algae tends to be on the bottom layers, birds tend to be on top along with humans. I'm sure your smart enough to figure out why. It's not too hard to figure out why.
micah1116 1 year ago
gregrutz 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine There have been several emperical experiments proving that the flood did indeed happen. Type in geology for evolutionists in the youtube search engine. Watch parts 1 and two. This is a small percentage of the information. How do you explain giant clams and sea shells and fish fossils on every mountain in the world, including everest? The bible tells us the mountain arose during the flood, this is confirmed by emperical evidence.
micah1116 1 year ago
let's see what seems more idiotic: that we evolved from common ancestor, or that Fred The Benevolent Cosmic Muffin snapped his finger and created everything ummm. And the ark story is so ridiculous it's embarrassing. It's childish.
victorsossa 2 years ago 2
yeah that life spontaneously organized itself and branched out. it's like putting a box of car parts in your garage and expecting to come back in a million years and drive it away...only all those parts were designed, by intelligence. and if the ark is so silly, why have they found a giant boat in turkey?
karnoch 2 years ago
the ark is silly, and so is your example. The way you describe it means that a) you didn't understand a single thing about it or b) you're know it's wrong but you lie. Either way, you are ridiculous. You think noah lived 900 years? And put all species on that boat? Including 800 million species of insects alone? And then spread them across the continents by himself? Marsupials in Australia, etc? Are you for fuckin real
victorsossa 2 years ago 2
and keep believing that you saw pterodactyls flying in the moonlight, my enchanted little fool; after all, what's not to believe, once you're convinced some 2000 year old dead guy who rose from the dead is in love with you.
victorsossa 2 years ago 2
did you forget the continents were once joined? mainstream geologists agree on this.
now get back to the playground with your name-calling sub-juvenile little self before i slap you like the little bitch you are.
karnoch 2 years ago
yes!! of course, the continents were joined, that's it, that explains how the 20 million species spread across the proper continents. plus noah had 150 years to do it, since he lived to 900. and i'm juvenile?? now stop being so aggressive, or your space daddy boogyman might come down from the sky and punish you
victorsossa 2 years ago 2
No, silly boy. they didn't find a boat in turkey. After 7 decades or "ark sightings" ,they found a one meter long chunk of petrified wood. Keep looking.
victorsossa 2 years ago 2
So is Jesus coming back on a UFO? Will he wear a spacesuit? -Because nobody can ascened into outer-space without a spacesuit and live.
Wait a minute, that's right!
The passage about Jesus ascending into Heaven is proven to have been added at a later date, thus is a forgery. Guess your book isn't as pefect as you believe! LOL
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
Jesus is the Son Of God...That should answer your question about a space suit. Secondly, the Book of Psalms, which was written 1000 years before Christ prophetically spoke of His ascension (Psalms 68:18 -Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.) Your claims are false. Try to do better than that. That is easily refutable :)
rwmaynard219 2 years ago
Actually, as i wrote below, the passages about Jesus ascending into Heaven are forgeries of a later date as they do not appear in the oldest bible, the Codex Sinaiticus.
However, you provide the standard reply of "Magic" as an explanation.
Your reference of Psalms is false and quite laughable. You silly Christians turn every single Old Testament passage into a prophecy of Jesus. Hilarious!
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
you don't know He ascended into outer space. go ahead, fool. mock God and the bible all you like. "do not be deceived, a man reaps what he sows" doesn't look good for you, buddy.
karnoch 2 years ago
Jesus' acension into Heaven was added at a later date. In the oldest bible, The Codex Sinaiticus, the account of Jesus' ascension into heaven is not there. It's not missing as the text is complete. This means that somewhere along the way somebody added it to the bible. Same thing with the story about Jesus and the whore (Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...)
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
" hi, i'm a massive massive tool "
BIueRex 2 years ago
shut your pie hole before they have to wire your jaw shut.
karnoch 2 years ago
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BIueRex 2 years ago
wow. if you're anything over 7 years old, you need fuckin therapy.
victorsossa 2 years ago
how about i punch you in the head until you bleed from the ears? how now, boy? get up off your knees when i speak to you! bitch
karnoch 2 years ago
Karnoch, falling back to futile threats and bashings only tells everyone that you can't counter the questions and pointers presented to you.
It's great to be brave behind the screen again, but your behaviour is not very bright, and also not christian-like.
What was the thing that made you so angry, hmm?
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
lol. don't be afraid, i'm sure all these mouthy twats are real talkers from the safety of a keyboard. it would really light up my day to have a chat with someone like bluerex or victorsossa in person. chances are, i wouldn't actually punch them cuz i'm not really mean. they are just rude ignorant people and deserve to be treated as such. cheers.
karnoch 2 years ago
You are the ignorant one, Karnoch.
-your faith has put you in a situation and position where you must defend utterly false claims and beliefs against common sense and scinetific information.
Why don't you take a good, hard look on the debate here, and think.
-Thinking is not forbidden in your religion, though it might cause you to question some of the thesis in it.
You have fallen back to threats of violence, numerous times.
-This is serious, by any standards.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
listen up. what do you know about my religion? or my faith? exactly jack shit, that's what. as far as how i talk to people, that is my choice. these pricks insult, demean, and think they are somehow in possession of superior knowledge, and i'm just plain tired of it. so it's time to bust some heads, because logic doesn't work on evolutionary dogma. evolution is possibly the most successful lie ever sold, and i find that amazing when otherwise intelligent people buy such bullshit.
karnoch 2 years ago
"What do you know about my religion?"
-Plenty, I used to work in confirmation camps. Although I taught kids trusted to my supervision, to use their common sense. I have no faith in this jahve, but the pay was good for a youngster.
"Or my faith?"
-If your faith is christianity, plenty.
You retreat to threats of violence when you realize that you cannot counter rational pointers with religious dogmas.
Logic, reason and information are threats to blind faith.
-You deny them, and threat us.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
are you kidding Karnoch? you ARE a violent person. You wouldn't actually punch anyone, because you're too afraid you'd end up in jail. But you are a frustrated violent little man. "shut your pie hole"? "wire your jaw shut"? How about i punch you bitch"? "before i slap you"? wow...you praise jesus with that mouth?
victorsossa 2 years ago
ha! jail! not where i come from, son. you're a jackass who thinks he can come here and insult people, mock people who criticize evolution, and they will just "turn the other cheek". well, fucker, you messed with the wrong bible-thumping jesus freak, didn't you? now take your superior attitude and dismal ignorance away from me before i crawl through the internet and pop out of your computer like the Matrix. cuz then i really will beat your ass! run boy! get on out! hahahaha
karnoch 2 years ago
You are the one who has insulted us, with your arrogant threats.
-Fact to the matter is, we have not.
What does this tell us about your faith of "tolerance", "peace" and "love".
You say, "Shut up or I'll hurt you", but you have zero possibilites to do so.
We do have superior attidude in the terms that we wish you no harm.
-You have no idea, who I am, what is my physical appearance and weather I am capable of defending myself against an aggressor.
-The level of your words is low.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
ever heard of bipolar disorder, karnoch?
victorsossa 2 years ago
"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
- Scott D. Weitzenhoffer
Karnoch: I simply cannot interact with you further on this topic until you gain an education of the subject of which you are opposed to. You need to be knowledgable of that which you claim to disprove. You are too ignorant to waste time replying back and forth.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
Look, i have repeatedly proved you wrong historically, factually, and logically. i'm sorry if that makes you unhappy, but the reality remains, you're wrong. get used to it. my understanding of science, history, and religion is obviously far greater than yours, and now that you've been trumped your best response is to pronounce me ignorant and go off to pout. clearly i am dealing with a childish mind here. good day.
karnoch 2 years ago
The only thing you have repeatedly shown is that you are ignorant.
I would really like to debate you on this topic but so far it's just me proving you wrong and proving you to be ignorant of the subject you oppose.
In order for you to stand any chance at disproving Evolution then you must be educated on the subject. "Because I say so" doesn't cut it.
Your sacred book is mythology. Get over it.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
you're the scholar who made the "scientific" announcement that the Dead Sea Scrolls aren't part of the Bible. that makes you look like a doofus.
karnoch 2 years ago
@karnoch
Here we go again LOL....
Karnoch, please quit replying to me with your ignorant comments.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
karnoch: You Creationists need to organize better. You keep bringing up the same things over and over, even though they have been debunked countless times before. You probably think you are smart for saying the "thermodynamics" thing, but you failed to realize you didn't understand the second law of thermodynamics to begin with. You must likely are just repeating the crap you have been told by your religious leaders.
Creationism is a joke, The bible is mythology, get over it.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
and you, i don't know if you think you're smart or not, but i assure you that you aren't very. you say debunked, i say by whom? you are just repeating whatever crap you learned in high school biology and maybe college if you made it that far. one doesn't need the bible to scientifically demonstrate that evolution is not science. that is your first mistake. the second is thinking you're smarter than me....cheers!
karnoch 2 years ago
Evolution is Science.
Please feel free to continue to believe what you want. You will die. Those who feel as you do will die too. Eventually more and more people will be properly edcuated and eventually your institionalized superstition will go extinct.
It has nothing to do with being "smarter" than you. It deals with education. If you base your beliefs on an unproven assumption, then I feel sorry for you. Science doesnt' work that way.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
"If you base your beliefs on an unproven assumption"... which is exactly what YOU have done. that isn't science, chuck.
karnoch 2 years ago
karnoch you claim Evolution isn't science yet you are ignorant of Evolution and Science in general. You don't feel it is necessary to even educate yourself on a topic before attempting to criticize it.
Believerss are all the same. What's important to them is belief. Reality, evidence, and proof mean nothing. All that is important is that they believe. For the religious person, when reality contradicts a cherished belief then reality is wrong....because belief is all that's important.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago 2
i know a good deal more about science than you do. your lack of understanding even the basics is deplorable. and i doubt you are capable of giving a very coherent dissertation on evolution either. funny thing is, get a number of evolutionary scientists in a room, and the number of versions to the evolution science will directly correspond to the number of scientists, as they cannot even agree amongst themselves what exactly the theory is. you fail, again.
karnoch 2 years ago
What's the point of your madness? Evolution is Science and is backed by Evidence. Creationism is religion and is backed by Faith (nothing).
Do you serioulsy think your inane attempt of an attack on Evolution somehow proves your silly superstition to be correct? Hint: It does not.
Even if Evolution was proven wrong tomorrow, this doesn't mean that Creationism wins by default.
Fairty tales are for entertaiment. The Bible should come w/ a warning sticker, "Do not take literaly".
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
attacking evolution is like arguing with a bunch of blind people over whether the sun exists. evolution is not science. it is ignorance with big words so fools like you can parade around your "knowledge". evolution has been proved wrong. now is your big chance! come up with a new explanation! write it down! that's all it takes, after all. people will gladly embrace whatever story you make up as long as it provides an alternative to the Truth.
karnoch 2 years ago
Evolution has not been proved wrong, nor is the a controversy over evolution. The only controversy exists in the little m