China imposes ban on plastic bags - 1 Jun 08

[juicyadvct]

My chinese is by no means perfect but when I listen to the simultaneous translation it is not very accurate. They leave out the first girl's comment about "while it is inconvenient, i think it's worth it to save the environment." Then the next lady is actually saying something about practicalities of paying for a bag.

[LeRareMovies]

Couldn't they just make biodegradable plastic bags?

[lucyinthesky16]

haha these comments crack me up. none of them are about plastic bags.

people will take any chance they can to argue.

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

If Tibet, you may have pictures of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Bush, Tojo. It's okay. But if you have one picture of the Dalai Lama, you will be tortured by the Chinese government. Does this make sense?

The People's Liberation Army is the biggest slaver and seller of organs, even though selling human organs recently became illegal in China.

Political and religious prisoners are executed same as murderers. Their organs are used without individual or family permission. Signatures are all faked.

[Lidiya17]

it's funny, everytime china do something good, the westerners always have to put a shadow over it. note how they ended the whole thing with the jobless factory workers? typical propaganda shit.

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

It is good that China is "going green" here and there. But there is still that yellow toxic sand landing on Japan. The rice crop is down 10%. And there are still Chinese bottles landing on the beaches of Japan and Korea. China is polluting Korea and raping our women or sending them to North Korea to be killed.

[peipeiaiguo]

shame on you...just kill your self...you know nothing....you konw, i laugh at you when i saw your words....^_^

[mayrami212]

good news at last. they should be ban all over the world not only in china.

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

It is time for the USA and UK to catch up with China and Japan. In Japan we sort all our trash carefully.

[Denham0303]

shit i need plastic bags i bathe in that shit. word up i use them for condoms too...im broke and i dont NEED no kids livin under my roof, they only cause problems

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

What about abstinence?

[djviranga]

im not happy about the tibet issue but yes atleast china is doing something about the environment thats a lot more then wut the usa is doing

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

I am concerned about North Korean women who are starving in North Korea. When they escape to China, they are considered economic refugees with zero status. They are not considered political refugees. But this is unfair, because when they are returned to North Korea by the Chinese government, they are often killed.

Ordinary Chinese criminals know they can get money for turning these women into the authorities, so they so they turn them into forced prostitutes against their wills, extorting money

[Lidiya17]

and this have to do with china's enviromental awareness how?....

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

It is all about respecting human life. If you respect human life, you will respect the environment too. Otherwise, you just sell our women as slaves and rape them or get a reward from the government and send them home to North Korea to be executed.

[Lidiya17]

err.... slavery is not allowed in china. i'm not even sure if what you say is true. but even if it is, bad, outrageous things happen ALL ACROSS the world, and it should not represent the majority of a nation. so please shut the fuck up before i start digging up dirt on your beloved korea.

[Lidiya17]

oh, by the way. it seem to be a bit rich for you to say "respecting human life(s)" (you forgot the "s", so i guess it really translate to just respecting you) when you are spreading so much racism and hate against the chinese people on the internet. i certainly didn't rape your girlfriend.

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

I hope you get to the chapter on collective nouns in English class, because "human life" applies to all human beings.

You say slavery is not allowed in China. Nevertheless, the government must inspect 3600 factories for child slavery. Children are bought and sold as cabbages. Something can be illegal but still common.

If a Chinese treats a North Korean woman as a sex slave, what happens when she contacts the police? Deportation to North Korea and execution. WORSE than slavery.

[Lidiya17]

"inspect 3600 factories for child slavery." err, again no. it's called child labour in sweatshops; they have the option to leave, its just that the kids need the money. and most of these shops are owned by large companies in america like adidas and puma. this is different from slavery, go check your trusty dictionary (which ever outdated one it may be). the selling children is illegal but common? i hope you have evidence to back up your wild accusations other than online gossips.

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

So you "buy and sell children like cabbages" but once they are sold they can leave whenever they want? It's fantasy.

[Lidiya17]

perhaps human trafficking is not your best subject. it's an issue ALL ACROSS THE FUCKING WORLD. where there's horny men there will always be sex slaves. stop saying as if north korean women are the only ones getting fucked in the ass and other weird places! and according to you, she ran form her OWN country, then why is china obligated to look after her ass? and no, death is not worse than slavery. i will personally kill myself than become a man's sex toy.

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

"i will personally kill myself than become a man's sex toy."

You never know until you are in that situation.

These refugees are Korean. China has choice. (1) China can keep them as political refugees. (2) China can return them to South Korea. (3) China can return them to North Korea for execution.

Why does China pick the worst choice?

China says they are economic refugees. Maybe they left North Korea for economic reasons, but if they face execution, they become political.

[Lidiya17]

let's see... like if an airplane is going to crash we say, "OMG! Human lifeS are at danger!" at least, that's how i see it.

[Lidiya17]

Since only your "friends" can sent you messages (wonder why) i might as well reply to you this way. (btw, this is about the shit you posted on my message board)

Fact 1. In the majoprity of the world there is starvation. (ie. africa)

Fact 2. The majority of the world want to escape starvation.

Fact 3. Some courageous people try to escape their own country all across the world.

Fact 4. A lot of countries don't welcome refugees.

Fact 5. Some countries are looser than others.

[Lidiya17]

Fact 6. A lot of "brave" people give others bribes to smuggle them outside of the country.

Fact 7. Bounty is always given to return people that breaks the law.

Fact 8. A lot of government, when they catch a refugee, they return him back to his own country.

Fact 9. China have shit to do with the North Korean governments executing people who leave without travel documents.

[Lidiya17]

Fact 10. Chinese criminals do not represent the entire chinese country. criminals all around the world do a lot things. china is pretty good, because they, at least, have the death penalty against these sort of people. 

Fact 11. A LOT OF women are forced into being sexual slaves.

Fact 12. The U.S is the only place where a robber can sue the person he was trying to steal from.

[Lidiya17]

(FACT 13. [DA MOST IMPORTANT ONE!!!!~~~<3] I have absolutely no idea why you posted that much shit on my message board other than that you were trying to tell me about North Korea's oh so tragic sob stories. Which by the way, is North Korea's own fucking problem. I don't see how you can drag China into North Korea's own incompetence)

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

I don't have friends lock turned on. Anyone may post on my channel or send me messages.

I am Korean. We don't see South or North Korean as different peoples. You harm North Korean, you harm Korean.

[Lidiya17]

Yes you did have it turned on b/c i tried sending message AND posting on your channel. -__-

I don't know why you bring up these random things such as north or south korea after attacking china for 98% of your posts.

I don't know much about korea, but according to what you said earlier, south korea set but a very tight security to prevent north koreans from sneaking into the country. why is that if you're all the same people?

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

It is for military protection. North Korea military always digging tunnels to infiltrate terrorists to destroy South Korea.

Please understand that we want to help North Korean, but we must build wall. It embarrassment, so we plant shrub to hide it.

[calebeurope02]

Nice Propaganda!

[calebeurope02]

Red government? WTF!

[goodmood102]

Even the Chineese have better environmental laws than the U.S.!?

[tubester4567]

Plastic/paper bags? They should ban shops then we dont need the bags. Problem solved.

[ACTORnSCREENWRITER]

w46,000

how much are they sold in $US?

sorry for the troubles

[MrKoffee1212]

I'm all for companies and consumers trying to minimize their impact on the environment but the government should not stick its nose in this. This is a tyrannically abuse of power by the Chinese government. Unfortunately many environmentalist won't stop until we have the same kind of non-sense jammed down our throats in the US. For example Carbon Taxation. Pay for your own pet projects with your own dollars.

[jethroCanbits12]

now i know why mcdonalds here in china changed the plastics into papers.. it's better for the environment.. but the manager there told me that it's more expensive..

[Fearliu]

at least this is a good move.. i believe

[kevin27a]

they have weapons of mass destruction?

[culisino]

Sharon Stone is cold blooded?

MILLIONS DEAD IN

-SUDAN, DARFUR (china blocked UN help to send troops)

-NORTH KOREA (brutal regime best friend is...? china)

-MYANMAR, BURMA (brutal regime best friend is..? china)

-EAST TURKISTAN (nuclear bombs tested and many killed)

-TIBET (u know...better than me)

-20 MILLION CHINESE KILLED BY MAO (his own people)

THATS BEING COLD BLOODED...

[54freeman]

you are son of bitch!just a foolish,you know nothing!

[chinapie1999]

Yeah, you are comparing a person to a government.

On government level, no single nation has clean hands.

[mercedescl]

-SUDAN, DARFUR (Ethiopia? Kenya? Rwanda? Somalia? Congo? Nigeria? Want to do a body count with the US vs China vs locals?)

-NORTH KOREA (S.Korea, Jp, and the US are also sending aid for its people)

-MYANMAR, BURMA (Thailand and India?)

-EAST TURKISTAN (evidences?)

-TIBET (the recent one doesn't seem particular brutal; at least no nation will sit on its hands if people want to revolt, right?)

-20 MILLION CHINESE KILLED BY MAO (1950s - 70s already; welcome to the 21st century)

[shintaroDaKiIIa]

I am Korean, and I am concerned about all Koreans, including brothers in North Korea.

China has become organ transplant Mecca. But where do the organs come from? There is no tradition of giving organs to strangers for free. Essentially, organs come from prisoners.

Problem is that there is no distinction between religious and political prisoner or criminal. I don't care if my kidney is taken from a serial killer, but I do care if it is taken from a free-thinking intellectual like Fang Lizhi.

[han9au]

fucking stupid, they translated chinese totally wrong

[Longlivepalestine]

han9au, when was the last time you heard an interview of a Chinese citizen?

Stop complaining. If you think you can do better, than please join Al-Jazeera and translate for them.

[pph2000]

BS on the last part. Whatever you do, these guys are always able to find something wrong.

[123UnitedWeStand123]

Sorry...there are NO PAPER BAGS out there as well...

It's either bring your own bag, carry it out with your hands or if there is too many items, the store will give out the cardboard boxes. Which can later be re-cycled.

This is definitely a good step in the right direction. But more must be done!!!

Free the environment!!!

[parthsna]

Nice to see china imposing environment friendly norms. Hope they extend it to other cities as well.

[angye888]

this is nation wide policy!

[oneundergod]

simplistic reswponses that make it look like its doing some thing [shame]

far better to clean up a river

yes plastic is a problem BUT its user's are being lazy ,what good is banning them going to do

the energy to make their'replacement'will only destroy more trees,or think of the energy that goes into the reusable bags made from cotton[recall cotton ALONE uses half the worlds supply of fertiliser AND half the worlds pesicide

clever stuff destracting the labour force to sew up the bags

[ijosdeputisima]

great post nutrino0¡¡¡¡¡

free nature¡¡¡¡¡

[Nutrino2179]

I hate the plastic film bags - it is rare to find a location where there is not at least one littering the ground, hanging in a bush, etc., but banning plastic bags would create a push back to paper bags. One problem solved and another exacerbated. Perhaps a more complete solution is to ban stores from dispensing free bags of any kind, and force our lazy butts to use our own resourcefulness - like carrying reusable bags to do our shopping. Bags made from a renewable resource like hemp fiber.

[eagle77seven]

Why do people think it's just plastic bags that's the problem? What about all the other unnecessary packing that we take home from supermarkets?

[uchoob00]

i'm sure they could get a job now at the paper bag manufacturing company ;)

[aquamammal]

The government will take care of those workers that lost their jobs in some way.

It's about time we banned the bags anyway. Sometimes a centralized authoritarian government that is not theocratic is the good way to go.

Its all about externalities.

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