Some of us call ourselves atheists but aren't really technically atheists. Does that matter to you? It doesn't matter to me. Surely there's no point in arguing about words, only ideas.
@hdregmore It is a good point. If you want to know the truth, the moment when I finally stopped calling myself an agnostic and switched to atheist is when I realized that most of the people calling themselves atheists shared my views. I guess I agree with the person who said atheism isn't really a belief system at all. If asked what my worldview was, I would say something like, "I believe in the enlightenment principles," not "there is no God" as (perhaps) many youtubers would say.
@CaitliNation Don't you mean not letting people vote the video down? Because that's what the majority of atheists do to Christian videos or those of a religious nature. If atheists were able to control their keystrokes without foul language and name-calling perhaps more would leave everything open. Being called every kind of name in the book because we believe in God opens the door for all kinds of garbage on our videos. I don't blame him for approving comments first and ratings are bogus!
1. Neither, I mean unless C has ever worked for you.
2. B
3. Well, if by theory you mean a scientific theory, then only b, however theory could be interpreted in its more loose meaning, then both a and b are correct.
4. I'd have to say both a and b, I couldn't ascribe it to be solely one or the other. Just think of how tribes often indulge in things that our society would consider immoral. Where was inherent behaviour then? Also, C could true, who knows.
3) D - The study of how biological life occurs from inorganic matter.
4) A, B, and (if you think about morality) D - Logical consideration on self and societal preservation.
5) D - One.
6) D - None. Just as one single symbol does not represent theism.
Also, some atheists may have different answers. Same for theists. In fact, "there are reported to be approximately 38,000 Christian denominations". That is Christianity alone.
4.) Both A and B (provided by A you were referring to inborn evolutionary predispositions)
5.) D - one
6.) A
Your test is flawed, sir, as it fails to include actual correct answers to most of the questions, and in at least one case fails to include a choice that includes both correct answers.
@hdregmore You don't actually know a single thing about my philosophy and as such are entirely unqualified to comment on whether or not it is flawed. For that matter, you don't even have any real indication that I AM an atheist.
Really? Since you're an expert on atheism, perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us as to what exactly it is that "most" atheists believe. Oh, and do try and provide some actual data to back up your claims.
@VestigialLung I do not need to justify myself or my video to you.
I presumed you were an atheist because you took the test. Not a strange conclusion to reach considering it is called an "Atheist Test". Do you often commit yourself to obscure examinations that have no relevance to you?
@BarryGormley2010 Why are you grandstanding your limited knowledge about the subject and informing us of things that we already know and do not relate to the video?
Atheistic arrogance perhaps?
Atheism is indeed a philosophy.
Your last statement is so brain numbingly generalized and inherently wrong that I think you may actually be joking.
1. D: none of the above. Atheism is lack of belief in gods. 2. A: in the scientific sense, but this has nothing to do with atheism. 3. A: actually, theory about ORIGIN of life. Creation isn't the right word. Again, irrelevant to atheism. 4: Both A and B are valid answers. Still irrelevant. 5. WTF does this have to do with anything? D: one to get a ladder and bulb to change it. 6. Can't blame Dudley for getting it wrong: that A looks much like the Dawkins A. It's the best out of the three.
@hdregmore "Congratulations. You have proven my point.
That atheists are all equally arrogant and diverse in their opinions regarding the philosophy."
Meanwhile all christians are humle and have completly unvarying beliefs.Guess all the different churches and descriptions of God and Jesus are just some kind of smokescreen to confuse every1.LMAO
"I have no "disbelief" in the Gods of any religion."So You believe in their existence?Or you don't have any position regarding them?Or something else?
@mastnejsalam More nonsense. The Christian beliefs in regard to the teaching of Jesus are are in agreement regarding most issues. So your point is irrelevant.
You obviously do not know the meaning of the word "disbelief". I am open to all religions that bring an individual to the point of knowing God and their place in the universe. You however cannot even agree about even the basics of your own philosophy. LMAO even more.
@hdregmore Even if the descriptions of Gods character and Jesus were all the same which I know arent since I care enough to actaully ask and dont just presume..Christians are dividing themselves among many different Churches with many unreconcilable beliefs that's a fact.Jesus is like what 1/4 of the Bible?So just ignore the Old testament or what(apparently lot of christians would argue about that e.i.the whole Leviticus thingy about gay people)?
@hdregmore If you are opened to other gods then you aren't christian.Simply because you haven't accepted God as a fact and believe that there could be other possibilities.And stop being hypocritical and avoiding simple YES or NO question:Do you believe in possible existence of any gods then the christian one?It's not a qestion about knowledge or wheter you'd believe if evidence were provided,it's question about your actual belief atm..
@mastnejsalam I beg your pardon. Where did you get that nonsense from? I can be accepting of as many Gods as I like. What makes you think that I am Christian? Why do I have to be? Even if I am that does not make me automatically in denial of other religions. The plurality of religions and Gods in no way diminishes the basic premise of a creator. That is an atheist strawman that was destroyed ages ago. To limit God is to destroy the very faith that you have in his universal characteristics. lol
@hdregmore "I beg your pardon. Where did you get that nonsense from? I can be accepting of as many Gods as I like. "Not if they are mutually exclusive which most of gods are,then it is nonsensical.As to atheist strawman:I am not an atheist so: "You however cannot even agree about even the basics of your own philosophy. LMAO even more."doesnt really apply much to me..and btw atheism isnt philosophy,same as not playing football isn't sport..
@hdregmore You know if my analogies weren't apt and if my information was incorrect you would be able to point out why and make a logical argument against me. The fact that you chose to delete my comment and attack my credibility without a rebuttal shows just how weak your argument must be.
@FatalFortuneCookie No need to. The rules of the forum are quite explicit. No disrespectful comment about religion are allowed.
If you cannot present your argument without belittling religious beliefs then it is not accepted here.
Your points can be made without such behaviour. I am not asking you to believe in any religion. Just to accept the arguments for them and argue your case against from a level position.
1) Of course it is a philosophy. It is a philosophy that states your belief in regard to man and the universe.
2) Buddhism is not a philosophy. It is a religion. It is an offshoot of Hinduism that focuses purely on freedom from samsara. It has no opinion on the presence of God.
3) The claim you are making of reincarnation is supernatural. Therefore you DO believe in supernatural claims.
You made disparaging comparisons in regard to religion. That is disrespectful.
1) Atheism is as much a philosophy as theism is a religion. It is only a single aspect of a broader philosophy and not a defining characteristic. Atheists have a broad range of philosophies and you shouldn't pigeon hole them.
2) Buddhism is indeed a religion and within that religion is philosophical doctrine which I embrace
3) I don’t believe in reincarnation and I thought I made that clear.
4) Your disbelief in the Gods of other religion IS THE SAME as my disbelief.
1) Theism is the belief that at least one deity exists. It therefore can be regarded as branch header for religion. Explain why you believe that atheists have different philosophies regarding the universe and our existence . It is always based on current science.
2) Religions do not have "philosophical doctrine". They have dogma which must be believed and followed. To simply state that "I believe in reincarnation" does not necessarily constitute religion or religiosity.
1) Atheism isn't always based on science there are many ways in which a person can become an atheist and many philosophical paths that lead to it. For instance, many people become atheists after reading the bible and being unable to reconcile their moral views with those of the bible (I know several people to whom this has happened).
@FatalFortuneCookie 1) Incorrect. If someone becomes an atheist because of the bible it is because they cannot accept what it purports or cannot hack following the process it desired. It is the same as someone quitting a science course because they do not accept science. That is a matter of ego. As I have said the philosophical reasons for a persons turning to atheism is due to material; science.
2) You are the one who obviously knows nothing about Buddhism.
3) No you did not. You cannot be a Buddhist without accepting reincarnation.
4) I have no "disbelief" in the Gods of any religion. If you present me with the authoritative scripture and processes of those religions and if their outcomes are knowledge of God, yourself and your place in the universe I will gladly embrace them.,
3) I never said I was Buddhist only that my philosophies are Buddhist. I reject all supernatural claims so I don't consider Buddhism my religion.
4) You are still stating that you either accept or reject claims about Gods based on evidence. The only difference between you and most atheists is that you require less proof
@FatalFortuneCookie What a strange idea. If your philosophies are that of Buddhism then Buddhism is your religion. How can you possibly be an atheist? Buddhism has no opinion regarding God.
You can't stand to see anything that goes against your views. You're intolerant and cry disrespectful, erroneous, or irrelevent when someone gives you a respectful argument. You're a coward and refuse to have a cordial discussion or debate.
@hdregmore First, I wasn't being disrespectful to any religion. Second, none of my comments were irrelevent or erroneous. And if they were, you should have explained how and why so I could defend my position, not delete and think you're better than the person who disagrees with you. And there is a fourth option, which is you can take a hard debate.
@HimesInu No. I remove comments that are disrespectful to religion.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the strength of any argument.
If there was a valid point then that is a shame for it has been invalidated by uncivil behaviour.
I find it amazing how ALL atheists believe their abusive comments are removed because they contain "strong arguments". They do not. Only hateful and usually incorrect rhetoric.
@HimesInu Try again then. Without being disrespectful to religion.
Present your argument civilly and ant criticisms you have of religion keep them respectful and where possible cite examples that may lead you to your conclusion.
I do not accept abusive unwarranted opinions, unqualified generalizations or hearsay.
@hdregmore I didn't write anything that was irrelevant or erroneous. You're the one with the skewed view of atheism. Wake up and take your bible goggles off.
Anyone else notice that this hdregmore person is real quick to delete comments and, like in the above video, only alow the Atheistic side of the story through when it suits his/her needs.
Facism at work
P.S. Yes its your right to delete what you want on your post, but filtering info dosn't make it less valid
@whiteowl1415 Incorrect. The problem is that you appear to be incapable of presenting an argument without being disrespectful to religion. You simply use the fact that I remove abusive comments to present the lie that they contain arguments.
I ask again how proposing that Atheism offers a need for self accountablity and Religion offers Prayer is disrespectful towards religion? Do you deny Religion offers Prayer?
And Why do you keep popping an Anarchist symbol on your "Atheist" character in various vids?
@whiteowl1415 That shows that you have not really watched my videos. I am not going to repeat the disrespectful comment that you made. I am just advising you to follow the rules of the forums.
@hdregmore You deleted my comments which were in no way disrespectful to your religion. You deleted them because they flipped your argument on its head.
@hdregmore What leap are you making here? Your fool atheist knew almost none of the answers. I know several atheists, and none of them are that stupid. My comment suggested that you did not know how an atheist would answer these questions. I believe you jumped to that conclusion based on how you feel about atheism just as I believe you jumped to the conclusion that I was an atheist because I was critical of your video. "Hatred solves nothing, understanding is the path to enlightenment."
@Silbob5 This video portrays the fact that many atheists have different suggestions regarding these questions. That is also proven to be true by the many comments that I receive regularly from atheists on my channel.
I am sorry if reality hurts you that much. However it is best to accept the facts rather than be ignorantly deluded.
If you believe that my video contains "hatred" then I believe that you are wrong. In any case there are far more videos on YT from atheists belittling believers.
@Singlerity The way you do it, yes. If you cannot present an argument civilly and without premeditated belittlement then don't bother. It is automatically invalid here.
@hdregmore "The way you do it, yes. If you cannot present an argument civilly and without premeditated belittlement then don't bother. It is automatically invalid here."-@hdregmore
And yet this is exaclty what your videos are towards Atheists
Well first, the concept of an "athiest test" is meaningless. Atheism is merely the lack of belief of the existence of God, nothing more. There can be athiests that believe in ghosts, support the Republican party or even believe the world was spontaneously created last thursday. Atheism does not present a claim, it is not a philosophy, it is not an ideology. Every question presented was irrelevant and if so, they were very poorly worded and structured.
@hdregmore Premise 1 is an example of what is known as a "fail" in contemporary language. Your obfuscation of the term "atheism" is not a proper contention (A dictionary would help). Premise 2-4 crumbles.
Premise 4 must be a joke, if you considers an objectiveless meaning of a symbol as "pertinent" (final question). Also, hiding behind garrolous words to make insults is, to be frank, childish. It is clear that Premise 5 has nothing to do with atheism.
@GreatArye 1) There are no "premises" in the video. Perhaps a dictionary would help
2) You are incorrect. The fact is that many atheists are very confused in regard to the meaning of their own philosophy. That is confirmed by many, many comments of my forums. Common sense would help you.
3) It is very 'pertinent" in relation to atheism. symbolism is an important part of organized groups and their goals.
@GreatArye 1) There are no "premises" in the video. Perhaps a dictionary would help
2) You are incorrect. The fact is that many atheists are very confused in regard to the meaning of their own philosophy. That is confirmed by many, many comments of my forums. Common sense would help you.
3) It is very 'pertinent" in relation to atheism. symbolism is an important part of organized groups and their goals.
@hdregmore I just noticed an earlier comment from you.
1) "This is confirmed by many, many comments of my forums" - What does quantity have to do with validity?
2) "[Symbolism] is vey 'pertinent' in relation to atheism, symbolism is an important part of organized groups" - The latter is plausible, but atheism is not an organized group.
@blackjeffrey1 You were going so well and then you made a disrespectful analogy.
Now let's see
Morality - well religion and God have been and are a large influence
Science - material science no, but in the philosophy of science yes
It is a shame you came up with the belittling analogy. Now I have to remove that comment.
People like Dawkins and Hitchens have a lot to answer for. They have made naive people think that it is okay to ridicule a person's religion or culture. That is a disgrace.
@hdregmore The only people it is a disgrace to is morons like you (again not disrespectful, as it is true).
You think religion is above reproach and should never be questioned.
You lie about atheism and misrepresent it.
You are a disgrace.
You did not delete my comment because it was disrespectful, but because it showed your idiocy. I will not be replying to you any more, as you clearly only care about the opinions of those who agree with you.
@blackjeffrey1 I do not think that religion is above reproach, I did not write that. I wrote that you were disrespectful toward religion.
I do not know where you were brought up in the world, but you need to learn that a persons culture and religion demands respect. regardless of whether you believe it or not. For at the end of the day atheism is merely a belief. And a parasitic one at that. Used to allow people like yourself license to abuse others who do not share your arrogant nihilism.
@hdregmore And that shows your stupidity or arrogance and disrespect for others. No one who knows what atheism and who wants to represent it correctly will say it a belief.
And no, not everything deserves respect. Should we respect the KKK and Al Quida? No. They call for horrible actions and are not worthy of respect. It is people that need to be respected, not their beliefs,
And yes, you have essentially put religion above reproach, by dismissing a perfectly correct analogy.
@blackjeffrey1 Of course it is a belief. Are you attempting to say that you KNOW that there is definitely no God? That would mean that you have knowledge of everything inside and outside of the universe. Which you do not. It therefore MUST be a belief.
That shows your stupidity or arrogance and disrespect for basic logic.
Now go away and be abusive somewhere else foolish person.
Atheism is not the belief that there is a god, atheism is just not believing in a god.
An atheist does not believe there is no god (they can, but that is not a requirement of atheism), they just don't believe there is a god.
In a court case, to find someone "not guilty" you don't need to believe they are innocent, you just don't believe they are guilty, It is not a dichotomy.
@hdregmore You either do not know what atheism is, or you are deliberately misrepresenting it.
You are the one with stupidity and arrogance and disrespect for basic logic, not me. You are the abusive one, not me. You are the foolish one, not me.
It is not not a belief because we know, it is not a belief because we make no claim. To believe a claim, there must be a claim, with atheism it is absent.
@blackjeffrey1 You are an imbecilic immoral retard. A condition that is probably congenital for I do not believe that a person could reach the depths of your depravity through learned behaviour.
@hdregmore They have ramifications to a variety of atheistic philosophies, but they are all philosophies that are derived from atheism, which are irrelevant to what atheism actually is. Atheism is relevant to them, but they are irrelevant to atheism. If you which to make a video about atheistic philosophies, such as materialism or existentialism, then make a video on them, and ask the questions there.
All that it is to be an atheist is to not believe in gods. Science is also irrelevant.
@blackjeffrey1 Incorrect, the premise of atheism influences how they view the subjects.
It is extremely naive to believe that atheism is simply a single belief. An analogy would be top say that you do not believe in air . That decision would automatically have ramifications on your opinions on many other things. (weather, respiration, transpiration etc)
The idea of it being that simply is a deliberate way of avoiding responsibility for those things that are influenced by the decision.
The premise of atheism influences these philosophies. However these philosophies have no influence on atheism.
Atheists in general do not have any answer to any of those questions, other than the definition of atheism. There are many different things that go into those other questions, no god is just one of them.
@bryan12294 There is no difference. There is however anti-theist as a sub category. Atheism is the lack of belief in God. That can be strong or weak. But if that absence of acknowledgement of a creator is there, you are an atheist.
@hdregmore Dudley mostly chooses answers that correspond to the strong atheist position. However, he seems a bit confused about facts such as the idea of abiogenesis (if he read the books, he would realize it's a hypothesis) and the big bang, and the idea of our morals come from both evolution and societal values. The other answers, aside from the humorous ones, will give you a clearer picture of what 90% of atheists actually believe. Search Wikipedia for Negative and Positive atheism.
@bryan12294 Thank you very much. So far you are the only atheist who has managed to glean the meaning of the whole video. Plus you are correct about the answers (in my view anyway).
We only differ in our opinion of "weak" and "strong" atheism. Which is neither here nor there for it is a manufactured subset.
@hdregmore No. It's the name of the logical fallacy (mistake in argument) that you used. Your opinion of me does not make my position any more or less correct.
@bryan12294 You are correct, I did attack you. Perhaps you posted something abusive on my other videos?
There may very well be sub-varieties of atheism. However that is not the point when dealing with the basic philosophy of lack of belief in God. There are also anti-theists who are considered aggressive atheists.
BTW. I do know what ad hominem means. I was being facetious.
@hdregmore Sorry, I didn't realize that you weren't the person who called me a "little twisted mr animal." You didn't attack me, nor did you use any logical fallacies. martiandog89 did. I'm sorry for this confusion. I keep my comments non-abusive, to the best of my ability.
@king78802 Why not? Atheism is a philosophy that has ramifications on many other things in life. to say it is merely a "belief in no God" is incredibly naive. As for science, that is the alter at which atheists now pray.
@hdregmore atheism is the belief that there is no god it does not means anymore than it does. morality is up to the individual like deism atheist have different views on morality \and not all atheist claim to have knowledge of science.just because your an atheist does not mean you know anything about evolution or the big bang it incredibly ignorant to believe because this person does not believe in god he suppose to know about science
Atheism is a philosophy that has ramifications on many other things in life. to say it is merely a "belief in no God" is incredibly naive. As for science, that is the alter at which atheists now pray.
If you say that you do not believe in gravity think of all the additional things in the natural world that you automatically negate in denial.
again i am saying not every atheist understand science nor claims to your generalizing and saying biology and cosmology is part of atheism is wrong when it have nothing to do with atheism it not hard to understand that alter at which atheists now pray. stupid statement
If you say that you do not believe in gravity think of all the additional things in the natural world that you automatically negate in denial.
@king78802 I am saying that if you refuse to believe in God, that has ramifications in respect to other things. Just like not believing in gravity. Is that so hard for you to understand? To say that atheism has nothing to do with science is also a nonsense. It is science that is used in attempts to disprove the existence of God as a creator.
Sorry but I cannot dumb it down for you any further. Perhaps you could get a friend to explain it for you.
As a non believer I get you are trying to wind up atheists but some of the questions were kind of dishonest and I'm not even talking about the last questions. First question, wordplay. The more honest answer would be atheism (a theist, without god) is the disbelief in a god. Disbelief is a better word as it opposes the state of a believer and disbelief does not require 'active' belief to support it. For example if you don't consider soccer to be nr1 sport you don't actively think about it.
@scrap222666 That was the whole idea of the questions. To display how complicated the philosophy of atheism is and why so many atheists get these things wrong. Atheists cannot even agree on a definition of atheism so how can they expect religious people to take them seriously. If you cannot get past the definition with an atheist, how can you debate the idea?
@hdregmore Totally agreed that is why I call myself a non-believer or simply if asked 'do you believe in god?' I answer 'no'. Much easier. Although no one has asked me that in real life as most of the people are non believers anyway. Olden days my people used to believe in Uku and Taara around the middle age, then came the crusade to the east and my country got converted to Christianity. Then came the occupation by USSR and most of religious ties were lost for good.
@scrap222666 That's a shame. I thought that religion would now be flourishing there considering the fall of communism and it's atheistic ideals. My understanding is that over 70 to 75% of the people are adherent Christians. That was 2000-2001 though. Are you saying that they are now not religious?
@hdregmore My country is Estonia (mentioning just in case). Anyway Estonians go to church maybe once a year and that is during Christmas and is more of a tradition. We have churches though as we always did, Catholic, Christian, Methodist, Lutheran, Orthodox, Jewish etc. They were even active during the communist times, it was just discouraged to go there as men stood in the entrance ways and marked down who of importance visited a church. Soviet constitution had "Freedom of belief" in it.
@hdregmore So to answer why we aren't religious now we simply were never religious. Christianity is a concept we never really adapted. It was always someone else who believed in it and wanted us to believe, we never quite understood why must we take gods from other people. So as worshiping nature gods of our own was long proven without merit we kind of probably just got on with our lives without religion. We never stop to think about it.
@scrap222666 And you speak for all of the former USSR do you? You know, the ones that I have just suggested are 70 to 75% adherent Christians. It sounds like you are thinking of it too much. You are attempting to convince yourself about an inherent desire that has never really left ANY civilization or society.
The facts just do not support you. Before communism membership of the Russian Orthodox Church was popular. Christianity had been there for ages.
@hdregmore No I speak of my own opinion (who else?). The example I put forward was of Estonia and what my family, relatives, friends, acquaintances, society through media outlets and my own perception allow me to perceive. I use myself as an example of a generation of someone who was born without a religious background to pull reasons why this is. Also please rephrase the "inherent desire that has never really left" sentence. I would really like to understand what you meant with it.
@hdregmore But I told you in my post. We had many Gods like Uku and Taara. How am I going against the point of a society not having Gods. My point was that the Christian God felt as a foreign entity. Basically our population was forced to adapt it when the Teutonic knight order Christened us by force. How is that anecdotal?
@scrap222666 No, when you say "my family, relatives, friends, acquaintances, society through media outlets and my own perception allow me to perceive." is anecdotal, not the history of your country.
Do you know exactly how Gods like Uku and Taara were worshiped? Is there religious texts and a processes that can be followed that brings a person to an understanding of God and the universe? Or has that all been lost now? If it has, that is sad.
@hdregmore I am not offended (saying it just in case) but I find it interesting how I could possibly transgress the standpoint of my own opinion. Everything I scrap222666 get from the world is subjective, every person in the world is subjective. Are you objective and beyond human capability?
As Estonians didn't know how to write, Uku and Taara(among others) were passed on as stories so the texts of them that remain are sadly of persons and scribes from other lands trying to describe our people.
@hdregmore I am not offended (saying it just in case) but I find it interesting how I could possibly transgress the standpoint of my own opinion. Everything I scrap222666 get from the world is subjective, every person in the world is subjective. Are you objective and beyond human capability?
As Estonians didn't know how to write, Uku and Taara(among others) were passed on as stories so the texts of them that remain are sadly of persons and scribes from other lands trying to describe our people.
You are getting your ass kicked and like all theists you have to run when the going gets tough. Well I have everything I have posted here and will be making a video to show your dishonesty shortly.
@KennyTew2 Be my guest. Judging by your efforts here it will be filled with disrespectful and abusive language and bereft of any valid arguments. You should try discussing these issues from a platform of civility and respect for a persons position. Not using foul offensive attempts in analogy to belittle people you do not agree with. That simply serves no purpose.
No it isn’t, simply repeating a mistake with no reasoning is not presenting an argument.
I used to be a Christian, I believed in the God of the bible, the rest of my beliefs were the same then as they are now, so by concluding that there is insufficient evidence for the existence of a god I have dropped one belief. If you wish to claim that my atheism is a belief, please tell me what I now believe that I did not before?
@KennyTew2 Easy, you BELIEVE that God does not exist. You cannot KNOW that God does not exist for that would mean that you have full knowledge of everything inside and outside of our universe. That is a simple fact. I can say that I believe that the man living at the end of the street is Russian but unless I have full confirmation by checking his birth certificate it remains a belief. You believe there is no God, therefore you are an atheist.
@hdregmore Because you have your own dogmatic idea of what atheists believe, despite there being no real tenets of atheism. You believe that atheists have a specific set of beliefs, and any atheist that doesn't prescribe to these beliefs aren't atheists to you, so they don't get to call themselves atheists. Sorry, but you don't get to decide what an atheist is, just like nobody even knows what a christian is.
@BigLundi The problem with atheists is that they cannot even agree on the meaning of their own philosophy. I define atheism in respect to religion, which is how it should be defined. For if the practices of religion did not exists (and thank God they do) atheism would not exist. It is a parasitic belief which makes most atheists dependent on religious knowledge to survive. If an atheist advises that they do not believe in God and moves on with their life I offer then my gracious respect.
@hdregmore Actually every atheists agrees as to their atheism. God doesn't exist. This can range anywhere from a positive belief of nonexistence, to simple disbelief of god's existence due to lack of evidence. But we're completely concistant on that.
The problem is, atheism isn't a philosophy. A single non belief isn't a philosophy. Hell, a single belief isn't a philosophy. And yes, atheism would exist even without religion. Because 'not believing in god' would still be there.
@BigLundi More nonsense. Atheism is indeed a philosophy. It is one that has ramification regarding many other things in life. Without God atheism would indeed not exist and you would have to find something else to group deny. Perhaps you guys should have a meeting and work out what your real definition is. Then you could put it into a document and call it your bible.
Parasitic negatives can never stand on their own.
@BigLundi If as you say atheism is simply "not believing something" then everything you have created, which includes foundations, societies and books are inconsequential negative folly upon which so called intelligent people have wasted their lives. And that makes no sense.
@hdregmore Still no concrete atheist belief aside from the no god thing.
Sorry, but you haven't even drawn the logical conclusion from, "atheism is not believing in something" to "Everything you and everyone has done is a waste of life."
@BigLundi It makes much more sense than your waste of life following it. You refer to religious people as deluded however you are even worse. You are the parasitic philosophy of an erroneous accusation of delusion.
Why is it that so many theists fail to understand even simple facts. Atheism is not a belief, it is the lack of a belief and as such you would have to be an imbecille to think that atheism has a philosophy.
I assumen that the maker of this video is an atheist regarding literally thousands of gods that have been proposed in the past, so his/her philosophy must be a combination of their theistic philiosophy and their atheistic philosophy.
@KennyTew2 Why is it that so many atheists fail to understand even simple facts? (with question mark).
Atheism is a belief, and as such you would have to be an imbecille to think that atheism is not a philosophy.
I assume (not assumen) that writer of this comment is an atheist who is not only illiterate but also unaware that the plurality of Gods is not an issue tor any religious person. He/she must also not understand the correct definition of the words "atheist" and "theist".
The video shows nothing but the ignorance of hdregmore.
All of the questions do not even have the correct answer present, plus you are making the assumption that in order to be an atheist one must know about evolution, the big bang, ect.
Atheism is the lack of belief in any gods. That is it.
@MrImmoli The comment by @MrImmoli shows nothing but the ignorance of atheism
All the questions are areas that relate to a persons belief in God. That this person thinks that atheism is a "simple disbelief in God" is an extremely naive and uneducated assertion.
The video purports that because most atheists do not know the correct answer to these questions, they really cannot call themselves atheists.
@MrImmoli is simply an uniformed opportunistic scientifically illiterate arrogant fool.
@hdregmore - Actually I was going to give blood, but decided to watch this instead...So if a child dies because of a blood shortage it will be your fault!
Some of us call ourselves atheists but aren't really technically atheists. Does that matter to you? It doesn't matter to me. Surely there's no point in arguing about words, only ideas.
sulljoh1 4 weeks ago
@sulljoh1 Sounds confusing. Which is the main point I was making with the video.
Atheism cannot be a simple "lack of belief" if even it's definition is highly contestable.
hdregmore 3 weeks ago
@hdregmore It is a good point. If you want to know the truth, the moment when I finally stopped calling myself an agnostic and switched to atheist is when I realized that most of the people calling themselves atheists shared my views. I guess I agree with the person who said atheism isn't really a belief system at all. If asked what my worldview was, I would say something like, "I believe in the enlightenment principles," not "there is no God" as (perhaps) many youtubers would say.
sulljoh1 3 weeks ago
Not letting people rate or comment without your approval. That's being open minded.
CaitliNation 1 month ago
@CaitliNation Ad populum arguments are always fallacious so why should I accept ratings? You should know that in reference to logic.
I also got sick of being hit by bots.Many of my videos had more bad ratings than the number of views.
It appears that atheists do not play fair (surprise surprise)
hdregmore 1 month ago
@CaitliNation Don't you mean not letting people vote the video down? Because that's what the majority of atheists do to Christian videos or those of a religious nature. If atheists were able to control their keystrokes without foul language and name-calling perhaps more would leave everything open. Being called every kind of name in the book because we believe in God opens the door for all kinds of garbage on our videos. I don't blame him for approving comments first and ratings are bogus!
YhwhKhaiMostHigh 1 month ago
Easy
1. Neither, I mean unless C has ever worked for you.
2. B
3. Well, if by theory you mean a scientific theory, then only b, however theory could be interpreted in its more loose meaning, then both a and b are correct.
4. I'd have to say both a and b, I couldn't ascribe it to be solely one or the other. Just think of how tribes often indulge in things that our society would consider immoral. Where was inherent behaviour then? Also, C could true, who knows.
5. lol.
6. I dunno.
frunchzz 1 month ago
There is no way to prove that a god does exist yet some religions believe it strongly.
Grrx8 2 months ago
@Grrx8 That is due to the outcomes of religious processes and religious experiences.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@ProDegiaque Your comment on my video “The Atheist Test - Do You Know Your Own “ has been rejected for the following reason.
It contained no specific criticism.
If you do not like my videos, don’t watch them. It is a free country.
hdregmore 2 months ago
1) D - Lack of belief in a god.
2) B
3) D - The study of how biological life occurs from inorganic matter.
4) A, B, and (if you think about morality) D - Logical consideration on self and societal preservation.
5) D - One.
6) D - None. Just as one single symbol does not represent theism.
Also, some atheists may have different answers. Same for theists. In fact, "there are reported to be approximately 38,000 Christian denominations". That is Christianity alone.
SkyeWintrest 2 months ago
@SkyeWintrest Perhaps you should talk to some of the other atheists who have posted different answers.
Your last statement has no bearing on the premise of the video.
Mayde you were just practicing at trivial pursuit.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@ DandAinTac
Your comment on my video "The Atheist Test - Do You Know Your Own Philosophy?
" has been rejected for the following reasons –
Atheism is indeed much more than just a “disbelief”.
The definition of God (as you should know) is universal among all religious groups.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@ plwpahi
Your comment on my video " The Atheist Test - Do You Know Your Own Philosophy? " has been rejected for the following reasons –
It made a strange assumption regarding the purpose and religiosity of the video and was therefore disrespectful to Christianity.
Your channel is also not open for comments.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@Amashkitotamoes's
Your comment has been rejected for the following reason -
It contained no valid criticisms
It would appear that atheists are easy to complain but reluctant to elaborate.
The video is not specifically for your interest.
hdregmore 3 months ago
So the answers are as follows:
1.) D - the lack of belief that there is a god
2.) B (probably C as well; rule 34 and all)
3.) B
4.) Both A and B (provided by A you were referring to inborn evolutionary predispositions)
5.) D - one
6.) A
Your test is flawed, sir, as it fails to include actual correct answers to most of the questions, and in at least one case fails to include a choice that includes both correct answers.
VestigialLung 4 months ago
@VestigialLung You are another atheist who has simply proven my point.
Your philosophy is flawed, sir.
Most atheists have different answers for ALL the questions.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore You don't actually know a single thing about my philosophy and as such are entirely unqualified to comment on whether or not it is flawed. For that matter, you don't even have any real indication that I AM an atheist.
Really? Since you're an expert on atheism, perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us as to what exactly it is that "most" atheists believe. Oh, and do try and provide some actual data to back up your claims.
VestigialLung 4 months ago
@VestigialLung I do not need to justify myself or my video to you.
I presumed you were an atheist because you took the test. Not a strange conclusion to reach considering it is called an "Atheist Test". Do you often commit yourself to obscure examinations that have no relevance to you?
Now go away and bother someone else.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@BarryGormley2010 Why are you grandstanding your limited knowledge about the subject and informing us of things that we already know and do not relate to the video?
Atheistic arrogance perhaps?
Atheism is indeed a philosophy.
Your last statement is so brain numbingly generalized and inherently wrong that I think you may actually be joking.
hdregmore 4 months ago
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hdregmore 4 months ago
1. D: none of the above. Atheism is lack of belief in gods. 2. A: in the scientific sense, but this has nothing to do with atheism. 3. A: actually, theory about ORIGIN of life. Creation isn't the right word. Again, irrelevant to atheism. 4: Both A and B are valid answers. Still irrelevant. 5. WTF does this have to do with anything? D: one to get a ladder and bulb to change it. 6. Can't blame Dudley for getting it wrong: that A looks much like the Dawkins A. It's the best out of the three.
TheHeidelbergKid 4 months ago
@TheHeidelbergKid Congratulations. You have proven my point.
That atheists are all equally arrogant and diverse in their opinions regarding the philosophy.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore "Congratulations. You have proven my point.
That atheists are all equally arrogant and diverse in their opinions regarding the philosophy."
Meanwhile all christians are humle and have completly unvarying beliefs.Guess all the different churches and descriptions of God and Jesus are just some kind of smokescreen to confuse every1.LMAO
"I have no "disbelief" in the Gods of any religion."So You believe in their existence?Or you don't have any position regarding them?Or something else?
mastnejsalam 4 months ago
@mastnejsalam More nonsense. The Christian beliefs in regard to the teaching of Jesus are are in agreement regarding most issues. So your point is irrelevant.
You obviously do not know the meaning of the word "disbelief". I am open to all religions that bring an individual to the point of knowing God and their place in the universe. You however cannot even agree about even the basics of your own philosophy. LMAO even more.
Congratulations, you have heightened my point.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore Even if the descriptions of Gods character and Jesus were all the same which I know arent since I care enough to actaully ask and dont just presume..Christians are dividing themselves among many different Churches with many unreconcilable beliefs that's a fact.Jesus is like what 1/4 of the Bible?So just ignore the Old testament or what(apparently lot of christians would argue about that e.i.the whole Leviticus thingy about gay people)?
mastnejsalam 4 months ago
@hdregmore If you are opened to other gods then you aren't christian.Simply because you haven't accepted God as a fact and believe that there could be other possibilities.And stop being hypocritical and avoiding simple YES or NO question:Do you believe in possible existence of any gods then the christian one?It's not a qestion about knowledge or wheter you'd believe if evidence were provided,it's question about your actual belief atm..
mastnejsalam 4 months ago
@mastnejsalam I beg your pardon. Where did you get that nonsense from? I can be accepting of as many Gods as I like. What makes you think that I am Christian? Why do I have to be? Even if I am that does not make me automatically in denial of other religions. The plurality of religions and Gods in no way diminishes the basic premise of a creator. That is an atheist strawman that was destroyed ages ago. To limit God is to destroy the very faith that you have in his universal characteristics. lol
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore "I beg your pardon. Where did you get that nonsense from? I can be accepting of as many Gods as I like. "Not if they are mutually exclusive which most of gods are,then it is nonsensical.As to atheist strawman:I am not an atheist so: "You however cannot even agree about even the basics of your own philosophy. LMAO even more."doesnt really apply much to me..and btw atheism isnt philosophy,same as not playing football isn't sport..
mastnejsalam 4 months ago
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hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore You know if my analogies weren't apt and if my information was incorrect you would be able to point out why and make a logical argument against me. The fact that you chose to delete my comment and attack my credibility without a rebuttal shows just how weak your argument must be.
FatalFortuneCookie 4 months ago
@FatalFortuneCookie No need to. The rules of the forum are quite explicit. No disrespectful comment about religion are allowed.
If you cannot present your argument without belittling religious beliefs then it is not accepted here.
Your points can be made without such behaviour. I am not asking you to believe in any religion. Just to accept the arguments for them and argue your case against from a level position.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore My comment in no way belittled any religious belief. Essentially all I said was:
1) Atheism is not a philosophy
2) I consider Buddhism to be my philosophy but consider myself to be areligious
3) I don't believe in supernatural claims
I made no mention of any other religion nor did I attack the beliefs of anyone else.
FatalFortuneCookie 4 months ago
@FatalFortuneCookie Fine
1) Of course it is a philosophy. It is a philosophy that states your belief in regard to man and the universe.
2) Buddhism is not a philosophy. It is a religion. It is an offshoot of Hinduism that focuses purely on freedom from samsara. It has no opinion on the presence of God.
3) The claim you are making of reincarnation is supernatural. Therefore you DO believe in supernatural claims.
You made disparaging comparisons in regard to religion. That is disrespectful.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
1) Atheism is as much a philosophy as theism is a religion. It is only a single aspect of a broader philosophy and not a defining characteristic. Atheists have a broad range of philosophies and you shouldn't pigeon hole them.
2) Buddhism is indeed a religion and within that religion is philosophical doctrine which I embrace
3) I don’t believe in reincarnation and I thought I made that clear.
4) Your disbelief in the Gods of other religion IS THE SAME as my disbelief.
FatalFortuneCookie 4 months ago
@FatalFortuneCookie
1) Theism is the belief that at least one deity exists. It therefore can be regarded as branch header for religion. Explain why you believe that atheists have different philosophies regarding the universe and our existence . It is always based on current science.
2) Religions do not have "philosophical doctrine". They have dogma which must be believed and followed. To simply state that "I believe in reincarnation" does not necessarily constitute religion or religiosity.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
1) Atheism isn't always based on science there are many ways in which a person can become an atheist and many philosophical paths that lead to it. For instance, many people become atheists after reading the bible and being unable to reconcile their moral views with those of the bible (I know several people to whom this has happened).
2) You obviously know nothing about Buddhism.
FatalFortuneCookie 4 months ago
@FatalFortuneCookie 1) Incorrect. If someone becomes an atheist because of the bible it is because they cannot accept what it purports or cannot hack following the process it desired. It is the same as someone quitting a science course because they do not accept science. That is a matter of ego. As I have said the philosophical reasons for a persons turning to atheism is due to material; science.
2) You are the one who obviously knows nothing about Buddhism.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@FatalFortuneCookie
3) No you did not. You cannot be a Buddhist without accepting reincarnation.
4) I have no "disbelief" in the Gods of any religion. If you present me with the authoritative scripture and processes of those religions and if their outcomes are knowledge of God, yourself and your place in the universe I will gladly embrace them.,
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore
3) I never said I was Buddhist only that my philosophies are Buddhist. I reject all supernatural claims so I don't consider Buddhism my religion.
4) You are still stating that you either accept or reject claims about Gods based on evidence. The only difference between you and most atheists is that you require less proof
FatalFortuneCookie 4 months ago
I'm sure that this has been pointed out to you already but atheism is not a philosophy. I am an atheist and my philosophies are Buddhist.
FatalFortuneCookie 4 months ago
@FatalFortuneCookie What a strange idea. If your philosophies are that of Buddhism then Buddhism is your religion. How can you possibly be an atheist? Buddhism has no opinion regarding God.
hdregmore 4 months ago
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hdregmore 4 months ago
You can't stand to see anything that goes against your views. You're intolerant and cry disrespectful, erroneous, or irrelevent when someone gives you a respectful argument. You're a coward and refuse to have a cordial discussion or debate.
HimesInu 4 months ago
@HimesInu If you cannot present your argument without being disrespectful to religion you either
1) Do not know your argument
2) Only wish to be abusive and are not interested in civil discourse
3) Must have a very weak or possibly non-existent argument
Which is it?
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore First, I wasn't being disrespectful to any religion. Second, none of my comments were irrelevent or erroneous. And if they were, you should have explained how and why so I could defend my position, not delete and think you're better than the person who disagrees with you. And there is a fourth option, which is you can take a hard debate.
HimesInu 4 months ago
@HimesInu No. I remove comments that are disrespectful to religion.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the strength of any argument.
If there was a valid point then that is a shame for it has been invalidated by uncivil behaviour.
I find it amazing how ALL atheists believe their abusive comments are removed because they contain "strong arguments". They do not. Only hateful and usually incorrect rhetoric.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore What was direspectful about it? What was uncivil?
HimesInu 4 months ago
@HimesInu Do your own critique. I am not going to repeat it.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore I can't because you deleted my original comment. And the start of this thread wasn't uncivil or disrespectful to religion.
HimesInu 4 months ago
@HimesInu Try again then. Without being disrespectful to religion.
Present your argument civilly and ant criticisms you have of religion keep them respectful and where possible cite examples that may lead you to your conclusion.
I do not accept abusive unwarranted opinions, unqualified generalizations or hearsay.
hdregmore 4 months ago
@HimesInu Wrote a whole lot of irrelevant and probably erroneous information
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hdregmore 4 months ago
@hdregmore I didn't write anything that was irrelevant or erroneous. You're the one with the skewed view of atheism. Wake up and take your bible goggles off.
HimesInu 4 months ago
Anyone else notice that this hdregmore person is real quick to delete comments and, like in the above video, only alow the Atheistic side of the story through when it suits his/her needs.
Facism at work
P.S. Yes its your right to delete what you want on your post, but filtering info dosn't make it less valid
whiteowl1415 5 months ago
@whiteowl1415 I delete comments that are disrespectful to religion.
If you cannot present without doing that then do not post.
Anyone notice that atheists are unable to civilly present an argument?
YEAHHHHHHH
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore
The problem is, anything that makes a real point, you consider disrespectful, thus no true discourse can take place.
whiteowl1415 5 months ago
@whiteowl1415 Incorrect. The problem is that you appear to be incapable of presenting an argument without being disrespectful to religion. You simply use the fact that I remove abusive comments to present the lie that they contain arguments.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore
I ask again how proposing that Atheism offers a need for self accountablity and Religion offers Prayer is disrespectful towards religion? Do you deny Religion offers Prayer?
And Why do you keep popping an Anarchist symbol on your "Atheist" character in various vids?
whiteowl1415 5 months ago
@whiteowl1415 That shows that you have not really watched my videos. I am not going to repeat the disrespectful comment that you made. I am just advising you to follow the rules of the forums.
Either that or do not post here.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore You deleted my comments which were in no way disrespectful to your religion. You deleted them because they flipped your argument on its head.
SuperThatGame 4 months ago
That guy got almost every question wrong whoever wrote this knows very little about atheism
Silbob5 5 months ago
@Silbob5 Sounds like you are the one who does not know his own philosophy.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore What leap are you making here? Your fool atheist knew almost none of the answers. I know several atheists, and none of them are that stupid. My comment suggested that you did not know how an atheist would answer these questions. I believe you jumped to that conclusion based on how you feel about atheism just as I believe you jumped to the conclusion that I was an atheist because I was critical of your video. "Hatred solves nothing, understanding is the path to enlightenment."
Silbob5 5 months ago
@Silbob5 This video portrays the fact that many atheists have different suggestions regarding these questions. That is also proven to be true by the many comments that I receive regularly from atheists on my channel.
I am sorry if reality hurts you that much. However it is best to accept the facts rather than be ignorantly deluded.
If you believe that my video contains "hatred" then I believe that you are wrong. In any case there are far more videos on YT from atheists belittling believers.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@Singlerity Wrote disrespectful nonsense
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I do not have to put up with your childish abuse. You are obviously some kind of congenital idiot.
Now go back to your innocuous life away from youtube.
hdregmore 5 months ago
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I do not have to put up with your childish abuse.
hdregmore 5 months ago
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hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore explaining definitions is "disrespectful nonesense"? I see...
Singlerity 5 months ago
@Singlerity The way you do it, yes. If you cannot present an argument civilly and without premeditated belittlement then don't bother. It is automatically invalid here.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore You cry when I explain that atheist is a person who answers no when asked if one believes in god?
You must be out of you fucking mind :D
Singlerity 5 months ago
@Singlerity That's all you have. Abusive bullshit and no valid argument.
You cry when you have to accept that your philosophy is nihilistic nonsense.
You do not have a mind to be fucking out of.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore "The way you do it, yes. If you cannot present an argument civilly and without premeditated belittlement then don't bother. It is automatically invalid here."-@hdregmore
And yet this is exaclty what your videos are towards Atheists
whiteowl1415 5 months ago
atheism is not a philosophy
u failed the video :/
Singlerity 5 months ago
@Singlerity atheism is a philosophy
u failed the comment
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hdregmore 5 months ago
Well first, the concept of an "athiest test" is meaningless. Atheism is merely the lack of belief of the existence of God, nothing more. There can be athiests that believe in ghosts, support the Republican party or even believe the world was spontaneously created last thursday. Atheism does not present a claim, it is not a philosophy, it is not an ideology. Every question presented was irrelevant and if so, they were very poorly worded and structured.
GreatArye 5 months ago in playlist More videos from hdregmore
@GreatArye You are very wrong
1) Atheism is a philosophy regarding the existence of God
2) This philosophy does have ramifications regarding other things.
3) Atheism does present a claim. The belief that God does not exist.
4) All the questions were quite pertinent to the philosophy
5) It is your insipid comment that is poorly worded and smacks of the usual denial.
Could do better. Try again.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore Premise 1 is an example of what is known as a "fail" in contemporary language. Your obfuscation of the term "atheism" is not a proper contention (A dictionary would help). Premise 2-4 crumbles.
Premise 4 must be a joke, if you considers an objectiveless meaning of a symbol as "pertinent" (final question). Also, hiding behind garrolous words to make insults is, to be frank, childish. It is clear that Premise 5 has nothing to do with atheism.
I can haz standard logic please?
GreatArye 5 months ago
@GreatArye 1) There are no "premises" in the video. Perhaps a dictionary would help
2) You are incorrect. The fact is that many atheists are very confused in regard to the meaning of their own philosophy. That is confirmed by many, many comments of my forums. Common sense would help you.
3) It is very 'pertinent" in relation to atheism. symbolism is an important part of organized groups and their goals.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@GreatArye 1) There are no "premises" in the video. Perhaps a dictionary would help
2) You are incorrect. The fact is that many atheists are very confused in regard to the meaning of their own philosophy. That is confirmed by many, many comments of my forums. Common sense would help you.
3) It is very 'pertinent" in relation to atheism. symbolism is an important part of organized groups and their goals.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore I just noticed an earlier comment from you.
1) "This is confirmed by many, many comments of my forums" - What does quantity have to do with validity?
2) "[Symbolism] is vey 'pertinent' in relation to atheism, symbolism is an important part of organized groups" - The latter is plausible, but atheism is not an organized group.
GreatArye 5 months ago
@GreatArye 1) Everything when we are debating what atheism means to individuals.
2) On the contrary it is a very organized group. There are many foundations, forums, conventions etc.
Why do you think that it is not?
hdregmore 5 months ago
@GreatArye
4) Perhaps you are attempting to use the word "garrulous"? Considering that the content is in cartoon form, this is quite acceptable.
To be frank I find your comment unjustifiably arrogant and due to vocabulary errors barely coherent.
Please keep it simple, especially if you are unable to correctly wield complex language.
Perhaps less dictionary-hopping and more comprehension would help.
hdregmore 5 months ago
@hdregmore Rather than assume a simple typo, you assume a lack of understanding. And yet you call me arrogant?
Rather than criticize people can you actually, for once, confront the content?
"Atheism does not present a claim, it is not a philosophy, it is not an ideology"
GreatArye 5 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 Wrote "I have not failed"
Yes you have, you claim to know everything but cannot answer my question.
You only provide constant ignorant insults. I think you are very immature. Run along and educate yourself.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 You were going so well and then you made a disrespectful analogy.
Now let's see
Morality - well religion and God have been and are a large influence
Science - material science no, but in the philosophy of science yes
It is a shame you came up with the belittling analogy. Now I have to remove that comment.
People like Dawkins and Hitchens have a lot to answer for. They have made naive people think that it is okay to ridicule a person's religion or culture. That is a disgrace.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore The only people it is a disgrace to is morons like you (again not disrespectful, as it is true).
You think religion is above reproach and should never be questioned.
You lie about atheism and misrepresent it.
You are a disgrace.
You did not delete my comment because it was disrespectful, but because it showed your idiocy. I will not be replying to you any more, as you clearly only care about the opinions of those who agree with you.
blackjeffrey1 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 I do not think that religion is above reproach, I did not write that. I wrote that you were disrespectful toward religion.
I do not know where you were brought up in the world, but you need to learn that a persons culture and religion demands respect. regardless of whether you believe it or not. For at the end of the day atheism is merely a belief. And a parasitic one at that. Used to allow people like yourself license to abuse others who do not share your arrogant nihilism.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore And that shows your stupidity or arrogance and disrespect for others. No one who knows what atheism and who wants to represent it correctly will say it a belief.
And no, not everything deserves respect. Should we respect the KKK and Al Quida? No. They call for horrible actions and are not worthy of respect. It is people that need to be respected, not their beliefs,
And yes, you have essentially put religion above reproach, by dismissing a perfectly correct analogy.
blackjeffrey1 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 Of course it is a belief. Are you attempting to say that you KNOW that there is definitely no God? That would mean that you have knowledge of everything inside and outside of the universe. Which you do not. It therefore MUST be a belief.
That shows your stupidity or arrogance and disrespect for basic logic.
Now go away and be abusive somewhere else foolish person.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore No. I would not say that.
However atheism makes no claim.
Atheism is not the belief that there is a god, atheism is just not believing in a god.
An atheist does not believe there is no god (they can, but that is not a requirement of atheism), they just don't believe there is a god.
In a court case, to find someone "not guilty" you don't need to believe they are innocent, you just don't believe they are guilty, It is not a dichotomy.
blackjeffrey1 6 months ago 2
@hdregmore You either do not know what atheism is, or you are deliberately misrepresenting it.
You are the one with stupidity and arrogance and disrespect for basic logic, not me. You are the abusive one, not me. You are the foolish one, not me.
It is not not a belief because we know, it is not a belief because we make no claim. To believe a claim, there must be a claim, with atheism it is absent.
blackjeffrey1 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 Wow, what an amazing atheist you are. You have knowledge of the entire universe and whatever is outside of it.
Just to confirm that, please tell me what my middle name is?
If you know there is no god because you know everything then surely you know that.
If not, then you have failed at your ridiculous assertion and look very, very silly because atheism is a belief.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 You are an imbecilic immoral retard. A condition that is probably congenital for I do not believe that a person could reach the depths of your depravity through learned behaviour.
Now piss off quick.
hdregmore 6 months ago
1 - not believing there is a god.
2 - define "proven theory"
3 - A collection of hypothesises regarding the emergence of life from non life
4 - a and b
5 - depends on how good they are, one can do it.
6 - A bunch of them.
You can prove specific gods do not exist, such as the god of the Bible.
When you are referring to gods as a noun, it should not be capitalised.
blackjeffrey1 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 Congratulations. You have reflected in your responses what I am trying to show. That the atheist position on all these issues vary.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore Yes, I know, however the first part is still a definite answer.
An atheist is defined as someone who does not believe in God.
The majority of the rest of the questions have nothing to do with atheism.
blackjeffrey1 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 You are correct however many atheists mistakenly have other definitions.
On the contrary they all have ramifications to an atheistic philosophy.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore They have ramifications to a variety of atheistic philosophies, but they are all philosophies that are derived from atheism, which are irrelevant to what atheism actually is. Atheism is relevant to them, but they are irrelevant to atheism. If you which to make a video about atheistic philosophies, such as materialism or existentialism, then make a video on them, and ask the questions there.
All that it is to be an atheist is to not believe in gods. Science is also irrelevant.
blackjeffrey1 6 months ago
@blackjeffrey1 Incorrect, the premise of atheism influences how they view the subjects.
It is extremely naive to believe that atheism is simply a single belief. An analogy would be top say that you do not believe in air . That decision would automatically have ramifications on your opinions on many other things. (weather, respiration, transpiration etc)
The idea of it being that simply is a deliberate way of avoiding responsibility for those things that are influenced by the decision.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore No. You are somewhat correct.
The premise of atheism influences these philosophies. However these philosophies have no influence on atheism.
Atheists in general do not have any answer to any of those questions, other than the definition of atheism. There are many different things that go into those other questions, no god is just one of them.
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blackjeffrey1 6 months ago
You fail to differentiate between "weak" and "strong" atheism. Most atheists are of the "weak" variety, but weak atheism is not a weak position.
bryan12294 7 months ago
@bryan12294 There is no difference. There is however anti-theist as a sub category. Atheism is the lack of belief in God. That can be strong or weak. But if that absence of acknowledgement of a creator is there, you are an atheist.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore Dudley mostly chooses answers that correspond to the strong atheist position. However, he seems a bit confused about facts such as the idea of abiogenesis (if he read the books, he would realize it's a hypothesis) and the big bang, and the idea of our morals come from both evolution and societal values. The other answers, aside from the humorous ones, will give you a clearer picture of what 90% of atheists actually believe. Search Wikipedia for Negative and Positive atheism.
bryan12294 6 months ago
@bryan12294 Thank you very much. So far you are the only atheist who has managed to glean the meaning of the whole video. Plus you are correct about the answers (in my view anyway).
We only differ in our opinion of "weak" and "strong" atheism. Which is neither here nor there for it is a manufactured subset.
Please help to enlighten your brethren.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@bryan12294 You are a little twisted mr animal.
martiandog89 6 months ago
@martiandog89 Ad hominem, ad hominem.
bryan12294 6 months ago
@bryan12294 Thy name is ad hominem.
Shakespeare isn't it?
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore No. It's the name of the logical fallacy (mistake in argument) that you used. Your opinion of me does not make my position any more or less correct.
bryan12294 6 months ago
@bryan12294 You are correct, I did attack you. Perhaps you posted something abusive on my other videos?
There may very well be sub-varieties of atheism. However that is not the point when dealing with the basic philosophy of lack of belief in God. There are also anti-theists who are considered aggressive atheists.
BTW. I do know what ad hominem means. I was being facetious.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@hdregmore Sorry, I didn't realize that you weren't the person who called me a "little twisted mr animal." You didn't attack me, nor did you use any logical fallacies. martiandog89 did. I'm sorry for this confusion. I keep my comments non-abusive, to the best of my ability.
bryan12294 6 months ago
@bryan12294 Oh yea, now I see. No problem. I welcome anyone who is civil.
hdregmore 6 months ago
@king78802 Incorrect. The analogy is perfect for gravity cannot be seen.
The rest of your comment is just spurious nonsense not relating to anything asserted.
In fact it was disrespectful regarding the purpose of religion
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Wake Up Atheism
hdregmore 7 months ago
you do know that science have nothing to do with atheism right and atheism is not meant to answer questions on morality
king78802 7 months ago
@king78802 Why not? Atheism is a philosophy that has ramifications on many other things in life. to say it is merely a "belief in no God" is incredibly naive. As for science, that is the alter at which atheists now pray.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore atheism is the belief that there is no god it does not means anymore than it does. morality is up to the individual like deism atheist have different views on morality \and not all atheist claim to have knowledge of science.just because your an atheist does not mean you know anything about evolution or the big bang it incredibly ignorant to believe because this person does not believe in god he suppose to know about science
king78802 7 months ago
@king78802 No, as I mentioned -
Atheism is a philosophy that has ramifications on many other things in life. to say it is merely a "belief in no God" is incredibly naive. As for science, that is the alter at which atheists now pray.
If you say that you do not believe in gravity think of all the additional things in the natural world that you automatically negate in denial.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore no its not because that what it means
again i am saying not every atheist understand science nor claims to your generalizing and saying biology and cosmology is part of atheism is wrong when it have nothing to do with atheism it not hard to understand that alter at which atheists now pray. stupid statement
If you say that you do not believe in gravity think of all the additional things in the natural world that you automatically negate in denial.
WTF are you talking about
king78802 7 months ago
@king78802 I am saying that if you refuse to believe in God, that has ramifications in respect to other things. Just like not believing in gravity. Is that so hard for you to understand? To say that atheism has nothing to do with science is also a nonsense. It is science that is used in attempts to disprove the existence of God as a creator.
Sorry but I cannot dumb it down for you any further. Perhaps you could get a friend to explain it for you.
hdregmore 7 months ago
Um... this is awful.
johndivy 7 months ago
@johndivy Not really, compared to atheist humour it is magnificent.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@Lathox Wrote disrespectful nonsense about God
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hdregmore 7 months ago
As a non believer I get you are trying to wind up atheists but some of the questions were kind of dishonest and I'm not even talking about the last questions. First question, wordplay. The more honest answer would be atheism (a theist, without god) is the disbelief in a god. Disbelief is a better word as it opposes the state of a believer and disbelief does not require 'active' belief to support it. For example if you don't consider soccer to be nr1 sport you don't actively think about it.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@scrap222666 That was the whole idea of the questions. To display how complicated the philosophy of atheism is and why so many atheists get these things wrong. Atheists cannot even agree on a definition of atheism so how can they expect religious people to take them seriously. If you cannot get past the definition with an atheist, how can you debate the idea?
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore Totally agreed that is why I call myself a non-believer or simply if asked 'do you believe in god?' I answer 'no'. Much easier. Although no one has asked me that in real life as most of the people are non believers anyway. Olden days my people used to believe in Uku and Taara around the middle age, then came the crusade to the east and my country got converted to Christianity. Then came the occupation by USSR and most of religious ties were lost for good.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@scrap222666 That's a shame. I thought that religion would now be flourishing there considering the fall of communism and it's atheistic ideals. My understanding is that over 70 to 75% of the people are adherent Christians. That was 2000-2001 though. Are you saying that they are now not religious?
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore My country is Estonia (mentioning just in case). Anyway Estonians go to church maybe once a year and that is during Christmas and is more of a tradition. We have churches though as we always did, Catholic, Christian, Methodist, Lutheran, Orthodox, Jewish etc. They were even active during the communist times, it was just discouraged to go there as men stood in the entrance ways and marked down who of importance visited a church. Soviet constitution had "Freedom of belief" in it.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@hdregmore So to answer why we aren't religious now we simply were never religious. Christianity is a concept we never really adapted. It was always someone else who believed in it and wanted us to believe, we never quite understood why must we take gods from other people. So as worshiping nature gods of our own was long proven without merit we kind of probably just got on with our lives without religion. We never stop to think about it.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@scrap222666 And you speak for all of the former USSR do you? You know, the ones that I have just suggested are 70 to 75% adherent Christians. It sounds like you are thinking of it too much. You are attempting to convince yourself about an inherent desire that has never really left ANY civilization or society.
The facts just do not support you. Before communism membership of the Russian Orthodox Church was popular. Christianity had been there for ages.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore No I speak of my own opinion (who else?). The example I put forward was of Estonia and what my family, relatives, friends, acquaintances, society through media outlets and my own perception allow me to perceive. I use myself as an example of a generation of someone who was born without a religious background to pull reasons why this is. Also please rephrase the "inherent desire that has never really left" sentence. I would really like to understand what you meant with it.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@scrap222666 Well that is only your opinion based on your experience and as such anecdotal.
My point of "inherent desire that has never really left" is quite clear.
There is not and has never been a civilization that has not had the basic premise of God or Gods within their society.
You are right about Estonia, according to the 2000 census it appears that there is a low percentage of people who are religious.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore But I told you in my post. We had many Gods like Uku and Taara. How am I going against the point of a society not having Gods. My point was that the Christian God felt as a foreign entity. Basically our population was forced to adapt it when the Teutonic knight order Christened us by force. How is that anecdotal?
scrap222666 7 months ago
@scrap222666 No, when you say "my family, relatives, friends, acquaintances, society through media outlets and my own perception allow me to perceive." is anecdotal, not the history of your country.
Do you know exactly how Gods like Uku and Taara were worshiped? Is there religious texts and a processes that can be followed that brings a person to an understanding of God and the universe? Or has that all been lost now? If it has, that is sad.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore I am not offended (saying it just in case) but I find it interesting how I could possibly transgress the standpoint of my own opinion. Everything I scrap222666 get from the world is subjective, every person in the world is subjective. Are you objective and beyond human capability?
As Estonians didn't know how to write, Uku and Taara(among others) were passed on as stories so the texts of them that remain are sadly of persons and scribes from other lands trying to describe our people.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@hdregmore I am not offended (saying it just in case) but I find it interesting how I could possibly transgress the standpoint of my own opinion. Everything I scrap222666 get from the world is subjective, every person in the world is subjective. Are you objective and beyond human capability?
As Estonians didn't know how to write, Uku and Taara(among others) were passed on as stories so the texts of them that remain are sadly of persons and scribes from other lands trying to describe our people.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@BigLundi Enough. Go play somewhere else Mr Strawman.
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hdregmore 7 months ago
@KennyTew2 Wrote disrespectful rubbish about religion.
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Publish and be damned. Any publicity is good publicity.
hdregmore 7 months ago
You are getting your ass kicked and like all theists you have to run when the going gets tough. Well I have everything I have posted here and will be making a video to show your dishonesty shortly.
KennyTew2 7 months ago
@KennyTew2 Be my guest. Judging by your efforts here it will be filled with disrespectful and abusive language and bereft of any valid arguments. You should try discussing these issues from a platform of civility and respect for a persons position. Not using foul offensive attempts in analogy to belittle people you do not agree with. That simply serves no purpose.
Wake Up Atheism.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@KennyTew2 Wrote disrespectful rubbish about religion.
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hdregmore 7 months ago
@KennyTew2 Wrote disrespectful rubbish about religion.
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hdregmore 7 months ago
2) "Atheism is a belief"
No it isn’t, simply repeating a mistake with no reasoning is not presenting an argument.
I used to be a Christian, I believed in the God of the bible, the rest of my beliefs were the same then as they are now, so by concluding that there is insufficient evidence for the existence of a god I have dropped one belief. If you wish to claim that my atheism is a belief, please tell me what I now believe that I did not before?
KennyTew2 7 months ago
@KennyTew2 Easy, you BELIEVE that God does not exist. You cannot KNOW that God does not exist for that would mean that you have full knowledge of everything inside and outside of our universe. That is a simple fact. I can say that I believe that the man living at the end of the street is Russian but unless I have full confirmation by checking his birth certificate it remains a belief. You believe there is no God, therefore you are an atheist.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@KennyTew2 Why am I always having to educate atheists regarding their own position of religious philosophy?
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore Because you have your own dogmatic idea of what atheists believe, despite there being no real tenets of atheism. You believe that atheists have a specific set of beliefs, and any atheist that doesn't prescribe to these beliefs aren't atheists to you, so they don't get to call themselves atheists. Sorry, but you don't get to decide what an atheist is, just like nobody even knows what a christian is.
BigLundi 7 months ago
@BigLundi The problem with atheists is that they cannot even agree on the meaning of their own philosophy. I define atheism in respect to religion, which is how it should be defined. For if the practices of religion did not exists (and thank God they do) atheism would not exist. It is a parasitic belief which makes most atheists dependent on religious knowledge to survive. If an atheist advises that they do not believe in God and moves on with their life I offer then my gracious respect.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore Actually every atheists agrees as to their atheism. God doesn't exist. This can range anywhere from a positive belief of nonexistence, to simple disbelief of god's existence due to lack of evidence. But we're completely concistant on that.
The problem is, atheism isn't a philosophy. A single non belief isn't a philosophy. Hell, a single belief isn't a philosophy. And yes, atheism would exist even without religion. Because 'not believing in god' would still be there.
BigLundi 7 months ago
@BigLundi More nonsense. Atheism is indeed a philosophy. It is one that has ramification regarding many other things in life. Without God atheism would indeed not exist and you would have to find something else to group deny. Perhaps you guys should have a meeting and work out what your real definition is. Then you could put it into a document and call it your bible.
Parasitic negatives can never stand on their own.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore Atheism would indeed exist without a god, because that's what atheism is. No god.
Tell me, what beliefs does atheism have outside of the whole 'no god' thing?
BigLundi 7 months ago
@BigLundi If as you say atheism is simply "not believing something" then everything you have created, which includes foundations, societies and books are inconsequential negative folly upon which so called intelligent people have wasted their lives. And that makes no sense.
hdregmore 7 months ago
@hdregmore Still no concrete atheist belief aside from the no god thing.
Sorry, but you haven't even drawn the logical conclusion from, "atheism is not believing in something" to "Everything you and everyone has done is a waste of life."
Your conclusion makes no sense.
BigLundi 7 months ago
@BigLundi It makes much more sense than your waste of life following it. You refer to religious people as deluded however you are even worse. You are the parasitic philosophy of an erroneous accusation of delusion.
That makes even less sense.
Wake Up Atheism
hdregmore 7 months ago
Why is it that so many theists fail to understand even simple facts. Atheism is not a belief, it is the lack of a belief and as such you would have to be an imbecille to think that atheism has a philosophy.
I assumen that the maker of this video is an atheist regarding literally thousands of gods that have been proposed in the past, so his/her philosophy must be a combination of their theistic philiosophy and their atheistic philosophy.
KennyTew2 7 months ago
@KennyTew2 Why is it that so many atheists fail to understand even simple facts? (with question mark).
Atheism is a belief, and as such you would have to be an imbecille to think that atheism is not a philosophy.
I assume (not assumen) that writer of this comment is an atheist who is not only illiterate but also unaware that the plurality of Gods is not an issue tor any religious person. He/she must also not understand the correct definition of the words "atheist" and "theist".
How sad.
hdregmore 7 months ago
The video shows nothing but the ignorance of hdregmore.
All of the questions do not even have the correct answer present, plus you are making the assumption that in order to be an atheist one must know about evolution, the big bang, ect.
Atheism is the lack of belief in any gods. That is it.
MrImmoli 8 months ago
@MrImmoli The comment by @MrImmoli shows nothing but the ignorance of atheism
All the questions are areas that relate to a persons belief in God. That this person thinks that atheism is a "simple disbelief in God" is an extremely naive and uneducated assertion.
The video purports that because most atheists do not know the correct answer to these questions, they really cannot call themselves atheists.
@MrImmoli is simply an uniformed opportunistic scientifically illiterate arrogant fool.
hdregmore 8 months ago
@MrImmoli
Wake Up Atheism
hdregmore 8 months ago
Well that's 2 minutes I won't get back! Thanks!
rogan71 8 months ago
@rogan71 You were not doing anything of any consequence with it anyway so stop whinging.
hdregmore 8 months ago
@hdregmore - Actually I was going to give blood, but decided to watch this instead...So if a child dies because of a blood shortage it will be your fault!
rogan71 8 months ago
@rogan71 Not possible because they do not need any blood that is A Negative Denier. LOL
hdregmore 8 months ago