Again, im back. thats me in the Video. I have now left Gillette Wy. Why? because when you grow up in a suburb of a city like Detroit its hard to move to the middle of nowhere. And though the people of Wy have a big heart they dont really want to know about the rest of the world. Also just the convenices of a big city were just too far...........We just couldnt adjust. Also it was hard to break into any kind of social group we were outsiders. we have moved elsewhere and are very happy.
You are so correct! They keep re-electing their socialist Canadian governor who is ruining the economy. Michigan needs to repeal the union legistlation and become a booming red state like Utah, Arizona, Wyoming, and many of the southern states like Texas.
It's not "union legislation" that needs to be repealed...it's corruption and elitism that is prevelant in the republican party which is WHY the unions themselves became corrupt just like the CEOs...quit bashing the union...the union CREATED the middle class!
Yes. At one time there was an argument for unions, but now unions do nothing to help the economy. Unions decrease the number of employed people by raising the costs of labor. Unions corrupt companies. You need to go to Econ 101.
So, if Unions do nothing to help the economy then where do YOU suppose the Middle/Working class for the last 100 years or so came from? How was it that people for generations made a livng workin in unions if unions r the problem?
Unions don't "set wages" the wages are AGREED upon by them and the companies they work with....as soon as the big companies learned that they could (whether legally or not) pay foreigners less, they did that AND moved their mfg. to other countries. Unions have negotiated pay cut after pay cut but it wasn't enuff to compete with the the labor costs of foreigners or those in POOR countries!!
If ur Econ 101 class taught u that unions set their own wages then maybe u need to consider who's behind the "philosophies" in those classes. Unions don't corrupt companies...ELITISM does!!!!
@herbs814 No... unions keep a reasonable income and control a company so it's workers can live and plan for a future. Even if this is a year old. Otherwise, you get heavy outsourcing and low wages, companies will work them for as long as they can for as little as they can. Had it not been for a union protecting the workers, 10-12hr days would be common for only $18 an hr, with no vacation, no sick leave, no benefits and no pension or retirement. Something like I currently do at this time.
@blaknoizee No, unions are tyrannical thugs that harass productive companies and exploit the employees they fraudulently claim to represent. Outsourcing is the rational response to the threat of union thugs. Unions are evil tyrants who steal, threaten, abuse, and destroy. Improvements in working conditions and wages come from productive companies making a profit, no from abusive union thugs threatening honest employers.
Yeah right, like any economists have accurately predicted anything! Every month when the figures come out they are "shocked", "Surprised", or the results were "unexpected".
Personally I think the economists are a group of liars. Probably paid by someone to lie.
so this is why wyoming is going down the shitter. most wont stay. wyoming has a harsh climate. most cant handle it for long. dont move to wyoming..we really dont want you here.
I did stay thats me in the video. Your climate is better than in michigan where its colder and wetter and snowier. And it looks like you do need some of us here, Ive met some of the laziest Wyomingites. A guy like me that used to work his ass off everyday in a auto assembly plant this is a breeze.
Problem is when the Michigan people get to Wyoming,they will unionize everything,drive up wages,and make Wyoming non-competitive like Michigan is now.It's a global economy.
Yeah, god forbid people get paid enuff to actually be able 2 survive in the nation they work in....for the people they are making wealthy beyond imagination. I guess minimum wage should be enuff? I guess if it's good enuff for the Mexicans, it should b good enuff for us eh?
Sorry, but only the free market can set wages in the long term. Unions had a purpose but today they are obsolete. Look at the Hawaiian pineapple industry. In business for 120 years, they unionized, wages skyrocketed, the industry packed up and relocated. There are NO pineapple jobs in Hawaii. So the unemployed pineapple growers in Hawaii will tell you... a lower wage job is better than no job.
Wages don't skyrocket because unions "set" them....wages skyrocket becuz the COST OF LIVING skyrockets. Unions are now obsolete becuz they have been slowly killed off so that Mexico and China...who CAN LIVE OFF OF $7.00 per hour...can make their parts cheaper so they can get RICHER! What do we make now?!?
Again, im back. thats me in the Video. I have now left Gillette Wy. Why? because when you grow up in a suburb of a city like Detroit its hard to move to the middle of nowhere. And though the people of Wy have a big heart they dont really want to know about the rest of the world. Also just the convenices of a big city were just too far...........We just couldnt adjust. Also it was hard to break into any kind of social group we were outsiders. we have moved elsewhere and are very happy.
britishinvasion1 2 years ago
Wyoming sucks tho.........You are either eating dust or snow....
frio109 2 years ago
Michigan cry babies! You fools keep voting for Granholm now stop crying Get a job losers!
bigefm 3 years ago
You are so correct! They keep re-electing their socialist Canadian governor who is ruining the economy. Michigan needs to repeal the union legistlation and become a booming red state like Utah, Arizona, Wyoming, and many of the southern states like Texas.
JohnRhysMusician 3 years ago 2
It's not "union legislation" that needs to be repealed...it's corruption and elitism that is prevelant in the republican party which is WHY the unions themselves became corrupt just like the CEOs...quit bashing the union...the union CREATED the middle class!
julzabro 2 years ago
Yes. At one time there was an argument for unions, but now unions do nothing to help the economy. Unions decrease the number of employed people by raising the costs of labor. Unions corrupt companies. You need to go to Econ 101.
JohnRhysMusician 2 years ago
So, if Unions do nothing to help the economy then where do YOU suppose the Middle/Working class for the last 100 years or so came from? How was it that people for generations made a livng workin in unions if unions r the problem?
julzabro 2 years ago
Unions don't "set wages" the wages are AGREED upon by them and the companies they work with....as soon as the big companies learned that they could (whether legally or not) pay foreigners less, they did that AND moved their mfg. to other countries. Unions have negotiated pay cut after pay cut but it wasn't enuff to compete with the the labor costs of foreigners or those in POOR countries!!
julzabro 2 years ago
If ur Econ 101 class taught u that unions set their own wages then maybe u need to consider who's behind the "philosophies" in those classes. Unions don't corrupt companies...ELITISM does!!!!
julzabro 2 years ago
Unions are abusive thugs that destroy jobs, harass employees, and spread Marxist propaganda. Unions are a pest that are ruining America.
herbs814 2 years ago
@herbs814 No... unions keep a reasonable income and control a company so it's workers can live and plan for a future. Even if this is a year old. Otherwise, you get heavy outsourcing and low wages, companies will work them for as long as they can for as little as they can. Had it not been for a union protecting the workers, 10-12hr days would be common for only $18 an hr, with no vacation, no sick leave, no benefits and no pension or retirement. Something like I currently do at this time.
blaknoizee 7 months ago
@blaknoizee No, unions are tyrannical thugs that harass productive companies and exploit the employees they fraudulently claim to represent. Outsourcing is the rational response to the threat of union thugs. Unions are evil tyrants who steal, threaten, abuse, and destroy. Improvements in working conditions and wages come from productive companies making a profit, no from abusive union thugs threatening honest employers.
herbs814 3 months ago
Yeah right, like any economists have accurately predicted anything! Every month when the figures come out they are "shocked", "Surprised", or the results were "unexpected".
Personally I think the economists are a group of liars. Probably paid by someone to lie.
Econ 101 is a falsehood.
RayAir1 2 years ago
Yeah, cuz Bush had nothing to do with ruining the economy...it was allll Jen!
julzabro 2 years ago
You guys also need to decrease corporate and personal income taxes. Your personal income taxes are higher than Illinois!
JohnRhysMusician 2 years ago
Finding a job was really time consuming and stressful until I found InsurCrossing.
brandonemails4 3 years ago
Where are U from? Michigan? Hell ive been in WY for almost 2 years now its great.
britishinvasion1 3 years ago
so this is why wyoming is going down the shitter. most wont stay. wyoming has a harsh climate. most cant handle it for long. dont move to wyoming..we really dont want you here.
have a nice day :)
red1100cc 4 years ago 2
I did stay thats me in the video. Your climate is better than in michigan where its colder and wetter and snowier. And it looks like you do need some of us here, Ive met some of the laziest Wyomingites. A guy like me that used to work his ass off everyday in a auto assembly plant this is a breeze.
britishinvasion1 3 years ago
that wont happen its not a union state
AICMasta 5 years ago
that wont happen its not a union state
AICMasta 5 years ago
Problem is when the Michigan people get to Wyoming,they will unionize everything,drive up wages,and make Wyoming non-competitive like Michigan is now.It's a global economy.
label1877 5 years ago
that wont happen its not a union state
AICMasta 5 years ago
Yeah, god forbid people get paid enuff to actually be able 2 survive in the nation they work in....for the people they are making wealthy beyond imagination. I guess minimum wage should be enuff? I guess if it's good enuff for the Mexicans, it should b good enuff for us eh?
julzabro 2 years ago
Sorry, but only the free market can set wages in the long term. Unions had a purpose but today they are obsolete. Look at the Hawaiian pineapple industry. In business for 120 years, they unionized, wages skyrocketed, the industry packed up and relocated. There are NO pineapple jobs in Hawaii. So the unemployed pineapple growers in Hawaii will tell you... a lower wage job is better than no job.
label1877 2 years ago
Wages don't skyrocket because unions "set" them....wages skyrocket becuz the COST OF LIVING skyrockets. Unions are now obsolete becuz they have been slowly killed off so that Mexico and China...who CAN LIVE OFF OF $7.00 per hour...can make their parts cheaper so they can get RICHER! What do we make now?!?
julzabro 2 years ago