Re: Re: Is the Roman Catholic Church the One True Church?

[martlut]

oh a lamo replay of Bothernrs list all bs

[trapspeed97]

Lame. You totally missed 1 Corinthians chapter 11. You don't seem to cite any sources for your claims either.

[Z1GGYK3V]

This video has no grounds. I know where you got these so called "proofs" from, an ANTI-CATHOLIC website. I can give you scripture to disprove all of those claims.

[PantheraAtrox]

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead [their] dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

[Z1GGYK3V]

7 Sacraments

Holy Baptism - Acts. 16-15 , Acts 16-33 , Matt. 28-19:

CONFIRMATION - Acts 19-6: , Heb. 6-2

THE HOLY EUCHARIST- Already explained

CONFESSION - Already explained

EXTREME UNCTION - James 5, 14-16

HOLY ORDERS - John 20, 21 2 Cor. 5-20 Titus 1-5: Acts 13, 2 and 3

Marriage - Gen.2:24 Mark 10:6-9 Jn.2

[Z1GGYK3V]

The celibacy of the priesthood :

Matthew 19:10-12

1 Corinthians 7:1-9

1 Timothy 4:1-3

[Z1GGYK3V]

I can give you scriptures to disprove all of those claims. :) Those are traditions implied and said in the Bible.

[PantheraAtrox]

Isa 59:16 And he saw that [there was] no man, and wondered that [there was] no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.

[PantheraAtrox]

Hbr 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

[tolynette]

This is great! Thanks for posting this!

[sebreathnach]

The Pope meets Old Nazi Comrade

Pope: In the face of all this overwhelming worldwide pedophelia, what is the Vatican to do?

Nazi Comrade : Hmm? Blame the Jews?

[manutdfan4321]

1215 AD transbustantation formed? that is an absolute joke. transbustation was a major believe of the early church, Ignatius tought it in 110 AD ( student of John the apostle by the way) what do you think the breaking of bread means in the as well as confession thats what confessing your sins to one another meant was well. Read the early church fathers for yourself.

[Athiesttimmy]

Hahahahah are you all in brainwashed denial?!?! How can you have the true church?! You all think the same god jesus pervs running it. All your religions are the same when it comes down to it

[ssszar]

lol as a catholic ive never had to kiss the popes foot before, thats a new one i wonder where you got that one from, oh and priests can be married its just not allowed in the roman rite, in some eastern rites it is, so i take it you dont believe in the 7 sacraments icluding baptism and marriage?

[gqathlete]

Where does it say 7 sacraments in the bible?

[ssszar]

well there is any one verse that says "these are the seven sacraments" but you can find all the sacraments in the bible

[thrufaithalone]

Could you point out to me the verses that refer to "extreme unction", "confirmation", "confession" and "Holy Orders" as the Catholic church performs them?

[ssszar]

extreme unction- james 5 14-15, confermation acts 8 14-17 9-17 19-6 also Hebrews 6-2 confession, john 20 21-23, and holy orders, again john 20 21-23 also matthew 20 18-19

[thrufaithalone]

ssszar-James 5:14-15 is prayer for healing of the sick not preparation for death.

In Jn20:22-23 Jesus wasn't speaking only apostles but to all of His disciples; the same group He would tell to wait until they had received the Holy Spirit. Give an example in Scripture of RC's practice of confession. The verses you provide for confirmation seem to have little to do with Catholicism's practice of confirming 8-12 year old children (I was one of those)

[ssszar]

in regards to you first comment abu james, the sacramen i meant for a person who is gravly ill, otherwise the priests would not have to go to the sick person, and in john, yes jesus was talking to his disciples that were in the room with him, and christ is telling them whose sins you forgive they are forgiven and whose sins you retain they are retained, in acts 8 you see christians who had been baptized but had not received the holy spirit

[thrufaithalone]

ssszar-I don't think you understand what "Extreme Unction" is about-it's preparation for death-not for healing. James 5:14-15 has absolutely nothing to do with "Extreme Unction"

Also Jesus' disciples included more than the 12 Apostles-they were not only men. When Jesus said "whose sins you forgive they are forgiven and whose sins you retain they are retained" it was to all the disciples-all believers can tell others based on their acceptance of Christ's sacrificial death, that they are 4givn

[ssszar]

extreme unction is meant for someone who is gravely ill, its not that hard to understand, and james 5 does speak of extreme unction,"is any man sick among you? let him bring in the priests of the church and let them pray over him anointing him with oil in the name of the lord" thats excactly what the sacrament is, and yes jesus had many disciples but if you read john 20 you see that jesus is not talking to all of them just those who happen to be in the room with him, you and i cannot forgive sin

[angrymeow]

itsw so funny how you added AS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PERFORMS THEM HAHAHAH

[thrufaithalone]

I believe it should be the Pope's ring - it is also tradition to kiss the foot of the supposed statue of "St. Peter"

[ssszar]

thats news to me, if i i would be required to kiss the pope's ring it would be out of respect to who he is, in the same way you salute an officer in the military, and in my 22 years of being catholic ive never been required to kiss any statues

[gqathlete]

it is also tradition to kiss the foot of the supposed statue of "St. Peter"

Why would you do that?

[thrufaithalone]

"it is also tradition to kiss the foot of the supposed statue of "St. Peter""

You are right, it is. On pg 75 of Roger Oakland's book "New Wine and the Babylonian Vine" it has a photo of the now mis-shapen foot. He states "The foot has been worn by the millions of pilgrims who have touched or kissed the statue hoping to receive a blessing from God."

[thrufaithalone]

I'm sorry, I just realized you were quoting me (I was adressing your statement 31 seconds in the video-sorry for the confusion)

[gqathlete]

No confusion, Im hearing ya and agree with ya all the way! But I cant find the comment I was responding to!

[thrufaithalone]

Not a problem - I have the same problem much of the time:)

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Prayers for the Dead

Tobit 12:12; 2 Macc 12:39-45; 1 Cor 15:29; 2 Tim 1:16-18.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Dead Saints Are Aware of Earthly Affairs

Mt 22:30 w/ Lk 15:7,10 & 1 Cor 4:9; Heb 12:1.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Dead Saints Intercede For Those On Earth

Jer 15:1; 2 Macc 15:14; Rev 6:9-10.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Intercessory Mediation of Saints and Angels

Tobit 12:12-15; Rev 5:8 and 8:3-4.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Dead Saints Appear On Earth to Interact With Men

1 Sam 28:12-15 with Ecclesiasticus 46:20; 2 Macc 15:13-16; Mt 17:1-3 and 27:50-53; Rev 11:3.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Guardian Angels

Ps 34:7; 91:11; Mt 18:10; Acts 12:15; Heb 1:14.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Angels Are Aware of Our Thoughts

Lk 15:10; 1 Cor 4:9.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Angels Participate In the Giving of God's Grace

Rev 1:4.

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God":

Angel Gabriel then address Mary by saying

"Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women!" He honor Mary in a great way also an Archangel honoring a woman why is that ?

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Furthermore, when the Virgin Mary visited her cousin, St. Elizabeth

"Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost, and she cried out with a loud voice and said: 'Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the Fruit of thy womb.?'"

Once again, honor and praise is rendered to the Virgin Mary by St. Elizabeth, "who was filled with the Holy Ghost"

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete The celibacy of the priesthood :

Matthew 19:10-12

1 Corinthians 7:1-9

1 Timothy 4:1-3

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Jesus doesn't condemn the Rosary, he just says that people won't be heard for repetitions, and yes, the Rosary is repetitions. :) But it's a Meditative tool to calm you down and bring you closer to Jesus and remind you the sacrifice God made for us. :)

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete The Rosary:

Hail Mary: Luke 1:26-28

Our Father: Matthew 6:9-13

Glory Be:Revelation 1:6

Oh My Jesus: 1 John 1:9

Bible Verses

Jesus Repeating of Prayer :Luke 22:39-46 He Prayed the Pray More and More the same pray for an Hour

Rosary is Biblical Base and Grounded soo :D

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Transubstantiation

Mark 14, 22-24:

John 6-11 - 26

John 6, 33:- 51

John 6, 52:-58 Protestant Reaction

Jesus had the power to turn water into wine, then he also had the Power threw his Priest and By the Holy Spirit to turn Bread into His own Flesh

[Z1GGYK3V]

@gqathlete Confession of sin to the priest

John 20: 22-23 Jesus own words and by the Holy spirit they can forgive sins of other and do Miracles

[FccB11]

Praise Jesus Christ!!!!

[OneTrueChurch]

How about you actually do some real research rather than look at anticatholic websites which have been refuted time and time again. None of thoes teachings were invented on thoes dates.

[gqathlete]

Oh I done my research, I used to be Catholic until I studied the bible!!!!!! You do pray to Mary and saints, you do go to a priest for forgiveness of sins and so on.... I'm not lying!

[OneTrueChurch]

i dont deny prayers to the saints or confession to a priest. what i deny is the idea that these were invented later on. since it can be proven that teh early christians practiced these teachings. look at seltian's video response. he tells the truth

[gqathlete]

You think thats a good response?

[OneTrueChurch]

better than yours

[PantheraAtrox]

@OneTrueChurch, Christ clearly taught us how to pray and to whom.

 Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly

Bless..

[mgk22]

you must not have done good research there are many secular and protestant scholars which would shoot you down for such historical inaccuracy on our church

[gqathlete]

I would like to see it!!!!!!!!!!!! Start