Sen. Joe Wilson Yells, "You Lie" During Obama Speech

[TheKramer707]

i hate obama

[tyeporter]

@TheKramer707 - let reword that.

We don't hate obama (like he hates us)

We hate everything for which obama stands...

We hate everything obama promotes and does.

obama hates us, hates our freedom, hates our country, our God and our culture.

Let's not sink to his level and hate him in return.

[TheKramer707]

@tyeporter dude your %100 rite

[5ti01qs]

Joe Wilson you are my hero.

[MrSinister84]

Privatization would make it harder for regular people who work hard but can afford it or weren't born with a silver spoon, which the insurance companies would not want them since they do not make the high amount of income that the few do. I was trying to have a intelligent conversation with you and seeing your view, but you seem make these accusations, not that I need to explain it to you but I do work hard everyday and I apologize that I have a common job that makes heathcare impossible!

[tyeporter]

@MrSinister84 - "regular" people? The average Joe works hard & doesn't want the gov't telling them how to spend their money, nor spending for them. Insurance works for the people, as gov't should. This Bill makes the people work for the gov't. If healthcare is "impossible" (a flat lie) on your income, you need to rearrange your spending or get a second job. That's what the rest of us have done. Well, almost "the rest of us". Some still want the rest of us to pay for your healthcare for you.

[MrSinister84]

@tyeporter

Yes, "regular" people. Of course people don't want them telling how to spend their money. Listen I haven't said any accusations about you or you paying for anything so please stop. Privatizing will ending up like what happened with those company's that need the bail out with there top executives being greedy and having no one to answer to. Who will they the company's answer to if they are privatize, how we will know the are running fair, and people aren't getting taken advantage of.

[tyeporter]

@MrSinister84 - privatization does not always end up in bail outs - that is not true.

Of course there are examples of greed ina free market system - or ANY system for that matter, but there is no need to regulate every instance of a free market & take it over, socializing the nation. And that is not excuse demanding that the country pay for the few who don't want to pay for themselves by stealing from the rest of us who work hard for our money - what little we have!

[MrSinister84]

@tyeporter

I agree that the bill is not perfect and should of had more time to work on and see what the people would want in it. It is more than a few since people want it reformed. I agree, with you on free market and not have it taken over by the gov, but also should not go unchecked so we don't have to bail them out with our money.

[tyeporter]

We did not have to bail them out. There was a desire on the part of obama to own part of the private sector therefore he used our money to take it over. Had we let them go under, new companies would have sprung up to fill the void, companies whose business practices were more solid. The free market is just that, free. When the gov't gets involved it cost us money tax dollars that the govt takes from us to do what it wants. This Bill was created it was written so that we would be slaves to it.

[MrSinister84]

@tyeporter

When the majority of people are the ones that need the gov, should we just listen to the rich who can afford it. Socialism is only a bad idea if your the elite few who don't need the gov, and don't really care what happens to the rest of the people. If those programs were in the private sector only the rich would have access to them and the gov wouldn't help the people who need it and can't afford the high price that only the rich can.

[tyeporter]

@MrSinister84 - neither the rich nor the poor want healthcare issued by a socialist gov't. Socialism is a bad idea for nearly 77% of this Nation, only the less than 23% who voted for obama agree with his socialist agenda and even less of that 23% wants his healthcare. The price of healthcare is as high as it is because of the gov't and obama's denial of reformation. Once we get the gov't out, the costs will start to go down.

[MrSinister84]

@tyeporter

I will agree its not perfect, but do the republicans have a better options besides privatization it. What did bush do when they were in power? they just gave the insurance companies and rich tax cuts.

[tyeporter]

There are no better options than privatization! The gov't should not be in the social program biz, govt is the leading reason for the high costs of each program. Bush tried to cut out social programs, tried to set other reforms that would have drastically cut costs. You have a big issue with those who have money. You sound like somebody who doesn't want to work for himself; like somebody who wants this healthcare because it forces somebody who works for a living (me) to pay for your healthcare.

[MrSinister84]

Privatization would make it harder for regular people who work hard but can afford it or weren't born with a silver spoon, which the insurance companies would not want them since they do not make the high amount of income that the few do. I was trying to have a intelligent conversation with you and seeing your view, but you seem make these accusations, not that I need to explain it to you but I do work hard everyday and I apologize that I have a common job that makes heathcare impossible!

[MrSinister84]

@tyeporter

Yeah, bad idea everyone covered lol who wants that, maybe people who can't afford it and the sick.. I guess unless your the insurance companies or the rich, Bushes reforms are a good idea. And wasn't he the one with the bright idea of privatizing Social Security lol. Yeah, socialism a gov that helps its citizens instead of not doing anything for them, who wants that lol

[tyeporter]

@MrSinister84 - yes, it is a bad idea to force everybody to participate in a social program; both healthcare & social security. These are programs that have no place in the gov't - these are private sector programs. Socialism helps those who can't help themselves and hates those who can. It removes freedoms and "spreads the wealth".

[MrSinister84]

I think this is the same guy that yelled you lie to then president bush jr, when no one found the wmd that caused us to go to war. Oh, wait no he didn't guess he wasn't there lol.

[tyeporter]

@MrSinister84 - LOL!

You know, the liberals did that all the time during the last Administration.

And they used far more vulgar language.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they are whining!

[MrSinister84]

@tyeporter

Yeah, because Bush Jr was such an intelligent President lol he didn't even try to solve health care and obama just wants everyone to be covered. Damn liberals lol, conservatives.

[tyeporter]

@MrSinister84 - You got one part of that right - Obama just wants socialism / everybody covered. He doesn't care about "healthcare" or healthcare reform. Bush & conservatives have been trying to reform and cut healthcare costs for at least the last two decades that I can personally recall. Tort reform has been met with fierce resistance every time it's proposed. Portability has been shot down just as often.

[voodoolife]

I am suprised Nancy could change her expression... Must have been a pre-botox day...

[22rupees]

I dont understand why former President Jimmy Carter said that people are being racist against Obama Just because we disagree with his views does NOT make us racist That just means we have our OWN opinions When Bush was President many people badmouthed him & insulted him to his face because they disagreed with his views Did anyone say they were being racist to Bush? Another thing Obama is for abortion & he will go to extreme measures to get it there even if it means lying to the American people.

[sephyboy09]

Do you know what a run-on sentence is?

[magic2magic]

Obama says no federal money will be spent on abortion, but one of the first things Obama did was to destroy years of anti-abortion laws with the stroke of his pen. Planned parenthood is still getting federal funding, but just not in this reform package.

[tyeporter]

And this Bill (3200) provides for funding for neighboring clinics.

Meaning if there is a planned parenthood (abortion mill) next to or on the campus of a college, school or federal center, etc - they can apply and receive our tax dollars.

Those "neighboring" facilities will be used to ancillary procedures and will qualify for federal funds (our tax dollars).

[Agownsrs2]

Funny how he just said "you lie" and everyone goes like "OOOOHHH". It's like high school kids lmao.

[tyeporter]

LOL, right?

Nancy gets all bent out of shape and Biden just shakes his head.

[unko05]

good grief people you know what Americas economy will not change over night and this makes people turn on the president why not take your congress men and question them about things that they will try and change the way america operates. can you everyday normal citizens got the entire population of america to side with you. can you take charge of this wonderful country and try to make a change. give the guy a break. can you clean up after president bush?

[tyeporter]

The economy may not change over night but you don't have to try to make it worse in the mean time.

We, the People ARE trying to take charge for positive change, not obama change.

[DialL4LoserS]

lol! i know i commented on this be4 but i mean that is one of the funnest things ive ever heard! joe is right though he doesnt keep his promises and obama is a lier! obama is pushing heathcare and is going to fast!

[goldeneye061493]

'you lie' about sums it up; obama has not kept any of his promises except one: 'change'. change much like that of 1984 ; history tells us that socialism doesnt work, and when you make healthcare a government run administration in which businesses cannot complete, your end result is socialism. all over the world, socialistic governments are running huge debts and have ridiculous lines and rations.

[Muddas05]

wow where was all this HATE during Bush 8 stolen years oh i forgot Obama's BLACK

[tyeporter]

Tired reply.

Nobody takes issue with Barry's skin colour.

There is nothing honourable nor respectful about the guy whether he's black or white.

In fact, many of us (myself included) voted for the only Christian on the 2008 Prez Ballot and he just happened to be darker than Barry.

So get off the race bus, it's dilapidated.

[Muddas05]

spoken like a TRUE Republican Nut Job this is y u racist hill billies are the Minority Thank GOD

[tyeporter]

Yeah, keep thanking your false gods for that even though like most liberal propaganda it's twisted fact as well.

The only place conservatives are in the minority is in Representation in the gov't.

The minority actually elected Barry, less than 23% of Americans voted for him.

Which leads us back to Barry - Liar and Deceiver.

[Muddas05]

Oh so let me guess your Praying to your GOD for his Death as well

[tyeporter]

I'm not moslum so we don't pray for the death of anybody.

Nor am I religious - I'm Christian - God does not teach us to pray for the death of those who hate Him, we pray for his salvation.

But that's good to know, that peek into your mind:

"Pray for the death of those with whom you disagree."

[Muddas05]

Didn't your Christian pastor pray 4 his Death it was ALL over the News...& U ppl are equivalent to the Nut Job Taliban Grp. I see no Difference btwn any of u. by the way Muslim didnt Knock down the Towers Bush Did & his Father did 9/11 Truth

[tyeporter]

No Christian Pastor prays for the death of somebody because we disagreed with them idealogically.

LOL

Your last line was the icing on the cake of your categorization.

You're one of those extreme left wing nutters who believe in the French conspiracy that the Bushes were responsible for 9/11!

You're even worse and more whacked out than Obama and his happy campers.

[tjovan94]

Sen. Joe Wilson should not have said that because...

A.Its your president

B.Its called common respect

C.Also no grown man should act like that

[tyeporter]

A) He illegally occupies that position.

B) Common implies that he holds any respect for us. Lying and destroying our Country illustrates his lack of ANY respect for us - utter contempt.

C) Every grown man has the right to a freedom of speech and expression.

He excercised his freedom at the precise moment it was required.

[joein1972]

Great Joe Wilson Obama is the biggest liar of all time

[tick368]

go joe wilson smartest man in the usa right now did u see the look on naey pelosi's face XD pricless

[500knots]

These are the times when OPEN dialog is needed. The UK has been acting like this for years! Why are we so shocked? Do we NOT want checks and ballances? Are men not free to speak their minds? Isn't the House the EXACT "time and place" for debate? Look, Obama is NOT a king for people to kiss his ring and bow ... he is an elected official ... working for YOU AND ME. It is perfectly fair to tell him what you think ... and an address to congress is the perfect place to do it.

[jabo2121]

i have great healthcare cov. where i work and have had for years. but i know as it is now if i had a major illness they could drop me like a hot potato. evry year when i get a cost of living raise i never see it because there is always an increase in the healthcare premiums but the coverage does'nt increase, it decreases. i dont won't to be choosing between food and medicines when im 65 years old like my mother had to as many senior citizens do. you just gave billions to the rich now help v poor

[tyeporter]

So you'd rather be forced to pay for my healthcare from your own pocket?

If I'm going to be given "free" healthcare and tax refunds "Welfare" - the only way to make these truly free is for me to stop working.

Why should I work, I get free healthcare (you pay for me) and I get welfare (you pay for me to do nothing).

You can pay my premium increases - thank you.

[jabo2121]

he did'nt lie! its in the bill as he said but the enforcement of it has not been worked out. sure repub/conservatives want change, just enough to keep them in office and without any loss of the mega profits there big business buddies are make off of us, the average citizen. why is it when a president tries to do somthing for the people instead of his big business buddies we try to run him down for. whether its the best plan or not at least he is trying to do somthing that is good and right.

[tyeporter]

Because Barry isn't trying to do anything good for the people, yet.

Good and Right is impossible for somebody who shows his love for a nation by committing genocide of its population (abortion).

The ob AMA plan allows for the Hyde Ammendment to expire and provides for abortion mills to request and receive federal monies for their "healthcare" operations.

[bebigness]

Rpublicans are stupid and fat.

[BenjaminWirtz]

wow, what brilliant evidence for your argument.

[tyeporter]

LOL

Me, probably.

I'm fat and stupid - but at least I'm not lazy and ignorant (liberal/democrat reference!)

[cjp1010]

joe wilson is the f'ing man. i hope he runs in 2012 cause you can bet he'll get my vote

[KoruKinshi]

Heh, my response would've been:

"And you don't?"

[Lothielailin]

It's OK to disagree, but this was neither the time or place for that accusation. It was disrespectful.

[imaseraph]

That's completely not true. Back then Tax collectors were ALLOWED to charge what they wanted. You don't think there was stealing then? You are very Naive. Give to Ceaser what is his and for you to not call me a Christian is wrong. We do not pray against flesh and blood but against the principalities and the ruler of darkness. For you to call someone evil is wrong. Even god says so. We hate only one, we hate Satan. We hate no man. Judge not or lest be judged and it holds true in your case.

[tyeporter]

Tax collectors were held accountable by the Roman citizens. Paul was a citizen, do you think he would have let a dishonest tax collector have his way with him?

Don't take the scripture out of context by only using one verse in a chapter and you'll see that both of your examples are misleading.

We are called to both judge each other righteously and to shine the light on evil works and call out those who are evil.

God even called those who choose to deny Him, His enemies: evil and full of hate.

[dend1]

President is giving a speech. Wilson's actions are unacceptable

[tyeporter]

Then when we are speaking with you we'll use the same twist:

Barry was giving a Speech. Wilson's expression of his free speech was Just.

[601emilygrace]

Someone finally took a stand..... Maybe not the right time, but maybe he had to do it then to get the attention of all Americans. It's our country not just the elected people.

[tanto1948]

601emilygrace......Very good comment! I'm with you 100%. Yes, it is our country not just the elected people and its time they learn that starting with that "useless" Pelosi........Amen.

[Duseldorf1103]

I agree. It's kinda wrong though. But yet, i agree.

I LOL'd at Bidens fail shake

[ennpencilpal91]

As for Senator Wilson saying, "You lie!" It was definitely not the right time to do that, but none of us are perfect and we can't expect a Senator to be either. I'm not excusing him, I'm just explaining his actions as it was probably spur-of-the-moment.

As for the comment made, Obama actually did lie, to put it bluntly. Again, it shouldn't have been screamed during the speech, but it was true all the same. Illegal immagrants will be covered. I believe it says that one outright.

[ennpencilpal91]

"The truth is hate those who hate the truth."

That quote embodies exactly the outlook of the terrorists. The truth is an incredibly vague thing that can normally only be defined on a person-to-person basis. This quote is absolutely and positively the exact oposite of the American outlook. You should hate no one, only their actions, and the lies that they want to believe.

[tyeporter]

If you consider Christians terrorists and us speaking the Word of God to be the absolute opposite of the American outlook, then you've understood the quote.

But you would be absolutely wrong.

The Word of God is the Truth and those who hate His Word hate the truth.

The truth is hate to those who hate the truth.

[JakeCKrug]

Cost of voter backlash = $1,000,000

Biden's face = priceless.

Here's to you, Lady Liberty! A slap in the face courtesy of Joe Wilson. As if South Carolina needed anything else to happen.

[biancatheoriginal]

haha wow i heard about this in my history class yesterday...

pretty disrespectful if you ask me...

and immature.

[tyeporter]

Miss Bianca, which do you believe is more respectful, deceiving the nation for one's own gain or to call out the liar who just called you a liar for speaking the truth?

obama had just called Wilson and other Americans who oppose his healthcare plan, liars.

He said he would call out the liars - Wilson just beat him to the punch!

[Gordondon]

so true, it was like middle school again.

[prayupblessings]

So many chiefs and not enough indians. The commander-in-chief is President Obama for those that seldom forget. Disrespecting others or yourself tells alot about a man's character.

[tyeporter]

That Wilson had the Spirit and courage to call out obama, tells much about his character.

We're not taught to cow to titles and honouraries.

In this Country, we're all supposed to be equal.

While his illgotten "position" entitles him to a modicum of respect, his actions earned him the lack that he receives.

I've none for a man who stands in front of the Nation and stabs us in the back while looking us in the eye and smiling - telling lies the whole time.

[dwb7467]

obama is lying and that congress man should not have apologized all those other congress man that also agree should stand up against the bill also

[imaseraph]

Honestly you are misleading people... really. You gain the biggest punishment from misleading a flock.

[imaseraph]

You claim socialism, healthcare, and taxes are sins against god... "Caesar's," they replied. Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's.". So that proves that taxes are a sin, really man. You will be held accountable to how you lead a flock.

[tyeporter]

When Ceasar sets a tax and God said give unto him what is his, He did not also instruct us to take that to the Nth degre and steal as much as we can under the guise of taxes and nisquoted Scripture out of context.

I don't lead the body/flock, I warn them from those who lead them away from the truth.

[imaseraph]

LOL, I am very much a Democrat and a Christian. I disagree with republican ways. You also need to understand that I don't agree everything a democrat has to offer but I do support more democrat views than republican views. Republicans are very hungry for money and that honestly makes me down right sick.

[tyeporter]

Yet Conservatives are for tax cuts (which obama let expire), we're for smaller gov't (which obama has increased), we're for decreased spending (obama has increased) and we cut budgets and deficits - which obama has increased at historically record levels.

And he's only just begun.

[Muddas05]

Yeah Tax Cuts to the 1% The Rich Only & the republican raised Taxes on the middle class & poor Bush did a Terrorist attacks on the Middle Class & American Jobs we have Nothing because of him Obama just got there to clean up after your Illuminatti God Bush

[tyeporter]

Not 1% - it was a tax relief to American Businesses who employ Americans and who now loose revenue to taxes that could have gone to employees and the economy.

So much for "economic stimulation."

Middle class tax increases were not as severe (.05%) and raised more revenue than that 11% will.

Barry is not cleaning up, he's making the mess.

Our great grandkids are going to have a hard time cleaning up.

[Kyleohio5]

Let me help out the stupid, who haven't looked at the Bill, claim they have, and then claim to have informed opinions.

PAGE 143, HR 3200

SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments

for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are

not lawfully present in the United States.

OUCH!!!!

[victoryxfailure]

Now if I said that Wilson was being hot headed and lost control, I might get some feedback. If I said that it was a mistake, I might get a bit more. But the truth being, Senator Wilson is pretty much known for being very anti-immigrant in his stands. What he said just contains a fraction of what his real thoughts are. SOMEONE doesn't believe in Obama. Obviously.

[tyeporter]

Wilson, like all Americans is anti illegal immigration.

[victoryxfailure]

Well I never said that there WERE Americans that wave around flags at illegal immigrants. But I think that we should think for a second and try and specify the type of illegal immigrants there are. For example, I myself have a permanent residence, but not citizenship. I WAS an illegal immigrant, but I didn't cross the border from Mexico or anything like that, it was on a plane, and we just didn't get permanent residence visas for a long time. Do you think Wilson is against immigrants like us?

[tyeporter]

I think the LAW of this Country is against those who break that law, whether they are crossing the border (invading) or letting their visas expire.

There are those who immigrate legally and to watch their expense and dedication get thwarted by others who get away with breaking the law and are rewarded for those transgressions...

[tyeporter]

Conservatives want change, just not the negative, perverse change that Barry has brought on this country at historical costs.

[jabo2121]

of course the asshole from S.C does;nt want reform, not when he and many other republicans are in the pocket of the big insurance companies. wake up america!

[tyeporter]

@Jabo - actually, Conservatives have been proposing reforms for years.

Reforms against which liberals/democrats have been voting for years as well.

We want actual reform that will save us money and cut spending.

Tort reform, getting the gov't out of the healthcare biz, etc.

The reforms that Conservatives have countered with would cut more than $2 trillion a year.

The ob AMA healthcare plan will increase our national debt by $9 trillion by the end of 2012.

[Kyleohio5]

Its like you think you can throw out any bs numbers that you want. No wonder you guys are a minority blip on the radar... Keep lying, we keep winning.

[tyeporter]

And that's why your "leader/representative/messiah­" is up at the podium lying in this speech.

Because y'all believe in bogus numbers & lies.

[imaseraph]

Conservatives got us here in the first place.

[tyeporter]

Of course we did.

Conservatives brought this Country to its great status, founded this country on God's values, morals and truths.

Conservatives brought us our freedoms and independence.

All in spite of liberal efforts at socialism, bankruptcy and perversion.

[leonhaxor666]

what a douche, this reminds me when a woman called obama a nazi on cape cod news. people just want to call him a N***** and even my parents agree

[tyeporter]

Sounds like Nancy Pelosi.

She's called all Americans/Conservatives who oppose this socialist plan, Nazis.

[JcM944]

lmao this made history. The new meme is going to be "You LIE"

[hefeltbad]

Its about time somebody stood up to this N.W.O scum puppet

[stewman65]

serenade121, You can take science if you wish. Just as long as you know that science is faulty in the theory of evolution and the big bang. The true definition of science is Something that can be recreated. The Big Bang and Evolution have never been proven or recreated so in the end you need faith to believe in those two events, faith without proof and this make science YOUR religion. Sorry bud, but you do believe in a god and its name is science.

[stewman65]

serenade121, You call God a dictator because he created everything and had a plan for everything that he created BUT he does not make you do anything that you dont want to do, he only gives suggestions. How is this being a dictator Do dictators give suggestions or demands???? Please read the bible before trying to preach it to me, OK!!!

[nicktheman2]

LOL @ you for believing in god.

[WhiskeyBlade]

Thats funny......

[imaseraph]

Alright so the economy was booming when Clinton was in office... Bush comes into office, does a couple of cuts, changes a couple of laws, and it drops through the floor. You are giving off a very uninformed biased decision.

[stewman65]

I didn't call you ignorant, I called you arrogant. Hypocrisy is when you say one thing and then do another.... Nothing to do with my post, nothing at all!!!

[stewman65]

serenade121, can you prove anything that you just wrote or is this just "YOUR" opinion. You are welcome to have an opinion, of course, but when you put down the opinions of others and elevate your own without proof then that is just arrogant. 95% of the world believes in a higher power or "God". When someone like you tries to belittle 95% of the worlds population, thats just unwarranted arrogance.

[imaseraph]

BTW I am a democrat and a God fearing Christian. I absolutely have no interest in lowering taxes or helping big business. Therefore in good conscience cannot be republican. You give to Ceaser what is Ceasars and give god what is gods. Thus is what is said in the bible. As far as abortion we have not one right to judge what can be done. We can't, if you do, you are sinning yourself. You can voice your opinion. God gave us free will for a reason.

[tyeporter]

That's an oxymoron, imaseraph.

You cannot be a "democrat" and a Christian.

Democrats believe and support things which contradict God and His Word.

Abortion, homosexuality, heatlhcare/theft/taxes, socialism, etc - all sins against which God speaks and tin the bible.

If you truly feared God (Jesus Christ) then you'd agree with Him and not support that which He hates.

[victoryxfailure]

OF course, I'd like to point out that there's two types of christianity out there too. The one that's a bit more conservative, sticking to the old rules and believing the bible face to face, and then the liberal churches, which believe in audacious things such as "God saves anyone and everyone, it doesn't matter who you are". Oddly enough, most republicans believe that God saves people too, just not those stated above. I'll let people argue out which one they think is correct or so.

[tyeporter]

Unlike those liberal anti-Biblical churches who believe God loves sin - Christians know that God loves everybody and died for all sin that everybody may be saved.

But that not all accept this gift and choose instead to love and live in sin - in contradiction to God.

That sets Christians aparts from liberals/democrats.

The fact that we love/believe in Jesus Christ.

[victoryxfailure]

So by stating that, you're basically saying it's impossible to be Christian and a democrat, unless you're a more conservative democrat, but that would just make you a moderate.

[tyeporter]

We were all once sinners but some became saved.

We can no longer be labeled "lost" because we've been found and have inherited the Kingdom.

A Democrat who comes to Christ/God becomes a conservative.

I didn't say "republican" but conservative.

Democrats support sin while God and His followers do not.

[BigHectorn]

WOW! thats hardcore wether you believe support him or not

[cutelittlegirldog]

serenade121,

Doesn't matter what you believe, or what you think you know... all your foolishness and talkin' smack isn't gonna change the truth. God is real. You WILL meet Him on the day you die. God is not to be mocked. I'm just giving it to you straight. He wants you to know Him more. He cares about you. If you seek Him, you'll find Him. If you reject Him, you'll be rejected from heaven. Choice is up to you...where will you spend eternity? Smoking or non-smoking?!

[imaseraph]

Sad part of this is that we can't move forward because of people like this. Actually read the bill, please. I plead to you before you make any comments like you know it all. Sad part is, this bill is going to get passed if you like it or not because we don't need a single republican vote since democrats have the majority and republicans don't have enough to filibuster. So enjoy your public plan.

[tyeporter]

@imaseraph:

You're exactly right, Barry/obama needs to have read his own ob AMA healthcare proposal (HR 3200) before he makes all of these false comments.

The "lies" for which he was called out during his speech.

[cutelittlegirldog]

Whoa, take it easy, serenade121! You need to understand something. FYI... Christ rules over ALL, including politics! He's not just about religion. He created heaven and earth, He's your Maker, and He made every politician! God is ALWAYS right. and He's present in EVERY subject! I wouldn't be running my mouth off about what God's in and isn't in! He even knows when He'll let you take your last breath, so go read your Bible and get to know the One who loves you and died for your sins.

[tyeporter]

God no, Serenade121.

I'm not a democrat.

I'm a God fearing patriotic, American.

That makes me a Conservative.

[tyeporter]

LOL

No wonder you like Barry so much.

Thanks for that explaination.

[Idiotequeish]

tye...you my friend are a religious nut job and this great nation has nothing to do with your so called God. Sad...

[tyeporter]

I hate religion.

This Country was founded on the belief in God/Jesus Christ.

Today, this "great nation" is but a shadow of what she was.

That said, we can't give up our roots and become the deviants that men like obama want us all to be.

But thank you Idiote - for the compliment.

I am a Jesus Freak (religious nut to YOU)

:D

[lilcantoneseboi]

Seriously, cut it with the religion crap, everyone one has their own beliefs and is entitled to their own opinions. And, if you're a child of God then respect his ways and acknowledge the fact that not everyone has the same beliefs. Trying to cram your religion down everyone's throat just makes religion look so much more stupid... I'm glad that I'm an atheist. You people are so ridiculous thinking that you're saving people by going on a crusade to spread your religion all over the world.

[tyeporter]

I agree, religions (such as obama's and others like atheism) are stupid. They don't need help appearing that way.

Barry sits there and pushes his religion onto our kids, onto our Nation and onto our lives yet al you see is those pushing back in reaction?

[cutelittlegirldog]

Having said that, the Senator was disrespectful, but things get emotional when the president lies.

[tyeporter]

AMEN @ CuteLittleGirlDog

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See your inbox - I accidentally removed rather than replied to your last post.

Sorry - please repost it?

[tyeporter]

We live in a Country that is based upon the laws and belief in God, our Creator.

There is no difference between "religion and politics".

One comes from the other.

Our world views produce our political perspective.

I guess you need to live in the States to understand, sorry @serenade121

[reddbyrde]

What does Jesus have to do with this???? Stop bringing my Lord into this. He's entitled to his opinion, but the way he presented it was just plain disrespectful. I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican. I don't care if you like or dislike President Obama. This was disrespectful.

[tyeporter]

As I said above, yes - normally I'd agree with you.

But Barry/Obama has soiled and disrespected these Chambers and this Nation so thoroughly that he's set the precedent for others to follow his example.

If you recall, Nancy Pelosi used to throw books, folders, and paper on the ground when Bush spoke.

She's drop glasses, etc.

The left has no room ro point at Wilson and call him out.

[reddbyrde]

That makes Nancy just as disrespectful. You don't have to agree to respect someone's difference of opinion. He was being rude & so was Nancy. It's childish. I don't want anyone representing me that can't control their emotions any better than that... that includes Nancy.

[mkrobinson95]

This is nothing like the British Parliament ... they really go at it

[GladILeft]

Tye man u are my brother in Christ but you can't be celebrating this. He was way out of line.

[josiahdallas]

I am your brother in Christ is as well. The president stood up there and lied repeatedly last night. I am glad this happened because its the truth. He lies! Would Jesus tell us to keep our mouth shut? Would Jesus Himself keep silent?

[GladILeft]

Come on. I don't usually go back and forth but come on. How does being disrespectful stop a lie? How does that make for a better situation? Come on. He acted in the flesh and we should be praying. Even if Obama does lie, like you say, we should pray for him. Condemning just makes a bigger hole. And it makes the lines blurred between Believers and the world.

[tyeporter]

Normally I'd say that this is a place to observe respect and decorum for a man who claims to be the Prez.

But you heard his speech.

I'm surpised that more men were not convicted by The Spirit to stand up and rebuke his deception of this God fearing Nation.

I don't "condone" it per se but I understand why so I don't condemn it either.

I love you Brother Glad - thanks for the comment.

REJOICE!

[GladILeft]

It is a place for respect. Come on brother. Time for prayer; not uplifting disrectful for someone you don't like. Prayer changes things, not ridicule.

[tyeporter]

Glad, I agree - everyplace is an opportunity for us to ttreat each other with respect.

The Word calls us to be salt and light.

To shine a light in the dark places and expose what's done in the dark.

we can build him up and pray for him as we're called, but we're also to expose his lies, his perversion and his hatred for God.

Right?

[frycook813]

thats soooo rude just to shout that out in the middle of a speech. did he get kicked out?

[GladILeft]

The Word to Speak the truth IN LOVE. What was loving about what Wilson did? And what is loving about a believer neither condoning nor condemning what he did?

[tyeporter]

You know what, Glad?

Standing up when he did, calling a hater of God out for his sins...I condone that.

God hates sin, hates deception.

I agree with God, Glad.

What Wilson did was Right, maybe the wrong place but the Right thing to do.

Now we pray fir Wilson to have strength to stand up to others who hate God, who will condemn him.

And we pray for obama's repentence of his hatred of God, that he turns and comes to God/Jesus and turns and works to undo all the evil he's imposed on us.

[Gordondon]

Well all I can say is get used to President Obama he's here to stay. and is the best thing to happen to the USA since Kennedy. Praise Jesus that he has given us Obama as his hand to help us turn America into a healthy prosperous Nation again after years of republican gaffs and follies aka Bush. Praise Jesus yes indeed he works wonders.

[tyeporter]

So Jesus/God delivered to us a man who hates Him?

God gave us, to lead His people, a man who kills babies, loves homosexuality, promotes stealing from one to give to another, supports those who hate His people and a man who hates Him?

I'm trying to find the Biblical precedent for that - point me in the right direction, Gordon?

This nation was and would be healthy and prosperous again were it not for obama and his kind.

Don't thank God for obama, God hates sin not delivers it.

[Gordondon]

please provide a link to these accusations a man who kills babies, loves homosexuality, promotes stealing from one to give to another, supports those who hate His people and a man who hates Him------- He's pro choice not pro abortion big difference my friend he's not gay but tolerant to all love and will not judge, big difference SHOW me where he hates god? stealing ?? You are lead astray I will pray for you

[tyeporter]

Gordon, it's not my obligation to provide you with the research.

You as well as the rest of the world knows that he support abortion, increased taxes, healthcare and other socialist programs.

And he supports homosexuality.

These contradict God - a man can only love one master, the other he will hate.

Prochoice IS proabortion.

[KoruKinshi]

And these arguments are why I'm so glad I'm not Christian or Catholic.

[jackieshoes11]

haha here to stay? hahaha your living in a dream world. obama is going to be a one term president and you know it. his approval ratings are down to 45% and all this socialism isnt going to help him one bit.

[Gordondon]

well Jackie all I can say is YOU LIE! great come back isn't it nah seriously he'll be more popular then what the republicans can put up there. in 2012

[GladILeft]

Well, here's where we agree to disagree then. Sounds to me like more Tye than God here.

[tyeporter]

Why do you say that, Glad?

Where do the two split?