Canon Wonder Camera Concept displayed at Expo 2010

[tybruce37]

Your video is popular on Micronesia

[billconner718]

Your video is popular on Solomon Islands

[birbaldesi]

For the Panasonic wall, 4Kx2K at that size is not impressive as the commentator says. The pixel density would be so low with such large screens...

[roosswald]

Looks to me, from usability perspective, as a piece of crap, even for consumer market (common p&s much better controls). Plus it's butt-ugly.

From the tech side, it may be using (already demonstrated) variable focus technology, or whatever it's called.

Also, note that, despite the supposedly high resolution, that feather and butterfly on the backdrop are larger than human head. So it's not _that_ impressive, but looks like a nice tech development path. Still, as a product, it's just crap.

[t045tbr0t]

@roosswald you do realize it's a concept, not any sort of real, usable product current technology could build? ;)

[roosswald]

@t045tbr0t I know, they're not stupid to try to sell something like that, but it's still hideous, and concept is pretty vague and unimpressive. Maybe the whole presentation with those big screens looked nice, but I didn't really find anything innovative here.

[t045tbr0t]

@roosswald I think the innovative part is that they foresee this changing the process of taking pictures. I don't know if I like the idea of picking out the good frames from a video stream, rather than deliberately picking my shots, but it is a concept that hasn't been pushed before, I think.

Oh, and actually, a couple of days ago, JVC actually announced a camera that sounds just like the "Wonder Camera" (it's called the GC-PX10)

[roosswald]

@t045tbr0t fair enough, though I hate the potential (even further) degradation in quality of consumer snapshots this may induce (considering what crap people deem worth exposing to the world, just look at their mobile phone pics they put everywhere and think that's art), the tech may have sense, though this presentation still sucks big time. Actually the JVC cam description tells more than this whole video :)

[GamersPath]

In future we will have eye lenses that will permit shooting video and capturing still and then we will propbably store them in our brain and project them on what surronds us so that only we can see then or for public view...

[rizeljamn35]

we have panasonic touch screens in the office, pathetic performance..i hope this is better...

[xTurnipTimex]

uhmm... if everything is in focus.. shallow DOF? LOL this is definitely CONSUMER... the future of consumer.. but what about future of professional?

[jjpjimmy]

@xTurnipTimex dof can be done by algorithms (like it's already done in 3d modeling apps, eg blender/3dmax).

have you seen the news for lytro?

[travis02]

This is creepy and is a tell of what is to come with facial recognition advertising and tracking people....

[RienPromo]

i love this video

[anniechang27]

This was incredibly boring - whats this talking about 20 years away, this technology is 5 years from being on special on amazon. Love the concept though

[an4cer]

Yeah this guy is boring.,,.... plz stick to the point.... ie Canon Wonder camera.

[jeddr1]

the thing is if EVERYTHING is in focus then it will never go into pro work as everything we work towards is seriosuly shallow depth of iel, this camera has the completer opposite

[Burbclaver]

@jeddr1 You don't think it will possibly include a depth-of-field setting? Canon - "Oh, we invented a camera and everyone wants shallow DOF. Why didn't we think of that!"

[bastje]

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[sumprats]

This guy is soooooo boring, I fell asleep half way through it.

[lde2100]

I hate the future , and I definitely hate Canon!!!!!

[OceansVideo]

I wanna have one :o)

its a change like from a biface to a leather man multi tool

[ivicliff]

-canon came out with a 120 megapixel sensor.

-light field photography allows for infinite focal length, can shift depth of field and emulate any lens.

-casio now has consumer level cameras that shoot 1000fps and are very inexpensive.(the technology was developed with off the shelf parts)

-and i believe since the camera has facial recognition/augmented reality, it can basically shift the image to remane stable using point recognition.

huge mash up of today's breakthrough technology.dont doubt

[awqy2k]

wowww

[dameandrake]

ENHANCE. ENHANCE. GO TO SECTOR X24. ENHANCE.

[MadsterV]

0:55

And with it comes inmeense purchasing peaweh

XD

[nickgoodenough2]

High resolution images won't be in sharp focus from a ultra zoom lens or small sensor. There's no exponential growth in lens technology; storage, resolution, bandwidth, and other electronic tech grows exponentially. Who cares if you have a 700 megapixel sensor, there's no lens imaginable that can sharply focus on a small sensor to utilize that resolution, especially if it's a ultra zoom. The physics of light aren't going to change, just like this concept will never be actualized as shown here.

[Danfernoxx]

@verbod

I know he says that at some point, but I'm not so sure he's still talking about near the end of the vid, when he's saying HD Video is so readily available now that it might replace photography. However, I can't be bothered to actually re-view the vid, so I'll concede that it may be a figment of my imagination.

The comment of amonkeyinmypocket seems to reinforce my ideas, though.

[amonkeyinmypocket]

This video makes some pretty nonsense postulations. Super HD video making still photography obsolete? What? Video and still photography are two entirely different mediums. That's like saying animation will make illustration obsolete. I don't doubt that the technologies will merge, making both available in one unit ... but one making the other obsolete seems ridiculous.

[LeeOades]

I enjoyed the critique, thanks mate.

One of the keys to beautiful photography is creative control of depth of field. If everything was captured with depth information too, then that could presumably be accurately simulated. I was also interesting (and refreshing) to see that it hadn't just got on the 3D bandwagon like everything else at the moment - although I wouldn't be surprised if it got on it in the end.

[UgoIgo]

I'm impressed and looking forward to one that is not the siize of even a mini bazoooka...hahaaa U must be from my generation group of wartime Anzuk days... anyway, I could perfectly comprehend your verbal clarity and appreciate your effort to keep up with the fast changing times and the mega lenses of multi folded pxels also n the increase for our apetite. TQ for clip, it now gives me time to save for it, even if it may cost 5000 Euros when it hits the market under the anticipated decade or two.

[SoundEmperor1]

Dude, your vocal inflections are like non-existent. Very boring to listen to. Couldn't make make through the whole video.

[MrSuspiciousOne]

This is the future. I've been saying this (to anyone who'll listen) for years. :-)

Motion and still image cameras will merge (as they are starting to now) and we'll soon need just one camera to fulfill a families 'photographic' needs.

Make it simple to use so mum can use it and juniors sports days or the daughters horse riding lessons will be captured in stills and video for posterity.

[Zelabaz]

True...this guys voice is annoying his gurgurating not speaking!

[Danfernoxx]

@verbod

I'm pretty sure that's not what he means, but ok.

[verbod]

@Danfernoxx

this is exactly what he says.

[jr74mx]

what about light? Has it got more advanced in the last million years? C'mon..

[Danfernoxx]

I don't see video replacing photo's, why? Because people are lazy and it takes aaaaaages to watch a video, whereas a photo can be overviewed in less than a second.

[verbod]

@Danfernoxx

you dont get it. You choose your picture from the video.

[IgnoredComment]

i was looking for canon 5D mark 2 video, because i was going to buy 1

This video killed my to be 5D M 2. Just 1 thing

If they already have the camera working, why does it need another 10-20 years to be available to public?

[JaredxHolt]

@IgnoredComment

They need to perfect the technology before they release something like this to the public. No way are they just going to come out next week with the "perfect camera".

If this thing makes it to market, its time for me to shred my business cards.

[cannoir]

@JaredxHolt at the end of the day it will just shoot videos and stills.they just tweak the ergonomy and the overal design.Vodafone invited this sorta flat wrist phone and a sort of thin paper-like digital navigator.the web site was up and all and they killed off the product.80% of those products do not have real purposes.they are just a cool function.

[stadtkindbln]

@IgnoredComment because right now the technology would cost like 10 million bucks or something and that's not really the price the avarage consumer can afford.

[kepukaii]

I feel like that crowd of japanese people had no idea where they were or what was going out they were just jumping around and waiving the whole time.

[Bananananananananify]

@kepukaii

It's at the Shanghai world expo, it was presented in Mandarin. Most of the people there were Chinese.

But I guess you're going to tell me that they all look the same.

[kepukaii]

@Bananananananananify

Why would i tell you that? Japanese and chinese people look very different

[cannoir]

To a certain extend they do.but they are no clones.Italians also "look alike".

if they had done the same expo in hong kong it woulda been in Cantonese.aren't the HK chinese fighting to keep their Canto alive these days.

[jojopet]

Very in-depth thanks for sharing

[makofoto]

... yet the hot thing these days is Very Limited Depth of Field, ie. large sensors with fast lenses ... allowing one to "concentrate" on a thin slice of ones field of view.

[Yoshi25688]

Everything being in focus would be great for 3D because when I watch 3D and look at something that is being blurred as it is not the main focus, my eyes really strain. This wasn't a problem when I watched Toy Story 3, but I think because it is animated. dunno

[mattym00]

@Yoshi25688 this might be because toy story 3 was rendered in 3 dimensions. being the nature of the way animated movies are made now.

filming movies in real life requires focusing cameras. perhaps this loss of depth in some cases makes it hard on your eyes.

[RienVesseur]

I've already stopped printing photos on paper years ago, I already shoot hundreds of pictures in a week to select the best ones and discard the rest and I already use a hyperzoom combined with a high ISO sensitivity 24 Megapixel camera to be able to crop what I need out of the shot and discard the rest. And I do wish I had HD Video in it. So to me it feels that Canon has nailed it in many ways, though definitely not all. The functions I never use: Automatic Setting and Face and Smile Recognition

[BigMTBrain]

The only thing lacking in this vision is 3D, but I'm sure it will be by default.

[scaremenga]

:50, I Love SH?

[jianson870621]

oh man.. something like this in CCTV..plus AI search and monitoring.. damn!

[photoboynyc]

Ummmmm...have you ever thought that just MAYBE having everything in focus is not what a photographer would want? And has Canon figured out how to fire my strobes with all those continuous frames of a moving image? And not for nuthin', but what consumers sometimes want is quite often hardly what consumers really need!

[theonetralewolf]

@photoboynyc word up. Or maybe the camera has a Bokeh mode. And touch controls are NOT an improvement. I thought digital encoder ring zooming was a pain but touch zooming?! " Oh damn, I can't zoom, I'm wearing gloves. . ."

[rg0057]

OK. Can they make one that runs on CO2?

[guillealv]

i agree. i definitely need:

zoom 10-1000mm. aperture f .95 throughout the range.

iso up to 26843545600

and a resolution of 75Gpix

my 10x15cm photos are going to look gorgeous!

[neelstargazer0810]

your thoughts are good.

[Bosingr]

OK everybody, my bad on this misattributed Bill Gates quote about 64K or 640K memory back in 1981. I was a victim of misinformation like everyone else.

As for future cameras 10-20+ years from now, no doubt the video & any image stills, which will all be super high def probably will require enormous amounts of memory. That is certain.

[helgenx]

Wow, that looks like the Canon Autoboy Jet... (Or Canon Photura.) I actually own one...

[mikepalomino]

So in the future, wonder cameras will look almost indistinguishable from my blow dryer? That's awesome. I'll start wearing it on my belt and yell at people waking up from a deep slumber: "Welcome to the WORLD OF TOMORROW!!!"

[alienine]

In professional photography the number of mega-pixels isn't an issue anymore, this is something used to drive consumer sales. One may not always want the full shot to be in focus. The quality of consumer photography will significantly improve with better technology, but there will always be plenty of demand for professionals. After all, a good photo isn't just about the camera.

[davefk]

Amazing idea only  It looks like a frigging hair-dryer :-)

[walsharoo]

This reminds me of the scene in Bladerunner, where he zooms into the reflection in the photo...

[hippydownhippydown]

asian girls in clothes from the future, is super future hot

[myimageshack44]

@hippydownhippydown

asian girls are super hot. FTFY

[kiezel87]

The guy commenting the video, should start sniffing coke before recording, so theres some exitement and change of tone in his voice.

[manbearpig91]

Id like to see that on my phone. With a 13mm-800mm zoom that has f/.05-f/200 nonvariable.

[toejamish]

thats pretty neat i wonder how much itll be? *cough* more than a D3x *cough*

[rezn66]

I read on Engadget that it's supposed to zoom up to 500mm... If anyone knows photography a lens that small is more than likley NOT able to zoom that far. And if it does it can't be possibly faster than f/10. (And yes, I'm a Canon user.)

[plan2fail]

@rezn66 - its a concept... the technology involved with this is supposed to take around 20 years to develop (as per the article this was linked from on engadget) but either way it has peaked my attention. hell if anything, maybe they set the bar too low. 20 years is a long time. Just look at how far we have come in the last 20 years.

[dubob1234]

@rezn66

I think you may want to research glass types - check out Fluorite after the lower ED qualities.

[FourT6and2]

What about the RED Camera? It's a video camera that records at high res and you can take stills from it that are just as good as any DSLR or Digital Medium Format cameras. I remember a photo shoot for a major publication with a bunch of spreads featuring Megan Fox that was shot with the RED Camera.

[garythegit]

"Every frame will be in focus both near and far".... that just sounds really boring. A whole area of photography is about depth of field i.e. one area is in focus while everything else is softened out. This works well for portraits where you just want your subject matter to be picked out. Only crappy cheapo p&s whith small sensors keeps everything in focus (and flat).

[rezn66]

@garythegit - agreed. It would be impossible for the aperture to be at f/16 and still have everything exposed correctly.

[timwuk]

Thanks Canon for showing me shit I cant buy for 20 years.

[S2333]

That was really interesting. However this camera is a video camera and I'm not convinced photography will disappear too soon. However that could change in 10 or 20 years when cameras of this type appear.

[ccholo]

PREVIOUSLY ON LOST...

[LakeBodom1]

@ccholo h@ h@ =))))

[Pooua]

Every frame of every video might have seemingly infinite video info, but someone still has to know to look for this information. The point of photography as art is that the photographer communicates his vision, something you might not see if you were looking at the same scene. We will be swamped with info that no one has time to digest; it's quantity over quality. Ironically, this is being sold here because it is such a huge population, not because they are exceptional photographers.

[LotharioRowe]

this guy's voice is outstanding.

[rhackin]

Is it pronounced "Jizz Mag?"

[thetooth54]

@Makoto3000 i was wondering when someone would say this, at a high distance you'll never achieve perfect clarity due to natural distortion, but i think the idea is to bring the optical quality of an SLR to consumer products as its easy to see how far behind a $400 point and shoot is compared to a $1,000 SLR lens

[ZaxCG2]

This is an amazing video. It's made me realize what the future really might look like for us.

New technology popping up aside... if we continue the algorithm of advancing current technology with 2x the power at 1/2 the size, we're going to start seeing the point where its no longer pixels-- its pigment... the size of molecules. That'd probably be pretty far in the future... but easily in my lifetime. I'm pretty blessed to be born at the start of the technology age!

[walker1054]

What did the backpack do again, was it just for battery and data storage? i cant see how it couldve helped the cam any other way which means the tech is reallyy close

[AarinHikaKao]

The ultra-zoom into the bird was pretty mindblowing for me, lol.

[damagecase13]

Pretty cool. Notice the camera is connected to a backpack of sorts. Pretty wild how it will go from a backpack to all fitting in the camera itself.

[Abebil]

Holy crap! I want this camera for vlogging! Take that shaycarl!

[avinersan]

the lens is veeeeeeerrrrryyyy small considering the focal range (even with all the innovations the lenses that are build today are mainly larger and not smaller than 10-20-.... years ago)

there are some things that are fizic constrained (and for the moment there is no way around it )

take the mega zooms from now... the quality is worst than most of the ultra compact cameras ...

photographers will not disaper because a pro photographer uses dof, post production, ideas, and many more..

[rOOmUSh]

We need camera that already separates objects to different layers, focus all or selective could be set in menu. If you shoot 3d you must have everything in focus. Serious stabilization technology is a must. Higher low light sensitivity. Ability of at least 60p 4K video capture or even full resolution. That is the future i expect.

[MrWatergatescandal]

It´s white, It´s plastic, It´s booooring. My Nikon D80 with my 200mm f2.0 is all I need :-)

[Starfires]

Like others here, I'm into bokeh and selective focus, so this is something of a non-event for me until they add those. Doubtless, this will leave the cameras of today in the dust when it emerges, though with all the steps in between it won't seem so out of place.

In fact, this could be considered a projection from what we currently value, with new features like stabilisation, digital zoom and smile-focussing being brought to their logical conclusion. The camerasof the future will surely be 3D!

[joesiu93]

I like selective focus. Guess I need an algorithm for that since everything will be in focus. Sigh.

[CBAlexQ]

Blow dryer camera! :o)

[KiranGlitch]

i dont think it will look like that - with more advanced materials being developed tomorrows camera will look more modern than that form factor!

[lapapal1]

Waiting  20 years for release..?

[pavelooof]

@selfsilent hhhh!! LOL!

[AlgisKemezys]

WOW...

[Bosingr]

@selfsilent lol Yeah, it was getting me a bit drowsy after a while.

[Bosingr]

I'd love to have a camera like that, but not sure I'd ever need a 5,0000mm tele setting on a lens. Is that 35mm full-frame equivalent? I think you could probably see the flags on the moon the astronauts left behind from here with that. lol

[8291oCrAm]

zomaigad

[Zerstorer23]

Dude's voice sounds like I'm being told something that is so secret that North Korean assassin's are now en-route to my house. IT IS AWESOME

[RyanKelly18]

Is the voice not Russell Crowe in character as Robin Hood?

[Bosingr]

@RyanKelly18 lol That's what I was thinking.

[butcher94]

а что это у девчонке на спине? Поди аккумулятор к этой камере))))

[andrewcp]

@bigdickfuck ...sounds just fine on my PortaPros.

[KyleJosephSanders]

I wish there were an EQ function on the audio for these vids.. This guys' voice is so boomy, it's annoying to listen to.

[marblewonder]

@KyleJosephSanders I wish there were an accent changer function on the audio for these vids.. This guys' voice is so Australian, it's annoying to listen to.

[thelixir715]

@marblewonder indeed got a headache after several mins

[victorinoxical]

@KyleJosephSanders Turn off the subwoofer or the bass--stereo has enough boom to it as it is. Heck even turn up the treble to tinny levels and his voice will be a tad better.

[sibrent1]

just turn down the base on your speakers or you comp. like i did. worked brilliantly!

[djonlinemoscow]

Also, if each video frame will be 1/500 exposure and sharp, we can do realtime 3D stabilization based on MEMS info, like Sony XR500, but more better. But for this we must have at least 50% free space to compensate camera movement, not 10-20% like in current sony series.

[djonlinemoscow]

Marketing buzz.

Gigapan already exist, and require many shots to make big one.

Foto from video - yes, we can now already capture 2Mpx foto from 1080p video. 20 years later will be 4xHD, so foto will be 8Mpx, this is enough. But camera must be record video not with 1/60 exposure, but at 1/120 or 1/480 exposure to make each frame clear and sharp, and after that in 'play video' make 'motion blur' by CPU. It is possible now too.

But to make foto and video noise free, there must be BIG sensors.

[05pittsd]

I doubt that this will take over photography.The way it sounds, it probably will require no real skill; so photography would still be as important as it is now. The "Wonder Camera" will probably fall in to a new catagory of HD video and taking stills out of the video.

[miha707]

Внешний вид камеры страшноватый!

[novomirr]

@miha707 да.. дизайн не впечатлил.. А вообще, интересно, какие действительно камеры будут лет через 20?

[TheJessyKShow]

very exciting!

[lisacmacdonald]

I imagine the camera lead to the "laptop in the backpack" was what was making it capable of instantly having the images she was taking appear in their demonstration much like camera tethering.

[Neosin1]

i call 50 megapixels

lol!

droooools!

[knoose]

@Neosin1 Oh goodness...why more.

[liquidfire515]

Create and sell the god of all cameras huh? lol how will canon ever make money then?

[4lantube]

@liquidfire515 indeed

[Bosingr]

"64 kilobytes is as much memory as anyone will ever need."

Bill Gates, 1981

[daniyalbasketball]

@Bosingr WOW. That is crazy. just can't really explain why.

[georgegmlol]

@Bosingr I remember back in 1970 working with a 1 megabyte mainframe computer and we were wondering what so much memory was needed for. lool

[florinmldvn82ro]

@Bosingr it was 640k... but still :))

[thomaspruzina]

@florinmldvn82ro And Gates has never said it, but still :)

[thomaspruzina]

@Bosingr Check it at wikiquotes in section ,,misattributed"

Also it was not 64 KB, but more than 500 (cca 600).

This is common bullshit, im Linux user, but I dont lie to others about Gates.

Especially I dont modify lies of others, because Im dumb enugh not to remeber or Google exact value used in lie...

[walker1054]

@Bosingr lol, watching this video alone probably used about 100,000kb of my download limit

[Zoomorg]

@Bosingr

Bill Gates is offering 1M$ to who ever can prove he said this ... any proof ?

[crispindogs4]

@Bosingr The actual quote was “640K is more memory than anyone will ever need”

This famous, oft-quoted phrase -- and variations of it -- is routinely attributed to Bill Gates, founder and chairman of Microsoft Corporation. For the record, Gates flatly denies ever having said it.

[daverayment]

@Bosingr The quote you're referring to is "640K ought to be enough for anybody" and Bill Gates never said it. It's been misattributed to him for years. It's apocryphal and searching Google for '640K Bill Gates quote' will pull up stories about it.

Back on topic, the WonderCam looks fantastic, but I feel that touch controls for zoom wouldn't be precise enough; I'd still prefer typical mechanical SLR controls. There's something tactile and involving about photography that would be lost otherwise.

[manbearpig91]

@Bosingr Oh the naivety

[aaroncohn]

@Bosingr lol, Bill Gates also said that "The internet is just a passing fad."

[nnoitra00]

visionary uhahuauha 

[GilbertGrape78]

@Bosingr I think you mean 640kb