You know how to gauge an advert's effectiveness? By how often you think of the product, or how much it makes you want the product. This ad is both artistically very sound (it's gorgeous, lets face it) but it does the damn job and makes you want (or think of) Guinness. The best ad ever, in my eyes.
From Wikipedia: "The perfect pint of Draught Guinness is the product of a "double pour", which according to the company should take 119.53 seconds. Guinness has promoted this wait with advertising campaigns such as "good things come to those who wait".
Hence the comparison to surfers waiting for the best wave. Plus, it looks really, really cool.
" He waits; that's what he does. And I tell you what: tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick... Ahab says, 'I don't care who you are, here's to your dream.' 'Here's to you, Ahab'. And the fat drummer hit the beat with all his heart. Here's to waiting."
I am a director of 16 years when I started I made no money and nearly quit then Streetspirit came out and it inspired me to carry on, I got stuck in a mundane Agency then surfer came out which inspired me to quit & join a better agency. Ive been thinking about quitting again to chase the mighty dollar in a less creative agency & I saw this ad again & its inspired me to carry on. If i can just once create something half as good as this I will be happy. Jonathan Glazer is a genius.
Jonathan Glazer is one of the best director's ever, not just for this advert though, check out the music video to Radiohead's Karma Police, and Jamiroquai's Cosmic Girl and Virtual Insanity, the latter is probably the best music video of all time, all dreamt up and directed by him
1;04 when it goes silent, where it left you with yourself, at that point you understand what you realy feel about yourself, if it feels weird lonely or gay, then you should reconsider your view, wow this is pure genius...
You cannot define the greatness of this advertisement. Men who have been waiting their whole lives to ride the perfect wave. They don't want to go too soon which would make the feeling rushed and hasty, but they do not want to go too late in order to find the real thing is not what they thought it would be. They wait and at the end it is all worth it. As they say. Good Things Come To Those Who Wait.
@NYC032 They did a documentary on the making of this ad a while back, apparently Glazer was inspired by an Illustration of the same thing in a book (May have been an Illustrated version of Moby Dick I can't remember) but it was definitely inspired by a picture in a book of pretty much the same thing
The people who really made this advert must have been the editing team. The sound cuts and flashes, black & white colour and sound fx. Excellent job - really paid off!
The advert encompasses so many things about life. Joy. Sorrow. Victory. Defeat. Determination. Courage. Teamwork. Friendship. Patience. Passion. All of that in a minute and a half. The best advert ever made. Stunning.
Spoken by Louis Mells, the voiceover comprises of passages from Moby Dick by Herman Melville. Again, the passages were chosen for the 'waiting' theme - the surfers for the wave, Captain Ahab and his crew for their search for the white whale.
He waits; that's what he does.
And I tell you what: tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick...
Ahab says, 'I don't care who you are, here's to your dream.'
'Here's to you, Ahab'.
And the fat drummer hit the beat with all his heart.
this ad is pure genius! i, like so many others, could watch it over and over again. but everyone seems to be interested in the artistic background of it and the soundtrack (which, i have to admit, i found interesting myself)
BUT
I want to know who the main character is and find out a bit more about him.... does anyone have any leads?
@rollerstains These were filmed in Hawaii, at a place called Waimei Bay. It was there where the crew had their first stroke of luck - whilst looking for a nice angle to shoot from, they met their surfer, called enigmatically, 'Rocky'. He, and three of his surfer friends were to be in the advert.
The massive waves only happen a few days each year, and so with camera equipment rigged to jetskis, helicopters and the longboards themselves, the waves were filmed.
Here's to wating : 1 hour drive into Heathrow, 90 mins at the airport, 1 hour 20 min flight, 30 mins at Dublin airport waiting for baggage and a taxi, 30 mins taxi ride to the hotel, 10 mins at hotel freshening up...20 min walk to Oliver St John O Gogarty's....5 mins at the bar to wait to get your first Guiness of the night whilst the band play "whiskey in the jar"..yes, here's to WAITING :-)
Ahab is Melville's captain in Moby Dick. This ad is pure poetry in motion. A true masterpiece of visual arts. Kudos to AMV, the best ad agency the whole world has ever known.
top of a Channel 4 poll of the 100 greatest ads, awards:a Golden lion and others, the waves filmed in Waimei Bay- Hawaii, horses- Lipizzaner Stallions from the Spanish riding school of Vienna, comprised passages taken from Herman Melville's Moby Dick
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Nightmarish, the scariest thing I've ever seen as an ad. Made me afarid of the ocean, and it didn't make want to drink a guiness, on the contrary, I'm not drinking anymore of that shit ever again. Scary stuff, artsy, unnapealing and boring at the same time.
Just the best piece of advertising on tv ever.Great work wether it be CGi or cool photography just enjoy such creative work and the visual effect is stunning.
Think I heard somewhere that foam on the top of waves is called 'white horses', so maybe the inspiration? Lots of elements involved, visual, philosophical, literary, pure genius. DRINK GUINESS!
i really av tried to like it as so many others seem too but i just cant. it's slow, boring, too philosophical. lol. budweiser advert is my favourite.=]
Great comment luannexx17! we've all changed our minds about loving this ad now because of your insightful,constructive and dazzling argument...asshole!!!
Interesting fact, the main guy in the ad wasn't actually a professional surfer but the makers found him sitting under a palm tree one afternoon and coaxed him into being in the ad, Subsequently the surf was 100% perfection that day and he ended up looking really good on the waves.
crazyoatmealmansirmiss whatever the fuck. your a spastic if u dont get it. m amazed you can use a computer and not get this, one of the best advertisements ever made......
they purposely had it 90 seconds to show that it takes that long to pour the pint of guiness, but its worth the wait just like the perfect wave the surfers waited 4.
Guinness always had the best adverts
alexmcgrotty 1 week ago
You know how to gauge an advert's effectiveness? By how often you think of the product, or how much it makes you want the product. This ad is both artistically very sound (it's gorgeous, lets face it) but it does the damn job and makes you want (or think of) Guinness. The best ad ever, in my eyes.
SteelAngelJohn 3 weeks ago
Epic commetciasdfas I cant fuckin spell you cocksuckers
emnity33 2 months ago
Best advert ever and I don't even drink Guinness
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wilandadam 2 months ago
fucking SUPERB!
that is all....
bunglebiker 3 months ago
nicee
NCSurfEsp 3 months ago
Work of art.......amazing add !
darviniusb 3 months ago
AD FOR REAL MEN
FiatObscuritas 3 months ago
whats that got to do with beer? overrated
wufrudelu 3 months ago
@wufrudelu
From Wikipedia: "The perfect pint of Draught Guinness is the product of a "double pour", which according to the company should take 119.53 seconds. Guinness has promoted this wait with advertising campaigns such as "good things come to those who wait".
Hence the comparison to surfers waiting for the best wave. Plus, it looks really, really cool.
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Iamjohntheone 4 months ago
hands down best advert ever
anubis1974 4 months ago
voted the N.o.1 best ad of all time by you the viewing public, the list was shown on channel 4's 1100 greatest series
Martyn4291 5 months ago
super ad
lintym 5 months ago
Amazing
Ihaveaids2 5 months ago
Are they quoting "Moby Dick"?
stratocaster1986able 6 months ago
@stratocaster1986able ... inspired by Moby Dick but not directly quoted from it, also from the Walter Crane's painting Neptune's Horses.
dcanmore 5 months ago
The best advert ever made. I love it.
redscally32 6 months ago
What if you're just like a thirsty dude? Hahaha
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Richestmenlist 6 months ago
For an advert from the 90s -- this was pretty sick.
ziiik0 6 months ago
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Idiot !!
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TheMTpranks 7 months ago
THE BEST THING I SAW IN MY LIFE
lunayong 8 months ago
THE BEST THAT I SEE IN MY LIFE
lunayong 8 months ago
Does anyone realize how hypnotic this ad is?
WhisperGarden 9 months ago 11
@WhisperGarden totally, heart is kinda racing right now
LegendaryIpod 3 months ago
Leftfield - Phat Planet
Droplifter 10 months ago
" He waits; that's what he does. And I tell you what: tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick... Ahab says, 'I don't care who you are, here's to your dream.' 'Here's to you, Ahab'. And the fat drummer hit the beat with all his heart. Here's to waiting."
HITDraverkid 10 months ago 2
best advert ever
valiswaverider 10 months ago
Tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick. Wonderful.
Ihaveaids2 10 months ago
wow, dramatic.actiony. i love it!
hannah050597 11 months ago
I am a director of 16 years when I started I made no money and nearly quit then Streetspirit came out and it inspired me to carry on, I got stuck in a mundane Agency then surfer came out which inspired me to quit & join a better agency. Ive been thinking about quitting again to chase the mighty dollar in a less creative agency & I saw this ad again & its inspired me to carry on. If i can just once create something half as good as this I will be happy. Jonathan Glazer is a genius.
simonjameslee123 1 year ago
crap teeth,pot belly and baggy knickers.
Great add for guinness LOL!
shinymoon5 1 year ago
@shinymoon5 What the horses?
osoworthy1 10 months ago
Poseidon - God of water and surfaces... horses are sacred to him. His chariot is pulled by horses...
Alex9fromWI9 10 months ago
i remeber this advert
powdermannnnreturns 1 year ago
Jonathan Glazer is one of the best director's ever, not just for this advert though, check out the music video to Radiohead's Karma Police, and Jamiroquai's Cosmic Girl and Virtual Insanity, the latter is probably the best music video of all time, all dreamt up and directed by him
danathor99 1 year ago
This is what you feel when you taste Guinness.
olliekor 1 year ago
Talk about overrated...
VictimOfBoredom 1 year ago
@VictimOfBoredom ?
irishswag50 11 months ago
I don't like this ad. I guess its just "too deep" for me.
wiseye61 1 year ago
@wiseye61
lol too deep? how?
simplelife88393 1 year ago
The best 92 seconds of video we'll ever see.
Droplifter 1 year ago 2
1;04 when it goes silent, where it left you with yourself, at that point you understand what you realy feel about yourself, if it feels weird lonely or gay, then you should reconsider your view, wow this is pure genius...
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margretbarjghrts 1 year ago
I never understood this advert but since becoming a bar man I now understand it. It takes fucking ages to pour a pint of Guinness!
JDWilson92 1 year ago 3
@JDWilson92 Did you pour clovers into the head?
TheBrotherhoodOfSony 1 year ago
Amazing ad....one of the best ever
Mortthemoose 1 year ago
You cannot define the greatness of this advertisement. Men who have been waiting their whole lives to ride the perfect wave. They don't want to go too soon which would make the feeling rushed and hasty, but they do not want to go too late in order to find the real thing is not what they thought it would be. They wait and at the end it is all worth it. As they say. Good Things Come To Those Who Wait.
AWonderingWarrior 1 year ago
...I think the Irish version is better :/ There isn't all that talking in it...Personally I think that ruins it :/
KateForte 1 year ago
what's the name of this song?
GamezillarRespawn 1 year ago
@GamezillarRespawn
Left field-phatt planet
CHRISMED2 1 year ago
@GamezillarRespawn
the song is /watch?v=feD1j8bHAck at least similar
archis84 1 year ago
oh the extended version :)
TheSilasgoodison 1 year ago
I love it! There is insane power in that ad.
manjushri888 1 year ago
Bring this back on TV I guarantee sales will go up!
TheDoubledoppler 1 year ago
can anybody tell me why they use "white horses", is it some kind of surfer lingo, or just because it looks cool? Just wondering...
NYC032 1 year ago
@NYC032
white horses are what you call the white frothy bits in choppy waters or at the crest of waves
reino24 1 year ago
@NYC032 No its an old saying, "the white horses" its basically describing a lot of big white water
TheUKBandit 1 year ago
@NYC032 They did a documentary on the making of this ad a while back, apparently Glazer was inspired by an Illustration of the same thing in a book (May have been an Illustrated version of Moby Dick I can't remember) but it was definitely inspired by a picture in a book of pretty much the same thing
MetaNapour 1 year ago
the best
epolce 1 year ago
The people who really made this advert must have been the editing team. The sound cuts and flashes, black & white colour and sound fx. Excellent job - really paid off!
darkembassymusic 1 year ago
@darkembassymusic Its a shame though, that this video file actually has dips in sound.
johngoundry86 1 year ago
Fantastic.
k12robert 1 year ago
Question Do you want to buy Guiness or go Surfing now?
farmerned6 1 year ago 2
@farmerned6 GUINNESS fuck surfing
littledaz123 1 year ago
I WANT THAT SONG/TRACK !
BoTaBLe 1 year ago
@BoTaBLe Leftfield - Phat Planet
sparfunk 1 year ago 6
WTF not even funny bk burger shots commercial was better
thefish649 1 year ago
@thefish649erm... not supposed to be ..... funny?
littledaz123 1 year ago
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88WeComeOutAtNight88 1 year ago
the beat makes you wanna go out and do manly stuff, like maybe punch some drywalls, no?
MrAgyoga 1 year ago
@MrAgyoga well maybe not punch dry walls but iunno skydiving or doing a matrix in a lobby perhaps lol
pommyrooter 1 year ago
Whoooooo! ha hhaaa
Jynx0 1 year ago
who is Ahab ?
lillrise 1 year ago
@lillrise Read ''Moby Dick''
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gnashy2 1 year ago
OMG THIS AD IS THE BEST IT HAS MEN WATER AND SUM HORSES
Nick4Gaming 1 year ago
@ Flintymackers: quality put-down there. I hate people who make no distinction.
mwhewitt 1 year ago
ебал я в рот ждять эту пенку
sashka2005mksat 1 year ago
they should be makin this into a movie....EPIC
ohmygiddygawsh 1 year ago
Just awesome...!
esmikd 1 year ago
fave ad ever even, before i picked up a board :-)
bongojason 1 year ago
can someone please tell me what is the man voice saying ??? i just can't get it english is my second lenguage...
barrymowed 1 year ago
@barrymowed the narrator says this..
He Waits
That's what he does
And i tell you what
Tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick
Ahab says i don't care who you are, here's to your dream
The old sailors return to the bar
Here's to you Ahab
And the fat drummer hit the beat with all his heart
Here's to waiting
gnashy2 1 year ago
@gnashy2 thanks ! you are the man!
barrymowed 1 year ago
Is that Bells Beach?
Pieappledave 1 year ago
The advert encompasses so many things about life. Joy. Sorrow. Victory. Defeat. Determination. Courage. Teamwork. Friendship. Patience. Passion. All of that in a minute and a half. The best advert ever made. Stunning.
Axelwater 1 year ago 2
Guinness isn't beer you dick it's stout
Fintymackers 1 year ago
Greatest...Commercial...EVARR !!
ceedubb72 1 year ago
im determined to like Guinness just for this advert
OllieWheats 1 year ago
Guinness is the classiest beer in the world.
killbot0011101000101 1 year ago
whats the tune called???
EinFuhrer18 1 year ago
@EinFuhrer18
Phat Planet by Leftfield.
EdWoods4444 1 year ago
full info on the ad and a few other Guinness ones: docstoc.c o m/docs/15056851/GUINNESS-SURFER/
adamt069 1 year ago
EPIC. the only way this could be better is if morgan freeman did the voice over. then it would be the best commercial in the world. evar.
RyTrapp0 1 year ago
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why are 4 men touching eachother on a beach.... homos LOL
dlgyswo 1 year ago
needs more cowbell
Gary190tube 1 year ago
Fantastic ad - here's to waiting :)
adamt069 1 year ago
Spoken by Louis Mells, the voiceover comprises of passages from Moby Dick by Herman Melville. Again, the passages were chosen for the 'waiting' theme - the surfers for the wave, Captain Ahab and his crew for their search for the white whale.
He waits; that's what he does.
And I tell you what: tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick...
Ahab says, 'I don't care who you are, here's to your dream.'
'Here's to you, Ahab'.
And the fat drummer hit the beat with all his heart.
SkyHighAndFree 1 year ago
this ad is pure genius! i, like so many others, could watch it over and over again. but everyone seems to be interested in the artistic background of it and the soundtrack (which, i have to admit, i found interesting myself)
BUT
I want to know who the main character is and find out a bit more about him.... does anyone have any leads?
rollerstains 1 year ago
@rollerstains These were filmed in Hawaii, at a place called Waimei Bay. It was there where the crew had their first stroke of luck - whilst looking for a nice angle to shoot from, they met their surfer, called enigmatically, 'Rocky'. He, and three of his surfer friends were to be in the advert.
The massive waves only happen a few days each year, and so with camera equipment rigged to jetskis, helicopters and the longboards themselves, the waves were filmed.
SkyHighAndFree 1 year ago
music sounds like from UNKLE With South
JDEGASx 1 year ago
Here's to wating : 1 hour drive into Heathrow, 90 mins at the airport, 1 hour 20 min flight, 30 mins at Dublin airport waiting for baggage and a taxi, 30 mins taxi ride to the hotel, 10 mins at hotel freshening up...20 min walk to Oliver St John O Gogarty's....5 mins at the bar to wait to get your first Guiness of the night whilst the band play "whiskey in the jar"..yes, here's to WAITING :-)
billiepipersteeth 1 year ago 15
sup /b/
skatexfire 1 year ago
/gif/ftw
machetero1 1 year ago
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Great ad shame about the nasty product.
killerwaz88 2 years ago
You have the palate of a horse.
bucajack 1 year ago
zane lowe played this on the radio the other day! legendary tune and video
mrclembo 2 years ago
Best ad ever, no question.Fabulous.
doodlepups 2 years ago 72
@doodlepups it's leftfield
lastretch 1 year ago
@doodlepups ....Best beer ever, no questiont!
mdaguinaco 6 months ago
whats the song called
yourbc 2 years ago
the song is called Phat Planet
freakychurchhill 2 years ago
best ad ever
nicosd75 2 years ago 20
@nicosd75 still gives me the willies
matiu67 1 year ago
@nicosd75 best beer...no doubt!
mdaguinaco 6 months ago
I don't care who you are, here's to your dream!
Amazing ad! A+
CellarDoor2008 2 years ago 5
whats the song called
???
069Luigi690 2 years ago
Phat Planet by Leftfield
XRememberxMyxNameX 2 years ago
Ahab is Melville's captain in Moby Dick. This ad is pure poetry in motion. A true masterpiece of visual arts. Kudos to AMV, the best ad agency the whole world has ever known.
germanlib 2 years ago 3
amazing video....
panoszigzag 2 years ago
yeah, Glazer channeling Jean-Luc Goddard...
nickycrypt 2 years ago
amazing..very insightful
derrygautama 2 years ago
0:39 would make a good tattoo design.
socarulz 2 years ago
my first tattoo was a pint of guinness, still there.
ijiojio 2 years ago
"and the fat drummer hit the beat with all his heart"
what an epic line.
socarulz 2 years ago 3
great ad.
love the one with the old swimmer racing the pour as well.
top notch
violentbuddha 2 years ago
top of a Channel 4 poll of the 100 greatest ads, awards:a Golden lion and others, the waves filmed in Waimei Bay- Hawaii, horses- Lipizzaner Stallions from the Spanish riding school of Vienna, comprised passages taken from Herman Melville's Moby Dick
PeterBaluch 2 years ago
the inspiration for the ad was a painting
holyeoin 2 years ago
name of the song any1?
Katharsis540 2 years ago
Search YouTube for Leftfield Phat Planet
bimbon77 2 years ago
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So giturra, do you have arms and legs? or are you just a giant jewish vagina?
Reverendwyotech 2 years ago
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Nightmarish, the scariest thing I've ever seen as an ad. Made me afarid of the ocean, and it didn't make want to drink a guiness, on the contrary, I'm not drinking anymore of that shit ever again. Scary stuff, artsy, unnapealing and boring at the same time.
giturra 2 years ago
Just the best piece of advertising on tv ever.Great work wether it be CGi or cool photography just enjoy such creative work and the visual effect is stunning.
englishsandy 2 years ago
Walter Crane; Neptune's Horses, by way of: Katsushika Hokusai;
The Great Wave.
Reverendwyotech 2 years ago
Think I heard somewhere that foam on the top of waves is called 'white horses', so maybe the inspiration? Lots of elements involved, visual, philosophical, literary, pure genius. DRINK GUINESS!
Joe9017 2 years ago
TO PARSNIPS!
MartinPurvis 2 years ago 2
TO ARTHUR!
mazomalley1 2 years ago
i like it!! it got me interested,..cause i had no idea until the end what this was for,..
i like the horses,..and the guys moments,.. and his expression .. victory..
hihi
helmet9281 2 years ago
The best ad ever. ever ever ever. i can watch this over and over. sheer art.
wolfpackforlife 2 years ago 45
any one know the what the trance vesion of this is calld?????
badboytish 2 years ago
do you mean "leftfield - phat planet", or is there an actual trance version of phat planet?
theufomusic 2 years ago
...wtf
wilddey 2 years ago
i really av tried to like it as so many others seem too but i just cant. it's slow, boring, too philosophical. lol. budweiser advert is my favourite.=]
luannexx17 2 years ago
This always gives me chills, the horses look so magnificent and the banging bass, I love it!!!
jadorebri 2 years ago 4
this was shit
luannexx17 2 years ago
Great comment luannexx17! we've all changed our minds about loving this ad now because of your insightful,constructive and dazzling argument...asshole!!!
badassbuddusky 2 years ago
woah woah woah lets not get too carried away hardly an argument when i give my opinion. calling me an arsehole made me smile though. =]
luannexx17 2 years ago
Lol luannexxx17,glad I made you smile.I probably went a bit ott with the post but do you honestly not like this ad?
badassbuddusky 2 years ago
this is the greatest advert in the history of adverts
RukiVadamnee 2 years ago 2
think the same
bestMOVIEpart 2 years ago
TinnedWaffles the painting the horse reference was taken from is Walter Crane's Neptune horses.
Salva22 2 years ago
aren't the horses also a reference to some piece of artwork..?
TinnedWaffles 2 years ago
i just fucking love this ad. it's my favourite ad for my favourite beer
R6VIIshooter 2 years ago
What's the song?
Sentenashi 2 years ago
phat planet - leftfield
rustsaxaph 2 years ago
Cheers mate
Sentenashi 2 years ago
thx man!
bestMOVIEpart 2 years ago
awesome advert
wardo221 2 years ago
The horses ARE the waves wild and powerful but the guy tamed them, great advert.
xxhypnotic1964 2 years ago
Hi miss de graaf :P
jackassvernon 2 years ago
this ad would still be shit hot even without the horses,
CopyriteInfringement 2 years ago
i think this ad is amazing and i understand it... but i dont understand why the horses are in the waves.
tomhodgson77 2 years ago
It's just a visual metaphor I think, to show how powerful the waves are.
xratedcheese 2 years ago
Also, the foam you see on the waves are known as 'white horses'. ;)
Bal117 2 years ago
Awesome!
OlympicGamesTV 2 years ago
what's the name of that song ?
EVYmie 2 years ago
Phat Planet by Leftfield
BenJHare 2 years ago 2
thanx, i needed this vid 2 revise 4 ma media exam lol! cheers!
cutiechick999 2 years ago
Interesting fact, the main guy in the ad wasn't actually a professional surfer but the makers found him sitting under a palm tree one afternoon and coaxed him into being in the ad, Subsequently the surf was 100% perfection that day and he ended up looking really good on the waves.
freddygotme 2 years ago
crazyoatmealmansirmiss whatever the fuck. your a spastic if u dont get it. m amazed you can use a computer and not get this, one of the best advertisements ever made......
bigdannystylee 2 years ago
Think it should have ended around 60 seconds then had voice over. Still great. Was this ever on US TV?
giacblanc 2 years ago
they purposely had it 90 seconds to show that it takes that long to pour the pint of guiness, but its worth the wait just like the perfect wave the surfers waited 4.
cutiechick999 2 years ago 2
that was epic
buccub 2 years ago 2
If Carslberg made adverts....
Oh... ;)
Rorifett 2 years ago 7
LOOL
CopyriteInfringement 2 years ago
quite possibly the greatest ad ever made!!!!!!!!!!
ajm6665 2 years ago 4
call me crazy, stupid, an idiot, (try to avoid excessive swearing)... i don't get it.
CrazyOatmealTom 2 years ago