you the man EComp86 aka eric... you the man.. give Mika and Kayla my love.... hope you think about me while you're off building pools up in BC canada.. sorry to hear about your dog bruse by the way, it's a shame...
honestly i thought that was performed very well, other than most people ive seen butcher a form (not saying you did btw). im learning bung bo soon at my sifu's seminar, it may be the same or different i dunno. but as you said you were fatigued so if your a little off its understandable. it looks great though man, i personally cant wait to learn it. how are the applications to it? like is it worth learning and how much have you learned from it?
In essence you all have forgot what kung fu is about. It means to "work hard", don't criticize others training. We all have flaws in our work and forms. That is why we train right? To find the peace within ourselves. So don't demean each other, give blessings and spread the love.
dude, I'm not trying to be a dick, it just looks like in parts that your getting a little bit ahead of your center of gravity when you move. Move from the core.
You can sit there and critique all night and day but in the end it's all about typing on a keyboard. If you know me then say something to me in person and we can handle this, if you don't know me then keep on doing your thing and don't worry about how others are training. You know the one's who aren't up to your skill level in mantis.
LOL. I love Todd weeks, man. he is the shiznit ya know;) For someone who claims to have 15+ years of northern mantis under his belt you sure do not represent yourself well with those years. I say you are full of shit and only have a year maybe TWO of actual training. As for being "riled up". only YOU allow yourself to be that way in the face of criticism,you meet it with the mannerisms of a 17 year old rather than an experienced ADULT mantis player.
LOL nice.. like I said lets see what you have to offer sweets. For someone with so much "information" about mantis I don't see you putting your stuff out there for others to see. I think you are the one that's full of shit. I represent myself well enough where it counts, let me know when and where and I'll show you how much of a child I can be. ;)
Notice I said "trying" to rile me up. I'm sitting here at my desk at work laughing because this is entertaining to me. I enjoy banter, especially with those who feel the need to troll instead of offering up something useful.
HEY TODD!!!!! aka PaiLung, I'm sorry broseph I really didn't know who you were. I'm glad you finally sent me the video link of you in action!! I take back everything I've said, you are truly the man. I've bought your videos, I left work early to start my training asap. Thanks again for showing me the light todd. I wish I were gay, then I would let you show me your iron taint.
With that said you might be wasting your time commenting here, other than trying to rile me up you've shown that you have no interest in learning why something is done a certain way or that someone else might be training for different outcomes than you are.
Whatever Shirkers. you can "shirk" the constructive criticism all you want but the fact remains there. im not saying you are terrible. what i am saying truly is that you need to slow things down, way down, put the fajin back in your movements. this isnt a video game dude, its Mantis, its TCMA NOT wushu. sheesh, try to help a kid and you get pissed on, lol.
You can LOL all you want, and I'm sorry if you think I'm pissing on you broseph. Seems like you have some things to learn yourself, saying "it sucked" and then going about giving you opinions like you are an authority on the subject is what I would call "pissiing on someone".
oh so you mean to tell me that the way you executed your form was "SLOW"? LOL you mean you do it much much faster than that? LOL. post another vid with you doing that form in the "fast" mode. LOLOL.
Like I said it would be easier to accept your opinions if I had a visual of yours to compare to. It's as simple as that, lets see what you have to offer. Until then I'll take what you have to say with a grain of salt, and I sure as hell wouldn't call you a true mantis player at all if you don't know the difference between content in regards to fighting apps and doing an empty hand set.
Like I said it would be easier to accept your opinions if I had a visual of yours to compare to. It's as simple as that, lets see what you have to offer. Until then I'll take what you have to say with a grain of salt, and I sure as hell wouldn't call you a true mantis player at all if you don't know the difference between content in regards to fighting apps and doing an empty hand set.
look, you are just going through the motions, i see no content whatsoever in this, yeah you got a little movement and skill. try slowing down your movements and actualy LEARNING your form. instead of blasting through it like you are doing here. then you can speed things up for "show". besides you are doing this infront of a cam. you are playing to the cam rather than actually doing your form. ask any experienced teacher and they will tell you the same thing.
look, it says it all in the description. The form WAS done slowly for a reason and I WAS just going through the motions so to speak. lol You're not saying anything that wasn't already said. So which is it, am I just doing it for the flair which is uncontrolled and quickly or am I just going through the motions slowly and precisely?
Bottom line doing a form for "content" is pretty empty in my experience and pretty much has nothing to do with fighting. Doing the apps taken out of the forms is where true "content" comes from period. Since situations change in combat and in application, it's very hard to show true intent when doing an empty hand set period. Any "fighter" would know that, but then again by what you've said so far I wouldn't think you are a fighter at all. ;)
stomping your feet and twirling your arms around in an incoherent manner does NOT make you a good mantis player.your movements are too choppy and not rooted, you seem to be more concerned with your "flair" rather than your "content".
"flair"? Wow, from what I've seen out there this seems pretty watered down on the flair scale. Pretty direct and to the point which transfers over to "actual" application very well. But then again I'm not a tourney monkey trying to "impress" judges.
Well its not exactly how I was taught but so what? I think it looks good. And by the way - lineage is important. Don't let Chang-my-shorts get to you, be as calm as you are skilled.
You really need to start practicing yourself instead of making up 12 different names to try and hound me slick. Just post the vid of yourself like I asked before and then we'll have a comparison. It's really not that hard to do. Or are you afraid I'll know who you are, then your courage will have to actually have meaning.
yes he does need time to perfect it but it is also is very good !!! and its not about courage its the unique way of how he is showing you of something he has been practicing !!!!! and i am sure is master is very,very,very good esspeslly because i know him and i am sure unless you have been accualy practicing you would understand wat work goes into wat he is showing you!!! p.s good job mark !!!!!! -*-minimantis
Hmm it's been like 24 hours and still no answer. :( Oh well sorry fella. Tell you what, just post your video when you're ready and give me a buzz, K sweet P??? Or better yet just answer in the KFO forum post.. no sense hidding here, so hurry up and make up another fake user id over there and we can continue this discussion on the inside kung fu magazine forum.
Wow CHANGHFY it's a shame that you haven't commented yet or shown a video of yourself doing this form. Your teacher and fellow students must be very proud of your prowess...
I tell you what CHANGHFY. I'll give you the opportunity to make yourself look squeeky clean to my fans on here. Just give me a response any response that shows you have a clue period! I know you're a weak minded individual hiding behind your computer screen, and that you would never dare challenge me in the real world. Just don't respond and that will be enough for me. That will tell me I was right about you all along. A coward for sure, sucks to be you. lol!!!
First of all its not my fault that your a beginner and still in the Fau Kiu stage of the Saam Mo Kiu. You forgot the Feng Sau, Bong Choy, the choy sam sau. And the concept of time, space, and energy. I didnt say it was terrible just done wrong. Good luck with that. I wish you the best
lol It is your fault that you are trying to set me off. : D Oh well, please don't spout off stages like you know where I'm at in my training. The sarcasm tells me you do so once again troll on, back to facts.
"You forgot the Feng Sau, Bong Choy, the choy sam sau". Where in the set did I forget these tactics? Bung choi for example, there are only 3 to begin with in our line!!! 1st one at the end of road 1, 2nd one close to the end of road 2 after the throw, and the last one at the end of road 4. So the only other one would be the "upper cut" that some people perform as a bung choi out of tiger riding in road #2.
So please can you inform me as to where these "extra tactics" lie in the form? Since I'm a beginner and all, I need all the help I can get. So help a fellow mantis guy out, perhaps you could post a video of yourself doing the form so I can see what I'm doing wrong and how the right way should be. ;) Thanks a million.
Im from the Wong Han Fun lineage through Chung Ho Yin>Henry Chung>Myself. There is also Lee Kam Wing through CCM lineage in Hong Kong so I wasnt sure.
Well you got the part of being in dire need right.
LOL I know who came from WHF.. if YOU truly knew what you were talking about then you would know that I wasn't the LKW side because they have a different flavor etc. But I don't think any one can be that stupid so that leaves me with you just trying to push my buttons and trolling.
SO with that said I guess "YOU'RE" (not your) on your way out the door spanky. Enjoy your training, maybe one day you'll grow a pair and put up a video of yourself instead of chiming in on what others put up.
I admire him for having the courage to perform his Beng Bu on video. But he needs a lot of time to perfect it. The form overall was poorly performed and alot of the techniques were performed wrong and left out key movements. This may be because of his Sifu's personnal teachings or his own experiences. But great try anyways its the thought that counts.
Well that's what I thought still no answer... Performance was bad like the description said. Fatigue was an issue but to say it's done wrong and missing moves doesn't make sense unless you're from another line of mantis. This is the way the HK branch of 7 star performs the set. Still waiting on what is missing and done wrong..... But being that your comment was more than likely a trolling comment I'll let it slide. ass clown
Great video, however the angle could have been better. I wish I could see what you were doing while your back was to us.
mkettner1869 1 year ago
Is this a southern style?
tonglongkid 2 years ago
No this is Northern 7 * praying mantis boxing.
shirkers1 2 years ago
twisting your gay hand like your waving to the queenn.. id fucking dick punch u and it would be over.. and im fucking serious
EComp86 3 years ago
you the man EComp86 aka eric... you the man.. give Mika and Kayla my love.... hope you think about me while you're off building pools up in BC canada.. sorry to hear about your dog bruse by the way, it's a shame...
shirkers 3 years ago
honestly i thought that was performed very well, other than most people ive seen butcher a form (not saying you did btw). im learning bung bo soon at my sifu's seminar, it may be the same or different i dunno. but as you said you were fatigued so if your a little off its understandable. it looks great though man, i personally cant wait to learn it. how are the applications to it? like is it worth learning and how much have you learned from it?
efme45 3 years ago
In essence you all have forgot what kung fu is about. It means to "work hard", don't criticize others training. We all have flaws in our work and forms. That is why we train right? To find the peace within ourselves. So don't demean each other, give blessings and spread the love.
brimont1276 4 years ago
dude, I'm not trying to be a dick, it just looks like in parts that your getting a little bit ahead of your center of gravity when you move. Move from the core.
vediccarl 5 years ago
Thanks for the help.
shirkers 4 years ago
man, your balance looks a little weak. probably from training all day, but keep yourself grounded. I could probably just push you over.
vediccarl 5 years ago
Really? Interesting would you use your left hand or right?
shirkers 5 years ago
WHF lineage via al cheng.
shirkers 5 years ago
Which lineage is it? I mean I reckognize the Seven Star Praying mantis, but it isn't Si-gung Lee Kam Wing's school.
Gaboruh 5 years ago
You can sit there and critique all night and day but in the end it's all about typing on a keyboard. If you know me then say something to me in person and we can handle this, if you don't know me then keep on doing your thing and don't worry about how others are training. You know the one's who aren't up to your skill level in mantis.
shirkers 5 years ago
Go play with your arwen sword replica and kill some imaginary orcs now frodo. LOL.
PaiLung 5 years ago
what the fuck is an "arwen sword"? Is that some ancient chinese weapon?
shirkers 5 years ago
LOL. I love Todd weeks, man. he is the shiznit ya know;) For someone who claims to have 15+ years of northern mantis under his belt you sure do not represent yourself well with those years. I say you are full of shit and only have a year maybe TWO of actual training. As for being "riled up". only YOU allow yourself to be that way in the face of criticism,you meet it with the mannerisms of a 17 year old rather than an experienced ADULT mantis player.
PaiLung 5 years ago
LOL nice.. like I said lets see what you have to offer sweets. For someone with so much "information" about mantis I don't see you putting your stuff out there for others to see. I think you are the one that's full of shit. I represent myself well enough where it counts, let me know when and where and I'll show you how much of a child I can be. ;)
shirkers 5 years ago
Notice I said "trying" to rile me up. I'm sitting here at my desk at work laughing because this is entertaining to me. I enjoy banter, especially with those who feel the need to troll instead of offering up something useful.
shirkers 5 years ago
HEY TODD!!!!! aka PaiLung, I'm sorry broseph I really didn't know who you were. I'm glad you finally sent me the video link of you in action!! I take back everything I've said, you are truly the man. I've bought your videos, I left work early to start my training asap. Thanks again for showing me the light todd. I wish I were gay, then I would let you show me your iron taint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObnBzkysSHY
shirkers 5 years ago
With that said you might be wasting your time commenting here, other than trying to rile me up you've shown that you have no interest in learning why something is done a certain way or that someone else might be training for different outcomes than you are.
shirkers 5 years ago
Whatever Shirkers. you can "shirk" the constructive criticism all you want but the fact remains there. im not saying you are terrible. what i am saying truly is that you need to slow things down, way down, put the fajin back in your movements. this isnt a video game dude, its Mantis, its TCMA NOT wushu. sheesh, try to help a kid and you get pissed on, lol.
PaiLung 5 years ago
You can LOL all you want, and I'm sorry if you think I'm pissing on you broseph. Seems like you have some things to learn yourself, saying "it sucked" and then going about giving you opinions like you are an authority on the subject is what I would call "pissiing on someone".
shirkers 5 years ago
oh so you mean to tell me that the way you executed your form was "SLOW"? LOL you mean you do it much much faster than that? LOL. post another vid with you doing that form in the "fast" mode. LOLOL.
PaiLung 5 years ago
Like I said it would be easier to accept your opinions if I had a visual of yours to compare to. It's as simple as that, lets see what you have to offer. Until then I'll take what you have to say with a grain of salt, and I sure as hell wouldn't call you a true mantis player at all if you don't know the difference between content in regards to fighting apps and doing an empty hand set.
shirkers 5 years ago
Like I said it would be easier to accept your opinions if I had a visual of yours to compare to. It's as simple as that, lets see what you have to offer. Until then I'll take what you have to say with a grain of salt, and I sure as hell wouldn't call you a true mantis player at all if you don't know the difference between content in regards to fighting apps and doing an empty hand set.
shirkers 5 years ago
look, you are just going through the motions, i see no content whatsoever in this, yeah you got a little movement and skill. try slowing down your movements and actualy LEARNING your form. instead of blasting through it like you are doing here. then you can speed things up for "show". besides you are doing this infront of a cam. you are playing to the cam rather than actually doing your form. ask any experienced teacher and they will tell you the same thing.
PaiLung 5 years ago
look, it says it all in the description. The form WAS done slowly for a reason and I WAS just going through the motions so to speak. lol You're not saying anything that wasn't already said. So which is it, am I just doing it for the flair which is uncontrolled and quickly or am I just going through the motions slowly and precisely?
shirkers 5 years ago
Bottom line doing a form for "content" is pretty empty in my experience and pretty much has nothing to do with fighting. Doing the apps taken out of the forms is where true "content" comes from period. Since situations change in combat and in application, it's very hard to show true intent when doing an empty hand set period. Any "fighter" would know that, but then again by what you've said so far I wouldn't think you are a fighter at all. ;)
shirkers 5 years ago
stomping your feet and twirling your arms around in an incoherent manner does NOT make you a good mantis player.your movements are too choppy and not rooted, you seem to be more concerned with your "flair" rather than your "content".
PaiLung 5 years ago
"flair"? Wow, from what I've seen out there this seems pretty watered down on the flair scale. Pretty direct and to the point which transfers over to "actual" application very well. But then again I'm not a tourney monkey trying to "impress" judges.
shirkers 5 years ago
it sucked.
PaiLung 5 years ago
Thanks for your opinion, now do us a favor and get a vid of you up here so I can give you my opinion.
shirkers 5 years ago
That was cool and well done in my opinion.
Tazz77 5 years ago
Well its not exactly how I was taught but so what? I think it looks good. And by the way - lineage is important. Don't let Chang-my-shorts get to you, be as calm as you are skilled.
WoKaiWen 5 years ago
You really need to start practicing yourself instead of making up 12 different names to try and hound me slick. Just post the vid of yourself like I asked before and then we'll have a comparison. It's really not that hard to do. Or are you afraid I'll know who you are, then your courage will have to actually have meaning.
shirkers 5 years ago
Nice video. lineage shmineage.
karasu0 6 years ago
yes he does need time to perfect it but it is also is very good !!! and its not about courage its the unique way of how he is showing you of something he has been practicing !!!!! and i am sure is master is very,very,very good esspeslly because i know him and i am sure unless you have been accualy practicing you would understand wat work goes into wat he is showing you!!! p.s good job mark !!!!!! -*-minimantis
minimantis 6 years ago
Hmm it's been like 24 hours and still no answer. :( Oh well sorry fella. Tell you what, just post your video when you're ready and give me a buzz, K sweet P??? Or better yet just answer in the KFO forum post.. no sense hidding here, so hurry up and make up another fake user id over there and we can continue this discussion on the inside kung fu magazine forum.
shirkers 6 years ago
Wow CHANGHFY it's a shame that you haven't commented yet or shown a video of yourself doing this form. Your teacher and fellow students must be very proud of your prowess...
shirkers 6 years ago
I tell you what CHANGHFY. I'll give you the opportunity to make yourself look squeeky clean to my fans on here. Just give me a response any response that shows you have a clue period! I know you're a weak minded individual hiding behind your computer screen, and that you would never dare challenge me in the real world. Just don't respond and that will be enough for me. That will tell me I was right about you all along. A coward for sure, sucks to be you. lol!!!
shirkers 6 years ago
First of all its not my fault that your a beginner and still in the Fau Kiu stage of the Saam Mo Kiu. You forgot the Feng Sau, Bong Choy, the choy sam sau. And the concept of time, space, and energy. I didnt say it was terrible just done wrong. Good luck with that. I wish you the best
changhfy 6 years ago
lol It is your fault that you are trying to set me off. : D Oh well, please don't spout off stages like you know where I'm at in my training. The sarcasm tells me you do so once again troll on, back to facts.
shirkers 6 years ago
"You forgot the Feng Sau, Bong Choy, the choy sam sau". Where in the set did I forget these tactics? Bung choi for example, there are only 3 to begin with in our line!!! 1st one at the end of road 1, 2nd one close to the end of road 2 after the throw, and the last one at the end of road 4. So the only other one would be the "upper cut" that some people perform as a bung choi out of tiger riding in road #2.
shirkers 6 years ago
So please can you inform me as to where these "extra tactics" lie in the form? Since I'm a beginner and all, I need all the help I can get. So help a fellow mantis guy out, perhaps you could post a video of yourself doing the form so I can see what I'm doing wrong and how the right way should be. ;) Thanks a million.
shirkers 6 years ago
If you dont mind me asking what lineage are you from?
take care.
changhfy 6 years ago
Well I already stated HK 7 star. So from there you should have been able to make an educated guess. ;) WHF line....
What line are you from? Please I'm in dire need of help, post a video of yourself so I can be placed on the right track.
shirkers 6 years ago
Im from the Wong Han Fun lineage through Chung Ho Yin>Henry Chung>Myself. There is also Lee Kam Wing through CCM lineage in Hong Kong so I wasnt sure.
Well you got the part of being in dire need right.
(your on your way : )
take care,
zai jian
changhfy 6 years ago
LOL I know who came from WHF.. if YOU truly knew what you were talking about then you would know that I wasn't the LKW side because they have a different flavor etc. But I don't think any one can be that stupid so that leaves me with you just trying to push my buttons and trolling.
shirkers 6 years ago
SO with that said I guess "YOU'RE" (not your) on your way out the door spanky. Enjoy your training, maybe one day you'll grow a pair and put up a video of yourself instead of chiming in on what others put up.
shirkers 6 years ago
I admire him for having the courage to perform his Beng Bu on video. But he needs a lot of time to perfect it. The form overall was poorly performed and alot of the techniques were performed wrong and left out key movements. This may be because of his Sifu's personnal teachings or his own experiences. But great try anyways its the thought that counts.
changhfy 6 years ago
From your personal teachings, what movements were left out and done wrong?
shirkers 6 years ago
Well that's what I thought still no answer... Performance was bad like the description said. Fatigue was an issue but to say it's done wrong and missing moves doesn't make sense unless you're from another line of mantis. This is the way the HK branch of 7 star performs the set. Still waiting on what is missing and done wrong..... But being that your comment was more than likely a trolling comment I'll let it slide. ass clown
shirkers 6 years ago