"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love." Pythagoras, mathematician
"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men." Leonardo da Vinci, artist and scientist
Of course, it's fine you feel that way, but our minds have so much to do with how things taste.
For me, the idea of "flesh" is enough to turn me off. It would be as if someone told me to eat my dog, or something. And in reality, there is no difference, except that society has approved one for consumption and not the other. So, from this more universal perspective, it all just becomes repulsive.
When I came to the US from India, I was a vegetarian. I tried meat and I loved it. Now I am super carnivorous. You are not taking into account the fact that meat tastes so ***ing good.
Albeit the sole purpose of vegetarianism posing a positive influence toward society I, a vegan, do not believe that merely refusing to partake in the consumption of flesh results entirely at the "finish point" of compassion. Ultimately we, as a global "market", must acknowledge the unhealthy relation between that of an animal's right to be recognised as a sentient being. Upon society finally waking to the fact that a sentient being is not, by law, a resource, will then result in success.
I appreciate your thoughtful, friendly questions. As you may know by my other videos, I'm a big fan of Alan Watts.
When you suggest that perhaps our ways compound every problem we attempt to solve, I would agree, and go further, by tracing the reason to what Buddhists call -The Three Poisons, which are, Greed, Anger, and Ignorance. It seems that until we conquer these characteristics within ourselves, it's true, we will ruin everything we touch!
Thank you for watching and for your concern with these issues.
Yes, a softer approach seems more realistic.
But in answer to the naturalistic response - this comes up a lot, and is not very helpful, as much of what is considered natural is reprehensible and avoidable - like rape and genocide - if only we would tap into our potential as compassionate beings. Also, those who prey have no altenatives, the way we do.
There's an Alan Watts video here on YouTube called "A Conversation With Myself" in which he ponders the differences in the ways of man compared to the ways of nature.
I'm stuck!
On one hand, the ways of nature are a poor guide for morality. But on the other hand, the ways of man compound every problem we attempt to solve.
Maybe the ways of nature are kinder for the homeostasis of the biosphere, despite the cruelty inflicted on individuals?
@profquesada Thank you for those wonderful videos. I sometimes wish I could escape this criminal world to a place where people valued life, the environment and their health. Things are changing? Maybe but it's so slowly. Like Paul McCartney said in the song "Tug of War" : " It won't be soon enough for me."
Great video. Is eating meat bad karma? /watch?v=ytEz2GQOVNk
haridham 2 months ago in playlist Vegetarian
I can understand her anguish and frustration ... too much Bullshit in this world.
expricornis 7 months ago
"An intelligent talk about the philosophy and benefits of a vegetarian diet."
For god sake, how can you use the words "intelligent" and "vegetarian" in one sentence???
develko 1 year ago
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"For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love." Pythagoras, mathematician
"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men." Leonardo da Vinci, artist and scientist
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
Hello Indian friend,
Of course, it's fine you feel that way, but our minds have so much to do with how things taste.
For me, the idea of "flesh" is enough to turn me off. It would be as if someone told me to eat my dog, or something. And in reality, there is no difference, except that society has approved one for consumption and not the other. So, from this more universal perspective, it all just becomes repulsive.
profquesada 1 year ago
When I came to the US from India, I was a vegetarian. I tried meat and I loved it. Now I am super carnivorous. You are not taking into account the fact that meat tastes so ***ing good.
Mrparrot73 1 year ago
Watch Food Inc., make your students watch, its on netflix
MrLiquidgypsy 1 year ago
Albeit the sole purpose of vegetarianism posing a positive influence toward society I, a vegan, do not believe that merely refusing to partake in the consumption of flesh results entirely at the "finish point" of compassion. Ultimately we, as a global "market", must acknowledge the unhealthy relation between that of an animal's right to be recognised as a sentient being. Upon society finally waking to the fact that a sentient being is not, by law, a resource, will then result in success.
Peace
1c3d34rth 2 years ago
Hi Zen,
I appreciate your thoughtful, friendly questions. As you may know by my other videos, I'm a big fan of Alan Watts.
When you suggest that perhaps our ways compound every problem we attempt to solve, I would agree, and go further, by tracing the reason to what Buddhists call -The Three Poisons, which are, Greed, Anger, and Ignorance. It seems that until we conquer these characteristics within ourselves, it's true, we will ruin everything we touch!
profquesada 2 years ago
Hi 1zen,
Thank you for watching and for your concern with these issues.
Yes, a softer approach seems more realistic.
But in answer to the naturalistic response - this comes up a lot, and is not very helpful, as much of what is considered natural is reprehensible and avoidable - like rape and genocide - if only we would tap into our potential as compassionate beings. Also, those who prey have no altenatives, the way we do.
We fortunately have healthy alternatives!
With a smile,
~DQ
profquesada 2 years ago
There's an Alan Watts video here on YouTube called "A Conversation With Myself" in which he ponders the differences in the ways of man compared to the ways of nature.
I'm stuck!
On one hand, the ways of nature are a poor guide for morality. But on the other hand, the ways of man compound every problem we attempt to solve.
Maybe the ways of nature are kinder for the homeostasis of the biosphere, despite the cruelty inflicted on individuals?
1zenAwhile 2 years ago
@profquesada Thank you for those wonderful videos. I sometimes wish I could escape this criminal world to a place where people valued life, the environment and their health. Things are changing? Maybe but it's so slowly. Like Paul McCartney said in the song "Tug of War" : " It won't be soon enough for me."
dowhatuwill 4 months ago
I'm glad that you mentioned an alternative for those of us not willing to totally climb on board the vegetarian train:
Eat less meat.
I'm not strict about this, but I tend to eat poultry and fish much more often than I eat mammals. And I only have poultry or fish about twice a week.
It is natural for animals to prey upon each other. But the industrial scale at which we do it using agriculture is unnatural and unhealthy.
1zenAwhile 2 years ago
Great! Loved it.
hoteisbelly 2 years ago