NH cop killer gets death; I have questions

[ranchai100]

Officer briggs sabed the life of this negro vermin awhile before this vermin murdered him.It just goes to show the negro mentality of non appreciation.Its certainly shown me that if ever a negro needs my help to survive,man woman,child or baby,I won't lift a finger to help them.Because they will just go on to murder someone and I dont want that murder on my concience

[slewofdamascus]

It's not just housing an individual convicted felon anymore, it's the process of selling his potential labor. Prisons have become a business and prisoners are expected to work, it's the cheapest of labor. Clearly, we will see vast abuses in the future as people are incarcerated falsely in order to provide cheap labor. This is how the Chinese operate their penal system, and the Chinese "way of doing" is de riguer for bureaufascists in the english-speaking "west".

[r1dermon]

A special commission studying the state's death penalty laws heard on December 4, 2009 that prosecutors in the Addison case ran up a $1.6 million bill and public defenders spent $1.1 million.

this is before the appeals process. it's infinitely cheaper to house someone for life than to kill them.

[sgtdemanda]

You bleeding hearts make me want to puke. As for this POS that killed the police officer? BURN BABY BURN....how I wish I could be there when they put him down like the animal that he is.

[beebo02]

Whether you consider my comment wise or not, it's still a fact this officer lost his life protecting other people from a dangerous person. It's just that simple.

[lasdhkfdslhdlshaf]

Damn wth is wrong with people? Ridley is an asshole. Addison is a bigger asshole, now he's gonna fry

Fuck him, God save New Hampshire from this mASSachusetts PC bullshit

[ragnarush]

Is Penalty Death a practice of NH authorities ? If Yes,..ok the guys made a crime that get him to that sentence, But if you tell me NH dont practice the penalty of Death ,..they must not change the law just cuz someone they liked alot ,..died,....

[ericbofcarsonc]

premeditated (planned) murder is generally the threshold for a capital murder charge. Clearly this guy planned his act and it was probably an aggravated brutal attack that "shocked the conscious" of the jury. Juries just dont go along with a capital beef, this had to be ugly. If this asshole would be brutal like that to a cop what would he do to a child or an average person on the street? the child killing of your comparison is generic, look at the elements of proof in ea.

[ericbofcarsonc]

what is the deterrent effect of the death penalty? we have the death penalty in nevada I was jumped by an inmate when I was an officer at ely state prison. my back up officer ran and my gun coverage officers froze. nothing stopped my attacker except what I believe 2 be the death penalty. I advocate d death penalty huge. What is the real cost savings of a human life? Is it cheaper to let law enforcement officers and members of the public die ? Death penalty dterrent is, real. Execute this fucker

[RidleyReport]

"IF ADDISON KILLED A CHILD HE WOULD NOT GET THE DEATH PENALTY BC IT IS NOT CAPITAL MURDER."

sounds like we have a problem then

[ANGLEBOOT]

A $00.50 bullet or $5000.00 aday for life?

We the tax payers will take the $00.50 bullet.

[jsuther8903]

Its not the $0.50 that is expensive. Its is multiple levels of appeals. Often the taxpayer cost of appeals and housing the inmate while the appeals are happening adds up to more than the cost of life in prison.

[ANGLEBOOT]

no that the change Obama says we'll get. 1 alleal that take them out back and shoot them. Better yet no appeals. judge say "death" shoot them righjt there Johnny on the spot. Then drag them out into the streets to so all what happens to those that are willing to live a life of crime.

Bring back the old Judge Roy Bean's of the world.

[fczwartek]

Your accounting skill are impressive Jackboot.

[Tarastomsgirl]

this is the first death pentaly imposed in 50 years in NH.. I think you can afford the cost.. Jesus, he deservers to die.. now.. He should be hung slowly....

[fczwartek]

Capital punishment should be abolished.

[CurtHowland]

...except at the scene of the crime, at the hands of the intended victim.

In other words, rather than "capital punishment", legalize self defense.

[fczwartek]

I don't have a problem with a person using lethal force self defense if the situation warrants it.

[CurtHowland]

Self defense makes lots of sense on many levels. One is that the victim rarely has to worry about knowing who the perpetrator is, unlike police who have to "sort things out" if they happen to arrive during the commission of a crime.

This helps explain why private citizens shoot "the wrong man" only 2% of the time, as opposed to the police's 11%.

I think people deserve to be taught how to use a gun just as they should be taught how to drive, and for the same reason.

[mmrsoxnation5]

self defense is legal meathead. what addison did was not self defense it was cold blooded purposeful capital murder.

BTW TO THE ORIGINAL POSTER OF THE VIDEO: IF ADDISON KILLED A CHILD HE WOULD NOT GET THE DEATH PENALTY BC IT IS NOT CAPITAL MURDER.

[TEBON]

mr sox nation must be from MA. ha

[Bennygotcha]

what is it that makes a cop's life more valuable than a civilian's? If this guy had killed me it wouldn't be a capitol murder, why is that?

[CurtHowland]

Marx was wrong.

The great "class struggle" is between the tax payers, and the tax eaters.

[Tarastomsgirl]

Its a worse charge to kill a cop than it is to kill the president.We just had a cop killed here in Fla. we didn't wait for the death pentaly he tried to run and he got a bullet between the eyes right where he deserved it. Both men shot those cops point blank in the face. But its okay right cause mommy drank when I was a kid so I'm justified. Give me a fucking break. If you want to be special and whine that someone won't get capital for murdering you go put on a badge and a gun and don't complain

[Bennygotcha]

OK, bad example, I used myself to make the point. It could just as easily be you or any other civilian. The point is why is a cop's life worth more than ANY civilian?

[Libertarian333]

"If you want to be special"

No one should be special. All are merely equal in rights. Winning popularity contests, or wearing clownsuits with shiny emblems on them, doesn't change that.

"and whine that someone won't get capital for murdering you"

I only support restitution; punitive "justice" isn't justice.

"go put on a badge and a gun and don't complain"

I'd rather not engage in crimes against my neighbors as a profession, especially not while pretending it's "for their own good".

[beebo02]

it's not MORE vaulable. This police officer was a human being too. One that was sworn to PROTECT and to serve, to uphold the law, to aid those in distress, to put his life on the line. THAT'S why it's capital murder.

[Bennygotcha]

Your own arguement nullifies your statement. You say his life is not more valuable, and then tell me how it is more valuable. The point is that either all muder is capitol, or all murder is not capitol.

[beebo02]

No, the point is that if you go through an academy, have training, and are sworn to protect and to serve the people of any given community, then the job (that's not just a job, it's a life choice) that puts you in harms way causes you to LOSE YOUR LIFE by a CRIMINAL who chooses to TAKE YOUR LIFE-it's capital murder. Do you understand the difference? Every life is valuable, whether it's a blessed child, a hard working man or woman,a law abiding citizen.........

[Bennygotcha]

By saying that taking the life of a police officer should carry a higher penalty you are saying that life is worth more than another person's life. It's very much like classes of felony. Think about it.

[beebo02]

not really, I think you need to pause and reflect on my last post. I can't say it any better than that. Unless you've been in my shoes regarding this matter, you will only see it from the outside, unlike myself.

[Bennygotcha]

I have reflected on your last post. In fact I've read it several times. You are saying that law enforcement officers take on additional risks for the common good. That is true, however that does not place the life of a law enforcement officer any higher than a civilian. Also, don't presume to know what boots I have or have not stood in. What you are doing there is trying to put yourself at a higher level than me, that's not wise.

[ragnarush]

i agree on that point, every life is equal . so if i kill benny or a cops, i should get the same punishment. If i kill the mayor of my town, or the president of USA, i should get the same sentence. that is a principle of equality. The Laws are VERY BAD , cuz they are not and far to be, fair or equal for everyone.

is the punishment mesaured by the 'popularity' of the victim ?

or is a crime a crime, like a murder is a murder, and they shold all have same punishment.

[yamasakiasami]

you have a point but to kill a cop or the presedent per say, is more heavily punishable because of the position of power and the fact the person was killed as a result of thier duties to the state and not a personal matter

[ragnarush]

i know, in the society we live in , its like that. ... but the fact is Moraly a Police or who ever it is have no higher claim on your life than yourself. For exemple: You have the right to defend yourself, but if yu do you will go in court and prolly gonna go in jail even if it was self-defense, the judge are getting more and more severe on that and they may even make an 'exemplary condamnation' (sry for bad spelling), If a police defend himself as self-defense, does he go in court ? and even

[ragnarush]

if a he kills someone ''actidentally'' the judge are clement with them, why ? again for a reason of state,.... if people can start to point at police and say this one or some of them are killers or corrupted police,...what happen when the nation fear teh police instead of feeling safe with them ? ,...so the judges are clement or the judge order the non-publicy of the affair in some case

and the goverment is suppose to be each of us.

[ragnarush]

and if ever the people of a country revolt and riot, then their government should ask what their people want to change instead of sending police and the army in the extreme case.

they have to much power, the more we make power centers , the more we looose,.....one power center for the whole planet would be INSANE,....it seems stupid but,...watch star wars youll see how the evil takes control of the whole thing

[ragnarush]

and now when you protest pacifically against the governmetn they consider you as a threat for the state and even a terrorist heh ,....c'mon dont you see the damn game folks ? ...

[ragnarush]

every life is valueble , i agree,..the criminal's life too btw

[Libertarian333]

"sworn to PROTECT and to serve"

Sworn to protect and serve the state, the enemy of the people. Serving the master does not make one a friend of the slave, even if it as often means protecting the slaves from the master's small-time competitors (who would of course hurt the master's profits as much as the well-being of the slaves) as it does whipping the slaves. What protection is afforded to us is no different from what any other livestock might receive; we're a revenue source.

[ragnarush]

Libertarian, God Gave you a Mouth, and you using it very well, thanks

[porterzcustomz]

I am a Atheist but what about all you Christians that follow "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Is there some exception to the rule written in the bible that I missed?

[JoelMatton]

I thought New Hampshire didn't use the death penalty anymore. Wasn't the last execution in New Hampshire in 1973 or something?

[highline121]

In New Hampshire someone who killed a juvenile would only be subjected to the death penalty if they killed the juvenile in the course of a rape or other listed crime in the capital murder statue.

[ssstealth]

A friend of mine said that in North Korea they used to execute criminals with a bullet to the head and send the criminal's family a bill for 23 cents for the cost of the bullet.

My friend is a bit silly, to put it politely.

[fczwartek]

Dave,

I think it is wrong to reduce the question of whether someone lives or dies to a simplistic cost-benefit analysis. "Which would be the cheapest solution?"

Personally I'm against the death penalty because I think it is nothing more than state sanctioned vengeance, and it has a long history in this country of being racially biased.

I don't really care if it's more or less expensive than the alternatives.

[CurtHowland]

I'm surprised, in a forum dominated by people who oppose the state, that there would be so little questioning of the ultimate act of the "collective" against the "individual".

With the advances in forensics, many death-row inmates have been found innocent. I think this is very important.

Maybe this case is so undeniable that he deserves death. But in the words of Gandalf, "Many die who deserve life. Can you give it to them?"

[CurtHowland]

Restitution is more "libertarian" than imprisonment, but how can restitution be paid for murder? Do we have our own Danegeld, as it were?

I don't know. I would very much like to find out, rather than see yet another person murdered.

[RidleyReport]

well since the money is more or less stolen from taxpayers, then less expensive means less theft. That is not a petty matter.

[fczwartek]

By that logic the least expensive way to deal with this.....is to ignore it.

Is that a good idea?

[CurtHowland]

I see the "cost" argument as a reason for private courts, not just cheaper government actions.

The question of "how to get there from here", though, would be to try to wrest from government as much of their monopoly on "criminal" prosecution as possible.

[massltca]

I have no problem executing someone who murders another human being. But I do have a problem with the way it is carried out. Some lives have more value than others, police officers, politicians etc. Everyone is supposed to be equal in the eyes of the law and killing a cop shouldn't carry a more severe penalty than murdering anyone else. Also unless guilt can be positively established then the death penalty should not be applied. It is not acceptable to put innocent people to death.

[1eich]

break the law pay the price... live free or die!! any questions??

[fczwartek]

Yes. Why is it that poor people and black people are executed at a much higher rate than rich people and white people?

[Passport123456789]

Tell me where you got your information that black people are executed more often than white people.

[fczwartek]

Stanford University for one. Amnesty International for another, um also the General Accounting Office, the Justice Department, The American Bar Association, The Death Penalty Information Center, The Atlanta Journal Constitution...and on and on.

By the way I did not say "that black people are executed more often that white people." I said that blacks are executed at a much higher rate than whites. There is a difference.

Look it up if you don't believe me.

[Passport123456789]

Fair enough, people don't usually word their comments so carefully on youtube.

[halsose]

they do more crime

[1eich]

I don't know about the stats but he kill someone and can NEVER live free again so in New Hampshire live free or ... what was it again?

[benaj01]

live free my brother

[dewbie42]

He admitted to kill someone, he should be killed. We don't need to waste more money on a dirt bag like him or anyone else who kills someone else that is not through self defence of themselves or another person.

[fczwartek]

George W is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people (although granted he will never "admit" to it.)

Should we apply your logic to him?

[dewbie42]

Anyone who initiates deadly force against someone should face execution.

(defence of yourself, someone else, your property, or the property of others is not considered initiating).

[fczwartek]

In 2007 the US ranked 5th in the world in the number of state sanctioned executions.

The other top four were; China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan.

Capital punishment is a trademark of totalitarian theocracies and despotic regimes. It has no place in a modern democracy.

[CurtHowland]

"Capital punishment is a trademark of totalitarian theocracies and despotic regimes."

So is imprisonment.

What is your opinion of restitution as opposed to imprisonment?

[fczwartek]

I'm all for restitution. People can get restitution for criminal acts perpetrated against them though civil courts. Actually the burden of proof is lower in civil law than it is in criminal law. It's easier to get restitution than it is to get a criminal conviction.

I think some people do need to be locked up though. That being said, the prison industry in the United States is a disgrace. It is another symptom of a dying democracy.

[CurtHowland]

"Should we apply your logic to him? "

Yep. But then, we all know that "I was only following orders" is no defense, too. So the entire US military is in an interesting position.

Personally, I don't like capital punishment, except at the time of the crime at the hands of the intended victim.

State sponsored murder is still murder.

That said, how does one pay restitution for the taking of a life? I don't know.

[luxordeathbed]

First time responding here. The jury was out for 13 hours over 4 days. They are the ones who decided death. Not the government. They are the implementers of the final punishment. That is another story vs cost and stuff. Didn't think of the appeals and other things.

Take the trash out as far as I am concerned.

[rataMacue22]

Life w/out parole would most certainly be more expensive.

Would the murder of a child - or any other common citizen - carry the same penalty? Of course not. To expand on that, would a cop who unjustly kills a citizen be dealt ANY form of punishment (besides paid suspension - vacation)? Doubtful.

Welcome to the government of hypocrisy.

Do as we say, not as we do.

Two wrongs don't make a right... unless, of course, it's the gov't committing the 2nd wrong.

[RidleyReport]

in the 80s the average monetary cost for a death penalty was a lot higher than the cost of a 40 year prison stay. This because of heavy legal costs involved. But I don't know if that is still the case.

[rataMacue22]

Wow, that's astonishing to me. Thanks for the correction. I couldn't find an average cost per death penalty, but many sources do say it is more expensive than life imprisonment.

State prison average (national) cost per inmate per year in 2001: $22,650. (US DOJ)

Total cost of death penalty is 38% greater than total cost of life without parole sentences. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)

I never would've guessed that.

[hubbardpt]

The cost is high based on appeals. I say hang him. Give him to the people and let us deal with the situation.

[highline121]

What is interesting is that right now if they were to execute him - they would HAVE to hang him. NH does not have a death chamber for lethal injection - but does have a gallows.

[hubbardpt]

We do not gallows. The area where the gallows were is now office space. We will ship him to Indiana or Ohio, to a federal facility.

[abcmole]

That is because of lawyer fees. The lawyers can basically charge whatever they want during the many, many, many appeals, and they do, man, they do.

Since most politicians are lawyers (which seems like a conflict of interest) the law is never changed into something reasonable. If you can butter your bread and eat it, why not spread the butter fast and thick?

[1eich]

he murdered a human being did he not??

[CurtHowland]

How can he give restitution to the victim's family if he's dead?

[beebo02]

they will have received it via the death penalty

[beebo02]

It can't cost anymore than the money you're wasting with courts, bailout money, etc. with your foolish endeavors

[TEBON]

were there not questions as to why the gentleman was being continually harassed by the police? I don't agree that a harassment should lead to a murder, but I also believe that there is a line and the officer might have crossed it. I don't believe we'll hear the whole story, which is unfortunate.

OF course no one would die if they killed a child, only if they kill a sacred police officer.

[CurtHowland]

Thanks Tebon, that last point (the murder of a mere human being, rather than a sacred Officer) was one I was going to make.

I know nothing about the incident itself. Why was the cop in a position to be shot in the first place?

And THAT is a question that would never get asked in the mainstream media either.

[hubbardpt]

The question was answered. If you paid attention to the media you would get it.

[CurtHowland]

Media? Good sir, here in North Carolina I've heard nothing about it.

I also consider it a question that should always be asked. Thank you for letting me know that it has been answered. I hope it was answered to your satisfaction.

[AnarchyInYourHead]

I oppose the death penalty consistently. I don't trust a monopolized state court to make the right decisions about right or wrong in general and I find that particularly troublesome with such a serious sentence. These are very good questions to ask.