I loved the vintage clips, Robert. What an imagination you have. Look at the way people used to dress back then. There was a dignity with one's appearance that's been lost somehow. Trains, still holds magic for me.
Ok well i come back daily to try and make my vid a response. It wont allow me to select that vid! So im attaching something else, just in hopes that you will go to edit vids, and remove all responses. Then ill keep trying to attach "Track Marks" - Ill keep trying cause im Prissy Persistant, and that video belongs here dangit!!
Well go remove all responses. Then require approval for responses. SAVE.. then it should reset and allow me to respond . I mean thats all i can think to do to tweak the system!! Happy Sunday!! ah a nice lazy Sunday!
I'm still amazed moving images can do that. Sometimes we'll believe anything that is put in front of us and respond to it in an emotional way as long as the filmmaker builds trust from the start.
Very cool!! I've never been on a train myself, but have always wanted to. This did make me feel like I was experiencing another time, long ago. Great job!
Ah, my job is done here then. I seem to be always living in the present and my own past. I think maybe most people do that. Whistle us a happy tune, will you?
You can watch a movie with your eyes closed. I learned it's all about sound. So I was really frustrated with the weak sound components in imovie. Onward.
Now you know why I still use iMovieHD 06 for nearly every project... iMovie08 on my computer sucks for mixing sound, and I don't know about later versions...
You're so right. I believe they fixed the timeline in later versions of imovie. In my version you can no longer download finished projects back to DV. I'm moving on to the challenge of Final Cut.
Hi Robert. I've never been on a train but I've always wanted to. Your old train footage was filmed at a time when people were more civil to one another. Hopefully one day I'll get to experience riding on the rails... but not in one of those trains that go over 200 miles an hour. Good grief! haha. Hugs!
Thanks for your patience with this. I'm learning new skills with this video. Each video brings me closer to understanding the world around me and actually closer to people on YouTube. It's nice how that works out. Stay warm.
Very cool video Robert! For some reason I prefer the past more! I had a couple of bad experiences on trains so I shy away from them now, unless I go with a friend or a group you won't see me riding on them!
I did make it a response. But it wont show. And i cant "re-respond" with same vid.. You Tube glitchy? ill keep refreshing as the days pass and the train cars clang clang claroom!
Hi Robert, Just last week we took a tour of the Silver Zephyer. It's a train which is permenately displayed at a Chicago Museum. Just stepping on board immediately connects you to the past. Everytime I walk into an old building or historic place the first thing I usually think is....wow, if these walls could talk.
I used to ride a copy of that train in the Central Valley of CA where I was raised. I pretty much grew up with the image of freight trains never anything fancy.
Stunning footage, Sir Pineapple! I was a child during the steam era. I rode trains and found them intensely fascinating, slept in a Pullman or two, and even had a Great Uncle who was an engineer. This collection brings some of those memories into the present, and indeed blends the present with those memories.
I didn't start riding trains until my early twenties. Many of the old stations were still in fair condition. Train stations to me hold memories of leaving home for the first time and returning with a little knowledge of the wold.
I ride a subway train every day underneath the city. And I've never been able to resist a feeling of doom. It's always a little nerve wracking. Maybe a little of that came out in this video.
Phew! I thought we lost you to the storm of the century. I was ready to unleash the Saint Bernard to search for you under a pile of snow. Glad you survived.
Interesting concept, Robert! And very well executed! The sound of the train on the tracks is like a lullaby to me...and brings back many memories when I hear that lulling...:-)
It seemed we used to have to stop at train tracks all the time when I was little. Men used to ride under the freight cars back then, and I remember wanting to be one of them just riding off endlessly.
I think it was about four including a few jerky shots in the train station across town. I think this is the last time I use imovie for editing. It doesn't handle sound files very well.
FCP is amazing but it takes more than the handbooks to learn. "Final Cut Pro" visual quickpro guide was helpful but you still need the manuals and time. Trouble-shooting can be mysterious because there is no index of error messages. Thats FCP's biggest weakness.
It's one of the few things we share in our physical world with people who lived a hundred years ago--the sound and comfort of trains. It's in our bones.
Wow...I love trains...enjoy riding in the 'club car' and have even had a 'sleeper compartment'. There is something so mysteriously romantic about riding the rails..I love the scent of train stations as well.
It sure seems like a simpler time back then, Jr. I think technology has created a need for things we can do without. Okay, maybe I can do without a cellphone but not a computer.
When I was 9, I road a train from PA to GA. I don't remember it really, just flashes of feelings. This video gave me a strange feeling of my own past.
twish1999, thank you. I took the train down the peninsula to catch a Charlie Chaplin film, and I was half in the present and half in the past in my imagination. I wanted to make a video that captured that feeling.
That brought back a lot of memories for me. I loved riding the train way back when. Flying is quicker, but a lot of wait time and hassle at the airports.
You put a lot of work into this video. It turned out great!
I can't imagine a kid growing up without the sound of a freight train passing through town once in a while. The sound of it was loud and exciting and thrilling, and I couldn't wait. Okay, I guess you can tell there wasn't much else to do in town.
just wrote a nice comment and youtube ate it, of course. in short: love the vid, love to ride trains particularly ICEs in Europe, love the whole feel of this vid though i did get flashes of Holocaust in my head at times [was that intentional?]
Ah, Holocaust, heavens no. It never crossed my mind. Someone did mention an end-of-the-world feeling, but I believe my original intention was to convey the feeling I get of being connected to the past in some way when I ride a train. Holocaust, hmmmm. Get you!
aw, 99, don't let my brain freak ya out - your vid is great and not creepy - its just that any 30s or 40s footage of trains has that feel if you have seen a lot of WWII footage... i also lived over there where they still have some trams from the 50s in service... i dunno... ignore me? ;)
Something about the train station puts me in the past, it really hasn't changed too much.Except people don't dress quite so dapper nowadays.Nice work.
I was in the train station in San Jose a couple of weeks ago, and I just wanted to hang out there. But people who do that usually wear greasy trench coats and wink at you. That's so not me.
I wish i could stick a thumb drive in my Dad and see all the things he has seen like this.Lol! He's 94 and in pretty good shape but listening to him talk about all the forms of transport he has seen is not the same as seeing them. He delivered Coca Cola with a horse and wagon.
I remember the old steam trains pulling into Lime Street Station here in Liverpool when i was a tiny child... i thought they were monsters who wanted to eat me...but i still look back on that time with nostalgia
i very much enjoyed the editing, blending, and flow you created here, robert. you captured the feeling of being enmeshed in the then and the now at the same time. nice work :)
My grandmother used to take us for walks in the graveyard. What was she thinking? One thing it did do is help me be mindful of the past while still in the present. I tried to do some of that here. I just want to say I almost fell out of my chair when I saw your name. It's nice to see you!
Trains keep us moving in a world that sits still, awaiting our arrival. Im tempted to produce my recent train near orange leaved trees vid as a response. The movement and sound i hear so often each day, but the sound does not tell the story of The Little Engine that could! :D Bravo!!
I love the old and the new..you make this video creating look so easy yet I know there is much work and love put into your projects, ergo they are such a joy to watch.
Thank you for sharing your talent with us Pina and thank you for just being you;)
Hugs
Marylou
ps Happy New Year and may 2010 bring you all that dreams are made of;)
Very nice little compilation Rob! I love to travel. The bustle of train stations, bus depots and airports does something to me. That whisle reminded me of the Steam engines that often rode through our dales on West Yorkshire.
I couldn't find an English voice over for the train station announcer, so I had to use one that said, "Next stop Heathrow." I'm just guessing that's in England.
Robert this makes me so nostalgic.. I only had one train ride when I was a child and I loved it. I am always lonely for a time that I never knew. The late 30's and 40's just seem to be a part of my memories but that would be impossible since I was born in 1949.. Excellent video..
Dolores, I take some sort of train every day here. There's not much to do on a commuter train except sit there and think about what it must have been like a hundred years ago for passengers on the same tracks. At least that's what I do.
I love trains! Especially the older ones. Every so often I take the train to visit my sisters family in Seattle. The train lulls me into a dreamy sleep, with the most interesting travel dreams!
I loved the vintage clips, Robert. What an imagination you have. Look at the way people used to dress back then. There was a dignity with one's appearance that's been lost somehow. Trains, still holds magic for me.
DelisaProductions 1 year ago
imagine what life would be like without transportation
how different the world would be
how much less we would see
and how many few people we would meet
i love trains
especially old ones
they have so much character
excellent put together, sir
Bean829 1 year ago
Great footage, Robert.
Effective editing. I like the overlapping audios.
The latter scenes (of just the tracks) had me thinking of train robberies, ha!
Your projects are eclectic and brilliant.
Clobberbob55 1 year ago
glad to see youre still at it.
you never fail to come up with awesomeness
gswarner 2 years ago
Ur getting goooood....enjoyed very much. I notice povs in most movies~ like this alot :)
sweetqueento3SQ23 2 years ago
Fantastic editing job Robert! I really enjoyed this video!
SueVlogs 2 years ago
great edditing. really enjoyed it
Ninja187Rules 2 years ago
i feel like the train, train song by elvis shoulda been in this video :P
IraqIsWhack 2 years ago
Ok well i come back daily to try and make my vid a response. It wont allow me to select that vid! So im attaching something else, just in hopes that you will go to edit vids, and remove all responses. Then ill keep trying to attach "Track Marks" - Ill keep trying cause im Prissy Persistant, and that video belongs here dangit!!
cooksterz 2 years ago
Cookie, I edited and allowed all responses several times. I'll keep trying.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Well go remove all responses. Then require approval for responses. SAVE.. then it should reset and allow me to respond . I mean thats all i can think to do to tweak the system!! Happy Sunday!! ah a nice lazy Sunday!
cooksterz 2 years ago
I really enjoyed this video. The editing was great. What a wonderful mix of old and new.
timido66 2 years ago
Thank goodness you caught me while I was living in the present.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Nicely put together. Retro and Kodachrome. Bears repeated views to fully apprehend!
Nice to see all the comments here from the YouTube luminaries that once made a habit of commenting on my own videos..
williefogle 2 years ago
Pay no attention to them. They are well paid.
robertpina99 2 years ago
AWESOME!!! I ENJOYED THE RIDE!!
giraffepoo 2 years ago
Hey! All the best in the new year.
I hope all your sewing projects go well.
You keep us in stitches.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Sewing??? You're so silly!!! hahahahhahha!!!
Hope your new year is awesome!!..keep ridin' that train!!
giraffepoo 2 years ago
As always, Bravo :)
dhaneyart 2 years ago
Thank you for taking the A-Train. Peace and love.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Thanks for the ride.
beatmover 2 years ago
Not exactly the midnight train to Georgia. But, oh so smooth. Thanks for taking the train.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I loved this. You got emotional content without dialog or music!!
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
I'm still amazed moving images can do that. Sometimes we'll believe anything that is put in front of us and respond to it in an emotional way as long as the filmmaker builds trust from the start.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Very cool!! I've never been on a train myself, but have always wanted to. This did make me feel like I was experiencing another time, long ago. Great job!
WhistlersBrother 2 years ago
Ah, my job is done here then. I seem to be always living in the present and my own past. I think maybe most people do that. Whistle us a happy tune, will you?
robertpina99 2 years ago
I like the way you blended footage from different times and places to tell one story... Your editing is superb!
fehquig 2 years ago
You can watch a movie with your eyes closed. I learned it's all about sound. So I was really frustrated with the weak sound components in imovie. Onward.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Now you know why I still use iMovieHD 06 for nearly every project... iMovie08 on my computer sucks for mixing sound, and I don't know about later versions...
fehquig 2 years ago
You're so right. I believe they fixed the timeline in later versions of imovie. In my version you can no longer download finished projects back to DV. I'm moving on to the challenge of Final Cut.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I am very interested in seeing the results, and also to try out Final Cut myself someday...
fehquig 2 years ago
FCP was hard to master but now its a snap, and for the life of me I have never been able to use iMovie. Was that designed by humans?
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
If you see any tutorials send them my way. I'm having a hard time finding tutorials from start to finish that are not produced by teenagers.
robertpina99 2 years ago
There is a on-line tutorial site "lydia" you need a account tho. Its easier for me to learn by book than video because I can set the pace.
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
Hi Robert. I've never been on a train but I've always wanted to. Your old train footage was filmed at a time when people were more civil to one another. Hopefully one day I'll get to experience riding on the rails... but not in one of those trains that go over 200 miles an hour. Good grief! haha. Hugs!
imperceptibleme 2 years ago
Thanks for your patience with this. I'm learning new skills with this video. Each video brings me closer to understanding the world around me and actually closer to people on YouTube. It's nice how that works out. Stay warm.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Very cool video Robert! For some reason I prefer the past more! I had a couple of bad experiences on trains so I shy away from them now, unless I go with a friend or a group you won't see me riding on them!
POPARTPRODUCTlONS 2 years ago
Oops, that comment posted before I finished! Anyway, I enjoyed the ride and I hope you have a safe and happy New Year! Later, pops
POPARTPRODUCTlONS 2 years ago
Bad experiences on a train, huh? The conductor doesn't like it when you refuse to pay, if that's the issue.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I did make it a response. But it wont show. And i cant "re-respond" with same vid.. You Tube glitchy? ill keep refreshing as the days pass and the train cars clang clang claroom!
cooksterz 2 years ago
Hi Robert, Just last week we took a tour of the Silver Zephyer. It's a train which is permenately displayed at a Chicago Museum. Just stepping on board immediately connects you to the past. Everytime I walk into an old building or historic place the first thing I usually think is....wow, if these walls could talk.
mshockey73 2 years ago
I used to ride a copy of that train in the Central Valley of CA where I was raised. I pretty much grew up with the image of freight trains never anything fancy.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I remember those old trolley cars.
Mooz
moomay11649 2 years ago
Hi, moomay.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I love trains! You certainly achieved what you set out to do. Great editing. All the best in the new year! = )
Pippilly 2 years ago
Happy New Year to you ; }
robertpina99 2 years ago
great little film Robert. Superb editing - I was really drawn in. Loved the mix of the shaky zoomed clock with the old footage.
I take a train several times a week to go to school. I thought about taking the car but the train has a certain je ne sais quioi :)
LeSaMilano 2 years ago
Wear a trench coat next time and a hat like Lauren Bacall and glance at a stranger in passing. It's a look he'll never forget.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Stunning footage, Sir Pineapple! I was a child during the steam era. I rode trains and found them intensely fascinating, slept in a Pullman or two, and even had a Great Uncle who was an engineer. This collection brings some of those memories into the present, and indeed blends the present with those memories.
Excellent work!
anmoose 2 years ago
I didn't start riding trains until my early twenties. Many of the old stations were still in fair condition. Train stations to me hold memories of leaving home for the first time and returning with a little knowledge of the wold.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I ride a subway train every day underneath the city. And I've never been able to resist a feeling of doom. It's always a little nerve wracking. Maybe a little of that came out in this video.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Interesting because I felt the anticipation of something really really bad. Then it ended. So you got the emotional content across
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
Very good footage and editing Mr. Pina!
VictorTheGr8 2 years ago
Phew! I thought we lost you to the storm of the century. I was ready to unleash the Saint Bernard to search for you under a pile of snow. Glad you survived.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Love the Tibetan bowl-like background. You are so talented. I think I might vlog about you ;)
authorgirlpetparent 2 years ago
I guess this means I have to make a talkie video, and I'm not very good at that. I want everyone to know you.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Interesting concept, Robert! And very well executed! The sound of the train on the tracks is like a lullaby to me...and brings back many memories when I hear that lulling...:-)
GreatGig1 2 years ago
It seemed we used to have to stop at train tracks all the time when I was little. Men used to ride under the freight cars back then, and I remember wanting to be one of them just riding off endlessly.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Amazing! How many separate films was that? With your own footage too, jerky camera motion and on the big wall clock.
I'll be back later for more endless gushing and minute dissection of your ouvre (or what ever the fancy word for "body of work" is.)
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
I think it was about four including a few jerky shots in the train station across town. I think this is the last time I use imovie for editing. It doesn't handle sound files very well.
robertpina99 2 years ago
FCP is amazing but it takes more than the handbooks to learn. "Final Cut Pro" visual quickpro guide was helpful but you still need the manuals and time. Trouble-shooting can be mysterious because there is no index of error messages. Thats FCP's biggest weakness.
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
Quite interesting... it conjured up fleeting memories, emotions...
dorotwhy 2 years ago
It's one of the few things we share in our physical world with people who lived a hundred years ago--the sound and comfort of trains. It's in our bones.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Wow...I love trains...enjoy riding in the 'club car' and have even had a 'sleeper compartment'. There is something so mysteriously romantic about riding the rails..I love the scent of train stations as well.
Excellent editing Robert.
Hugs~Nancy
nancyleeould 2 years ago
Nancy, that's something I haven't done--slept on a train. It's seems so natural to be rocked to sleep that way. Its on my todo list.
robertpina99 2 years ago
This makes me wish to go back to a simpler time...or was it?
jrsnyderjr 2 years ago
It sure seems like a simpler time back then, Jr. I think technology has created a need for things we can do without. Okay, maybe I can do without a cellphone but not a computer.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Dude that was awesome editing and footage, it had an "end of the world" feel to it though for some strange reason.
Chivalryaintdead 2 years ago
Nice, nice. Everyone reacts to it differently. Most find that it brings up memories, but I like the end of the world feeling. Awesome!
robertpina99 2 years ago
When I was 9, I road a train from PA to GA. I don't remember it really, just flashes of feelings. This video gave me a strange feeling of my own past.
Thanks for the memories!
jabbabird 2 years ago
RobertPina99, i enjoyed watching this video very much.. i think you did a wonderful job with it, very atmospheric
:-)
twish1999 2 years ago
twish1999, thank you. I took the train down the peninsula to catch a Charlie Chaplin film, and I was half in the present and half in the past in my imagination. I wanted to make a video that captured that feeling.
robertpina99 2 years ago
That brought back a lot of memories for me. I loved riding the train way back when. Flying is quicker, but a lot of wait time and hassle at the airports.
You put a lot of work into this video. It turned out great!
nek1555 2 years ago
I can't imagine a kid growing up without the sound of a freight train passing through town once in a while. The sound of it was loud and exciting and thrilling, and I couldn't wait. Okay, I guess you can tell there wasn't much else to do in town.
robertpina99 2 years ago
just wrote a nice comment and youtube ate it, of course. in short: love the vid, love to ride trains particularly ICEs in Europe, love the whole feel of this vid though i did get flashes of Holocaust in my head at times [was that intentional?]
snarkdetriomphe 2 years ago
Ah, Holocaust, heavens no. It never crossed my mind. Someone did mention an end-of-the-world feeling, but I believe my original intention was to convey the feeling I get of being connected to the past in some way when I ride a train. Holocaust, hmmmm. Get you!
robertpina99 2 years ago
aw, 99, don't let my brain freak ya out - your vid is great and not creepy - its just that any 30s or 40s footage of trains has that feel if you have seen a lot of WWII footage... i also lived over there where they still have some trams from the 50s in service... i dunno... ignore me? ;)
snarkdetriomphe 2 years ago
never ignore Snark.
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
Something about the train station puts me in the past, it really hasn't changed too much.Except people don't dress quite so dapper nowadays.Nice work.
1liljet 2 years ago
I was in the train station in San Jose a couple of weeks ago, and I just wanted to hang out there. But people who do that usually wear greasy trench coats and wink at you. That's so not me.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I wish i could stick a thumb drive in my Dad and see all the things he has seen like this.Lol! He's 94 and in pretty good shape but listening to him talk about all the forms of transport he has seen is not the same as seeing them. He delivered Coca Cola with a horse and wagon.
RedneckResponder 2 years ago
Photographs of that would make a pretty good video. I dare you.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Beautiful editing, Robert. I love old trains but have never been on a train, new or old. I really feel I've missed out on an important experience.
Perroquet51 2 years ago
You've never been on a train?
I remember the old steam trains pulling into Lime Street Station here in Liverpool when i was a tiny child... i thought they were monsters who wanted to eat me...but i still look back on that time with nostalgia
twish1999 2 years ago
i very much enjoyed the editing, blending, and flow you created here, robert. you captured the feeling of being enmeshed in the then and the now at the same time. nice work :)
txnrobin 2 years ago
My grandmother used to take us for walks in the graveyard. What was she thinking? One thing it did do is help me be mindful of the past while still in the present. I tried to do some of that here. I just want to say I almost fell out of my chair when I saw your name. It's nice to see you!
robertpina99 2 years ago
aww, hugs to ya robert
txnrobin 2 years ago
HI Robin! nice to see you :)
LeSaMilano 2 years ago
hiya Lesley!! :)
txnrobin 2 years ago
hiya Robin! Stickam?
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
Heya lifey!!! Maybe this weekend if I can catch anybody around!!
txnrobin 2 years ago
Trains keep us moving in a world that sits still, awaiting our arrival. Im tempted to produce my recent train near orange leaved trees vid as a response. The movement and sound i hear so often each day, but the sound does not tell the story of The Little Engine that could! :D Bravo!!
cooksterz 2 years ago
Do it!
robertpina99 2 years ago
less than 1 hour - choo choo
cooksterz 2 years ago
nothing has really changed in the last 60 years except fashion.
as always robert. MOST ENTERTAINING AND ENJOYABLE.
michael
mettanc 2 years ago
Hi, michael. I felt the same way until I saw a guy in a hoop skirt the other day. Thing certainly have changed.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I love how you blended all the clips. SOme from new some from old. Some old running thru new. Like the train crossing... Nice work man!
oWHONERSo 2 years ago
I'm gonna start calling you, The Won. Naw, you already have a nickname. Thanks.
robertpina99 2 years ago
I just love trains.. this video made me smile from ear to ear.. :) :)
BasicModelling 2 years ago
You bring the same joy to me in your airplanes.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Thank you.. and in case I don't get the opportunity to say it again.. HAPPY NEW YEAR!! :)
BasicModelling 2 years ago
I love the old and the new..you make this video creating look so easy yet I know there is much work and love put into your projects, ergo they are such a joy to watch.
Thank you for sharing your talent with us Pina and thank you for just being you;)
Hugs
Marylou
ps Happy New Year and may 2010 bring you all that dreams are made of;)
blueclouds4me 2 years ago
That's a nice New Years wish. I hope to be very busy. Less of me here means there's more of me in the world.
robertpina99 2 years ago
What a fabulous mix - did you get a blender for Christmas?
That took me back to... when? Last Friday I think!
MrRandomWritings 2 years ago
I did get a blender, but it's strictly for margarita mix.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Very nice little compilation Rob! I love to travel. The bustle of train stations, bus depots and airports does something to me. That whisle reminded me of the Steam engines that often rode through our dales on West Yorkshire.
Clarachk 2 years ago
I couldn't find an English voice over for the train station announcer, so I had to use one that said, "Next stop Heathrow." I'm just guessing that's in England.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Heathrow is in London my dear.
;o)
Clarachk 2 years ago
Robert this makes me so nostalgic.. I only had one train ride when I was a child and I loved it. I am always lonely for a time that I never knew. The late 30's and 40's just seem to be a part of my memories but that would be impossible since I was born in 1949.. Excellent video..
Dlorezzz 2 years ago
Dolores, I take some sort of train every day here. There's not much to do on a commuter train except sit there and think about what it must have been like a hundred years ago for passengers on the same tracks. At least that's what I do.
robertpina99 2 years ago
Love travelling by train!
In my childhood all journeys started with an often long train ride...a wonderfull mix of settling in, relaxing, excitement and anticipation.
sprichbeeke 2 years ago
And who can forget that far off train whistle on a summer night those many years ago?
robertpina99 2 years ago
There is a Ray Bradberry novel that starts like that.
livelifealwaystoo 2 years ago
I love trains! Especially the older ones. Every so often I take the train to visit my sisters family in Seattle. The train lulls me into a dreamy sleep, with the most interesting travel dreams!
hallbe 2 years ago
Take your camcorder on your next visit.
robertpina99 2 years ago