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  • I dont know why you are all comparing KoTOR and TES/Skyrim. They are about as different from one another as RPGs can get. KoTOR is an amazing story driven experience, it has a tale like no other. To me, KoTOR is the game I've most connected with EVER. Skyrim, is an epic open world adventure. You are free to explore. Its a world full of beauty and mystery. The amount of lore in Skyrim is heavily dependent on how you play it. What do both have in common? AMAZING music by the genius Jeremy Soule.

  • who agrees kotor 1 was about 20 times better than kotor 2 ???

  • @selectedsnake6 i ultimately agree!

  • listening to the soundtrack reminds me how much of a masterpiece kotor is and will always be.

  • Best theme of the game

  • When I play this music on my iPod and put it next to my ear... I close my eyes and try to soften my eyes and think about peace, it is what we all start to feel after all the pain we have been through, all the suffering and ruthless injuries our heart has absorbed, this music feels like its cleansing away all of it

  • Skyrim, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, SWtOR...they have one thing in common:

    They aint got no shit compared to KotOR I & II!

  • @CarrickBuff10 sorry, but the mass effect series is much better than kotor 2. and so is swtor for that matter. and it isn't obsidian games' falt. they were forced to release an unfinished game by lucasarts. if the game was finished (and not so INCREDIBLY easy) then maybe it would have been better.

  • @Xanatos2458

    That's just your opinion.

  • @CarrickBuff10 So is your post. It's the truth about the game not being finished though. Ever wonder why there's no HK-50 droid factory mission? It was cut. That mysterious door in the Czerka Base on Telos? Cut for time. Apparently you were supposed to play all the stuff Kreia talks about at the end. There are restoration mods out there though, but none of them restore all of the lost content :(

  • Oh Bastila, my very first video game love :)

  • Statement: This is awesome!!

  • @Dennis23BAL Clarification: Your "statement" was in fact not so. It was an exclamation.

  • yo I got skyrim and its NOTHING compare to kotor 1 and 2

  • Nostalgia just hit me like crap.... remember the temple on Lehon, and going to the top and finding Bastila, only she's been turned to the Dark Side. I saw it coming, but I still felt the pain of losing your loved one to the Dark Side.

  • God KOTOR was the best game ever made and the music is defenetly something incredible in this game

  • A KOTOR movie would rock my world. I don't f'n understand why it isn't made yet. . .

  • @TheMissingGuru

    It'd be a massive extension to the current star wars universe. I'd be all for it. Love your thinking.

  • @TheMissingGuru HBO miniseries would work best

  • I remember hearing this when i was about 11 years old looking out of the windows of taris, this game has to be one of the greatest games ever made, and i'm so sad that i know there will never be another like this.

  • @ReconBreeze

    I really like the look of the old republic, but my computer can't run it....

    Once I get my mac's cd drive fixed I'm gonna play this for hours

  • 1:30 inspiration to - The Immolation Scene.

  • Stop bringing in Skyrim in Star Wars, Star Wars clearly is better.

  • @narutoguy304 you got that right

  • @narutoguy304 i will stop saying whicth one is better. Both Skyrim and KOTOR are great games already! sheesh, this little skyrim vs kotor is stupid as mw3 vs bf3

  • @narutoguy304

    Yeah bro I am bored from Skyrim BIG TIME...

  • @Yvieneify Yeah i have it an i beat it. Hey at least when im replying to you about Skyrim im not saying stupid Arrow to the Knee Jokes. :P

  • @narutoguy304 lol who would ever say that skyrim is better?

  • @narutoguy304 i know right? since I discovered the FORCE, I just don't like medieval times anymore.

  • If you play skyrim, you see that there is a song that sounds the same as this one. At this part: 0:34

  • this song play in the old republic as well. cant wait to see what other soundtracks from kotor ill find in tor

  • @chris200830 Oh, really? In what scene?

  • @TackyNames on taris, after you've completed certain quests, this song starts playing

  • @chris200830 This plays on Taris when you're inside your apartment.

  • @chris200830 Also when you fight bastilla atop the temple.

  • I have beat the gsme severl times I love this game it will never die

  • omg when i was playing kotor i fell asleep while being in the temple before fighting Bastail

  • You can hear this song in TOR if you play a Jedi Consular up to around level 8 or so. I was really happy it made a return.

  • 200+ hours on this game and counting :o

  • @hitnrunner303 I've got thousands, and I regret nothing >.>

  • @hitnrunner303 Looking at Steam... I have 378 on one account and 79 on the other ^^, still, not as bad as my Gmod record of 1359 :)

  • @hitnrunner303 hehe i've had 567 according to xfire, and i played this game on xbox for a long time years ago, good times gone :'(

  • This was the First video on Youtube, I ever saw. Back in 2007. Brings back memories of old YT.

  • I was playing Skyrim and I heard a track that had the same melody from 0:34. Did anyone else notice that? It immediately made me think of KOTOR

  • @spectre2575

    Actually, soundtracks of KoTOR and Skyrim (as well as Morrowind and Oblivion) were made by same genius of video game music - Jeremy Soule.

  • I know Revan is in TOR. What does TOR reveal about what happend to Revan and Bastila? and The Exile for that matter? I know cannon was Revan Lightside male, Exile Lightside female.

  • @StrikingShadow1 read Revan the Novel...it was released two weeks ago..you can read it on Scribd.com..cheers!

  • The Revan book is crap, it ruined/retcon Exile.

    Anyway i am glad this theme show up in TOR.

  • @iamjason The Revan book had some good things that felt appropriate with the depth and theme of KOTOR, such as the discussion on why the Sith emperor's way of going about things was self-defeating. However, many of the major plot points in the book sucked ass. Not to mention how they fucked up in general with the very basis of the plot; in KOTOR 2, Kriea reveals revan and the exile did not go to fight a physical battle.

  • @themanclaw2 Bioware have a tendency to ignore Obsidian, so does Lucasarts, Bioware and LA dont get along with Obsidian anymore ^^

  • @iamjason But what about Revan? Did it do him justice?

  • @iamjason I agree. But the book also had some good elements in it definitely. The character talk, the adventure, revan's flash-backs...the emperor's background... But overall it flopped. Not the ending I imagined for one of the greatest characters in the star wars universe.

    I was amazed how much they focused on other characters like Lord Scourge for 70% of the book... AMAZING... What did they wanted to accomplish by neglecting Revan completely only they know.

  • @Xim988

    Easy... because Revan's tale has not ended yet hence why the book was mostly exposition and setup for The Old Republic rather than the wrap-up we all wanted. Also Lord Scourge is going to be playing a very key role in TOR hence the big focus on him. It's a pity but hopefully Bioware will give Revan a proper send-off.

  • @iamjason I loved thee book the Exile was retconned long before although I hated the ending :(

  • @iamjason just pretend the book never happened then. lol

  • @iamjason How did it retcon the Exile?

  • @blakerichardsondude they killed her off.

  • @JonesyLedZeppelin Killing off does not equal retconning

  • @blakerichardsondude I responded to the wrong post. someone else asked what happened to her in the Revan book.

  • @iamjason

    Agreed.

  • @iamjason OMG IT DOES?!!!!!

  • The new Revan book has forced me to make another Revan AND another Jedi exile, thus making me play both KOTORs for the 9th or 10th time. Not that I see a problem with that.

  • @CrimsonAssassin999 What does the Revan book say about what happend to Revan and Bastila?

  • @StrikingShadow1 Well they got married and Bastila had a kid.

  • @CrimsonAssassin999 Oh and that means they fucked.

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  • @StrikingShadow1 dude...you dont whant to know....believe me..YOU DONT

  • miss the game so much.. my pc is 'too new' to play it :/

    . i wish they made it all over again but better... best rpg ever

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  • I got Kotor on steam =D

    Man I love playing it so much.

    I really wish the 2'nd game was available on steam too :c

    I can't find a copy of it anywhere D:

    They were both so good :c

  • I replayed .... and almost want to ago in the gap between beta ending and swtor release

  • KOTOR FILM NOW!!!

  • So beautiful......This IS the greatest video game is the history of the universe.

  • :sniff: Revan is dead.....and he will never see his wife again......

  • @Needler13 no, he is in old republic! :D

  • @Needler13

    ****************MAJOR SPOILER***********************­*******

    DO NOT READ BELOW THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED AS TO REVAN'S FATE

    Revan is still alive. Held in stasis - as a prisoner of the Sith Emperor, who is 'feeding' off him, as well as probin his mind./ Revan wilkl be in TOR - and he's the Jedi Prisoner you have to rescue

  • @RHX2 ...malak much?

    still, i am calling bullshit

    where did you get this information

  • @starwarsfan117

    Its in the recently released 'Revan' novel by Drew Karpashyn. I have the novel and have read it. That is the ending. Also, it was a dead giveaway - if you watched the Taral V walkthrough video that Bioware released earlier this year The novel all but confirmed who that Jedi Prisoner was.

  • @RHX2 ah come on, who in the hell would be powerful enough to subdue revan?

  • @starwarsfan117

    The Sith Emperor, the immoral Sith Emperor that has lived for over 1000 years, and has some scary ass powers you could not imagine. He completely overwhelmed him with a very powerful dark side lightning attack...

  • @RHX2 how is it possible a one thousand year old sith was able to defeat revan??

    ...i must read this book

  • @starwarsfan117

    Because he is a monster in more ways than 1...not just including his power with the dark side......

    Thouygh if it is of any consolation to you, he did land a few good hits against the Emperor and completely owned a Dark Council member - and his actions saved the Republic...

  • @RHX2 yeah well, he best get some back up, because the way you explained it he is in stasis, not dead

  • @starwarsfan117

    I'll send you a PM and tell you some stuff about Revan's fate after the book - since i don't want to post major spoilers here

  • @RHX2 try not to completaly spoil it, as i would like to read the book

  • @starwarsfan117 read it man, i was glad they bought it out. People said it was dissappointing but for me, i was happy to see what happened to meetra surik and of course, revan and bastila, two storylines i have been waiting for a long time. Very interesting stuff

  • @RHX2

    uh, who gives a fuck about the novels? 

  • @gdoddmeta3608

    You, apparently. *rollseyes*

  • @gdoddmeta3608 the novel gives us an insight into what happened to revan and meetra surik (kotor 2 protagonist). And it tells us what to expect in the MMO (disappointment from an RPGs perspective most likely)

  • @apollondelphinios - Damn how long do you have to wait to hear it? First there's TOR's theme, then the theme from KotOR 2...is it after that?

  • who else is going to play this theme the very first time they log into old republic.

  • @woooudoo this theme is actually played in the main menu of the old republic, everytime i wait for it and than i log in :)

  • @apollondelphinios

    how do you have a copy of the game before its even been released already?

  • @woooudoo i am a permanent beta tester :D i'll play it since release

  • @apollondelphinios

    ..superb choice in the games music instead of something new.

  • 6 Mandalorians listened to this song...

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  • right when i got to the top of the rakatan temple and heard this i just shook my fist angerly and said "MALAK!"

  • I went and played this game one more time. I ignored Skyrim. Can you believe that? lol

  • @gMemo92 Although I did play Skyrim instead, I can believe that... I probably would have played it if I could be bothered fixing it... win7 is a pain in the arse -.-

  • @gMemo92 Skyrim, oblivion and star wars kotor. Best games ever

  • @gibbleicious Indeed!

  • @gMemo92 Heh... I might go for my 8th playthrough until TOR is out... nothing else to play and this game never gets old. 

  • @gMemo92 Men Skyrim is a great game, but is not classic. Star Wars The Knights of the Old Republic is something ..... I can not describe, but felling is so good to hear this music and play the game, is just just beautiful.

  • @gMemo92 Me too. I have Skyrim (awesome game) but i have recently installed the Sith Lord Restored Content Mod and i've just finished The Sith Lord. Now i'm playing Kotor.

  • 6 people got killed by Bastilla.

  • I thought it was really sad when you're playing light side and you confront Bastila when she turns to the dark side and this music is playing in the background

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  • Who the hell would dislike this??

  • @RobReignhell

    someone who has no soul.

  • Bastila was, and still is, one of the best characters in all of Star Wars.

  • Damn, this shit almost makes me cry, lol. Such a sad song, epic song. Really captures what Star Wars is all about. Gonna go play KOTOR for the 10th time. :D

  • They say the force can do terrible things to a mind. It can wipe away you memories and destroy your very identity.

    - Carth Onasi.

  • currently replaying this, in the middle of saving her right now god how I love this game :)

  • Such a sad theme. See, if Anakin had had music as tragic and beautiful as this, maybe he wouldn't have come across as such a douchebag in the prequels.

  • Say, maybe they are making the old republic to see if we're still interested so they can make kotor 3!

  • @comicbookfannumber1 spending 100 milion $ only to see if you are still interested? really dude?

  • @apollondelphinios Eh. guess you're right.

  • it really is too bad were not getting kotor 3 :/

  • Geez was she such an amazing character

  • @jerrylu23 she is awesome :D im finishing kotor 4th time right now and it's still co cool

  • My heart is exploding with nostalgia. This song brings back so many memories. ;; I love it.

  • Great theme! It seems kinda sad though.

  • Bioware let me play the beta of TOR. It was... ok. Too MMO for my taste.

  • I decided to try installing KOTOR again. It took about 20 mins of tweaking, but the game works on my Windows 7 PC. My thanks to everyone who posted directions on the internet. I'm so happy!

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  • 0:24-0:34 Is the best part of the song. It really makes me feel weird. Like the Galaxy has just be destroyed or something like that. More like a planet has fallen to the Sith. But this is a new kind of music I hear from Star Wars, I haven't realized this before.

  • @WookieRebellion501 i love how they add the old starwars music at 51 secs :]

  • @WookieRebellion501 0:00-0:24 does it for me. I hadn't listened to it for years. Then I heard this piece of the soundtrack, and it put shivers down my spine. SHIVERS.

  • I FUCKIN LOVE THIS GAME.

  • This song is so epic. Gearing up for SWTOR, I hope they put this song in there! It's gonna be so great!

  • just got the a bastila shan figure and felt the need to check that!

  • @gtabro1337 its greatest figure ever huh i love mine

  • @RockenDokkenlover91 glad you like it, but I think they could have made the face a bit better

  • @gtabro1337 ya that would have to be my least favorite part about it. But the articulation and body sculpt is amazing

  • is stream reliable for buying it off there?

  • amazingly beautiful song, especially at 0:40

  • I was thinking about selling my steam account, but... I got this game on my account. My account has no price.

  • My goodness, that's a lot of work for one game. Sounds like those tricks only work for 1/2 the people using Windows 7. Screw it, I won't waste my money.

  • @TheArnold46 Nah man, I didn't run any tricks. I have the game via ISOs and run it. It works brilliant. It crashes occasionally, but it's an older game running on hardware it wasn't optimized on, it's gonna crash. Then again, I can go without crashing the game for like 5 hours. Soooooo, I mean it's pretty infrequent. I'm on Manaan, and after you get through the Endar Spire (which, for me, was the place where the game crashed the most, that and character creation) it worked really well.

  • This theme is epic, I remember when I played this game for the first time I did my best to bring Bastila off the background light and heard this beautiful theme.

  • Thumbs up if you always wanted to slap the shit out of Bastila for being such a self-righteous bum.

    F*ck you and your stupid battle meditation, bitch!

  • @Gingers666pl Oh yeah, I wanted to slap her several times. That spoiled Jedi Princess needed some manners!

  • This song make me cry .. I'm a Star wars fan since i'm 4, even if i'm a girl. Star Wars Knights of the old Republic I & II are the best games Ever.

  • @xByCalypso Cant wait to see you in the Old Republic, friend. :)

  • eh, i miss this game, the very first rpg i played, didnt know what was an rpg at that itme

  • This music brings back memories. I played KOTOR for a very long time. I wish I still had a working version, but mine wouldn't work on Vista. I'm sure it wouldn't work on Windows 7 either.

  • @TheArnold46 i got a copy of kotor on my windows 7! it's tricky but you can get it working perfectly and if you can't find a new copy in stores buy it off steam.

  • @BombBakers Is there a website that shows how to get KOTOR working on Windows 7? Amazon.com still has the game for $14.

  • @TheArnold46 google it

  • This song is by far my most favorite from the entire game!

    Hats off to the guy who wrote the music for this game, not only is it completely emotional and captures the each scene brilliantly, He didn't use a live orchestra at all, it's all done on a computer via midi, which I think, Is astounding :O

  • @shabba2291

    Jeremy Soule wrote this score, and he's one of the greatest living composers in the industry -- recently listened to several of his compositions for "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim" (due out in a few weeks), and they're stunning.

  • @shabba2291 Jeremy Soule, the guy's pretty good, he wrote amazing music for games like Oblivion or Guild Wars

  • Why there is not an offline version of TOR. I am not able to take a monthly 15€ bill.

  • Bioware please don't ruin revan in TOR

  • They could probably make a movie or two based on this game. While it is mostly up to the player on how to play, there IS a linear unfolding of events in the story with key plot points. Doesn't matter which order the planets are in either, as long as Tatooine was first and Korriban last. As to whether Revan would be male/female or good/evil, I think in Star Wars canon Revan was a lightside male. At least I'd watch a movie based on this game anyway. Who to cast as Bastilla though. Any suggestions?

  • @Macca343 someone extremely hot

  • @Grivahri Indeed, and someone you could easily develop a crush on

  • @Macca343 Kate Beckinsale, perhaps?

  • @TheDarkNinja7 that's actually a great suggestion. she can pull off a british accent and we know she can do stunts having seen her in van helsing and of course underworld. call me crazy but i think ron perlman would be a classic canderous.

  • @Macca343 lol Yeah you are right. I'd pick Perlman as number 1 and for number 2 I'd have Stephen Lang. (The military bad guy from Avatar.)

  • @TheDarkNinja7 lang might be better, considering perlman is like 60. lol. i always thought carth looks like nathan fillion. and considering he's a mega halo fan he'd probably do something from star wars.

  • @Macca343 I agree again. Nathan looks almost exactly like Carth. lol I'm just wondering who'd play Malak?

  • is bastila really worthy of this song? she's fucking nasty hahahah

  • Beautiful game!

  • Sound great.

  • Even though I love them all, this one is my favorite :) It's so beautiful!!

  • It's really sad that I can't lose my KOTOR virginity anymore...I've already beat it like 16 times :(

  • @officialslimshady94 I know, right? D:

  • @bcapenaro1991 right :D

  • its pretty sad that the series wont have a conclusion in the near future, I mean we have KOTOR 1-2, but no 3 and instead we are getting an MMO