Oh, contraire K3val. Tumblety himself admitted he was in the district. Plus, his four counts of gross indecence places him in the London area. To assume he would have continued killing in the US is to embrace a big misconception about serial killers.
There were never evidence of him being in the district, his whereabouts was unknown until he deprted back to NY, also prime suspect from all documents suggest Aaron Kominski as jack the ripper, and doctor from USA wouldn't know the district that well as jack the ripper did. Also, if he was from USA i think he would continue on killing in USA instead of just stoping, killers don;t tend to stop.
@mklhawley thanks for the vid, very good info. would u please be so kind to confirm which cemetery u found dr. tumuelty in? articles on the net stray back & forth from Mt. Hope to Holy Sepulchre & my Cuz & I would like to track him before she has to return home soon.
The problem I find (with myself as well as everyone) with "Ripperologists" is that we become determined to convict one person over everyone else despite the lack of proof. Patricia Cornwell with Walter Sickert, Stephen Knight with the Duke of Clarence, and others with Tumblety, Kosminski, William Gull etc. The truth is we'll most likely never know for sure so let's not pretend we know who the Ripper was, but say who he is most likely to have been.
Also none of the eyewitness descriptions match Tumblety. He was a big man around 5'11" with a huge eccentric moustache, whereas the witnesses said the Ripper was 5'3" to 5'6". He's too circumstantial to accuse with certainty, but nonetheless he was a vile misogynist who certainly had the potential and motive to commit the murders with the expertise and anatomical knowledge for the mutilations.
I still have my doubts about Tumblety being JtR. Just because he had two rings like Annie Chapman's when he died doesn't mean they were hers. She was very poor and would have only been able to afford very cheap jewellery, which would have been very common at the time. If Tumblety kept them as some kind of trophy, why didn't he with the rest of the victims as well?
Aron Kominski had a form of schizophrenia which could certainly make him very dangerous but the crimes don't fit a pattern the killer was a hunter, deliberate cold methodical and not just say frenzied as you might expect from somebody who is suffering schizo disorders would normally lash out when unwell at that moment in time and would most likely stand out,the killer seeming blended with the enviroment well
Tumblety is most likely suspect, the fact he was staying in the geographical area that fbi and modern criminologist now use as a patterns for investigations plus his pathological profile lifestyle,but i think the murderer would have to have local knowlegde of his bearings did tumblety have an accomplice was there more than one involved ? and could he keep his sanity after such a act of brutality,the murders followed where he travelled too after too and the killings ceased after his departure.
It has nothing to do with being cocky. The experts used on these particular shows communicate with each other on a couple of online forums (honestly), and the biggest one is Casebook.org . If you take the time to look, you'll see the show is not entirely correct. I do not have enough space on this to explain. To be convinced of something because of one show (which did not convince the experts) weakens your position. Check it out. I believe you will love it if you liked the show.
Oh, you received your info from a TV show. Keep in mind, the agenda of shows like this is not the truth but to convince you of what they believe is the truth. At the time of the murders, he was one of dozens of Jewish suspects. Keep in mind, he was not witnessed murdering anyone. No one saw the murders. Scotland Yard chose to ignore him, but then decided to revisit his suspect status well after the murders. This negates the show's arguments. As I said, check out Casebook.
Good candidate, but some problems. The eyewitness was Lawlande, who admitted he would not be able to ID Kosminski. Kosminski had no record of violence. Kosminski was not on Scotland Yard's radar until July 1889. The top experts reject him being the best candidate. Check out Casebook.
cont; Liz Stride had a violent partner Michael Kidney and it is possible her death was a domestic dispute (nothing unusual in that by EE standards) but I think one aspect that has not been explored enough (or perhaps I have missed studies on this) is to what extended the canonical 5 (or perhaps we should say canonical 6) were known to each other. There were an estimated 80,000 'ladies of the night' in London with 3,000 in Whitechapel alone so if all six women knew each other that would cont;
certainly be significant (or even if they were connected through being in the same lodgings, workhouses, pubs etc). I don't entirely understand why Martha Tabram is not accepted as being in the canonical group because her death and circumstances of it seem remarkably similiar to the other victims (except perhaps the possibility she had been raped whilst the others weren't). I also saw a youtube docu on Tumblety (unfortunately I forget the link) which adds the very real possibility of him as JTR
In October, part three of Roger Palmer's Inspector Andrews article comes out that will make it absolutely clear Tumblety was considered by Scotland Yard the prime suspect in the Whitechapel murders at the peak of the investigation.
con; that 'Jack' was interupted whilst killing her, hence the level of violence on Catherine Eddowes later is plausible (the concept that an enraged killer was venting his frustration at being interupted on his next victim)- ive actually visited both Berners Street (today Henriques St) in Whitechapel and Mitre Square within the City of London and even 122 years on they have an atmosphere- there are modern apartment blocks and high rise buildings but some of the Victorian buildings still remain;
Martha Tabram) The problem was 'Fairy Fay' probably never existed- the supposed pub she was supposed to have left before her death did not exist and the only records of deaths in London at the time with names similiar to Fairy Fay were women who died of routine health health problems prevelant in the slums. It is likely that journalists confused (or possibly deliberately misreported) two other victims and created this 'victim' Thats why I think there remains such an interest in the continued..
cont... Whitechapel Murders; so many aspects of it are a mystery wrapped inside a puzzle inside an enigma. With 11 victims in total (and only 5 directly attributed to Jack the Ripper) there are many other cases more prolific in numerical terms (even within London, Dennis Nilsen killed 15 young men and the 'Finchley Baby Farmers' killed at least 20 infants) but the difference in other cases seems to be that there was a crime and a perpetrator; with the Whitechapel Murders every aspect of the con;
case provokes numerous questions. I think the nature of the East End at the time also plays a role- dark, dirty, overcrowded, a melting pot of various immigrant groups and whilst there was an organised police force (the Metropolitan Police formed in 1829) efficiency was based on raw senses only (ie catching a felon in the act). Its interesting that even in the tough slums of the East End, where violence was common, the murders provoked an atmosphere of vigilantism and hysteria. Your work cont;
It sucks only getting 500 characters, eh! If you check out Casebook again, you'll see many of my comments on Tumblety. One point about JTR witnesses is that no one saw the murders, so the descriptions are not true murder witnesses; just potentials. Most of the experts on Casebook accept Tabram plus the C5 (canonical five - Nichols, Chapman, Stride, Eddowes, and Kelly) as JTR victims. The Casebook Examiner has an article from Roger Palmer, who makes it clear Dr. T was a serious suspect.
Yes, I know- the 500 characters constantly leads me to press the word verification! Thats a good point that the witnesses are not true witnesses in that sense. Its useful to hear from someone who has actually contributed to the site because its the most comprehensive ive seen. I find it in teresting that Liz Stride is always included- whilst she did die violently in Whitechapel, the wound was apparently struck from a different direction as the other victims; however the concept con;
I have to admit Tumblety is one of the strongest suspects in my book but his homosexuality (homosexual killers tend to only target men) and age (53 at the time of the Whitechapel Murders- most witnesses place the man they saw at 35) weigh against him. Nevertheless, he remains a strong suspect so this is intriguing.
Age has not been an issue for me since I am around 50 and I still feel quite healthy (at least I think!). The homosexual issue focuses upon a sado-sexual motive (ex. Dahmer with his boys). If the motive was hatred of prostitutes, attacking their livelihood would make sense. I have a paper coming out in "Ripperologist", which brings up an entirely different motive based upon the available evidence. Once it comes out, I'll talk about it.
I take your point about age; indeed the witness statements of the time varied and often contradicted one another. In the charged atmosphere of the East End at the time gossip was also rife and so rumours could well have been muddled with facts. Actually im not sure if you are familiar with the comprehensive 'Casebook' website but in that there is an alalysis of a very early alleged victim named 'Fairy Fay' who was killed in Whitechapel in Christmas 1887 (allmost a year before cont
Scotland Yard Considered Tumblety the prime suspect at the peak of the investigation (Nov 14). He was arrested, and he then jumped bail to the US. The murders stopped. They could not extradict him back to London, because NO ONE saw the murders. This was before blood-typing, fingerprinting, ect., so not enough evidence. This is not conjecture; these are the facts.
im sure he was the ripper. hated women,kept vaginas in jars. was a doctor.he knew london well, was living on batty street which near the middle of all the spots where the murder took place. in fact the third murder took place on the same street. his writing is very similar to that of the letter from the letter from hell with the human kidney. his landlord so him come back on the night of the double murder had blood on him. fled to america leaving a blood starined garmen.
@nosebuzz I like your thinking. I believe the door had a spring-loaded lock (and the key was lost) and locked when it was closed. Kelly, her friend prostitutes, and participating Johns, opened the door through the broken glass window. It certainly does seem JTR knew to open the door this way. JTR could have followed Kelly with a John, watch her open the door this way, and after the John left, he sneeked in while she was sleeping. Mike
@odin422 there is no way the killings were done by the freemasons or royal family,, ive looked into everything and it wouldnt be possible, it was the work of a local madman or men,, it would have came out by now other wise.
tumblety could have and is capable of killing the first 4 canonial victims, but it took a specail person to kill the fith victim. tumblety could have stabed, sliced, and cut away the fist four victims. marry kellys case was different. the killer went out of his way to dehumanize her after she was dead. i dont think a character like tumblety could do it. i think some guy that was eating food from the gutter because voices in his head told him to could do it. my suspect is kosminsky
You may be right, but... Notice the Hare Psychopathy checklist for an aggressive narcissist: Glibness/superficial charm, Grandiose sense of self-worth, Pathological lying, Cunning/manipulative, Lack of remorse or guilt, Shallow affect (expressing emotions deceptively), Callous/lack of empathy, Failure to accept responsibility for own actions. Each one is classic Tumblety, and also serial killers. The JTR pattern is more than a series of insane impulses but of methological deliberateness.
i dont think marry kelly's killer was into money, materials, or fame that most violent criminals are into. so i would not expect jack the ripper to have a violent past. i think jack the ripper acted on his insane impulse. but there are alot of other insane suspect. why kosminsky? he was the only one identified by a witness. this is what i think.
i like kosminsky as a suspect. that dude was insane. someone who can mutilate marry kelly like that must be insane. mean, cold hearted, selfish, jealousy people dont mutilate other people. sadist can mutilate, but jack the ripper was not a sadist. jack the ripper must have been an o.k. guy in public. his victims felt comfortable with him even when news came out about about a crazy killer. what do u guys think
Do you happen to have any other footage on Tumblety?
I've been searching a long time now for something I saw on tv with my father.. it convinced us this could be the man!!
We have looked everywhere for it.. the 'Littlechild' letter was a main point and the show we saw also had re-enactments and an interview with a collector and investigator.
If you could help us out in anyway.. even if you know what show I might have seen, that would be absolutely great!!
My guess is a MysteryQuest episode in November 1999. Check on its website for previous episodes. The author is Stewart Evans (Jack the Ripper: The First American Serial Killer).
i lie from hell, it was spooky, everything is like London, especially in 1888, they did a good job, on the movie, but it was just what people thought happened,whoever the ripper was, he was crazy...
I've attempted to reply a message to you four times, and each one has been unsuccessful. There is a website forum where all of the JTR experts/authors discuss issues. You are welcome to join and talk with them. I will send it in the next post.
Thank you for your help, I found and watched the episode! The one I saw years ago was actually a different show, but I was very happy to see something new!!
Stewart Evans is the man who I was referring too!
I guess I have a new book to read and still more hunting for the original old tv show with Mr.Evans!
more real proof of the ripper, just on walter sickert. pictures of the murder scenes, he did a painting that nobody saw, except patricia cornwall, was called jack the rippers bedroom, signatures matched, on one of the ripper letters he wrote Mr Nobody, that was walter sickerts stage name.... he knew too much details...
sounds good, alot of suspects have stuff on them, and i wish i could find who this ripper is, does this doctor have any excisting family, that police can get DNA...
watch Patrica cornwalls ripper case about Walter sickert, but alot of suspects have clues, etc, we dont have DNA now, but ive been to whitechapel, i know everything about the case, want info on the ripper, send me a message...
I replied to this, but I don't see it. Oh well, I'll try again. I like Aaron Kosminski, especially b/c Scotland Yard considered him a serious suspect. Two issues I have, though. First, he was not considered a suspect until 2 years later, and second, he had no viiolent history.
this is what i wonder. i hope u can clearify. if scotland yard released tumblety on 16th of november who killed marry kelly. ms. kelly was killed in the 9th of november. why would scotland yard follow him to america if ms. kelly was killed when tumblety was in jail. just wondering
Tumblety was not released on the 16th of November. All JTR experts, even those that do not support Tumblety, agree that Tumblety was freed before Mary Kelly was murdered on November 9th. The Littlechild letter explains that Tumblety certainly was a suspect, and in Tumblety's interview he admits being arrested for the Whitechapel killings.
police were even watching him, when he lived on batty street in whitechapel, one of the ripper letters had a kidney that belonged to someone from a morgue too, and not the victims.
Oh, contraire K3val. Tumblety himself admitted he was in the district. Plus, his four counts of gross indecence places him in the London area. To assume he would have continued killing in the US is to embrace a big misconception about serial killers.
NCCCHPE 3 months ago
@NCCCHPE And what is that, that they get satisfied and stop?
gomerpyleism 2 days ago
There were never evidence of him being in the district, his whereabouts was unknown until he deprted back to NY, also prime suspect from all documents suggest Aaron Kominski as jack the ripper, and doctor from USA wouldn't know the district that well as jack the ripper did. Also, if he was from USA i think he would continue on killing in USA instead of just stoping, killers don;t tend to stop.
K3val 3 months ago
Trying to prove someone was Jack the Ripper is about as easy as proving that (insert name of person and/or organization) killed JFK.
baraxor 5 months ago
You may want to read about the Maybrick hoax. Check Casebook
mklhawley 6 months ago
james maybrick was jack the ripper
sid203 6 months ago
@mklhawley thanks for the vid, very good info. would u please be so kind to confirm which cemetery u found dr. tumuelty in? articles on the net stray back & forth from Mt. Hope to Holy Sepulchre & my Cuz & I would like to track him before she has to return home soon.
PlentyGorgeous 7 months ago
@PlentyGorgeous It is the Holy Sepulchre Cemetary on Lake Avenue. It's in the middle of section 13.
mklhawley 7 months ago
@mklhawley thank u greatly! we appreciate it so much. not exactly a happy discovery, but still very noteworthy, so much obliged.
PlentyGorgeous 7 months ago
Thanks for uploading this.
ROCKSLIDZ 7 months ago
The problem I find (with myself as well as everyone) with "Ripperologists" is that we become determined to convict one person over everyone else despite the lack of proof. Patricia Cornwell with Walter Sickert, Stephen Knight with the Duke of Clarence, and others with Tumblety, Kosminski, William Gull etc. The truth is we'll most likely never know for sure so let's not pretend we know who the Ripper was, but say who he is most likely to have been.
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Also none of the eyewitness descriptions match Tumblety. He was a big man around 5'11" with a huge eccentric moustache, whereas the witnesses said the Ripper was 5'3" to 5'6". He's too circumstantial to accuse with certainty, but nonetheless he was a vile misogynist who certainly had the potential and motive to commit the murders with the expertise and anatomical knowledge for the mutilations.
Gretchluver1 8 months ago
I still have my doubts about Tumblety being JtR. Just because he had two rings like Annie Chapman's when he died doesn't mean they were hers. She was very poor and would have only been able to afford very cheap jewellery, which would have been very common at the time. If Tumblety kept them as some kind of trophy, why didn't he with the rest of the victims as well?
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Aron Kominski had a form of schizophrenia which could certainly make him very dangerous but the crimes don't fit a pattern the killer was a hunter, deliberate cold methodical and not just say frenzied as you might expect from somebody who is suffering schizo disorders would normally lash out when unwell at that moment in time and would most likely stand out,the killer seeming blended with the enviroment well
gentle7ways7 10 months ago
Tumblety is most likely suspect, the fact he was staying in the geographical area that fbi and modern criminologist now use as a patterns for investigations plus his pathological profile lifestyle,but i think the murderer would have to have local knowlegde of his bearings did tumblety have an accomplice was there more than one involved ? and could he keep his sanity after such a act of brutality,the murders followed where he travelled too after too and the killings ceased after his departure.
gentle7ways7 10 months ago
@djteknovibe
Idiot, see the 3 youtube doco's on Francis Tumblety and discover your ignorance
sonnybono1234 10 months ago
@djteknovibe How do you explain the similar murders in New York after the Whitechapel murders?
humdrummer 11 months ago
jack the ripper was definatly JAmes maybriCK
pluggyman 1 year ago
It was Kosminski!
48alfaone 1 year ago
Thank you. I am honored, especially from you!
mklhawley 1 year ago
go hawley
RazorProductions367 1 year ago
It has nothing to do with being cocky. The experts used on these particular shows communicate with each other on a couple of online forums (honestly), and the biggest one is Casebook.org . If you take the time to look, you'll see the show is not entirely correct. I do not have enough space on this to explain. To be convinced of something because of one show (which did not convince the experts) weakens your position. Check it out. I believe you will love it if you liked the show.
mklhawley 1 year ago 3
Oh, you received your info from a TV show. Keep in mind, the agenda of shows like this is not the truth but to convince you of what they believe is the truth. At the time of the murders, he was one of dozens of Jewish suspects. Keep in mind, he was not witnessed murdering anyone. No one saw the murders. Scotland Yard chose to ignore him, but then decided to revisit his suspect status well after the murders. This negates the show's arguments. As I said, check out Casebook.
mklhawley 1 year ago
Good candidate, but some problems. The eyewitness was Lawlande, who admitted he would not be able to ID Kosminski. Kosminski had no record of violence. Kosminski was not on Scotland Yard's radar until July 1889. The top experts reject him being the best candidate. Check out Casebook.
mklhawley 1 year ago
jeremy here ... last name TUMBELTY
daRealJermo2 1 year ago
@daRealJermo2
Hi Jeremy,
Any connections to Rochester, New York?
Mike
mklhawley 1 year ago
ripper
ibrahim94241 1 year ago
he did it. he wasn't homosexual atall though, he was bisexual.
nelmulligan 1 year ago
Very possibly. Incidentally, I recently published an article on Francis Tumblety, which you can find linked to my website listed above.
mklhawley 1 year ago
he did it.
nelmulligan 1 year ago
never trust a man wearing OJ gloves.....
GMSpreez 1 year ago
I can neither confirm nor deny that I own bruno mali's
mklhawley 1 year ago 2
thanks for paraphrasing an hour long video available here on Youtube.
woodbinedrinker 1 year ago
I can see you've never been on Casebook.org
mklhawley 1 year ago
cont; Liz Stride had a violent partner Michael Kidney and it is possible her death was a domestic dispute (nothing unusual in that by EE standards) but I think one aspect that has not been explored enough (or perhaps I have missed studies on this) is to what extended the canonical 5 (or perhaps we should say canonical 6) were known to each other. There were an estimated 80,000 'ladies of the night' in London with 3,000 in Whitechapel alone so if all six women knew each other that would cont;
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
certainly be significant (or even if they were connected through being in the same lodgings, workhouses, pubs etc). I don't entirely understand why Martha Tabram is not accepted as being in the canonical group because her death and circumstances of it seem remarkably similiar to the other victims (except perhaps the possibility she had been raped whilst the others weren't). I also saw a youtube docu on Tumblety (unfortunately I forget the link) which adds the very real possibility of him as JTR
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
Anyway thanks for this video and i'll certainly have a look at your comments on Tumblety in the Casebook site
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
In October, part three of Roger Palmer's Inspector Andrews article comes out that will make it absolutely clear Tumblety was considered by Scotland Yard the prime suspect in the Whitechapel murders at the peak of the investigation.
mklhawley 1 year ago
@mklhawley
Just to clarify, is that a link on the Casebook website?
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
con; that 'Jack' was interupted whilst killing her, hence the level of violence on Catherine Eddowes later is plausible (the concept that an enraged killer was venting his frustration at being interupted on his next victim)- ive actually visited both Berners Street (today Henriques St) in Whitechapel and Mitre Square within the City of London and even 122 years on they have an atmosphere- there are modern apartment blocks and high rise buildings but some of the Victorian buildings still remain;
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
Martha Tabram) The problem was 'Fairy Fay' probably never existed- the supposed pub she was supposed to have left before her death did not exist and the only records of deaths in London at the time with names similiar to Fairy Fay were women who died of routine health health problems prevelant in the slums. It is likely that journalists confused (or possibly deliberately misreported) two other victims and created this 'victim' Thats why I think there remains such an interest in the continued..
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
cont... Whitechapel Murders; so many aspects of it are a mystery wrapped inside a puzzle inside an enigma. With 11 victims in total (and only 5 directly attributed to Jack the Ripper) there are many other cases more prolific in numerical terms (even within London, Dennis Nilsen killed 15 young men and the 'Finchley Baby Farmers' killed at least 20 infants) but the difference in other cases seems to be that there was a crime and a perpetrator; with the Whitechapel Murders every aspect of the con;
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
case provokes numerous questions. I think the nature of the East End at the time also plays a role- dark, dirty, overcrowded, a melting pot of various immigrant groups and whilst there was an organised police force (the Metropolitan Police formed in 1829) efficiency was based on raw senses only (ie catching a felon in the act). Its interesting that even in the tough slums of the East End, where violence was common, the murders provoked an atmosphere of vigilantism and hysteria. Your work cont;
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
certainly sounds original so I wish you luck with that.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
It sucks only getting 500 characters, eh! If you check out Casebook again, you'll see many of my comments on Tumblety. One point about JTR witnesses is that no one saw the murders, so the descriptions are not true murder witnesses; just potentials. Most of the experts on Casebook accept Tabram plus the C5 (canonical five - Nichols, Chapman, Stride, Eddowes, and Kelly) as JTR victims. The Casebook Examiner has an article from Roger Palmer, who makes it clear Dr. T was a serious suspect.
mklhawley 1 year ago
@mklhawley
Yes, I know- the 500 characters constantly leads me to press the word verification! Thats a good point that the witnesses are not true witnesses in that sense. Its useful to hear from someone who has actually contributed to the site because its the most comprehensive ive seen. I find it in teresting that Liz Stride is always included- whilst she did die violently in Whitechapel, the wound was apparently struck from a different direction as the other victims; however the concept con;
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
I have to admit Tumblety is one of the strongest suspects in my book but his homosexuality (homosexual killers tend to only target men) and age (53 at the time of the Whitechapel Murders- most witnesses place the man they saw at 35) weigh against him. Nevertheless, he remains a strong suspect so this is intriguing.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
Age has not been an issue for me since I am around 50 and I still feel quite healthy (at least I think!). The homosexual issue focuses upon a sado-sexual motive (ex. Dahmer with his boys). If the motive was hatred of prostitutes, attacking their livelihood would make sense. I have a paper coming out in "Ripperologist", which brings up an entirely different motive based upon the available evidence. Once it comes out, I'll talk about it.
mklhawley 1 year ago
@mklhawley
I take your point about age; indeed the witness statements of the time varied and often contradicted one another. In the charged atmosphere of the East End at the time gossip was also rife and so rumours could well have been muddled with facts. Actually im not sure if you are familiar with the comprehensive 'Casebook' website but in that there is an alalysis of a very early alleged victim named 'Fairy Fay' who was killed in Whitechapel in Christmas 1887 (allmost a year before cont
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
Scotland Yard Considered Tumblety the prime suspect at the peak of the investigation (Nov 14). He was arrested, and he then jumped bail to the US. The murders stopped. They could not extradict him back to London, because NO ONE saw the murders. This was before blood-typing, fingerprinting, ect., so not enough evidence. This is not conjecture; these are the facts.
mklhawley 1 year ago
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Gretchluver1 8 months ago
@SauceOnDough No you don't.. It's not a matter of what you think my friend.. It's a matter of what you can prove.. Can you prove that he did it?
crammiddleschool 1 year ago
I think James Maybrick is the ripper.
HisXmasCarol 1 year ago
Very interesting Mike! Thanks.
williamkanegateshead 1 year ago
and when he died the doctors took two rings off his fingers just like the ones off one of the victims fingers
ShaunPalmerr 1 year ago
im sure he was the ripper. hated women,kept vaginas in jars. was a doctor.he knew london well, was living on batty street which near the middle of all the spots where the murder took place. in fact the third murder took place on the same street. his writing is very similar to that of the letter from the letter from hell with the human kidney. his landlord so him come back on the night of the double murder had blood on him. fled to america leaving a blood starined garmen.
ShaunPalmerr 1 year ago
everything pretty much points to FT..
reefergladness 1 year ago
what i dont understand is, why was mary kellys door locked by key after her murder? does that prove that she new the killer?
nosebuzz 1 year ago
@nosebuzz I like your thinking. I believe the door had a spring-loaded lock (and the key was lost) and locked when it was closed. Kelly, her friend prostitutes, and participating Johns, opened the door through the broken glass window. It certainly does seem JTR knew to open the door this way. JTR could have followed Kelly with a John, watch her open the door this way, and after the John left, he sneeked in while she was sleeping. Mike
mklhawley 1 year ago
@nosebuzz they were ritual Freemasonic killings, done by high-level masons and royals including Winston Churchill's father
The Ripper and the Royals is a great book on this.
odin422 1 year ago
@odin422 there is no way the killings were done by the freemasons or royal family,, ive looked into everything and it wouldnt be possible, it was the work of a local madman or men,, it would have came out by now other wise.
nosebuzz 1 year ago
@nosebuzz Well maybe jack took the key as he left, and locked the door, so no one would go in too early..
EnergyDog23 1 year ago
I love this video Mike. :) It's just so informative and well done!
SauceOnDough 1 year ago
@SauceOnDough Thanks!
mklhawley 1 year ago
@SauceOnDough WRONG! they were ritual Freemasonic killings, done by high-level masons and royals including Winston Churchill's father
The Ripper and the Royals is a great book on this. Or Murder by Degree.
odin422 1 year ago
Tumblety seems to be the most likely suspect. There is a lot evidence against him.
zdheat 2 years ago
I know for a fact that Francis Tumblety was Jack The Ripper.
SauceOnDough 2 years ago
I love your confidence!
Mike
mklhawley 2 years ago
Thank you. :D
SauceOnDough 2 years ago
tumblety could have and is capable of killing the first 4 canonial victims, but it took a specail person to kill the fith victim. tumblety could have stabed, sliced, and cut away the fist four victims. marry kellys case was different. the killer went out of his way to dehumanize her after she was dead. i dont think a character like tumblety could do it. i think some guy that was eating food from the gutter because voices in his head told him to could do it. my suspect is kosminsky
harmonyliberty 2 years ago
You may be right, but... Notice the Hare Psychopathy checklist for an aggressive narcissist: Glibness/superficial charm, Grandiose sense of self-worth, Pathological lying, Cunning/manipulative, Lack of remorse or guilt, Shallow affect (expressing emotions deceptively), Callous/lack of empathy, Failure to accept responsibility for own actions. Each one is classic Tumblety, and also serial killers. The JTR pattern is more than a series of insane impulses but of methological deliberateness.
mklhawley 2 years ago
i dont think marry kelly's killer was into money, materials, or fame that most violent criminals are into. so i would not expect jack the ripper to have a violent past. i think jack the ripper acted on his insane impulse. but there are alot of other insane suspect. why kosminsky? he was the only one identified by a witness. this is what i think.
harmonyliberty 2 years ago
i like kosminsky as a suspect. that dude was insane. someone who can mutilate marry kelly like that must be insane. mean, cold hearted, selfish, jealousy people dont mutilate other people. sadist can mutilate, but jack the ripper was not a sadist. jack the ripper must have been an o.k. guy in public. his victims felt comfortable with him even when news came out about about a crazy killer. what do u guys think
harmonyliberty 2 years ago
Hi
Do you happen to have any other footage on Tumblety?
I've been searching a long time now for something I saw on tv with my father.. it convinced us this could be the man!!
We have looked everywhere for it.. the 'Littlechild' letter was a main point and the show we saw also had re-enactments and an interview with a collector and investigator.
If you could help us out in anyway.. even if you know what show I might have seen, that would be absolutely great!!
Thank you!
C
misscarolinec 2 years ago
My guess is a MysteryQuest episode in November 1999. Check on its website for previous episodes. The author is Stewart Evans (Jack the Ripper: The First American Serial Killer).
Sincerely,
Mike
mklhawley 2 years ago
sounds right about the year!! Can't wait to start my new search, thank you very much Sir :)
Caroline
misscarolinec 2 years ago
I'm sorry, this was in November 2009.
mklhawley 2 years ago
@mklhawley The MysteryQuest episode looks good. They seem to go with the man I suspect: Jacob Levy.
Gretchluver1 8 months ago
thank you so much for posting!!!
misscarolinec 2 years ago
i lie from hell, it was spooky, everything is like London, especially in 1888, they did a good job, on the movie, but it was just what people thought happened,whoever the ripper was, he was crazy...
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
Mary kelly was also pregeant, when she was murdered, i saw the autopsy reports...
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
Hi abductedbyaliens8892,
I've attempted to reply a message to you four times, and each one has been unsuccessful. There is a website forum where all of the JTR experts/authors discuss issues. You are welcome to join and talk with them. I will send it in the next post.
Sincerely,
Mike
mklhawley 2 years ago
Thank you for your help, I found and watched the episode! The one I saw years ago was actually a different show, but I was very happy to see something new!!
Stewart Evans is the man who I was referring too!
I guess I have a new book to read and still more hunting for the original old tv show with Mr.Evans!
Thankx again for your help!
C
misscarolinec 2 years ago
more real proof of the ripper, just on walter sickert. pictures of the murder scenes, he did a painting that nobody saw, except patricia cornwall, was called jack the rippers bedroom, signatures matched, on one of the ripper letters he wrote Mr Nobody, that was walter sickerts stage name.... he knew too much details...
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
sounds good, alot of suspects have stuff on them, and i wish i could find who this ripper is, does this doctor have any excisting family, that police can get DNA...
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
watch Patrica cornwalls ripper case about Walter sickert, but alot of suspects have clues, etc, we dont have DNA now, but ive been to whitechapel, i know everything about the case, want info on the ripper, send me a message...
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
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Gretchluver1 8 months ago
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Gretchluver1 8 months ago
what do u think of arron kosminsky as a suspect
harmonyliberty 2 years ago
Hi harmonyliberty,
I replied to this, but I don't see it. Oh well, I'll try again. I like Aaron Kosminski, especially b/c Scotland Yard considered him a serious suspect. Two issues I have, though. First, he was not considered a suspect until 2 years later, and second, he had no viiolent history.
Mike
mklhawley 2 years ago
this is what i wonder. i hope u can clearify. if scotland yard released tumblety on 16th of november who killed marry kelly. ms. kelly was killed in the 9th of november. why would scotland yard follow him to america if ms. kelly was killed when tumblety was in jail. just wondering
harmonyliberty 2 years ago
Hi harmonyliberty,
Tumblety was not released on the 16th of November. All JTR experts, even those that do not support Tumblety, agree that Tumblety was freed before Mary Kelly was murdered on November 9th. The Littlechild letter explains that Tumblety certainly was a suspect, and in Tumblety's interview he admits being arrested for the Whitechapel killings.
Mike
mklhawley 2 years ago
one of the ladys that rented him the place on batty street saw him come in the house with blood all over him, but no one checked...
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
police were even watching him, when he lived on batty street in whitechapel, one of the ripper letters had a kidney that belonged to someone from a morgue too, and not the victims.
abductedbyaliens8892 2 years ago
Hi,
There definately is controversy with the partial kidney that came with the From Hell letter.
mklhawley 2 years ago