BBC's Horizon Is alcohol worse than ecstasy? - Amphetamine

[yTubeBlowsBigBalls]

How many beef eaters are out there? How many people have died of tainted beef?

[3521soda]

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[MsiJoe2]

Did some speed yesterday, it was fucking amazing! The comedown made me really gloomy and depressed and a little emotional. I had an hour long conversation on the comedown about shit I wouldn't usually feel okay to talk about, girls, sex, family, health all that. But I couldn't sleep for shit which frustrated me, ended up drifting off about 6 after being in bed since 1! Woke up at 8 -_-

[MasivB]

what bbc episode is this?

[TheFirelady78]

nice but a short one. You can see some more useful movies about the problem in my favourites.

[kostolomac222]

I like speed effects but i hate the day after

[robot875]

Speed is not to bad , just dont use more than 2 gram in a weekend , and take extra calsium tablets and vitamins . aspecially dont forgett the calsium tablets because speed will eat your beautifull teaths and the rest . Take the calsium tablet (1200 mg)after some food and then start to party .

[warp455]

@robot875 NO!!! Not calcium! Are you dumb? Calcium will increase neurotoxicity. What speed users want are magnesium, zinc, vitamin E, and a B-multivitamin. C vitamin too, but only if it is not ascorbic ACID (acidics [beer, soda, common vitamin C] speed up removal of amp) so ascorbic ester is best. Also, acetyl-l-cartinine and r-ala for antioxidants. And l-tyrosine on the days you aren't on speed to replenish neurotransmitters that are depleted. A 5-htp once a month helps too.

[akjd90]

In 8th place:

Amphetamine

......

A lovely drug.

[FieryChill]

If they just inform ppl CORRECT about speed even less ppl would die and the number would be even smaller..

[pwg1126]

Thanks for the good information. My 22 yr old son died from his addiction to a legal amphetamine he had been precribed from age 12. He could take as many as 32 in one day before I caught him. I later learned that this is a brain disease not a moral decision. They need help from a rehab for over 90 days. I do not recommend the 12 step program. I recommend weaning them off the dosage and the govt. regulating the ease to doctor shop and getting multiple prescriptions. God bless us.

[combino79]

"on the street"? speed on the street? bullshit. the wind would blow it away before you got your line ready.

[DAVIDVINCENTDURING]

I take been taking dextroamphetamine since 2008 and since then have reunited with distant family, applied to college, recognizd the psychological obstacles that have plagued me since my childhood. i take a daily dose that compensates for neurological chemicals in my brain that had been suppressed since my childhood. so as long as you don't crush it up and blast off on snorting it, you can find yourself someone going day by day into a positively neuroconnected state of mind. and my penis is huge.

[dhfdfhdfh]

@DAVIDVINCENTDURING

I've been taking Desoxyn (Methamphetamine HCL) for about 4 months now, way better then DextroAmphetamine... The only problem is that Desoxyn is expensive as hell!

[CaBaLlErO211]

ihr schreibt alle sone scheisse haha steroide machen den penis kleiner und schnelles auch haha was raucht ihr alle fürn shit ,ich brauche geld für crack XD

[pwg1126]

My 22 yr old son died from his addiction to Ritalin. Not once in the last 10 years did one doctor warn us of how addictive this drug is. Sean had gone thru 24 days of treatment in Hou. Tx before being kicked him out for not buying in. Most addicts have a 5 to 20% chance of recovery. Relapses are common with this disease. Sean voluntarily went to treatment to try beat this curse as he called it. My sweet Sean died the back of his car after lot after taking 30 (20mg) Ritalin pills.God help you.

[LittleTerror848]

Any mind altering drug will eventually alter the way you think permanently, think of it as deprogramming then reprogramming the mind and that's bad for people that want you to think in a certain way.

People use drugs like MDMA to temporally escape from a boring world of work, war, stress etc. Problem is I find after experimenting with it myself  is that when you come back down you will feel even more pissed off so I don't recommend people use it.

[DAVIDVINCENTDURING]

@LittleTerror848 I remember before I ever got introduced to Ritalin and Dexedrine for the treatment of my ADHD, I self-medicated with MDMA in high school. Lots of people have the terrible crash from it, but I found that it was just what I needed to get myself down to a concentrated mental level to focus on one task at a time. It was kinda odd like that. I never enjoyed reading until I started taking MDMA. I'd wake up on a Saturday morning and read a novel cover to cover.

[Etrius6969]

I heard that one of the side-effects of "speed" shrinks your penis. now is this true?

[TeddieFish]

Yep.

Its fucking almost inpossible to get an erection on speed.

[velvetizerrr]

@TeddieFish

never had a problem with that...

[TeddieFish]

@velvetizerrr

Do you have an penis?

[velvetizerrr]

@TeddieFish

I do

[TeddieFish]

maybe mine is bigger?

Its really rare, for a man to hawe an erection on speed.

:D I remeber a fag who wanted to se my dick on speed. I told him thats is was really small, like when you put ice on it.

When he seen it. he whas like "Oh my, it´s really tiny"

My dick is really big when not using speed, or some other Chemical drug, like E.

[velvetizerrr]

@TeddieFish

Yeah it is much smaller but if you....well...activate it^^ it becomes its normal size and feel.

But in my case masturbation takes a lot of time (last weekend nearly 1h^^)

I had to take breaks for not to hurt myself...But the result was worth it :D

[TeddieFish]

@velvetizerrr

Take it very slow when you jack off.

Youre heart pumps very hard, and fast. Dont wanna rush it more.

[velvetizerrr]

@TeddieFish

oh thanks a lot. i gotta very good breath-technique ;-)

but i don't do it under the shower when i'm high or stoned.

that can fuck your system^^

[Taydrum]

Believe everything you hear on the internet eh?

[DendrilopisXaggro]

NOT. Abuse can cause Impotence but doesnt shrinking penises

[DendrilopisXaggro]

Steroids are the only illicits drugs that can shrinks your penis, scientifically proved.

[tutorialsandstuff]

Bro, Its definalty true. I tried fucking on 30mg of amphetamine and it was embarassing!! I couldnt get hard lol

[ExcuSexy]

i did that shit last week for 1st time 1st drug i ever tryed,1 gram with a friends of mine for the whole night,was EPIC WIN !

[VeritasTruthEmet]

um, im prescribed 45mg daily and it aint abuse that will fuck u up; any use at all!

[Convergingspirals]

What a load of misinformation....17 years and non of that was true for me ... scare-mongering lies can be more dangerous than the truth... when educating the younger generation about drugs. Alcohol is the real problem.

[treeform12]

Anyone who's done a little light reading on the subject knows that alcohol and tobacco cause more deaths than most drugs. Whenever I smoke with my buddy, he always asks me "Dude, why is weed illegal?". The answer is simple.

Money.

[samouil95]

u don't get it do ya

[thestash16]

dont get that your a bitch yea.

[invertedchords]

weed is bad for mental health. some weeds have been so strong that ive had three tokes on a spliff and felt like i was in another dimension, where all reality becomes so different.

im glad ive stopped, ive become a much better guitar player, more confident, less retarded when socialising {still a bit socially retarded from it thought}

i don't really know uch about alchohol though. i don't think it cause me to ever be like what i was when i was a ''stoner''

[thestash16]

yea no shit, dont abuse "drugs" use em in moderation like you would alcohol k home boi.

[twmmay]

thats called getting high, thats what being high is

[invertedchords]

Well then if my description which i thought was a list of bad ailments due to effects of weed is what you would call been high then people be smacked right in their fucking faces coz they aint gonna get to grips with reality been stupid fucking ignoraniuses like you so just fuck off you spastic pot head.

[invertedchords]

I hope you get schitzophrenia

twmmay because you don't deserve a full working brain when you know what damage you cause to it, either that or you ignore the damages because well, maybe... YOUR AN INGORANT FUCK.

[twmmay]

me ignorant? cannabis does not damage brain cells, in some cases it actually stimulates them. I'm not stupid either, my 3 A*s, 4 As and 3Bs disagree with you there, i got those grades from 2 years of constant smoking. grow up and actually learn something about the thing you are so against

[invertedchords]

Not only are you ignorant but you can't debate with real facts which would make you a politician which is worse than been ignorants, its a different name for what i call a LIAR

Weed damages the tissue of the brain, do some research, now type in ''the affects of marajuana on brain tissue''

Since all living tissues are made of CELLS then CELLS are damaged. i dont hope you get schitz but i get so annoyed at ignorance to the inequalities of mrajuana and then make such Bullshit phrases which praise

[twmmay]

urgh, theres a documentary on youtube somewhere which would explain all this to you, it interviews professors at harvard and they even say themselves it DOES NOT harm your brain cells, the reason people think that is cos the experiment they used was pump smoke through masks into monkeys for like 30 min sessions, they died/lost brain cells from not having oxygen, not from cannabis smoke. I have spent the last 2 years researching the affects of cannabis on the mind.

[invertedchords]

lol iNgorant :P

[Somerandomguy128]

Alcohol & Nicotine = drugs

Otherwise, I agree with your statement.

Legalize cannabis!

[pwg1126]

@treeform12 How about because it makes you stupid. Have you ever got stoned and tried to read a book, or listen to a lecture. Pot is somewhat harmless but it does affect your short term memorm. You better hope you don't misplace your keys when your high.

[BeechwoodSilasLang]

So if Tobacco kills 140,000 people a year in the Uk, and Amphetamines kill only 35.. how are Amphetamines worse?.. Tobacco is even more addictive then Tobacco..

[BeechwoodSilasLang]

*than amphetamines ,sorry!

[sirstriker886]

Ya, but much more people smoke compared to people who use amphetamine?? and its not the tobacco, its the breathing in of smoke that kills you.

[soylentgreenb]

Nicotine is not entirely harmless absent smoke.

It is known to speed cancer growth and turn some pre-cancerous cells cancerous but is not known to be a carcinogen to healthy tissue.

It is quite easy to overdose on nicotine when used in concentrated form( LD50 = 40-60 mg/kg) or if spilt on skin by accident.

It is a powerful vasoconstrictor and thought to have a deliterious impact on circulatory disease.

It is thought to double rates of parkinson's and alzheimers. Not definitive.

[sabaths1fan]

It's not how many people die,

It's the ratio of people that use to people that die.

[soylentgreenb]

"It's not how many people die,

It's the ratio of people that use to people that die. "

That's a poor measure. Brain damage and other non-lethal damage also clearly matter as does reductions in percieved quality of life.

[sabaths1fan]

Well thats the same concept.

I'm just saying that it isn't the sheer number of deaths that matter.

If nobody cut someones head off their would be zero deaths from decapitation.

Does that mean decapitation is not lethal?

^ that's my point.

[invertedchords]

This is something called creatively desceptive debate(i invented the term, just need to put a name to the subject), it fools the fools but an ounce of brain in a person can see this documentary isn't weighing the dangers logically.

Good point my friend, good analogy, good enough for the blind to see the intelligent mans point.

[twmmay]

1) click reply when talking to me so i know you've replied and I can reply back. 2) that documentary interviews the head of the medical institute bit of harvard, dont even try and convince me that you know more about the subject than they do, the fact is apart from the actual smoke cannabis is relatively harmless 3) just cos you freaked out cos you actaully got high doesn't mean its some insane drug, its the desired effect, if you cant handle it dont do it 4) dont blame ur social problems on it

[invertedchords]

well its simple maths really normal bright 14 year old + marajuana = retard.

Now tell me you can argue with that, i dont even want to see a reply to it because it will piss me off so much to see you tell me that the equation doesn't balance.

[twmmay]

mathematically speaking if that equation was balanced, then according to you:

14 year old - retard = weed

so when the retardedness is taken out, only weed is left, so weed is good?

lrn2re-arrangeequations stupid

[invertedchords]

14 - brain = retard

you minus the brain because marajuana has taken away most of its abilities.

rearrange the equation though, it should balance nicely for you, you picky bastard.

[twmmay]

you realise i showed you a documentary that interviews heads of the medical institute of harvard saying cannabis doesnt damage your brains, saying why the studies were false etc and that your argument consists of you making up equations of the correlation between the use of cannabis and intelligence, therefore making it true because you said it. i thought you'd be more mature for a 20 year old

[invertedchords]

cannibis does lower intellegence. I don't need to do studies to know that you retard, i happen to know people other than your harvard profs that smoke marajuana they excell in nothing and fail in almost everything.

[twmmay]

its all to do with personality, it doesnt do it to everyone, me for example. Those people were gonna fail at life, it's cos of their personality and dont even try and say you know more about a PROFESSOR of the MEDICAL school of HARVARD about how a substance effects the body, do you realise how fucking retarded that makes you look? you base your argument on made up equations and things like "oh well my friend smokes weed BLAH BLAH BLAH" its only a few people.

[invertedchords]

no im saying that your a pussy and i will fight you. your nothing, your shit, your piss in a cup of flem spit, hang yourself pervert of the night waiting in the dark alley and stalking young women (jail bait) as they pass under the lowered street light, but you no where in sight. he smokes a J then he's on his way to bum the girls untight. LOL ROFL OMG I WIN YOU LOSE

[twmmay]

wtf is wrong with you, you sound like an absolute dickman, atleast act a little more mature for someone who is supposedly 20, cos saying LOL ROFL OMG makes you sound like a 13 year old emo kid

[twmmay]

you say that, whereas my experience of weed is, me smoking it for 2 years, exceeding my expectations in my tests and becoming a better person and my brother who smokes 8 times daily, running his own business at 21 and on the odd occasion makes 400 pounds in a day. So don't even try talk anymore of your bullshit without showing me some evidence, you ignorant waste of food

[invertedchords]

Showing evidence is something you need to take on board asshole, at least my proposals of my experiences are far more fucking believeable than yours i think your definately the one to show evidence for such claims then you call me a bullshitter which can be easylier said for you again, with such claims.

[twmmay]

i know what ive said is true, if you want ill take a picture of my exam results and send them to you? and ill give you my brother facebook so you can ask him yourself... i have no problem backing up my claims, so far nothing you've said has been backed up by evidence

[jussist]

According to that video:

430.000 users, 35 deaths = 0,0081%

Tobacco in UK:

10.000.000 users, 140.000 deaths = 1,4%

So ciggies are 172 times more deadly than speed.

[SidneyTurner]

@jussist  Just because its not deadly dosnt make it safe.Ciggies dont fuck up your brain for years! im clean as a whistle.......I just get really drunk everyday and take shit loads of sleeping tablets every night. ;)

[gremlinextreme101]

@jussist Depends how you define deadly; more people die by being kicked by a camel than shark attack though more people live near camels, so is a camel more deadly than a shark?

[BROWNVBOARD]

@jussist Lol, that's because more people use tobacco.

[jussist]

@BROWNVBOARD Statistics surely is a bit difficult to some people...

[dedbult]

@jussist he calculated it statistically, its proportional. Number of users is irrelevant.

[mordohhhh]

@jussist

ciggies are more deadly,but at least it wont broke your fucking head after regular using.amphetamine changes people.

[JenkemBOMBS]

@jussist

I think your forgetting a HUGE variable.

Tobacco is MUCH more popular then amphetamines, so you cant calculate how much deadlier it is then amphetamines strictly from death statistics.

Amphetamines can stop a heart, and cause fatal strokes, and if you have a anuerysm and to do a bit to much, that shit is going to blow.

And the addiction is WAY worse on the brain and personality.

[sander395]

@JenkemBOMBS uhm you do know what a precentage is right? youre right about the addiction thing.

[invertedchords]

there are more people who smoke than the amount of peple who take amphetamines. if there as many phet heads as there are smokers ... thedeaths of people on phet would be different

anyways fuck your internal organs... the mind is the most important... if ur gonna abuse yourself and have fun make sure it aint gonna leave your brain in a mess as your brain determines what reality is to you and how you success

[trisky1234]

dont forget there's no well functioning mind without well functioning organs..

[NeilJMacdonald1989]

speed is the shittest drug ever makes u feel filthy and rotten, dirt shit fries ur brain aswell

[augustina91]

I agree on that,how are you doing?

[NeilJMacdonald1989]

no bad urself

[Somerandomguy128]

If it fries your brain, then why exactly do doctors prescribe it to 9 year olds for their ADHD?

Please come up with a valid response. Until then, reverse logic states that amphetamine, in fact, does not damage the brain.

[Somerandomguy128]

You obviously don't understand the definition of amphetamine. What you mean is a stimulant. Caffeine is not amphetamine, it is caffeine (obviously). Caffeine happens to belong to the drug class of xanthine alkaloids. MDMA, however, is an amphetamine. There is a type of amphetamine called just "amphetamine". This is commonly known as "speed". This drug is what is prescribed for ADHD (brand name is Adderal).

[TTOIA]

They should've interviewed Lemmy

[purometalyrap]

lol... alcohol kills more ppl than all drugs in the world.

[Cathain78]

Yeah, but then more people consume alcohol anyway soyou would expect more casulties. It's not really a fair comparison on relative danger.

[llMillll]

agree with monkey, but I say do drugs, stop drinking!