hi, does anybody know how much pilots made pre 9/11? I know right now they make shit money nothing special, at least in the US. At least in Europe the major carriers still pay decent money.
@RyanKnowsTech At one point the speed and altitude were visible- .84 mach and 31,000 feet. The speed of sound (mach 1) at 31,000 ft is 675 mph, so 84% of that is 569 mph. Google nasa mach number calculator and it'll let you calculate speeds at given altitudes. But yeah, as big as this bird is, it's not slow!
@TheWarPlanet Yeah, slow compared to the Concorde, but 569 mph is not "slow" by ANY means. That's over 800 ft/sec. Pretty awesome for something so large. Helps to keep things in perspective.
Commercial jets are really amazing pieces of machinery. What's really surprising though, is the sheer number of buttons, displays, and other controls found on the plane, especially when you consider the fact that it flies using the same physics principles as the Wright Flyer did. I'd really like to know what the heck all of that stuff is for!
I can only imagine how awesome it would be to be a 747 pilot. I hope someday I can ride jumpseat on a flight or at the very least, sit in the left seat on the ground and dream of what it would be like to fly such a plane.
That is fascinating. I rather wonder if in-flight videotaping like this would still be allowed in the post-9/11 world. There doesn't seem to be any reason why it shouldn't be, other than that we have grown uncomfortable with the idea of cockpits being in any way visible or accessible public.
there 4 pilots but if you see the right door in 3:22 there are beds there and the other two pilots are in there sleeping. I know this because my dad is a pilot with united and flies the 747.
pilots do get "down time" if it's a long haul flight like this one, they would tend to have 4 pilots. 2 of the pilots are the primary, and the other 2 are the relief. The primary would take the plane off and land it.. while the relief would fly it when it is in the air. They switch between primary to relief then back every 3- 4 hours depending on the company. So they can relax and have a break :P
In long hauls like the one shown here, they have 2 sets of pilots. Because you can't expect someone to sit for 10 hrs. Usually the same piots will do the t/o and lading while the other will fly mid-flight
I would love if I could enter a cockpit during the flight, but I still think they're right not allowing us. I really would feel very unconfortable and unsafe if I had to watch lots of passengers going to the cabin during the flight...
It's a ACARS message off the message printer Lower RIGHT hand side of the pedestal.. Company dispatchers can send routing updates, EnRoute WX updates, and arrival information such as gate changes etc...
One of the most interesting aviation videos I've ever seen here on youtube. And note at 1:30, the Captain has that thing on his ears to protect them from the intense sound. Excelent close-ups from the panel and MCP, very very interesting.
Probably had to climb or descend per ATC instruction... Or wanted to control the rate of climb/descnet with the V/S mode, and just hasn't re-engaged VNAV
You can climb, it only depends about the weight of the plane. You also need to take into consideration a company cost effective flight, which means the company wants you to burn less fuel. So the optimum altitude for this phase of the flight is FL310. Later in the flight I am sure they climbed higher to fly faster and burn even less fuel.
The plane is heavy at takeoff, much of the weight is fuel. At any given weight, there is a maximum altitude the plane can cruise. After the plane burns off fuel and becomes lighter, they'll climb higher..
The 2 bunks were the pilots take their brake during the long flight. Over 12 hours flight you have dual crew, which means of the 4 pilots, 2 are at rest for half of the flight.
do pilots get to choose which aircraft they want to fly in life, because they could train for a boeing 747 and they join an airline which only have airbuses?
the airline will train pilots for the specific type of aircraft they fly. Airlines with more than one type of plane have the pilots bid for type and is awarded by company seniority. To fly something like this 747 a pilot would have to have a lot of company seniority. Some smaller airlines with only one type of aircraft may require the applicant to already be "type certified" for the aircraft.
in the -400 theres bunks in behind a small door right of where the guy filming is standing. usually u got a relief crew of either a senior f/0 and a second officer who take over during cruise above 20000 or if its not that long just carry a s/o. some cowboys even now read magazines, it gets boring as fuck.
Amazing, it is one of my dreams to be a pilot, but the airlines are going out of business because of the Homeland Security Department and fuel prices.
Yes they fly back, there not gonna live in Hong Kong. You see that is a 14 hour flight, if they were to fly there and back they would be up for 28 hours straight which is not very possible. They would be expeiriencing severe fatigue which is not good for pilots. So no they would not fly back in the same day but they would fly back on a different day after they had time to rest. Hope I helped.
It helps to be good at it - a lot of angular and physical calculations related to flying are math-based so you definitely need some Math skills - calculus and trigonometry helps too. But the mos difficult part in becoming a pilot is money - it also takes a LOT of money and sacrifice to become a commercial pilot.
Most important, you gotta be able to deal with paying alimony to three ex-wives. And deal with some boring cockpit conversation with ex-military super conservative types. *yawn*
i hate flying with the Ex-airforce goons. with there "back when i was flying C-17's or A-10s seein some real action etc." your like well whyd you leave then
Well, It does help, but it's not like you have to go through serious calculus classes or anything but you have to be able to predict fuel quantities and things like that.
wow! I've been flying using x plane and I hope I understand most of those buttons. The Centre panel is where all the computer screen navigation stuff is and all the auto pilot ect. And above the wind screen is the fuel pumps battery avionics and the ignition for the engines and APU. And below the throttle I think is all the radio equipment, for ATC ect.
im not sure about this but the left colum is for the waypoints, the center left colum is for the time they should arrive at that waypoint, now the center right colum in not sure about but I think it is the FL, like FL350, etc.. and the far right colum is maybe for the fuel remaining. I am posive about the first 3 colums, but the far right one I just took a guess.
That would be the flight Plan... a resumed one. This is sent by the operations dept in the airport to the aircraft, the captain or FO prints it and thats it. The Flight Plan contain the different waypoints, FL, and speeds, which the aircraft has to follow, in order to reach the destination safely.
its sad how after 911 airlines have mad it really hard to get a jumpseat ride, we was flying a 767 from IAD to SFO and some guy paid 2,000 for a jumpseat ride
hi, does anybody know how much pilots made pre 9/11? I know right now they make shit money nothing special, at least in the US. At least in Europe the major carriers still pay decent money.
KingD2D 7 months ago
QUALITY ! THANKYOU :) and thanks for not putting some stupid music on that takes away the reality of the whole experience. top job.
bontromium 10 months ago
before 9/11 i am guessing
danieldunican 1 year ago
@danieldunican It says "early 2001"
you're correct
MrEthan0329 1 year ago
@danieldunican "BEFORE 9/11" WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? BEFORE OR AFTER - VIDEOTAPING IS 'NOT' HIJACKING
italioguy 1 year ago
@italioguy Passengers aren't allowed on the flight deck since 9/11, the cockpit door is locked.
TheTenderhooligan 3 months ago
these guys are so relaxed....no doubt they hve to face the consequence if anythg happens...but they are so cool and calm
vijmish 1 year ago
TTHOSE PILOTS LOOK PRETTY BORED
hearts76100 1 year ago
Did you notice that both of those guys driving are 3-stripers?? I guess the captain had already hit the bunk.
SteveD328 1 year ago
Does anyone have clear pictures/videos of the "pilot rest area" just behind the cockpit of a 747-400? If you do, can you pleas, please post a link.
At 3:20, one poster said the door on the right is the pilot rest area, while another poster said it's the cabin door. Which is it really?
Oh and thanks for the awesome video!
Rachels40 1 year ago
nice video from the very first class :D
tasspus 1 year ago
A moment i thought that the first officer and captain was dead! :p
elyasf 1 year ago
Welcome to the wonderful BORING Life of a Scheduled Airline Crew.
ancientastronomer 1 year ago
to the toilet.
Stheam123 1 year ago
Where does the door, next to the cockpit door,lead to?
Brendinothelatino 1 year ago
@Brendinothelatino crew bunks x 2 very small room top bunk folds away
airvice8 1 year ago
What was the speed of this aircraft?
RyanKnowsTech 1 year ago
@RyanKnowsTech At one point the speed and altitude were visible- .84 mach and 31,000 feet. The speed of sound (mach 1) at 31,000 ft is 675 mph, so 84% of that is 569 mph. Google nasa mach number calculator and it'll let you calculate speeds at given altitudes. But yeah, as big as this bird is, it's not slow!
Thepylot78 1 year ago
@Thepylot78 It is slow, the concorde is the way to go.
TheWarPlanet 7 months ago
@TheWarPlanet Yeah, slow compared to the Concorde, but 569 mph is not "slow" by ANY means. That's over 800 ft/sec. Pretty awesome for something so large. Helps to keep things in perspective.
Thepylot78 7 months ago
I got to sit in the jumpseat from Bangor to Savannah, GA coming back from the gulf.
ExtremeRecluse 1 year ago
did you ask the flight attendants to get in?
efast00 1 year ago
cool
birddog016 1 year ago
cool vid !
macieyek1 1 year ago
Commercial jets are really amazing pieces of machinery. What's really surprising though, is the sheer number of buttons, displays, and other controls found on the plane, especially when you consider the fact that it flies using the same physics principles as the Wright Flyer did. I'd really like to know what the heck all of that stuff is for!
masmddds 2 years ago
I can only imagine how awesome it would be to be a 747 pilot. I hope someday I can ride jumpseat on a flight or at the very least, sit in the left seat on the ground and dream of what it would be like to fly such a plane.
sphmusak 2 years ago
That is fascinating. I rather wonder if in-flight videotaping like this would still be allowed in the post-9/11 world. There doesn't seem to be any reason why it shouldn't be, other than that we have grown uncomfortable with the idea of cockpits being in any way visible or accessible public.
JoshuaH688 2 years ago
You'd see some amazing views up there.
alwalk21 2 years ago
That must very boring looking at gauges and listening to the radio for 14 hours.
jamesdcrooks 2 years ago 2
No more boring than sitting in an office all day staring at a computer
PALLEN8112 2 years ago 3
I would prefer siiting in a cockpit !
KPNLFC 2 years ago 16
great video!! i wish that air travel was still like this
airplaneguy17 2 years ago
really nice video thanks a lot
elcora18 2 years ago
there 4 pilots but if you see the right door in 3:22 there are beds there and the other two pilots are in there sleeping. I know this because my dad is a pilot with united and flies the 747.
sugafries 2 years ago
they can sleep and listining music but they had to stay focusd
KLMMD11B747 2 years ago
yea but not all, 1 or 2 have to be focused while the others are slepping or doing something else.
747forever 2 years ago
Can pilots listen to music while doing a flight or just focused on flying , sitting there for hours???
phatcarz 2 years ago
Do pilots ever get "down time"-are the always one hundred percent focused on flying the airplane, or do they get leisure time (like taking naps)?
poohead95 2 years ago
pilots do get "down time" if it's a long haul flight like this one, they would tend to have 4 pilots. 2 of the pilots are the primary, and the other 2 are the relief. The primary would take the plane off and land it.. while the relief would fly it when it is in the air. They switch between primary to relief then back every 3- 4 hours depending on the company. So they can relax and have a break :P
prenasher 2 years ago 2
In long hauls like the one shown here, they have 2 sets of pilots. Because you can't expect someone to sit for 10 hrs. Usually the same piots will do the t/o and lading while the other will fly mid-flight
creez34 2 years ago
For the -400 if the flight is over 8 hours, you must have a relief crew.
bphendri 2 years ago
Do they still have flight engineers on 747's or has that been needed since the more modern type jets are being used.
casperblackcat1975 2 years ago
Well judging by the cockpit of the 747 it's rather recent so no they probably didn't need any flight engineers
creez34 2 years ago
However they have a relief first officer
speedbird1123 2 years ago
747-100, 200 & 300's needed flight engineers. 747-400 upwards, they got rid of the engineer due to the computers on board.
many airliners and carriers still use the old model 747's and therefore they do have engineers.
dave46563 2 years ago 5
and just for your info, the 747 in this vid is a -400 model (no engineer).
dave46563 2 years ago 2
I think the 300 and 400 don't need them.
thefsxflyer 2 years ago
in airliners like 757s and smaller than it's one and the other sleeps but I don't know about the heavys
yoyoyoyoshua 2 years ago
Your sentence doesnt make sense... The pilot on the right is allowed to sleep.
Mazza4Azza 2 years ago
I would love if I could enter a cockpit during the flight, but I still think they're right not allowing us. I really would feel very unconfortable and unsafe if I had to watch lots of passengers going to the cabin during the flight...
trancebeliever 2 years ago
at 5:22 - 5:25 the 1st officer was looking at a small paper that looks like a receipt...what is that??
clarkyjustin 2 years ago
I believe that is the sheet with all the coordinates and names of the way points for the oceanic crossing
rhythm08 2 years ago
It's a ACARS message off the message printer Lower RIGHT hand side of the pedestal.. Company dispatchers can send routing updates, EnRoute WX updates, and arrival information such as gate changes etc...
bphendri 2 years ago
Those were the good old days when we passengers were allowed in the cockpit.
DoubleGauss 3 years ago
passengers are still allowed in the cockpit, it is down to the captain to allow who is and who is not allowed in the cockpit.
adjb04 3 years ago
That's right. I think you must be a friend of the crew in order to enter the cockpit
cybermariano 3 years ago
they would also have to reopen the doors
TIVIan28 2 years ago
Not on US flag carriers, it is specifically against FAR to allow non CASS certified people on the flight deck.
bphendri 2 years ago
One of the most interesting aviation videos I've ever seen here on youtube. And note at 1:30, the Captain has that thing on his ears to protect them from the intense sound. Excelent close-ups from the panel and MCP, very very interesting.
cybermariano 3 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? Headset? ATC?
thefsxflyer 3 years ago
A sort of headset... if you can say that
cybermariano 3 years ago
Ya, there is a litte thing that goes in his ear and the other part is hanging from his glasses so he can talk.
thefsxflyer 3 years ago
Why was the vnav not on
cessnapilot13 3 years ago
Looks like ALT HOLD on and Speed window open....
2BitB 3 years ago
Probably had to climb or descend per ATC instruction... Or wanted to control the rate of climb/descnet with the V/S mode, and just hasn't re-engaged VNAV
bphendri 2 years ago
how long time takes that flight ?
roxetterc747 3 years ago
If I remember correctly, it's about 12 hours
ZTX4EZWR 3 years ago
@ZTX4EZWR Its actully 14 hrs SFO-HKG
Zdogs22 1 year ago
very nice vid ! , thanks for upload ! :D
roxetterc747 3 years ago
but over sea he can't climb so he must fly a lower level til he reaches land to climb.
florisfloris 3 years ago
why cant you climb over the sea?
togi4661763 3 years ago
You can climb, it only depends about the weight of the plane. You also need to take into consideration a company cost effective flight, which means the company wants you to burn less fuel. So the optimum altitude for this phase of the flight is FL310. Later in the flight I am sure they climbed higher to fly faster and burn even less fuel.
yahweh18 3 years ago
where was the captain? sleeping ?
picfayc 3 years ago
31000 for a 12 hr flight for a 747 is kinda weird, they must fly at like 39000
9891617470 3 years ago
The plane is heavy at takeoff, much of the weight is fuel. At any given weight, there is a maximum altitude the plane can cruise. After the plane burns off fuel and becomes lighter, they'll climb higher..
MikeinSoCal 3 years ago
No you start at a lower altitude until you burn fuel to lighten the aircraft. It's called a step climb, and the FMC calculates that all for you...
bphendri 2 years ago
really cool vid!
bubblemummy1 3 years ago
whats behind the door at 3:22?
pbcmbeez22 3 years ago
The 2 bunks were the pilots take their brake during the long flight. Over 12 hours flight you have dual crew, which means of the 4 pilots, 2 are at rest for half of the flight.
sergiothepilot 3 years ago
Yeah, it's pretty sweet!
ShaefDawg 3 years ago
Actually it's anything over 8 hours you need a relief FO, anything over 10 you need 2 relief pilots, and one must be rated for the left seat.
bphendri 2 years ago
they where below the optimum altitude....
lewisjames1990 3 years ago
weather forced?
911Muscles 3 years ago
Excellent video.Thank you.Well done.
yngtrk 3 years ago 9
what speed should they normally be flying at?
nollidXrocker 3 years ago
very odd that they were flying 303 knots at flight level 31,000 feet
spike2133876 3 years ago
303 knots is the indicated speed! The plane is flying at 505 knots from the ground that it would be the ground speed!
c35i 3 years ago
do pilots get to choose which aircraft they want to fly in life, because they could train for a boeing 747 and they join an airline which only have airbuses?
forces077 3 years ago
the airline will train pilots for the specific type of aircraft they fly. Airlines with more than one type of plane have the pilots bid for type and is awarded by company seniority. To fly something like this 747 a pilot would have to have a lot of company seniority. Some smaller airlines with only one type of aircraft may require the applicant to already be "type certified" for the aircraft.
donlightbody 3 years ago
what do pilots do for most of the flight? it must be pritty boring, can the watch in flight tv or sleep?
forces077 3 years ago
There is another pilot which rotates duties during different segments of the flight. But definitely no sleeping or watching tv in the cockpit.
jkerrigan1990 3 years ago
in the -400 theres bunks in behind a small door right of where the guy filming is standing. usually u got a relief crew of either a senior f/0 and a second officer who take over during cruise above 20000 or if its not that long just carry a s/o. some cowboys even now read magazines, it gets boring as fuck.
gnarkillkicksass 3 years ago
Amazing, it is one of my dreams to be a pilot, but the airlines are going out of business because of the Homeland Security Department and fuel prices.
pcmiler2000 3 years ago
Yeap!! The good old days, when they let lucky passengers to get a tour of the cockpit. Not no more.
pcmiler2000 3 years ago
Man, what do they do for 14 hours inside a plane full of tempting buttons?
pega57 3 years ago
Yes they fly back, there not gonna live in Hong Kong. You see that is a 14 hour flight, if they were to fly there and back they would be up for 28 hours straight which is not very possible. They would be expeiriencing severe fatigue which is not good for pilots. So no they would not fly back in the same day but they would fly back on a different day after they had time to rest. Hope I helped.
BTW, nice video. I love the 747.
DayJetFan 3 years ago
i wonder if thay have to fly back too or do thay just fly to hong kong does any one know
Jmier75 3 years ago
The wind is so loud!
CaptIsaak 4 years ago
The pilots seem very fun and exciting!
Airline79 4 years ago 3
Ha yeah! Couple of old bats!
CaptIsaak 4 years ago
My guess was right, lol. UA 805 SFO-HKG.
Plenty of extra space behind cockpit. Being
an aviation enthusiast, the control panels
were familiar. Good tour of the area.
CoolOrb 4 years ago
the best vid for and enthuiast like my self i've ever seen
jahwell1 4 years ago
money's no object
andreaslund1992 4 years ago
do you need math, when you want to be a pilot?
andreaslund1992 4 years ago
It helps to be good at it - a lot of angular and physical calculations related to flying are math-based so you definitely need some Math skills - calculus and trigonometry helps too. But the mos difficult part in becoming a pilot is money - it also takes a LOT of money and sacrifice to become a commercial pilot.
aimhelix 4 years ago
Yeah but it's worth it. I can't wait until I start flight school.
Airline79 4 years ago
Most important, you gotta be able to deal with paying alimony to three ex-wives. And deal with some boring cockpit conversation with ex-military super conservative types. *yawn*
sacpilot 4 years ago
i hate flying with the Ex-airforce goons. with there "back when i was flying C-17's or A-10s seein some real action etc." your like well whyd you leave then
clearancedelivery 4 years ago
Well, It does help, but it's not like you have to go through serious calculus classes or anything but you have to be able to predict fuel quantities and things like that.
CaptIsaak 4 years ago
wow! I've been flying using x plane and I hope I understand most of those buttons. The Centre panel is where all the computer screen navigation stuff is and all the auto pilot ect. And above the wind screen is the fuel pumps battery avionics and the ignition for the engines and APU. And below the throttle I think is all the radio equipment, for ATC ect.
PeterGoDeees 4 years ago
Long live the 747 - the most beautiful plane I have ever seen! 5 star capture - well done!
RedoutesChoice 4 years ago 3
Hey at 3:46- what are those and what do they mean? They look like airport codes...
elvistheluke 4 years ago
yeah I think your right, I noticed hong kong down the bottom
PeterGoDeees 4 years ago
yeah same here...anyone know what the numbers mean?
elvistheluke 4 years ago
im not sure about this but the left colum is for the waypoints, the center left colum is for the time they should arrive at that waypoint, now the center right colum in not sure about but I think it is the FL, like FL350, etc.. and the far right colum is maybe for the fuel remaining. I am posive about the first 3 colums, but the far right one I just took a guess.
navymmw 4 years ago
Alright well thanks a lot
elvistheluke 4 years ago
That would be the flight Plan... a resumed one. This is sent by the operations dept in the airport to the aircraft, the captain or FO prints it and thats it. The Flight Plan contain the different waypoints, FL, and speeds, which the aircraft has to follow, in order to reach the destination safely.
javkin 4 years ago 2
Thumbs up for the beautiful 747-400!!
turkfromauburn 4 years ago
Very, very nice. Thanks!
HollywdPatGB 4 years ago
very good video
rusan000 4 years ago
Wow, so much for recording in a US plane being illegal XD
I wish I could get footage like this. That's cool stuff!
OMGLysses 4 years ago
cool
gearsofjack 4 years ago 2
I like this video!
HafizSayyad 4 years ago
That was excellent
christychackojohn 4 years ago
Excellent look at the flight deck! Great video. Thank you!
N9088D 4 years ago
THATS REALLY COOL REALLY COOL
symngai 4 years ago
thanks for the video! Two comments earlier about bad sound quality...that is the way it sounds in the cockpit! So it is quite good actually!
tonpilot 4 years ago
very very good video gives you a detailed view of the cockpit well done
PeterGoDeees 4 years ago
Very bad sound quality but very clear video... I like the instrument panel... This looks like one of the modern generation B747s.....
EsotericDesi 4 years ago
that's a cockpit sound.. maybe you should step in jet cockpit before you criticize the quality of the sound.
nasdaqdjitraders 4 years ago
Nice!
TheOneYouH8 4 years ago
Very nice video! Thank you :)
Quackelsack 4 years ago
its a perfect vıdeo man!thx
utuber199 4 years ago
Great video! Also hats off to PMDG - I've never set foot in a 744 cockpit yet it's all so familiar.
PZSIX131 4 years ago 3
YEAH I agree with you a 100%
ual1565 4 years ago
its sad how after 911 airlines have mad it really hard to get a jumpseat ride, we was flying a 767 from IAD to SFO and some guy paid 2,000 for a jumpseat ride
clearancedelivery 4 years ago
AWESOME !
SD70MAC 4 years ago
i love these kind of cockpit vids, keep them comming!
billaire1 4 years ago
brillant i know every instrument there!
lewisduncan93 4 years ago