The gay agenda: Discrimination

[ChakatBlackstar]

Orientation is not a chosen behavior. Do you know what is? Religion.

[44SCB]

The gay agenda dose discriminate. It discriminates against CHRISTians it discriminates against people who chose not 2 be gay by labeling them as gay. And worst of all if people can't chose to be strait or gay then sexual harassment in schools gets much worse because kids can call u gay and it's politically correct.

[createallow3126]

@44SCB Yes and black folks discriminate against the KKK. How dare they?

[44SCB]

@createallow3126 Christians dont descriminate against gays we simply state that they r wrong.

[createallow3126]

@44SCB I would prefer if neither Christians or gays felt alienation of any sort. Sound good? :)

[Nauticalman]

Homosexuals HAVE BEEN ATTACKING faith based groups for over 2 decades now. -Yeah, tolerance, huh? If ANYONE is to blame for people not supporting homosexual beliefs, its the homosexuals themselves. Who wants to live under their hatred and antiamerican beliefs?

[freshtoastynuts]

@Nauticalman HA! Wow, it's so fascinating to see people that actually believe ridiculous things like this. It's all about YOU, you poor christian soul, I dont know how you can put up with all these ATTACKS from gay people who request such outlandish things like equal rights. It must be hard, like, I dont know... Maybe like when people get beaten to death because of something they had no choice in! Actually wait, it's nothing like that at all...

[NazoTheAce]

Really dub arguement.

atheist

[Elbro92]

Epic Paradox!

[unashamedevangelist]

Jesus died and fulfilled the laws and sacrifices of the Old Testament. I trust God's Word also. The New Law did not abolish the Old Law, it fulfilled it. The New Law is written on our hearts, no longer on tables of stone. Jesus even said that He came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. I don't have to sacrifice two turtledoves every time I sin, I can take it up with Jesus.

[unashamedevangelist]

Jasmine, I'm starting to wonder about your sanity. In the Torah, God punished the Jews for not following His laws.  Why do you think America is any different? The difference between a possible Christian nation and a Muslim nation is that we wouldn't kill people because they wouldn't choose to follow Christ. Muslim execute anyone who expresses a desire to leave the faith. We would live under Christian rules where people would have free will but things like gay marriage, abortion-Banned.

[jasmine5000]

so i guess you dont think god meant what he said about the law lasting for ever in psalms. thats the difference between christians and jews.

we jews believe god meant what he said. we can trust his word. when he says something, he means it and it is everlasting. for his glory.

shalom

[unashamedevangelist]

Jasmine, I already told you that the 613 laws no longer apply since Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice on the law. The new law is written on our heart. In the New Testament, homosexuality is deemed an abominable practice.  Also, Jesus died for all of us, stop being self-righteous and thinking that only Jews go to Heaven...John 3 16"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

[unashamedevangelist]

God said to the Jewish people in the Old Testament "I desire mercy not sacrifice," because the Jews had become so corrupt and weren't doing things from the hear, so I don't know why Jews are still doing sacrifices. The clothes they wear are for show, "Look at me I'm a Jew," but don't follow God's teachings. I don't wear clothing that says, "Look at me I'm a Christian," because I actually live my faith and stand up for what's Godly unlike you hypocrite.

[unashamedevangelist]

jasmine, it seems that you want to pick and choose what nonsense you are going to follow. I am a buffet Christian, I follow ALL the teachings of Jesus Christ. You refuse to acknowledge that homosexuality is a sin. If you are in the lifestyle you are committing two sins; one of spreading false doctrine and one of engaging in the abomination of homosexual acts. Learn your Torah better you ignorant Jew.

[jasmine5000]

it is also against devine law to intermarry between faiths. should we make all marriages between jews and christians, christians and muslims, pagans and christians, all of those disolved? should we execute everyone that isnt a believer in the lord?

I have asked you over and over again if we should inforce every one of the 613 laws, you have evaded my question. but you accuse me of ignoreing my law but i dont. i follow every one.

[jasmine5000]

it is christians that dont believe the law applys to them. gods law applys to everyone. but we live in a secular country. everyone is rfee to believe in any religion they please. we dont inforce gods law against those that dont believe. if you want to live in a therocracy, go try saudi arabia and see how fun it in.

[jasmine5000]

im starting to wonder about your sanity and intellegence. i never havent acknowleged homosexuality as a sin. i said we sholdnt inforce it aw law because we live in a secular country. do you want to live in a therocracy.

jesus didnt forfill any prophecy. he wasnt the messiah. you fell for a satanic lie. a satanic attempt to destroy the jewish faith

[jasmine5000]

Psalms 111:7-9. The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption to his people: he has commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.

there you go. the laws are still active, never to be ignored. they stand for ever. deal with it christians

[unashamedevangelist]

The Covenant was fulfilled with the death/resurrection of Jesus Christ, but maybe you didn't read that part of the Torah either. We can eat shrimp, pork, and we don't have to have a priest go to offer sacrifices in atonement for our sins, because we can go directly to God the Father through His Son Jesus Christ. Also, you said "civil rights," but criminals could easily argue that crimes such as murder, rape, etc. should be legal so as not to infringe upon their rights.

[jasmine5000]

pervert your own doctrine ? how our scripture came from god, though moses, and many of the ancient prophets. joshuah, soloman, david. get the point how is that perverted. even your christianity has judaism as its foundation. but you perverted it, adding an entirely new fabricated crap, the new testament.

yes i know of the biblical law against homosexuality. theres more, 613 remember. i asked you if you want to incode them all into laws we must follow? or do you just want to pick and choose

[jasmine5000]

im sorry, fabricated crap was out of line.

christians preaching christianity at me irrates me. it seems so arrogant of them to claim their faith forfilled mine. that they are right and iam wrong. Its very irritating. but im sorry for lashing out.

[MomntrySilence]

IN YOUR OPINION. BUT, your a dumbass so who cares

[jasmine5000]

i dont understand this. People who disagree with homosexuals civil rights are homophobes. IF the shoe fits wear it. It doesnt mean homophobes cant have rights they do. They are free to their opinion, no one says they dont. Just dont enforce it and discriminate.

Like people who dont think black people should have the right to vote will be called racist.

Thats the good thing about America, assholes and jerks can have the same civil rights as the rest of us. We just call them assholes.

[unashamedevangelist]

jasmine5000, everyone who disagrees with your filth and abominations is a homophobe aren't they? If people are free to their opinions, why do you label people who oppose sodomite marriage and the spread of AIDS homophobes? Gays have the highest rates of AIDS. The anus was meant for digestion, not to be used and abused as a sex organ. Liberals are the root of decay in our great land. The people never have a say, it's "shove your garbage down our throat's week here in the U.S."

[jasmine5000]

if you want to stop aids, then make all sex outside of marriage illegal. aids is high in prostitutes also.

you are free to be a homophobe. no one says you cant have your opinion. we allow the klan. people can be as racist, biggoted or homophobic as they please. if the shoe fits, wear it

[unashamedevangelist]

jasmine 5000, it sounds like you are trapped in some liberal cult where anyone who dares speak out is persecuted because they disagree with your self-righteous agenda. I am not a racist; I am a Puerto Rican. I am not afraid of gay people, therefore I am not a homophobe. Telling someone that anal sex is unhealthy because the anus is full of bacteria, blood, feces, hair, etc., is not being homophobic. It's being hygenic and avoiding a lot of future rectal problems. Also, it's against God.

[jasmine5000]

fine outlaw anal sex lol. tell everyone they cant have anal sex. that takes care of that. so how about lesbian couples? lesbian couples dont have to worry about it so whats your problem with them?

you dont want to talk about whats against god with me because im a jewish woman. I know exactly what the torah says is against god. there are 613 of the laws. everything from marrying someone of another faith to what type of work one can do is covered. want to outlaw all of that too?

[unashamedevangelist]

By the way, in the most LIBERAL state, California, proposition 8 passed by 4 percent. 61 percent of Americans oppose sodomite "marriage." Gay relationships corrode traditional values. Children in school are already confused enough, why do we need to confuse them any further? "nor homosexual offenders...will inherit the kingdom of God."

[unashamedevangelist]

So think, you're calling the 70 percent of minorities in California "homophobes" because they opposed rectal abuse. Gay marriage is disgusting. It's a lot of pedophilic men who want to prey on little boys. First, you allow gay marriage, next you allow marriage to animals, then to trees, then to cars, then to chess pieces, I mean, when does your madness stop? Keep your filth out of the U.S.A. please. I said please...

[jasmine5000]

It's a lot of pedophilic men who want to prey on little boys. lol

lets leave those pedephile mormons and warren jeffs and the vatican out of it.

Marrage to animals and children, they cant consent or sign anything. marriage to two adults?

i think christians problem is they want to be incharge and regulate everyones lives. but they should clean up their back yard before trying to pass judgment on everyone else. your backyard is dirty enough. so many pedephiles in your clergy

[unashamedevangelist]

jasmine5000, and the government doesn't already regulate our lives? You can't go around killing people because you "love" to do it." You can't go around stealing, because you "love" the product. You can't rape people because you "love

" their body. You can't go around speeding because you "love" to drive quickly. As you can see, there are already laws that regulate our lives and basic morality. Get a clue.

[jasmine5000]

when one steals, someone else looses and thats they stealing is illegal. rape harms the victim. murder, someone dies. there has to be a victim that is harmed if you want to try to regulate morality acording to yours, then a entire class of people may be harmed. the goverment begimes to take on a fascist shape.

As a jewish woman, i know. My grandmother lived in germany when the national socialists were incontrol. she spent years at the dakau. Is that what you may one day do to gays

[unashamedevangelist]

Well, but you're "harming" thieves, liars, speedists, rapists, murders, etc. Those are entire classes of people. No, gays have their "freedoms," you're attempting to shove Christianity under the rug and I would rather die than deny my faith in JESUS CHRIST. Stop living under the Old Covenant, repent and be forgiven through the blood of Jesus Christ! God bless and have a great New Year.

[jasmine5000]

once they choose crime, to harm other people instead of respecting their civil rights, they forfitted their own rights.

dont ask us to deny god infavor of Jesus. thats arragonce. The Covenant is eternal and everlasting. it says so itself, read it.

[unashamedevangelist]

jasmine5000, Jesus was the Son of God, who died for our sins, so you are stuck living in the Old Testament. Jews are just unperfected Christians. Through Jesus Christ and in Christ alone can we be made perfect. Gay marriage harms young children and corrupts society, so it should remain illegal as well as it's against the Torah and the New Testament, but maybe you haven't read the Torah in its entirety yet? "It is an abomination for man to lay with man as it is for woman to lay with woman."

[unashamedevangelist]

Also, I can't control every single pedophile. People sometimes have to clean up their own acts, so don't pass judgment on something that's out of my control.

[unashamedevangelist]

It figures that you're a Jew since you pervert your own doctrine and worship a warped sense of God. "It is an abomination for man to lay with man as it is for woman to lay with woman," or maybe you just skipped over that part? Lesbian and gay are one and the same, stop using the childish, sugar-coated rhetoric. Lady, you don't want to talk God with me; my God is greater than yours, and my Bible will destroy your perverted version of the Torah.

[thursdaysrecords]

We never hear about gays desperately trying to convince heterosexuals to change their sexual habits. Why then do some heterosexuals feel the urge to convert gays?

Why do some heterosexuals feel so superior simply because they enjoy sex with members of the opposite sex? And why do they always require the help of an invisible, silent and by many measures make believe "God" to make their non-existing point?

Whenever there is no problem at all, religious zealots swoop in to "fix things".

[heldenmatt]

Fear. Anyone who is comfortable in their own skin should not see sexual orientation as a threat. My take on this issue is that those that feel they are being "converted" are actually coming out of their closets.

[KountdownExpress]

When gays write their gay agendas, congressman, do they write them in gay dayplanners with sequins and rainbows on them? We need to know these things if we're going to stop the nefarious gay agenda.

[Tjarn110]

Wait.. was what he just said even a sentence?

[tallboxer]

homo is the worst insult you can say. being an MP in the army, its my duty and pleasure to report gay activity. i have personaly been responsible for two gays getting there abnormal asses kicked out of the army. U.S. Army SGT, proud to serve.

[zigbone]

I agree, I cant stand to see these clowns in uniform they CAN'T even carry themselves in a milliant manner. A pure disgrace in uniform ask the Navy. Limp wrist and "switching their hips" trying to out femminize the females is just retarded.

[aarrcchhoonntt]

You just restored my faith in America.

[jerrydoubleu]

tallboxer, you are one of those hypocytical self-hating closet homos. Look me up if you want some big action in your rear end.

[Tilara]

LMFAO!!!

[RealityChekr]

The Overhauling of Straight America

by Marshall K. Kirk and Erastes Pill

"Our campaign should not demand direct support for homosexual practices, should instead take anti-discrimination as its theme. "

Gee, sound familiar? Homosexuals all claim they are not following an agenda, and they've never read Kirk & Madsens propaganda manifesto...so why are they all following it?!

[RealityChekr]

Starvalley, you problem is homosexual extremists are instructed via a psy-ops script to claim homosexuality is not chosen.

And you hatred, bigotry and intolerance of conservatives and republicans evidences your narrow minded, intoleant homosexist bigotry.

[Shin0bi152]

Interesting how you ignored all of court0114's posts...

[Starvalleybotany]

Well isn't that just special. John Hostettler is just extra special now isn't he? The lies that are found here are sickening. Hostettler's statement about homosexuality being "a chosen behavior" is another evidence of his ignorance about people who are gay. I can't believe how dumb these Neocon Republicans are.

[zigbone]

Whats even more sickening are the paid off judges,scientist,poilitains from gay actvist. We know all about the bogus gay studies. We know about they shotty expirements and doctored reports. Its sad how these neo-liberals buy into something without digging for truth. They believe because they seen it on t.v

[RealityChekr]

I proudly discriminate. In fact, I am quite a discriminating fellow. You're guilty of being indiscriminate.

I discriminate against different colors when it comes time to buying cars. I discriminate against males when it comes time to dating. I discriminate against many foods. I discriminate against drunks and cigarette smokers. I discriminate against liars.

I am PROUD to be discriminatory, but I didn't just wake up one day and decided to be discriminatory, so it must be genetic!

[macman13]

Even if homosexuality were a chosen behavior (which is total shat dookie) discriminating against them would still be wrong. Is it wrong for example to discriminate against christians?

[RealityChekr]

You homosexual extremists need to try actually posting some evidence if you expect anyone to counter it.

But your problem is going to be since it has been stratgegized by homosexual mass public pursuasian experts to claim homosexuality is genetic as part of a marketing plan, all the bought and paid for advocacy studies that haave not past peer review muster will be highly suspect in the credibility department.

[court0114]

What Causes a Person To Have a Particular Sexual Orientation?

There are numerous theories about the origins of a person's sexual orientation; most scientists today agree that sexual orientation is most likely the result of a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors. In most people, sexual orientation is shaped at an early age.

[court0114]

There is also considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality. In summary, it is important to recognize that there are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation and the reasons may be different for different people.

[court0114]

Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?

No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

[court0114]

Can Therapy Change Sexual Orientation?

No. Even though most homosexuals live successful, happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may seek to change their sexual orientation through therapy, sometimes pressured by the influence of family members or religious groups to try and do so. The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness. It does not require treatment and is not changeable.

[court0114]

These are some exerts from info. sites.

The fact of the matter is that since you assume a conspiracy then you would consider an evidence I could give you part of the conspiracy. You would assume any evidence part of the conspiracy.

[Jakemmx]

They have more evidence than you, but you are probably one of those people that believe there is more evidence for creationism than evolution........ Also, the anti-gay people are much more emotional than the pro-gay ones. I would suspect them of tampering data just as much or more than the gays.

[zigbone]

so why do gays promote its natural without it actually being proven? Why do actvist try to "shush" scentific critism and questioning with homophobia. You can't even have your own opion without being called homphobic! I though tthese was America. I thought you can question and investigate? Yes, the gay adgenda is starting to show its corupted head slowly at a time

[Tilara]

I completely agree, ppl are always being called homophobic when they have an opinion that differs from the gay agenda, but if you question anyone eles' belief or choice its justified research/interrogation(sp). such a double standard.

[RealityChekr]

Clemburke, is it not wise to study the ways of ones adversaries?

[RealityChekr]

court0114 the homophile uses the scritped agenda tactic strategized by Kirk & Madsen to silence oppositon they called the "jamming" tactic using the homophobe epithet:

"At a later stage of the media campaign for gay rights-long after other gay ads have become commonplace-it will be time to get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified"

[court0114]

Instead of rebutting scientific evidence RealityChekr you are trying to invent some wacko conspiracy theory. If the evidence is wrong counter it!

[Clemburke1111]

Reality I noticed your in several " gay agenda " topics, why the interest?

[Ulyesse17]

Why are you looking at the gay agenda topics??

[RealityChekr]

"Now, there are two different messages about the Gay Victim that are worth communicating. First, the mainstream should be told that gays are victims of fate, in the sense that most never had a choice to accept or reject their sexual preference. The message must read: "As far as gays can tell, THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY, just as you were born heterosexual or white or black or bright or athletic."

[RealityChekr]

Readers, homophiles like court0114 are claiming that homosexuality is genetic because they are following a unified script of deception created by mass public pursuasian and psychologial manipulation experts Kirk & Madsen.

[court0114]

RealityChekr it might surprise you that I am not gay. I do however happen to read incessantly and am interested in the way the human brain functions. Phobias I understand can be terrible to live with but science has in its grasp the tools to rid those like you of these pesky things. I will be happy to recommend some of these tools

[court0114]

I find this type of ignorance laughable. Are these guys familiar with current research regarding sexual orientation? The studies coming from researchers in England? Sexual orientation is not a choice. The current studies tend to point to ones sexual orientation as being formed in the womb before birth. Look at any current respected study from objective science.

[RealityChekr]

Below are just some of the things homos did 2 terrorize & the APA to remove homosexuality from their DSM list:

1. Forge APA credentials

2. Trespassed into APA meetings

3. Threatened anyone who opposed removal of homo from DSM list

4. Disrupted APA speakers

5. Homo terrorist STOLE APA letterhead stationery

6. Homo terrorists threated APA members with phsycial violence

7. Homo terrorists forge fake APA letters to make it appear it came from the APA board, then sent it out to all APA members.

[RealityChekr]

Readers, you'll see a common, scripted theme homos use- American Psychiatric Assoc removed homosexuality from their DSM list of mental disorders. This PR coup 4 homos continues 23 yrs later!

If you want to find out how homos pressured, disrupted, terrorized, stole, & criminal conspired against the APA to accomplish this, read the book titled; "Homosexuality & American Psychiatry" by pro-homo psychiatrist Dr. Ronald Bayer who has blown the whistle on how homos accomplished this deception.

[RealityChekr]

CurtainRod, I suggest you actually read my other posts, I have alreayd exposed how homosexual terrorized and connived to get the APA to remove it, a homosexual who blew the whistle on how homos did that wrote book on it. The fact that you parrot the homo agenda party line about the APA to gain credibility for your perversion evidences the public relations values homos anticipated so they sought to terrorize the APA into it's removal from their DSM list.

[RealityChekr]

wearesky, your ad hominem post was unsubstantive.

I already know what homos think considering I'm the oppostion.

You may wish to give some thought to the maximum post lengths & various means of abbreviation, sort of like typing homos instead of homosexuals before you use the scripted "jamming" tactic again.

Now, do you have anything substantive to add?

[CurtainRod]

The APA removed it because they found that homosexuals were psychologically no different than heterosexuals. stop being an idiot.

and if you really wanted to shorten it, why not say "gays"(which i still despise as a term but is still less offensive than "homos"... and shorter)

[RealityChekr]

The fact that homosexual agenda extremsits regualary trot out the APA DSM removal of homosexuality proves that they had a motive for their terrorism and treachery from the get go.

The funny thing is, the whistle blowing on how they schemed came not from their arch -enemy, meaning anyone who refuses to glorify homosexuality, but from a homo himself.

[weareskyscrapers]

maybe people would bother listening to your asinine points if you started referring to homosexuals as people and not as "homos," makes you sound smarter and less like an eleven year old boy. :) <3

[Tilara]

i see nothing wrong with shortening a word, takes less time and effort to get your point across. its just like shortening any other name

[weareskyscrapers]

way to respond to a comment i made a year ago. you're a little late to the party, aren't you, sweetheart?

[weareskyscrapers]

and no, actually, it's not like "shortening any other name." you are terrifyingly stupid.

[RealityChekr]

The APA removed homosexuality from their DSM list not on the basis of sound science, but because homosexual extremists terrorized the APA, disrupted their conventions, threatend all the members, then bought the member list, then stole APA board stationery, send out fake letters to all members to vote for removal. Homos haev been exploting that terrorism as PR fodder for decades, proving they had an agenda.

[shadowlawn3761]

This guy's as bad as Miss South Carolina. She of course is a teenager and student, he is an "educated" adult and a member of Congress.

[brycekulak]

I love hearing tiny-brained politicians toss about hot-topic catch-phrases they don't understand as a last-straw grasp at support. It's so Bushesque.

[brycekulak]

Q: What's a homosexual agenda?

A: Well, the homosexual agenda is expanding, uh, for example, um, uh, so-called—expanding discrimination to another—area of, in my opinion, a—a chosen behaviour.

Um, uh, a—a... Excuse me? Are you even listening to yourself?

You're a little slow, but you're cute. Wanna hold hands?

[leojboby]

It was discarded from being a mental illness because "by the late 1960's and early 1970's the morally vacant and unscientific labeling of gays as mentally ill was being challenged by doctors such as Evelyn Hooker, who proved that homosexuals were psychologically no different than heterosexuals. By 1973, a landslide of modern research that relied on science, not stereotypes, vanquished the backward theories of those who said gay people were sick." truthwinsout(dot)com

[leojboby]

Still, the american psychological association will review their current policy as of 10 july 2007.

But not to worry the pre-condemnation by conservatives will unprove whatever this might prove. unless it sways their way. Same will probably happen with pro-gays. Independently, this review might be weigh in on the big scheme of thing, like permitting gay marriage and attempting to raise awareness of the dangers of gay discrimination at schools.

[Ultrasecond]

He bases this 'opinion' that homosexuality is a choice rather than something beyond your control not on any scientific evidence whatsoever. Such as how racists in the deep south don't base their 'opinion' of people who look different from them on any scientific evidence.

Ironically, what he's doing in that sentence IS DISCRIMINATION.

[leojboby]

Actually this dude, Richard Cohen, said he has an 85% success rate from homo to hetero.

And narth(dot)com also has a very interesting position to what respects of being a homo.

[Luguolo]

then its a lie. its been proven that the rates have never breached 50% and that afterwords, atleast 25% of them feel they are being forced to leave a part of themselves, and are still attracted to the same sex, but realize "its wrong now". so finish reading your facts, not just the parts you want to hear.

[ClemClemens1111]

I know wha my Homosexual agenda is,,,that is to make Dinner for my family and tomorrow work in the yard.

[Chaddishfaction]

WHAT A COCK SUCK

[makeyourowndamnpie]

This man looks and sounds gay! He's deeply in the closet. : )D LOLOL

[sadisticon]

I agree!

[ratpat]

Another idiot trumpeting his beliefs through politics on the back of "morality."

[pno4tay]

"now, if you'll turn off that damn microphone and leave me alone, I hear the bathroom upstairs is cruisy"...

[ReubinAlexander]

I'm gay, and I just have to say what he says is true. I just love waking up every day and expanding some discrimination to my chosen behavior, dont you?

[shrinkwrap]

Expanding discrimination to my chosen behavior is only my NUMBER ONE MOST FAVORITEST thing to do!

[ReubinAlexander]

Right on, brotha!

[ShunGuan]

Yes, as a matter of fact, my partner and I helped expand discrimination to my chosen behavior just this morning! We're hoping for further expansion tonight in order to break even with the doctrine of our Hidden Agenda.

[salza201080]

i'm so gay, and my yes i do love expandinf discrimiation to my chosen behavoiur..got a problem with that?