The Clans capture the Coordinator's GRANDson (who happened to have two siblings) and the entire Combine is threatened? Or is that just an excuse for the Black Dragons to make the Combine moronic again with their reactionary views?
on zenith and nadir...it's simply to avoid the planets and asteroids on the ecliptic plane most solar systems have. gravity propagates as an even sphere around a star, and there are "pirate" points to jump to known to be clear of mass
@alanrowl Remember that Pirate Points in any system are near suicidal at best, since the jump ship crew need to calculate the co-ordinates properly, or else they could appear in the middle of an asteroid field or worse.
Elementals are so badass. The Clans should've started out their invasion using mostly those and as few Mechs as possible just to intimidate the hell out of the Inner Sphere then when they come up with strategies to fight Elementals start bringing in the Omnimechs.
One would surmise that the Clans, being arrogant as they were/are, never thought for a second the IS could defeat them (as stated in the books and games) so what reason would they have for such maneuvers of their forces?
As always with all armies, arrogance is the downfall.
i dont see why they would really need them since they are at the zenith and nadir areas of the star. which wouldnt have anything coming that way because thats where the gravity is weakist
Since Jumpships almost always iuse the Nadir or Zenith points of a system, don't you think that the enemy also uses those same places when jumping from system to system? Hm... someone perhaps does not use their brain.
wait I thought this was cannon?.....they used that intro in the time of war rpg page 16 (I got the beta....and I'm still perusing but I think they fixed everything they fucked up in MW 3rd ed.) I remember reading and being like....wait is that the cartoon intro? YEAH IT IS!!!! Also doesn't Adam become Archon? And the enhanced imaging rule was based on this cartoon not vice versa. Though it might still be conjecture....like something noncannon based on cannon....are you sure it's not cannon?
Well, for the most part, a good deal of it is cannon, but a while back a friend of mine went on a rather long winded, not to mention convincing rant on the "non-cannon" elements within the cartoon, which i mean is to be expected when you adapt something to a childrens cartoon. However, i could be completely wrong on all counts. I'm actually going to look back into it, because i can't say with any degree of certainty at this point. I know, a good deal of it is cannon, but you gotta shave the fat.
Yeah that's probably the best way of looking at it....like I heard someone mention that the archon looked way too young. I remember there was a whole list of flubs in this thing.
@TheFrostedLlama The series exists in-universe as a Propaganda series about actual events, and some of the character have appeared in cannon. Any errors exist to hide the truth and make the Fed Suns look better.
why do people compare this to Battletech? the cartoons play out more like a "Mechwarriors" (the RPG) campaign than that of Classic Battletech. Summerset Strikers finding SLDF base 'Camelot', Draconis princes in jeopardy and unbeknown hidden royalty in the unit WHILE on the way to save the planet Summerset...? Yaaah not very Battletech to me but VERY VERY Mechwarriors to me. (again, the Mechwarriors RPG and not the Microsoft Mechwarriors)
The encounter on Turtle Bay shown here, is descripted almost exactly like the first book, Lethal Herritage, which is the introduction to the clan invasion.
Incidentally, the rebels in this episode are speculated to be the Black Dragons, who later side with Word of Blake to try once again to topple the Kuritas.
really? hmm I guess they were bad guys then....as a faithful free worlds league supporter I despise the treachory of the word....but I wonder if franklin would have sided with them if he were coordinator.
yeah see so as moral as franklin is ...had he joined the rebels he might have made the combine a freer government. Though I know the black dragons wanted a MORE racist government.
Dude you're wrong. You made a complete ass of yourself and there's no way to make a comeback or salvage your dignity at this point. I don't know why you felt the need to start a in the first place or how you could possibly not know that the ruler of the Draconis Combine is called the coordinator but you were totally out of line and wrong. I called you a moron to point out your hypocrisy and There is no way for you to continue the banter at this point. Unplug the keyboard and walk away.
I <3 you tube for bringing me all these old school toons they even have ulyses 31 which i thought was just some strange memory that id made up but its a real show :D
haha i know what you mean, it's like a vague memory and sometimes you'll see stuff that reminds you of it. And that day when you finally find out what is was is fuckign great.
There was another episode after this. Adam goes to Sommerset and challanges Nikolai for possesion of the planet. Adam wins, but the clans take all the people from the planet with them when they withdraw, since Adam didnt say anything about who would own them in his challange.
There was at least one more episode after this. Adam goes back to Somersett and challanges Nikolai to one on one combat for the rights of the planet. Adam wins, but he finds out the clans took all the Sommersett prisoners with them when they left, including Steiners brother (since Adam didnt mention possession of them in the "bid") I think it ends with Adam vowing to find his brother and rescue him.
its a HAtAmoto somthing though the hatamoto has the endings chi kaze and mizo but judging by the era its most likly a chi or kaze mizo was a newer model of the hatamoto put into production more in the late part and after the invasion
They just don't have storys about honor anymore on cartoons!
TheGroundedAviator 1 month ago
The Clans capture the Coordinator's GRANDson (who happened to have two siblings) and the entire Combine is threatened? Or is that just an excuse for the Black Dragons to make the Combine moronic again with their reactionary views?
Significantpower 1 year ago
on zenith and nadir...it's simply to avoid the planets and asteroids on the ecliptic plane most solar systems have. gravity propagates as an even sphere around a star, and there are "pirate" points to jump to known to be clear of mass
alanrowl 1 year ago
@alanrowl Remember that Pirate Points in any system are near suicidal at best, since the jump ship crew need to calculate the co-ordinates properly, or else they could appear in the middle of an asteroid field or worse.
Gallowell 1 year ago
Elementals are so badass. The Clans should've started out their invasion using mostly those and as few Mechs as possible just to intimidate the hell out of the Inner Sphere then when they come up with strategies to fight Elementals start bringing in the Omnimechs.
recniabsal 2 years ago
One would surmise that the Clans, being arrogant as they were/are, never thought for a second the IS could defeat them (as stated in the books and games) so what reason would they have for such maneuvers of their forces?
As always with all armies, arrogance is the downfall.
gribae 2 years ago
Is there a late 90's version of this show? or something similar? I remember a cartoon with mech warriors but it was more recent than this.
allstarpcg 2 years ago
nope this is the original
avdquick 2 years ago
jump ships dont have weapons
robspartan117 3 years ago
yea they got the lasers on the sides and also they can just let fly a banshee r 2
Mariofan2860 3 years ago
Jumpships dont have weapons for ahve the ability to carry fighters.
thats why its against the Aries Convention to fire on a jumpship
the military has Warships that can Jump, but most of the fighting is left to Corvettes and Dropships. Jumpships dont do anything but carry troops
robspartan117 3 years ago
sry yea i was thinkin of a dropship. Jumpships do have meator repellers though.
Mariofan2860 3 years ago
Actually those lasers are meant for clearing meteors. They can be used as a last-ditch weapon if necessary, however.
shuboy05 2 years ago
i dont see why they would really need them since they are at the zenith and nadir areas of the star. which wouldnt have anything coming that way because thats where the gravity is weakist
robspartan117 2 years ago
Since Jumpships almost always iuse the Nadir or Zenith points of a system, don't you think that the enemy also uses those same places when jumping from system to system? Hm... someone perhaps does not use their brain.
gribae 2 years ago
@gribae when did i say that they dont use the same points?
fag
robspartan117 2 years ago
Enh, this show isn't cannon anyhow. Still good though.
TheFrostedLlama 2 years ago
@TheFrostedLlama
It's BattleTech/MechWarrior. Nothing else needs saying, quineg?
gribae 2 years ago
wait I thought this was cannon?.....they used that intro in the time of war rpg page 16 (I got the beta....and I'm still perusing but I think they fixed everything they fucked up in MW 3rd ed.) I remember reading and being like....wait is that the cartoon intro? YEAH IT IS!!!! Also doesn't Adam become Archon? And the enhanced imaging rule was based on this cartoon not vice versa. Though it might still be conjecture....like something noncannon based on cannon....are you sure it's not cannon?
Limejello10512 2 years ago
Well, for the most part, a good deal of it is cannon, but a while back a friend of mine went on a rather long winded, not to mention convincing rant on the "non-cannon" elements within the cartoon, which i mean is to be expected when you adapt something to a childrens cartoon. However, i could be completely wrong on all counts. I'm actually going to look back into it, because i can't say with any degree of certainty at this point. I know, a good deal of it is cannon, but you gotta shave the fat.
TheFrostedLlama 2 years ago
Yeah that's probably the best way of looking at it....like I heard someone mention that the archon looked way too young. I remember there was a whole list of flubs in this thing.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
@TheFrostedLlama The series exists in-universe as a Propaganda series about actual events, and some of the character have appeared in cannon. Any errors exist to hide the truth and make the Fed Suns look better.
KellAnderson 1 year ago
Some do, but most jumpships do not. but all have anti-meteor guns, which is what they said they where in the show.
nebfer 2 years ago
why do people compare this to Battletech? the cartoons play out more like a "Mechwarriors" (the RPG) campaign than that of Classic Battletech. Summerset Strikers finding SLDF base 'Camelot', Draconis princes in jeopardy and unbeknown hidden royalty in the unit WHILE on the way to save the planet Summerset...? Yaaah not very Battletech to me but VERY VERY Mechwarriors to me. (again, the Mechwarriors RPG and not the Microsoft Mechwarriors)
Leeroy002 3 years ago
i take it you never read any of the books have you?
robspartan117 2 years ago
draconis units using wolfhounds and stiener units using maulers..... something is wrong here.
GregoleX 3 years ago
Its not as easy to quickly scuttle a mech as it is a ship or tank.
onigojira 2 years ago
The encounter on Turtle Bay shown here, is descripted almost exactly like the first book, Lethal Herritage, which is the introduction to the clan invasion.
GreenFenril 3 years ago
AH!!
I remember this was shown on TCC when i was young.. :D been looking for it since
Jorgen87 3 years ago 2
I understand Adam became archon after the assassination of peter steiner....what became of franklin? Does anyone know?
Limejello10512 3 years ago
Franklin became head of the Otomo IIRC. His father did acknowledge Franklin as his son and his heirs pop up in the Dark Age era.
shuboy05 2 years ago
COOL!!!!!!! Thanks man. It's awesome to know how that panned out.... truth be told I wish franklin had sided with the rebels though.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
Incidentally, the rebels in this episode are speculated to be the Black Dragons, who later side with Word of Blake to try once again to topple the Kuritas.
shuboy05 2 years ago
really? hmm I guess they were bad guys then....as a faithful free worlds league supporter I despise the treachory of the word....but I wonder if franklin would have sided with them if he were coordinator.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
Franklin, siding with the Word? Nahh, Franklin is much too loyal to the Combine to side with the toaster worshipers.
shuboy05 2 years ago
yeah see so as moral as franklin is ...had he joined the rebels he might have made the combine a freer government. Though I know the black dragons wanted a MORE racist government.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
Coordinator? This isn't Gundam you slagging moron.
gribae 2 years ago
no this is battletech where the ruler of the draconis combine is called the"coordinator of worlds"... you slagging moron.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
@Limejello10512
copying is a form of flattery.
gribae 2 years ago
Dude you're wrong. You made a complete ass of yourself and there's no way to make a comeback or salvage your dignity at this point. I don't know why you felt the need to start a in the first place or how you could possibly not know that the ruler of the Draconis Combine is called the coordinator but you were totally out of line and wrong. I called you a moron to point out your hypocrisy and There is no way for you to continue the banter at this point. Unplug the keyboard and walk away.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
@Limejello10512
I have no time for wankers or pricks or anyone who wants to argue over a fictional series that has no relevance save for a book and game franchise.
I shall ignore and block you from now on.
gribae 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
well then I would just like to say to everyone else who might be reading this: the first post by gribae:
Coordinator? This isn't Gundam you slagging moron.
:bow:
Limejello10512 2 years ago
btw this was about me not being a moron not the franchise.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
In 3067 he's the head of the Otomo infantry battalion. Currently he's MIA, abducted by the Black Dragoons from what I know.
Katiara Kylie: last I know she was the commander of an Aerospace fighter brigade, attached to Adams command the 14th Donegal Guards (as of 3062)
Hawkins: is a liaison officer to the Star Seeds merc unit
Rachel: Adams Aid
Pytor: makes a book cameo EI is affecting him though (I Am Jade Falcon)
Redmond: shows up in the book Operation Audacity IIRC
nebfer 2 years ago
I <3 you tube for bringing me all these old school toons they even have ulyses 31 which i thought was just some strange memory that id made up but its a real show :D
LordxTroll 3 years ago
Ulyses 31... I grew up loathing that show, only to discover my sister went and bought it on DVD the day it was released here.
gribae 3 years ago
haha i know what you mean, it's like a vague memory and sometimes you'll see stuff that reminds you of it. And that day when you finally find out what is was is fuckign great.
ctruman 3 years ago
there show be a cartoon archive, does anyone remember a show called Pirates of darkwater.
AXE2501 3 years ago
cartoon archives on the net, does any one remember the show pirates of dark water
AXE2501 3 years ago
Oh man; I never saw this episode!
rustyATV 4 years ago
Anybody know where i can find episode 12 and more? :(
Kennyboy0077 4 years ago
Upload newer ones !
Kennyboy0077 4 years ago
Most of the mechs are ugly looking, i personally like the TimberWolf the best
FearAcademy 4 years ago
can you please please plase upload the last three episodes? i love this series!
spotishere 4 years ago
Yeah !
Kennyboy0077 4 years ago
I'd love to see an updated version of this as long as they keep the music, cause I love it.
MauserK43 4 years ago
Yeah, I can't get enough of the opening theme either.
LordZast 4 years ago
Yeah,I searched Theme Song of BattleTech but couldnt find it :'(
Kennyboy0077 4 years ago
It is a Hatamoto-Chi.
Derivshx4 4 years ago
i also believe he is piloting a Hatamoto-chi
mark2mkt 4 years ago
there are 14 episodes i believe, would be real cool to see the last 3..
thesmurph 5 years ago
please upload the next episode!!! this series is so cool!!
blahman001 5 years ago
There was another episode after this. Adam goes to Sommerset and challanges Nikolai for possesion of the planet. Adam wins, but the clans take all the people from the planet with them when they withdraw, since Adam didnt say anything about who would own them in his challange.
SirCraigius 5 years ago
There was at least one more episode after this. Adam goes back to Somersett and challanges Nikolai to one on one combat for the rights of the planet. Adam wins, but he finds out the clans took all the Sommersett prisoners with them when they left, including Steiners brother (since Adam didnt mention possession of them in the "bid") I think it ends with Adam vowing to find his brother and rescue him.
SirCraigius 5 years ago
what mech is sackamoto driveing
shadow2777 5 years ago
I believe he is piloting a Hotomoto-Chi
dinnerbandit 5 years ago
are you sure its a Hotomoto-Chi?
shadow2777 5 years ago
its a HAtAmoto somthing though the hatamoto has the endings chi kaze and mizo but judging by the era its most likly a chi or kaze mizo was a newer model of the hatamoto put into production more in the late part and after the invasion
KenshiUchiha 4 years ago
yeah. Its an Hatamoto-Chi.. an 80 ton assault mech. 2 PPCs and SRM racks
Reason4Termination 4 years ago
According to the 1st Somerset Strikers sourcebook, it is indeed a the Chi model.
AkaneHatake 4 years ago
is thier more?
GrimReaper1202 5 years ago
this isn't everything?
ssjwraith1375 5 years ago
So hey when are you going to upload the rest of the series?
skrainbodak 5 years ago
so kool it bring back so many morryes.
KrozBonz 5 years ago
THIS TAKE FOREVER TO WATCH
Aceattack 6 years ago