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  • 9:36 Best of pals

  • Like WHY would you VOLUNTARILY go to that place!

  • @TheFrizzyfreak I'd go. I'd laugh my head off.

  • WHY WOULD YOU PUT YOURSELF THROUGH THAT!

  • it looks like a church outing with christian rock music in the background.

    this is americanised atheism. Atheism is not special, it doesnt need to be preached or put onto reality shows it is completely normal behaviour. This is like sending a nasty rapper hate-mail, or persuading your dealer to give up drugs - a waste of time, and hypocritical.

    dont preach the absence of something. don't preach at all! As far as I'm concerned, the stupider they are the quicker they'll die out.

  • HA!! At 5:10 the bald guy, " i dont go the science rout". You mean like when they fixed your hand lol!!

  • lol 5:12 It looks like that guy trusted Christ to make sure his hand didn't get hurt O.o

  • When we all die, we won't see God. It'll either be all blackness or a god that nobody ever knew about. So Christians, maybe you've been worshiping the wrong god all these years. It's just better to not believe in anything than to find out you've been worshiping the wrong dude. Hopefully this god isn't the jealous type Christians.

  • Wow.... That last comment was funny. I have to go to the "bull shit" museum tomorrow, so I figured I'd watch a video or two about it before I get drug in there...

  • I actually think this is wrong. Creationism shouldn't be tolerated, it should be ridiculed and rejected at every opportunity. I couldn't give a rats ass what people believe. Facts are facts, truth is truth and to spread such idiotic, misguided and misinformed lies is a crime.

  • The huge claws, talons, and teeth are just in case the plants try to make a fast get-away.

  • i grew up in a christian household, i never was a creationist, thanks to bbc prehistory series and fascination with prehistoric life, i knew better

  • It's shameful, Atheist or not, that people would come with such a disrespectful attitude towards other's beliefs. I think that is the main problem with Atheism... I've never met one who is respectful to someone who has any kind of faith.

  • @SuperDZproductions Mainly because faith by definition is: belief in things without evidence. Such idiocy doesn't deserve any "respect".

  • @AHundredButterflies Ah... so not only are you an Atheist, but by your statement you are also admittedly a fascist. Sorry, but I'm pretty sure Atheism does not include a complete lack of morality.

  • @SuperDZproductions If you can name one significant area of your life which needs you to approach it using "faith" I'm all ears. Such compromises to reasoning won't bode well for anyone which is why if you could name one thing (which you can't) I'll stop believing it...

  • @AHundredButterflies Is not faith the same as trust? I can name a million instances in life where you must put your trust in something or someone. Do you have children? Do you put your faith in the school system to educate them to a certain degree? Simple reasoning can logically dictate the fact that a degree of faith is a part of everyone's life. But that isn't even what I was originally saying. Respect others. Very simple creed.

  • @SuperDZproductions Trust by definition is: a firm belief in the demonstrable reliability of someone or something. So that debunks your argument about it being "the same" as faith and the validity of your hypothetical situation, I wouldn't have "faith". Once employed the school system has an obligation to be inclusive of all children and that includes education. Your intellectual shortcomings are nice correspondence as to why you are an ignorant theist. Now go pray to your imaginary friend.

  • @AHundredButterflies As usual. The angry and short tempered Atheist ends his rant with an ignorant quip and further makes himself and his chosen philosophy appear to be the product of nothing more than a product of an impatient and undisciplined mind. Your assumptions provide a good look into exactly how your mind reacts to intelligent process. Your statement on education was moot and completely off topic. No connection to what I said.

  • @AHundredButterflies -continued... Assuming I am a theist is hilarious and only provided you with what you craved the most... The opportunity for a quick little quip at the end of a sentence. The escape route that most uneducated Atheists need when backed into a corner and don't have the intellectual clout to actually -speak- their way out of conversation. Thanks for the entertainment. Someday I hope for a real discussion on this topic with someone who can actually read.

  • @SuperDZproductions I am amused as to how you falsely associate "a million" things to "faith" only for me to debunk your only example so far and if I quote correctly "Such compromises to reasoning won't bode well for anyone which is why if you could name one thing (which you can't) I'll stop believing it..." that is the nature of a rational mind. You shouldn't/cannot base anything on faith. I will get to that later but first I made the assumption you were a theist because of how you...

  • @SuperDZproductions pathetically claim to be able to associate "a million" things with "faith" that carry significant value. Only a theist with an I.Q consisting of a single digit would make such an assertion. Burden of proof is on you to back that claim with tangible evidence which so far has not been met. Now time to administer the coup de grace on this argument I haven't got all day. Previously I mentioned how you cannot base anything on faith well here is why...

  • @SuperDZproductions Because there is no apparent evidence for the existence of God you have to look at it in terms of probability.

    1 represents the number of ways in which theists claim the Universe came to be, that "God/s did it!".

    Infinity represents the number of incomprehensible and comprehensible ways in which the Universe came to be.

    1/Infinity = 0 for all practical purposes and as you may know 0 in terms of probability is an impossibility. I don't even study Mathematics yet I know this

    

  • @AHundredButterflies could have came to be*

  • @AHundredButterflies Who cares? Respect other people's beliefs. It's a common principal. Obviously only a fascist would support otherwise. That was my main point. You eluded that point and went on to a bunch of pointless rambling. Have fun with your life.

  • @SuperDZproductions It is not fascism if science has contradictory evidence to the popular belief, that is the difference between fact and opinion. Facts are indisputable. Why would I want to respect someone's faith that warrants monstrosities? Whilst the whole time parading as humility? Asserting that if you don't do the same you will doomed to an afterlife of eternal torment? On a side note, how do you expect me to argue if I don't reply?... and you have yet...

  • @SuperDZproductions to come up with any kind of example highlighting an area of people's lives that require faith. Little clue, there isn't.

  • @AHundredButterflies In your arrogance, you succeeded only in turning a statement about respecting others beliefs into an argument of Creationism vs. Atheism. Bravo for staying on topic. I applaud your attention span. You are fascist because in this country we are given the freedom to worship or believe as we please. If you actually believe (as you said you do) that people should be denied this right, then perhaps you should try voicing your opinions in another country.

  • @SuperDZproductions At what point did I get anywhere near insinuating that people be deprived of this right? What I did imply was that in no area of life, of civilization, is abandoning reasoning for faith a viable solution. Yet religion demands this compromise of logic and because there is not a scrap of evidence you look at it in terms of probability. Why? Because there is no logical pathway that suggests; because we have no grasp on the workings of a certain thing/s, this must be true...

  • @SuperDZproductions yet religion does this. So in the absence of evidence and a probability comprising of 0, an impossibility, when approached with a skeptical mind as you would anything religion falls apart. Yet your asking me to regard it with respect? Especially after taking into account the monstrosities it is accountable for, the worst of which in my opinion is the close-mindedness of generations and the oppression of free-thinking, and the hate it incites? I am sorry, but for me to grant..

  • @SuperDZproductions you any kind of respect is to give you a platform. On par with doing the same to known pedophiles to which no person with any kind of grasp on morality has no intention. Good day to you.

  • @AHundredButterflies Man... you do love to ramble on don't you? Perhaps you should donate your time to something more productive like spreading your fascist views on another video. I am finished with your lack of focus.

  • @SuperDZproductions Such pathetic rebuttals saturated in woeful ignorance. I'll tell you what I'll give you another shot at pulling your argument from beneath the rubble and presenting it to me. I can safely say, with no sense of egotism whatsoever, it's over for you.

  • @SuperDZproductions By the way, the use of ellipsis doesn't warrant the use of capital letters. Your illiterate use of punctuation only exemplifies what I said about your... intellectual shortcomings. I think that warrants a high-five. I did it again! UNBE-FUCKING-LIEVEABLE!

  • @AHundredButterflies Once again, more rambling. Nothing exemplified other than your continued need to rant. You missed the point completely. I won't reply anymore, but I highly doubt your insatiable need to have the last word will allow you to do the same. Goodnight.

  • Holy shit, is that timeline trying to claim that the world was created 6,000 years ago? It is complete idiocy if that is the case.

  • The girl at 7:40 looks beautiful, btw, What a shame

  • @PatrixCR She looked like Natalie Portman

  • Or maybe in time this will be a "Museum of Human gullibility"

  • I am enjoying every bit of this! I wish I went went them...looks lie a good ol time

  • Fortunatley..we have magnificent TRUE science museums! it's really just a matter of choice to be ignorant willfully I geuss..but what a farce! They spent the money to build it and that's their right, but they are making children ignorant and it's a shame.

  • I wonder how many kids they could have fed with the money that went into this museum. Hell, even spending that money on science books would have been better!

  • in the beginning there was Scuttlebutton by Stevie Ray Vaaauuuughn haha

  • At 6:45--IS THAT MEL BROOKS?

  • It's nice that they can be light-hearted about it, but in all reality, the existence of this place should be a crime. Yes I know, free-speech and so forth - but taking children to this "museum" as a form of their education (indoctrination) should be considered contributing to the delinquency of minors.

    It makes me seriously depressed, because I actually believe in the potential of humanity, and shit like this is like a ball and chain making forward momentum exceedingly difficult.

  • Let them make fools of themselves for future generations to laugh about.

  • I wish I was there

  • This is absolute shit and it's disappointing that people believe it. What else is so insulting is that the "museum" people discredit and put down brilliant scientists and paleontologists who discovered dinosaurs decades before technology. They say that they were atheists therefore they shouldnt be acknowledged, but Creationists back then were scrutinized by scientists bc they were Christians and told the truth. Uh no, they were criticized bc they were idiots and preaching this bullshit!

  • obviously its in kentucky (shake head)

  • I hope they snuk in without paying.

  • I don't understand at ALL the comparison between Descartes's "I think therefor I am" and God's "I am that I am". The former was Descartes's conclusion that he could be absolutely certain that he was thinking, and latter was God stating that he was uncased. The two have nothing to do with one another and aren't alike in any way.

  • @standinstann Sounds like the creationists are saying 1) "Don't think for yourself, just accept this" and 2) "Quit being so self-centered". I remember the commercials in the 70s that ended with "A mind is a terrible thing to waste", and this museum is the disposal unit.

  • @toAdmiller I am just so sick of these people quoting great philosophers without knowing anything about what they were saying. They seem to think that people like Renee Descartes and Thomas Aquinas were just spitting out catch phrases. Renee Descartes and Thomas Aquinas were some of the most brilliant minds in human history and they deserve better than to be a blurb in there little dogma diagram.

  • @standinstann Agreed.

  • Loving the Stevie Ray Vaughan

  • Of course Science will prevail over religious thought in the long run.

  • @mbagouty69 Why is it either/or?

  • WOw sorry to say but it is hardcore how retarded that old guy is. It's a shame.

    Sincerely from Hungary

  • wait a minute the creation museum get grants from the gvernment thats unconstitutional seperation of church and state

  • creation museum : where education has a completely different meaning

  • @7:45 Natalie Portman look-alike. Brains and beauty, I think I'm in love :')

  •  Its a CHURCH,not a museum!

  • Surely the title is wrong. "Skeptic" implies that Creationism is somehow the accepted view, which is crazy - it isn't. Why bother to even debate....Would you try a reasoned debate with somebody who said the Earth was flat? Ideas like this do not deserve respect or consideration or discussion - it just gives them credibilty they don't deserve.

  • @novadrian That's true in the scientific community. But here in America, in the common community, to be a "skeptic" is a minority and to be a creationist puts one amongst around 40% of the population and being a christian about 80%. The sad truth is most people are stupid.

  • 4.26. "How do you know the bible is true? " How do you know evolution is true? ...

    Its called evidence..........Evolution has literally mountains of evidence.....The Bible can hardly stand up to basic scrutiny...

  • @philster611 Yes, science is actually based up from multiple independent sources of evidence which when researched all point to the same picture of what happened.

    There is no reason to rely on only one piece of evidence so that any errors in method or equipment can be picked up on.

    <3 science.

  • they kicked me out for laughing at the exibit at 2:25

  • I can only imagine the cloak of stupidity as a Human approaches this dehumanizing house of lies, death, oppression and misinformation. It is a pillar of subhumanity.

  • Was August E. Brunsman going through puberty before our very eyes?

  • Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.

    A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.

    Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.

  • i like how most of the people there go for the lulz

  • They should change the name to the Flintstones Museum

  • @metaldave08096 Yabbadabbadoo!!!

  • @metaldave08096 Yes.

  • Every time I see the Creation Museum, I am always astounded at how much time, work and MONEY, was put into propagating such idiocy.

  • @sebc2s it is not idiocy. it is the Truth! you want idiocy go talk to stephen hawkings or go to a science museum that promotes evolution and bilions of years thats idiocy. its ignorance.

  • @sebc2s well it is a business

  • whats that awesome song?! :D great vid otherwise

  • And listen to the "strained confusion" where they are working overtime to misunderstand. If these people are trying to convince anyone of anything, they are convincing me they cannot even get a story straight before they cross-examine it. Wow.

  • Do these people realize that Isaac Newton, James Clerk Maxwell, Blaise Pascal, Galileo, Michael Faraday, Louis Pasteur and many other founding fathers of science were EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS? These people have the most absurd notion of what evangelicals believe that they haven't a clue as to what they are criticizing. Never mind that scientists from Montana State found heme in red cells from Suzy the T-Rex. They aren't going to change their belief system just because some evidence came along.

  • @357MagnumBob "Do these people realize that Isaac Newton, James Clerk Maxwell, Blaise Pascal, Galileo, Michael Faraday, Louis Pasteur and many other founding fathers of science were EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS? "

    Actually Galileo was imprisoned by the Catholic Church( he was NOT an evangelical Christian) because he knew that the sun was the center of our galaxy. so he had already challenged the religious authority. Galileo is regarded as the father of modern science BTW...

  • @philster611~ U clearly dont know the history of the Catholic church!

    The Catholic church killed Christians for being Christians!!!

  • @357MagnumBob isaac newton also believed in alchemy.

  • loved the ending in the first part.

  • It takes a rational mind to be an atheist.

    Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.

    Laurence J. Peter

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  • if adam named every species, why do we discover thousands every year?

  • These Atheists are even lamer than the museum itselt. I hate how they put tons of buttons on their clothing to make it clear to everyone "duurrrrr I'm an Atheist alright!"

  • I can't help wondering why people announce that they are an athiest as though it was somekind of achievement. Its just another belief. It doesn't take any effort at all. On that note, is creationism really Christian? Jesus never mentioned it once. Not ever. At least not in the Bible. Mocking people's faith, oh what fun, lol.

  • @DarthTroller ummmmmm atheism=belief? facepalm

  • @uknowispeaksense yes thats what I said! The belief that God does not exist, so there Mr Facepalm. Wow you guys are a bunch of pretentious psuedo intellectual nitwits. Putting everyone down, for everything, will not replace your self esteem, or the lunch money that the bigger kids took from you while you were in school.

  • @DarthTroller I know its just a few words but atheism is by definition a non-belief. There is a difference and it is important because "belief" suggests faith. Its funny that you, a theist, thinks I have a self esteem problem. I don't need to invent an imaginary overseer to guide my insecure little mind. Oh, I also made my own lunch. Even from a very young age I was in control of my own destiny.

  • @uknowispeaksense Atheism is by definition the belief that there is no God. The denial of God is a belief! I could be wrong about your self esteem, though its been my observation that most pseudo intellectuals who have to mock others to feel good about themselves, usually are compensating for low self esteem. You think I'm a theist? Oh how presumptuous you are, lol! So sad that you will never know the joys of objective thinking, lol!

  • @DarthTroller " The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever.

    Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies belief.

    Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons. "

  • @DarthTroller No, I figured you for a troll before I noticed your moniker and I know figured you probably weren't a theist. You're nowhere near rampant enough and you type very succinctly. I don't consider myself a pseudo intellectual but just someone who is passionate about stamping out scientific illiteracy. I know the raving creationists are hard nuts to crack but I've got to start somewhere. Nice chatting with you. Take it easy.

  • @DarthTroller How is it possible to have a belief in Atheisim?

  • @wowamonn Simple!  It is the belief that there is no God. How is it possible that you did not already know that?

  • @DarthTroller To deny the existance for a god is based on a lack of evidence for such beings. Therfore how ca it be a belief in the religous use of the term?

  • I wonder if they have shirts that say "now's your chance to dry hump a mormon." Or for Muslims: "Cop a feel (my husband's not looking)"

  • Its not even funny how many facepalm moments are in this video.

  • Only in America!

    ...and probably in Somalia...

    and Saudi Arabia...

    and Iran..

    and Rwanda

    and...

    well, you know what I mean.

  • I hope it`s the only museum in the world!

  • 9:02 "All of the dinosaurs were vegetarians." That's right folks, those huge teeth and razor-sharp claws were for nibbling on leaves and berries.

  • the atheists will prove that everything in the museum came from a soup.

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  • There is no spoon :D

  • Recovering Catholic....more like recovering crack head

  • @Drebln893

    Well, if you ant to understand and agree with religion, it probably helps to be whacked out of your skull most of the time...

  • @jerico641 ....Yeah, guess those that study courses in philosophy and religion are wackos huh!!!?... #bequietnoob

  • @Drebln893

    Nope; attempting to understand religion in terms of world sociology and history, and/or studying it from an objective approach is fine, even interesting. It's when you start to believe in it that you might as well start hitting the pipe...bitemyass

  • 2:22 ah yes,humans and dinosaurs.Remember that time in the bible,where jesus enters the city on top of a t-rex? and then he unleashed him on the pharisees,because they thought dinosaurs did not exist at that time,and then an apostle of jesus ,i think it was Tomas, said "HOLY SHIT.A dinosaur from the triassic period"

    

  • Recovering Catholic.... I love it. Good video.

  • we can prove nothing...discard your believes...

  • Interesting and amusing

  • I agree with what the atheists are doing here, but what a piss poor representation - a bunch of pierced, tattooed, ill spoken degenerates. There are much better people to have doing this imo.

  • Makes me sad for this country. We're so far behind in intellect it's just embarrassing. Seeing these brainwashed, sad people shuffle along and soak up this unscientific dreck is depressing.

  • Accept Jesus into your life and you will believe lies!

  • No.... God does not regret His actions. He regrets mans poor choices.

  • @rmaynard626 If God regrets man's poor choices, then it must logically follow that He regrets the design of man that enabled man to make such poor choices. Since He is the designer, He, Himself regrets his own creation... kind of a weak God eh?

  • @Radetzky19 Would your parents regret having you as their child, based upon poor choices that you may have made? You don't disassociate from someone you truly love, based upon poor decision making. Stop thinking like a borg, and think it terms of HUMAN BEINGS in a loving parental relationship.

  • @rmaynard626 You automatically assume that no parent regrets having children. It is a logical fallacy. Unfortunately there are some cases in which that occurs even though you may find it ideal that instances of that do not happen at all. It is also besides the point. I'm not acting like a borg, I'm using logic that you seem not to like but too bad that's reality.

  • @Radetzky19 You are referring to multiple instances where that could be the case. I'm asking you (a singular instance) would your parents regret having you? As a parent, the answer is NO, because the love that you have for your child greatly outweighs anything that child could say or do. Its not that I don't recognize logic, I just don't see it in this instance.

  • @rmaynard626 You are missing the point. Your analogy is fallacious because you are using that parent analogy to reflect your God's "love" or whatever you are trying to prove. It's not the same, esp when your God has attributes such as omnipotence and "omni-benevolence". If you say your God regrets the poor choices men make (another question arises what is considered "poor" cause there is no objective of morality), then he himself is also at fault..thats how logic works.

  • @rmaynard626 I know you are trying to counter me saying that God regrets HOW He designed his own creation, is like saying my parents regret having me. This is not a proper analogy. First of all my parents can only fornicate me. Your god, however, "designs" each and every one of us so more of our capabilities are in "His control". You still automatically assume all parents are all loving of their children which is not the case.

  • @rmaynard626 3) LOL you cannot ask me of a "singular instance" of my parents regretting for having me when you come up with an answer of NO due to ASSUMING that everyone's "thoughts of how they view their children as a parent" are the same as yours. FALLACY. You failed at asking the correct question. Anyway, parents are mortal human beings only capable of fornicating offspring and have no say in how the baby is predestined by your God. However, you God knowing the future and being

  • @rmaynard626 4) all powerful ceases to change anything even though he knows the exact "poor choices" a certain human is going to make even though he is all powerful and supposedly all good. It does not make sense. With those characteristics attributed to such a being, it logically follows that he must regret how designs everyone in certain ways since he is the "grand designer" and can choose to not regret anything and make sure a being does not make those "poor choices".

  • @Radetzky19 Again, you're trying to rationalize God's decision, which are based in love. Love does necessarily take a logical approach, because a major component to love is free will from both sides.

  • @rmaynard626 Yes it is important to rationalize another person's actions. that's the way of the world. so why aren't you? You try to make it about love but I just proved the opposite. At this point, you writing only a few sentences after me breaking down to you the problem in 5 paragraphs is very menial and ignorant on your part. You have yet to give me something that you are trying to argue for.

  • @rmaynard626 2) an omnipotent and all loving God would not regret a man's "poor decisions". 1) because He is all powerful he can easily never make Himself regret (esp since he is supposed to never make mistakes). 2) if he is all loving he would not dare jeopardize the possibility of a man making poor decisions, for it is a reflection on He as the creator as well as He being the "caretaker" of man. If your God regrets, then He made a mistake CASE CLOSED

  • Stop even trying to argue with the creationists. It's like arguing with a dead dog. You're not going to change their minds. :P

  • A commentary on an other video made me think about this, people leading this museum are merchants. They are merchants of religion. They're are the same kind of merchants that their own god, Jesus, kicked away from the temple.

    Paradox ?

  • What makes me sad is that creationnists have done it. They made talk about themselves, about their ideas, they built a pseudo-museum and have reached their goal : make money. Not even Christians come into this museum but also atheists and agnostics. And the more we'll talk about them, the more publicity they'll have and the more money they'll earn.

    I vomit their "religion", for good.

  • What the hell is that place!? It looks more like a "Flintstones" theme park than a museum!

  • Personally I feel weird when people say they were X years religious. Like membership duration actually mattered. Quantity not quality. It is hard to stop myself from asking questions like. Did you talk to theologians before you made your decision? -Often not- and so, how "believing" were you, if you just slipped through the cracks without even addressing the questions past a theologian? I wonder how they lived their lives as "christians" often i ask. Where you involved in charity work+giving?

  • Regret in genesis:

    1 God was grieved, and some translations do use that word.

    2 God was not grieved because of himself but because of humans.

    3 someone can mention that their relative passed away and you say "I'm Sorry

    ".. Why are you sorry? Are you the one who killed that person?----- Exactly the point.

  • "how do you know the bible is true" is like saying "how do you know your birth certificate is true". The issue of "True or False" Is not easily tossed on to a document. As if a typographical error on your birth certificate automatically proves everything else is false (or w/e).

    Also, the bible is a library of multiple books. Does anyone actually go to a library and as " how do you know if this library is true". as you can see- it does not even work right if you ask it that way.

  • Are all atheists spoiled college aged brats with an axe to grind?

  • They have museums in America filled with this mess? So glad I live in England where nobody cares enough about stupid myths to even take it seriously.

  • @boosie007666 i live in america and ive never seen one untill now...

  • Is there an animatronic human snorting coke off a dinosaur's ass?

  • God said "I am that I am"? I thought popeye said that. lol

  • the athiest are funny, the creationists won, their whole point is and always was, was to get their money lol.

  • When you have the childish explanation of "god did it" you don't need evidence or reality. And clearly, "god did it" is the ONLY explanation that the creation "museum" needs.

  • u dont need to be that much intelligent to go inside that museum and get out laughing

  • anyone else notice that only religious groups use terms like 'opposition' to describe atheists?

  • What an absolute monument to ignorance this museum is! I'm ashamed to live in this country because of this.

  • @Lennon4ever1

    Some of my wife's relatives from Kentucky are visiting us this week. They live relatively close to this place, and while they are pretty blue-collar individuals, they're not particularly religious. So far I haven't asked them about the place or if they've ever been there (they have daughters and grand kids), but I'm dying to.

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    Flintstones, meet the Flintstones...