This video is an embarrassment to the transman community in my opinionportraying them as freak/ weirdo lesbians. Its disgusting, as so-called FTM myself [I prefer the simplified MALE only no female about it]I do not like being associated with people like this.
ok I don't know nothing about this material.. but a female that become male... in the..I don't know how ask, so.. is alike a real male? I mean for sexual relation.. for genital.. how is possible??
faith81it, it's okay to be curious... but it's difficult to explain everything over youtube. You should really try googling everything regarding FTM surgeries. We call it "Bottom Surgery", there are more than 1 options for bottom surg. and Top Surgery is the term for the chest surg. Also more than 1 option for the top surg, too.
This film is fretty shi*t tbh, I think there should be more videos about ftm and trans issues but this is just so biased! Maybe it's just because it's dated but it makes ftm's look like freaks and weirdos. Not loving it...
It's so pleasant people finding their true biological sex. Whether we are talking about intersexxuality or transsexuality, we are talking about the biological sex. People don't confuse this with orientation. And with the social sex, commonly known now as the gender. Men are born wearing black clothes; kids learn that black is a man's color. In america 1920 pink was considered man color! Biological and social rules are two different things. I myself am a born male. I'm homosexual. And I am happy
that the trans minority - female to male - is recognized and makes some really beautiful men! if anyone of you is homosexual, let me know! PS Nowadays not only hormones but also surgeric tactics guarantee completely change of sex. Trans men can have dick, and trans women can have vagina. And the technics keep improving. Trans boys and girls, we love you and we stand for you. :)
I am glad that the vid did state that it was from 1996. The views and statements made were accurate for most for that time. Though I was I belive in Jr. High at the time, I knew that being a man was who I was. Not just some lesbian. I didn't even know what that was until my mom told me Melissa Etheridge was one.(I adore her as an artist and person!)
Education is key to understanding. Haveing an open mind helps a great deal as well. To my trans bro's and sis's, stay strong and live,love.<3
whatever...you're all sick too, and making excuses. and by the way, i'm only using my right of free speech, turds....i did't attack any of you when you commented on this shit...so back the fuck off.
swearing and carry on like you did in this comment just shows total lack of maturity and the inability for you to participate in a mature intelligent converstation.
All so-called trannies are just people with severe mental health issues and they dont even know that they are ill, they instead make excuses or try to justify what they're doing, even though it's wrong.
The human race is doomed for extinction because of people like them.
What abt people who are disrespectful & think they are so perfect?Ppl wif discrimination issues are the really sick ones coz in the world,no matter wat or who they are,are still part of the human race.
Ill? Haha. Yeah, you can talk about mental health. I'm a psychology major and I know for a FACT that transsexuals aren't "mentally ill." Psychologists honestly don't find anything wrong with it. They actually help transsexuals with hormones and surgery. Educate yourself or shut up. The human race is doomed if more people like you are born. Educate yourself or crawl under the earth.
I'd publicly humiliate you further, but it looks like you're already getting it pretty hard from trained pros, so I'll just sit this one out. ;) I agree fully with TheGodMar, though. You're too obviously dense to really even cause me to put the effort forth, anyhow.
why does it say "the girls who take testosterone are known as Daddy Boys" -- not all who take T are known as Daddy Boys, or Daddies or Boys/Bois. (Unless this is a regionally and historically specific reference, the generalization is inaccurate.)
Defnitely fetishizing. Not respectful w the pronoun misuse. Altho, in a way attempts to show the range of people from dykes to drag kings to ftm's, of sexualities, and of ppl presenting their gender(s) differently than their originally-prescribed sex for different reasons. Thx to Del LaGrace now Volcano and Loren Cameron and FTMs who educate & inform us.
This video is SO offensive for so many reasons. It portrays ftms as if they're all dykes or something. As a gay ftm that does NOT identify as female at ALL I think this video is outdated and crap. The wrong pronouns are used constantly and... ugh. Awful.
Good G-d, Loren Cameron sounds like a damned Smurf. But I do have to say that this is one of the very few videos with more than a couple FtMs who DON'T have Smurftastic voice resonance.
Wow, you're mature. He just happens to have a high voice. Some guys do. I don't see why you'd have a problem unless you're an eight year old. Grow up.
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Some day, you even gona have an entire zoo next door (remember the tiger man?).I pray the universe will be destroyed by the Highest Authority before that day comes and humiliate or put the human race into extinction. Bet i hit a lot of nerve here. I wouldnt be surprised tho. Pls double check yr fact b4 shooting yr load off everywhere coz you're in the business of telling the whole world how God (yr god obviously, not mine, my God aint stupid) made mistakes in His creation.
It's interesting as a historical piece, funny to see how even people trying to educate the world about transgenderism got their facts wrong ... I winced every time I heard a she; it's hard to believe they didn't do Loren and others the simple courtesy of the correct pronouns. The only thing that really bothers me, though, is that parents or friends of transpeople looking for information may stumble upon this - it's a decade old by now!
So Why am I ignorant maybe I have transgenered friends I'm also a gay man and work at a gay bar and work around 6 drag queens all weekend 2 of the 6 are transgendered how they makes me ignorant I do not know Im an open minded indivdual actually even though I would never consider having my penis cut off doesnt mean that I think people shouldnt have the right too do whatever they'd like with they're bodies...
This video is out of date and full of not quite accurate information (and bad pronoun use). I think, as a whole, it does a disservice to ftms. I really wish it didn't show up as second on a search for ftm by "relevance"--relevance, what a joke!
have u ever once thought that maybe he didnt feel comfortable being with men when he was female, geez. just like alot of people confuse gender and sexuality, they are two seperate things..a trans person can be gay, str8 or bi..poeple need to educate dthem selves better instead of saying dumb shit like that.
Yeah, nice to see a few familiar faces on here! :-) Agree with other posters that the narrator got their facts mixed up, and to conflate FTM people/drag kings/lesbians is REALLY bad. :-(
The pirate story threw me too. I'm not familiar with particulars of F2Pirate transitioning. It seems to have been included as a way to emphasize the bizarre and trivialize the other stories.
Please remember this was 1996 before most people had access to the internet. (Google wasn't established until 1998) Much of the initial exploration with T use was underground and experiences passed on by word of mouth. Trans terminology had not yet been codified.
I found the quality of the video detracting from the audio. The information was soemwhat useful, but it seemed confused. Maybe because I was confused by all the blocking out of people. Could you get people whose consent you have and try one that is easier to see?
Well,abt the pirate,i was quite confused at first but when i think again,he's dressing up dat way to suit the traits of a pirate,long hair,beard & all.So,he looks kinda andro.
yeah, the pirate seems odd. but even odder is the fact that they refer to the trans guys as "she" and then compare them to drag kings. they're completely polar opposites by their very nature. so very interesting to see people like loren cameron, but then to see him next to the pirate drag king, i think it defeats the purpose.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for uploading this! For a minute there, I thought I was going to have to make a piddly WVM photo-slideshow of FtM's if I wanted to see them on Youtube. Even though it's occasionally grainy, I love it. But is anyone else thrown by the pirate woman?
thank you for uploading this video. though it is indeed grainy it is none the less a clip more people could stand to see. Thanks again, and I will be linking to it from my site leathermenace.com
At 01:32 "The wonderdrug that causes the changes and lets boys live as girls is called testosterone". Is it just me or is there something a bit wrong with that statment. *G*
worst...quality.....ever
BabyGirlGoddess 1 year ago
LOL @ 1:36 "One of the drugs that causes the changes and lets boys live as girls is called testosterone"... Fail.
mynamekeisha 1 year ago
This doc is really bad
boxergirl84 1 year ago
This video is an embarrassment to the transman community in my opinionportraying them as freak/ weirdo lesbians. Its disgusting, as so-called FTM myself [I prefer the simplified MALE only no female about it]I do not like being associated with people like this.
Rant over lol.
[Loren has a nice upper body though] =)
19AdRiAnMaC88 2 years ago 3
Different strokes for different folks. :)
Makyui 2 years ago
Why is this such bad quality? :(
It's hard to find High Quality FtM videos!!
Do any of you know where higher quality FTM videos can be watched/streamed/ or even downloaded??
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niggitynignig 3 years ago 2
ok I don't know nothing about this material.. but a female that become male... in the..I don't know how ask, so.. is alike a real male? I mean for sexual relation.. for genital.. how is possible??
faith81it 3 years ago
faith81it, it's okay to be curious... but it's difficult to explain everything over youtube. You should really try googling everything regarding FTM surgeries. We call it "Bottom Surgery", there are more than 1 options for bottom surg. and Top Surgery is the term for the chest surg. Also more than 1 option for the top surg, too.
goremode 3 years ago
This film is fretty shi*t tbh, I think there should be more videos about ftm and trans issues but this is just so biased! Maybe it's just because it's dated but it makes ftm's look like freaks and weirdos. Not loving it...
jseeka 3 years ago 3
I m so happy to see more trans videos online!When i posted dis vid up,I can hardly find any FTM video!
AxlKane 3 years ago 4
very nice masculine body at the beginning of the video. damn im jealous! wish i had mine like this.
dreads2003 3 years ago
Yea..he's a famous photographer!
AxlKane 3 years ago
Very interesting.
Xandrad 3 years ago
It's so pleasant people finding their true biological sex. Whether we are talking about intersexxuality or transsexuality, we are talking about the biological sex. People don't confuse this with orientation. And with the social sex, commonly known now as the gender. Men are born wearing black clothes; kids learn that black is a man's color. In america 1920 pink was considered man color! Biological and social rules are two different things. I myself am a born male. I'm homosexual. And I am happy
lesgaybitrans 3 years ago
that the trans minority - female to male - is recognized and makes some really beautiful men! if anyone of you is homosexual, let me know! PS Nowadays not only hormones but also surgeric tactics guarantee completely change of sex. Trans men can have dick, and trans women can have vagina. And the technics keep improving. Trans boys and girls, we love you and we stand for you. :)
lesgaybitrans 3 years ago 4
I am glad that the vid did state that it was from 1996. The views and statements made were accurate for most for that time. Though I was I belive in Jr. High at the time, I knew that being a man was who I was. Not just some lesbian. I didn't even know what that was until my mom told me Melissa Etheridge was one.(I adore her as an artist and person!)
Education is key to understanding. Haveing an open mind helps a great deal as well. To my trans bro's and sis's, stay strong and live,love.<3
VanitysAngel 3 years ago
Why are the wrong pronouns used the whole time? This is horrible.
Weird how a video that's supposed to be educating people about trans issues turns out to be extremely transphobic.
alimaemia 3 years ago
i agree
trannykingtuck 3 years ago
wow I would never guess he used to be female. his voice could be a bit deeper though.
TiberiusStorm 3 years ago
GREAT VID
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whatever...you're all sick too, and making excuses. and by the way, i'm only using my right of free speech, turds....i did't attack any of you when you commented on this shit...so back the fuck off.
billfund 4 years ago
swearing and carry on like you did in this comment just shows total lack of maturity and the inability for you to participate in a mature intelligent converstation.
jessnhailey2004 4 years ago 4
rock on ftm's!!! lol
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All so-called trannies are just people with severe mental health issues and they dont even know that they are ill, they instead make excuses or try to justify what they're doing, even though it's wrong.
The human race is doomed for extinction because of people like them.
billfund 4 years ago
What abt people who are disrespectful & think they are so perfect?Ppl wif discrimination issues are the really sick ones coz in the world,no matter wat or who they are,are still part of the human race.
AxlKane 4 years ago
How do you know it's wrong? Gender binarism and enforced gender and discrimination is harmful and wrong.
ClayfulBoi 4 years ago 3
Ill? Haha. Yeah, you can talk about mental health. I'm a psychology major and I know for a FACT that transsexuals aren't "mentally ill." Psychologists honestly don't find anything wrong with it. They actually help transsexuals with hormones and surgery. Educate yourself or shut up. The human race is doomed if more people like you are born. Educate yourself or crawl under the earth.
TheGodMar 4 years ago 8
I'd publicly humiliate you further, but it looks like you're already getting it pretty hard from trained pros, so I'll just sit this one out. ;) I agree fully with TheGodMar, though. You're too obviously dense to really even cause me to put the effort forth, anyhow.
AbsolvedOne 4 years ago
Dude you are really showing everyone by your statement that you have not researched anything on this subject and are not open to learning.
Ignorance is the downfall of civilization not trans people.
badone112002 4 years ago 2
aaaaaaaagggg, i can't stand it how they're still calling the guys as "she"!! ok that it's made in 1996 but hey... pffff
ArWx 4 years ago
why does it say "the girls who take testosterone are known as Daddy Boys" -- not all who take T are known as Daddy Boys, or Daddies or Boys/Bois. (Unless this is a regionally and historically specific reference, the generalization is inaccurate.)
ClayfulBoi 4 years ago
It was a specific reference. I can see why the confusion. But it's definitely a reference to that specific lifestyle.
punkwendyhouse 4 years ago
Yeah. The video should've had the script reference the lifestyle.
ClayfulBoi 4 years ago
Defnitely fetishizing. Not respectful w the pronoun misuse. Altho, in a way attempts to show the range of people from dykes to drag kings to ftm's, of sexualities, and of ppl presenting their gender(s) differently than their originally-prescribed sex for different reasons. Thx to Del LaGrace now Volcano and Loren Cameron and FTMs who educate & inform us.
ClayfulBoi 4 years ago
This video is SO offensive for so many reasons. It portrays ftms as if they're all dykes or something. As a gay ftm that does NOT identify as female at ALL I think this video is outdated and crap. The wrong pronouns are used constantly and... ugh. Awful.
And wtf, pirate?
wombatboi 4 years ago
i totally agree
oceanbruce1980 3 years ago
i wish the vid. was less grainey
bluecello77 4 years ago
Love you guys!!
TattooedLesbianNYC 4 years ago
i wouldnt do it. but to each his/ or her own
Tonym5119 4 years ago
Good G-d, Loren Cameron sounds like a damned Smurf. But I do have to say that this is one of the very few videos with more than a couple FtMs who DON'T have Smurftastic voice resonance.
harvestmoondog 4 years ago
Wow, you're mature. He just happens to have a high voice. Some guys do. I don't see why you'd have a problem unless you're an eight year old. Grow up.
TheGodMar 4 years ago 2
i cant believe she has a dick now....amazing...
sakamoko99 4 years ago
He. Call the person as the gender they identify with.
TheGodMar 4 years ago 10
The world ain't perfect pal.God made reasonable amount of perfect & imperfections.If the world is too perfect,something is wrong.Ironically.
AxlKane 4 years ago
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Some day, you even gona have an entire zoo next door (remember the tiger man?).I pray the universe will be destroyed by the Highest Authority before that day comes and humiliate or put the human race into extinction. Bet i hit a lot of nerve here. I wouldnt be surprised tho. Pls double check yr fact b4 shooting yr load off everywhere coz you're in the business of telling the whole world how God (yr god obviously, not mine, my God aint stupid) made mistakes in His creation.
enzoslr 4 years ago
God would know to spell "your" and "before" and "because".
thegreatchicagonose 4 years ago
although i'm into women, i must say he has a gorgeous body....
LittleBoiFen 4 years ago
...the saddest part of that entire thing was how the american chic lost her accent... a bit of madonna syndrome, yeah?
but i like queer peeps... lots and lots
QuietOnTheSetPlz 4 years ago
It's interesting as a historical piece, funny to see how even people trying to educate the world about transgenderism got their facts wrong ... I winced every time I heard a she; it's hard to believe they didn't do Loren and others the simple courtesy of the correct pronouns. The only thing that really bothers me, though, is that parents or friends of transpeople looking for information may stumble upon this - it's a decade old by now!
usodekatameru 4 years ago
So Why am I ignorant maybe I have transgenered friends I'm also a gay man and work at a gay bar and work around 6 drag queens all weekend 2 of the 6 are transgendered how they makes me ignorant I do not know Im an open minded indivdual actually even though I would never consider having my penis cut off doesnt mean that I think people shouldnt have the right too do whatever they'd like with they're bodies...
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eagleb0y 4 years ago
This video is out of date and full of not quite accurate information (and bad pronoun use). I think, as a whole, it does a disservice to ftms. I really wish it didn't show up as second on a search for ftm by "relevance"--relevance, what a joke!
-gay transmen = not that hard to figure out.
-ftpirate = not an ftm.
thegreatchicagonose 4 years ago
-"ftpirate", that is hilarious. a funny way to put it, but to each his/her own as long as no one is harmed.
ClayfulBoi 4 years ago
wow so!! a female to male sex change and then becoming a man liking other men wow! well do what makes your weiner tickle lol
abercrombie4me03 4 years ago
man you are ignorant is all i have to say! LoL
have u ever once thought that maybe he didnt feel comfortable being with men when he was female, geez. just like alot of people confuse gender and sexuality, they are two seperate things..a trans person can be gay, str8 or bi..poeple need to educate dthem selves better instead of saying dumb shit like that.
herbalspl 4 years ago
I think this video is a little confused in its aims...
shiromori 4 years ago
Yeah, nice to see a few familiar faces on here! :-) Agree with other posters that the narrator got their facts mixed up, and to conflate FTM people/drag kings/lesbians is REALLY bad. :-(
frankiefelix 5 years ago
The pirate story threw me too. I'm not familiar with particulars of F2Pirate transitioning. It seems to have been included as a way to emphasize the bizarre and trivialize the other stories.
boiN2femmes 5 years ago
Please remember this was 1996 before most people had access to the internet. (Google wasn't established until 1998) Much of the initial exploration with T use was underground and experiences passed on by word of mouth. Trans terminology had not yet been codified.
boiN2femmes 5 years ago
I found the quality of the video detracting from the audio. The information was soemwhat useful, but it seemed confused. Maybe because I was confused by all the blocking out of people. Could you get people whose consent you have and try one that is easier to see?
mycatlilly 5 years ago
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AxlKane 5 years ago
Well,abt the pirate,i was quite confused at first but when i think again,he's dressing up dat way to suit the traits of a pirate,long hair,beard & all.So,he looks kinda andro.
AxlKane 5 years ago
yeah, the pirate seems odd. but even odder is the fact that they refer to the trans guys as "she" and then compare them to drag kings. they're completely polar opposites by their very nature. so very interesting to see people like loren cameron, but then to see him next to the pirate drag king, i think it defeats the purpose.
xandereliot 5 years ago
Thank you, thank you, thank you for uploading this! For a minute there, I thought I was going to have to make a piddly WVM photo-slideshow of FtM's if I wanted to see them on Youtube. Even though it's occasionally grainy, I love it. But is anyone else thrown by the pirate woman?
cand86 5 years ago
thank you for uploading this video. though it is indeed grainy it is none the less a clip more people could stand to see. Thanks again, and I will be linking to it from my site leathermenace.com
leathermenace 5 years ago
This is interesting but very grainy. It also contains some inaccuracies. Interesting for its time, though.
thegreatchicagonose 5 years ago
Just curious- what were the inaccuracies that you saw?
cand86 5 years ago
At 01:32 "The wonderdrug that causes the changes and lets boys live as girls is called testosterone". Is it just me or is there something a bit wrong with that statment. *G*
steelgrass 5 years ago 2
At 01:32 "The wonderdrug that causes the changes and lets boys live as girls is called testosterone".
steelgrass 5 years ago