Really hate these new flat screen TV's sound wise.
The picture on most is amazing with the 1080p high definition and that you don't need to have magnetically shielded speakers. But on the other hand the sound is awful, because when you get to below the 28 inch TV's the sound is just so tinny. Which means I'm now having to use all my equipment for sound from the TV and needing to build speakers for my grandparents as even when tweaking with the EQ the sound is just to muffled and ear piercing
@JuSTSound4 Can't fault the pic on some of these.But the trouble is the casing's now SO small there's no depth for decent speakers.Shame really when you have the equalizer feature on so many.At least they could provide extension speaker sockets on the sets perhaps so you could use better speakers,but nope!
@chairuser4 l'm afraid l've had a couple of falls recently which have knocked me about a bit,l've had spine problems for some years now so this is nothing new :-( But do hope to do more soon.
just the tuner got damaged? really lucky. 90% of the time the panel is cracked on LCD TVs which fell down
you can usually take the metal covers off of the tuner module, making it easier to solder a connector back on (or a piece of coax wire for that matter). Or just replace the whole tuner (silver can) if you can find one.. search for the model printed on the tuner module on ebay or something..
@Knaeckebrotsaege Luckily yes,but the tuner module is really slim and soldered to the circuitboard.No chance of soldering another connector on that l'm afraid without completely unsoldering the whole thing.
@markcumbriauk Crikey! You take it steady up there.Mind you my neighbour had a stroke some years ago,but is now so recovered you can hardly tell.Hope it'll be the same for you too.
i live in greenwich southeast london and fireworks was banned from local sweet shops and so there wasnt one bit of noise !! no kids stupidly letting them off in phone boxes and such !! the only fireworks i saw was from blackheath common run by the council !!!!lol for once all was peaceful !!!!!!lol
@stuartellis2006 Sounds like you had a nice,quiet,well-organised bonfire night.People are quick to criticise the councils but from time to time they really do do someting for the good LOL.Perhaps we ought to let some off inside the kids/chavs and see how far they go up in the air for a change.
good news river dvds in america land are on there last set of plugs. long live vhs and beta!!!!! and i have to say what a lovely tv you have there a little fall and it breaks up completely. speakers from earphones and a dvd player that if you have butter fingers stores dvds for you aswell. my god some things are awful. god bless the days when things were made properly. Neil.
@EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME Yes,this thing was truly dire.Never a dustcart passing when you need one l fear.As you rightly say,god bless the days when things were made properly. River.
@triangman1992 You can't polish a turd,tried and failed.Never a passing bin wagon when you need one hey?Some of those old woody TVs did have lovely sound,Ferguson even made one that had stereo sound,but only in those days when playing a stereo tape from a suitable Ferguson VCR ! Uhum - that was what l had for many years as it goes...Probably all made by JVC if the truth was only known.
Ha ha ha River crunch is the word. I am surprised anything still works, Nice workaround with the coax should be ok. Oh I came across your name on the Kent History Forum looking at the Rope way to Dover Docks.
All the best mate from Sheperds Bush...Stuart
(ps) sorry to here you had a fall or two-Take care....
@stuartthegrant Quite so Stuart.lt still goes providing you feed the signal into it from a seperate digibox via AV2.
That ropeway must've been quite the thing.We had one near me until the mid-80s serving the Gypsum mines at Mountfield.Seemed odd seeing that heavy industrial kit swinging its way along its wire through the woods.
All aches and pains now but slowly getting there thanks!
I'm sorry about your health River but I'm glad that you can joke about your "hobbling" (:->. I'm yet to buy a flat screen TV as the old TV still works fine. But my wife is keen on one. I don't know how long I can put her off (:->
Looks like another well engineered modern electronic device! Typical modern Taiwan tat if you ask me! You can't beat the old analogue TV sets. I don't like these digital LCD screens, even with a good signal the picture looks awful. I'm sticking with my old CRT sets, and with people now throwing them out as they're deemed uncool, you can pick them up for peanuts and they'll last a lot longer! Sorry to hear you've taken a tumble, hope you get better soon. All the best, Nick.
@ChiefNolte My thoughts exactly.l don't NEED a flat TV that goes phut after two years and has a pisspoor picture.Will definately be sticking to my ancient Toshiba.
Well l'm slowly getting there but the damp weather doesn't help,thanks.
(PART TWO- sorry for rambling, but..) That aside, the picture's awful- the worst I've seen on one of these sets. Smeary- I think is a good word to describe it! Adjusting the settings only serves to make its deficiencies more obvious!
The sound is comparable to only to a mobile phone. But, they are convinced that it's a great little set. I would have expected more from Hitachi (28") It's upsetting to think that they've wasted £300 on what would only suit a young child's bedroom:(
Hmm, my parents bought a 'Digital HD flatscreen..etc.' 2 or 3 years ago- for the 'analogue switch off'- I advised them to keep their Sony Trinitron.
The 'stand' snapped within days.. The original screw that held it in place was inadequate. So had to held in place, temporarily (we were afraid to walk near it) while they 6 WEEKS for repair.
After the farce of 'engineers' confusing appointments etc, one fetched the wrong part (a new back ..!?!) (no space left, so.. END OF PART ONE!)
@ChannelEggnog How anyone can like such kit's quite beyond me.The whole thing was so flimsy it might as well have been all put in an ice cream box.l don't have such a thing,as my drawing room's huge so my ancient 1990s CRT Toshiba is lost in there,along with its extension speakers from an old Fidelity UA1 record player !
You're not the only one hobbling about, I did something to my back on Friday washing the car and it's still not right! Hope you get back to full health soon. I'm not a fan of surface mount components and discovered they have now made their way into some valve guitar amplifiers with their inherent high voltage DC. What next - Dungeness power station? I'm off to buy a torch!! Take care Rich :-)
@rich3500 Sorry to hear that Rich,hope it goes away quickly ! Valves and crappy modern circuitry don't sound like good bedfellows to me...I expect Dungeness will probably end up as a wind-up power plant,with three cheap LEDs in it LOL
As mentioned you get what you pay for.Just forked out for top of the range Phillips led and its lovely, even has an aluminium remote.Shame Phillips will stop making Tv's soon due to lack of profits on them.GET WELL SOON.
Yeah I know these LCD TV's aren't much chop and I know why so many don't like them, but there really isn't too much of an alternative to tell you, of course some people may still want to use older equipment, but not all new equipment is horrible and bad, look at what you can do on your computer, you couldn't do all the things you do now back in the day on an older computer like making videos for YouTube. I hope you are able to fix that TV set.
@Lachlant1984 Not everything made now's horrendous,but audio-visual kit's a very slippery customer,with even some apparently good brand names just having junk made for them.As for that set,well it is working,but no longer via its own internal tuner,a seperate digibox being used instead.
@AG3304 Oh well, that's good enough. I may have told you some time ago that Bush have a set top box that has full speech output, allowing a low vision or blind person to select a TV channel and configure the box to make it work with their equipment, I've played with one. As for this TV, it's nothing special and the VD player really should have been fully enclosed to prevent discs from falling into the set, and when you cleaning on a shelf behind the TV you would do well to remove the TV first.
@Lachlant1984 A little more thought and this set might've been better that's certain.I think the owner will be moving the TV before cleaning in the future too somehow :--)
Its a sad example of modern electronics. Its all shoddy quality now, and meant to be thrown out when it quits in a couple years. I have stuff from 80 years ago thats still working and repairable, but things made in the last 10 just aren't worth the bother.
@gadget73 That's all well and good, but not all model electronics are crap and poorly made, you get what you pay for, this TV for example wouldn't have been that expensive, if you pay more money you get better quality usually, and think of what you can do now with a computer that you couldn't do 50 years ago as you say.
Wow! What a piece of crap! I hate it when people buy things like this, it's just annoying. Could you buy something cheap back in the good ol' days and expect it to last?
@Lachlant1984 Good point, sometimes you can get bargains. Sometimes you just have to invest in something like a Sony that should last you a little while. Or if you're good with electronics you can get a faulty set for next to nothing and repair it.
@AG3304 Go ahead and do that, since my brother decided he needed my 28" LCD more than i did, my old 14" pye from around the same time has become my main TV. the sound is crap because it's made of plastic but some decent speakers and an amp soon fixed that!
I hate all these modern Chinkily made electronics. There's always a fear that I won't be able to fix anything anymore because of all this surface mount crap. I much prefer having older equipment with discrete components.
yes those surface monted things they are a pain in the butt. i had a cheap phono pre amp that fell of a table one day and a surface monted resistor fell of. and of corse i cant solder that back on becoase i dont have a small enough solder tip and i dont have the right kind of precision so the only thing i could do was to throw it in the rubbish bin.
I attended a conference in Gloucester last week and set off on Sunday to stay over for a early meet before the main event and we travelled up the M5 south so missed the closed off bit from the M4.
Sorry to hear you are not well - sold a flat TV on ebay when it went fut a while back so if a lost cause you may get some money back.
Glad to hear you're in one piece . Progress is slow here just now,all aches and pains for some odd reason . Well they did say it'd get worse,and the swines were right !
The set's gone back to its owner who is using it with a seperate digibox,as l found AV2 still worked...
Erk. I hope the knee heals up. I took a faceplant in the car park of a certain computer megastore last month, knackered my right ankle; so I sympathise. All these shitbag cheap TVs are made by Vestel in Turkey, then are badge engineered en masse. It's hard to find a half-way decent one.
@FatedSnowfox Thanks,and hope your faceplant wasn't too horrendous . Made in Turkey ? Yuck.That's full of ragheads and is virtually third world.Expains everything!
Cheap 'n' Nasty.. Why don't they make TV's now with better sounding speakers and built to last longer than a week!!
I was thinking about buying a new TV but the sound quality just isn't good enough..so now you have to connect up an amplifier or attach better speakers!
Really hate these new flat screen TV's sound wise.
The picture on most is amazing with the 1080p high definition and that you don't need to have magnetically shielded speakers. But on the other hand the sound is awful, because when you get to below the 28 inch TV's the sound is just so tinny. Which means I'm now having to use all my equipment for sound from the TV and needing to build speakers for my grandparents as even when tweaking with the EQ the sound is just to muffled and ear piercing
JuSTSound4 1 week ago 2
@JuSTSound4 Can't fault the pic on some of these.But the trouble is the casing's now SO small there's no depth for decent speakers.Shame really when you have the equalizer feature on so many.At least they could provide extension speaker sockets on the sets perhaps so you could use better speakers,but nope!
AG3304 1 week ago
Are you making new videos soon?
chairuser4 3 weeks ago
@chairuser4 l'm afraid l've had a couple of falls recently which have knocked me about a bit,l've had spine problems for some years now so this is nothing new :-( But do hope to do more soon.
AG3304 3 weeks ago
@AG3304 im so sorry hope you feel better,I'm in a wheelchair so understand,hope you heal up and get busy with projects,stay well.
chairuser4 3 weeks ago
@chairuser4 You stay well too,hope to be back soon.
AG3304 3 weeks ago
oh chung ho grasshopper that killed me,good luck with the project.
chairuser4 3 weeks ago
@chairuser4 Thanks for that...
AG3304 3 weeks ago
just the tuner got damaged? really lucky. 90% of the time the panel is cracked on LCD TVs which fell down
you can usually take the metal covers off of the tuner module, making it easier to solder a connector back on (or a piece of coax wire for that matter). Or just replace the whole tuner (silver can) if you can find one.. search for the model printed on the tuner module on ebay or something..
Knaeckebrotsaege 2 months ago
@Knaeckebrotsaege Luckily yes,but the tuner module is really slim and soldered to the circuitboard.No chance of soldering another connector on that l'm afraid without completely unsoldering the whole thing.
AG3304 2 months ago
Great vid as always I've been away for a while recovering from a stroke, but I'm back to watch more of your vids, keep up the good work, River
markcumbriauk 3 months ago
@markcumbriauk Crikey! You take it steady up there.Mind you my neighbour had a stroke some years ago,but is now so recovered you can hardly tell.Hope it'll be the same for you too.
AG3304 3 months ago
i live in greenwich southeast london and fireworks was banned from local sweet shops and so there wasnt one bit of noise !! no kids stupidly letting them off in phone boxes and such !! the only fireworks i saw was from blackheath common run by the council !!!!lol for once all was peaceful !!!!!!lol
stuartellis2006 3 months ago
@stuartellis2006 Sounds like you had a nice,quiet,well-organised bonfire night.People are quick to criticise the councils but from time to time they really do do someting for the good LOL.Perhaps we ought to let some off inside the kids/chavs and see how far they go up in the air for a change.
AG3304 3 months ago
@AG3304 just what i was thinking river !!!!lol
stuartellis2006 3 months ago
good news river dvds in america land are on there last set of plugs. long live vhs and beta!!!!! and i have to say what a lovely tv you have there a little fall and it breaks up completely. speakers from earphones and a dvd player that if you have butter fingers stores dvds for you aswell. my god some things are awful. god bless the days when things were made properly. Neil.
EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME 3 months ago
@EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME Yes,this thing was truly dire.Never a dustcart passing when you need one l fear.As you rightly say,god bless the days when things were made properly. River.
AG3304 3 months ago
Great video and that TV is more proof of how modern things are designed to be thrown away when faulty.
I wish the world had more people like you with common sense.
I hope your legs recover. Take care.
Turbolad995 3 months ago
@Turbolad995 Thanks for that,and yes,another example of non-fixable piss-poor modern products.
Take care yourself too :-)
AG3304 3 months ago
Hi river good to see u back hope u get it fixed and your knee gets better kind regards
Rick
getaghetto 3 months ago
@getaghetto Hi Rick,thanks for that,River.
AG3304 3 months ago
@triangman1992 You can't polish a turd,tried and failed.Never a passing bin wagon when you need one hey?Some of those old woody TVs did have lovely sound,Ferguson even made one that had stereo sound,but only in those days when playing a stereo tape from a suitable Ferguson VCR ! Uhum - that was what l had for many years as it goes...Probably all made by JVC if the truth was only known.
AG3304 3 months ago
@oldtime40s l had one given to me that did that,badged as a Wharfedale.Wharfedale my arse...
AG3304 3 months ago
Ha ha ha River crunch is the word. I am surprised anything still works, Nice workaround with the coax should be ok. Oh I came across your name on the Kent History Forum looking at the Rope way to Dover Docks.
All the best mate from Sheperds Bush...Stuart
(ps) sorry to here you had a fall or two-Take care....
stuartthegrant 3 months ago
@stuartthegrant Quite so Stuart.lt still goes providing you feed the signal into it from a seperate digibox via AV2.
That ropeway must've been quite the thing.We had one near me until the mid-80s serving the Gypsum mines at Mountfield.Seemed odd seeing that heavy industrial kit swinging its way along its wire through the woods.
All aches and pains now but slowly getting there thanks!
All the best from Hastings,River.
AG3304 3 months ago
I'm sorry about your health River but I'm glad that you can joke about your "hobbling" (:->. I'm yet to buy a flat screen TV as the old TV still works fine. But my wife is keen on one. I don't know how long I can put her off (:->
bluenazz 3 months ago
@bluenazz That's all l can do Craig ! They have a huge set next door,with the usual crappy strange looking picture ! :-)
AG3304 3 months ago
Looks like another well engineered modern electronic device! Typical modern Taiwan tat if you ask me! You can't beat the old analogue TV sets. I don't like these digital LCD screens, even with a good signal the picture looks awful. I'm sticking with my old CRT sets, and with people now throwing them out as they're deemed uncool, you can pick them up for peanuts and they'll last a lot longer! Sorry to hear you've taken a tumble, hope you get better soon. All the best, Nick.
ChiefNolte 3 months ago
@ChiefNolte My thoughts exactly.l don't NEED a flat TV that goes phut after two years and has a pisspoor picture.Will definately be sticking to my ancient Toshiba.
Well l'm slowly getting there but the damp weather doesn't help,thanks.
Warm regards,River.
AG3304 3 months ago
(PART TWO- sorry for rambling, but..) That aside, the picture's awful- the worst I've seen on one of these sets. Smeary- I think is a good word to describe it! Adjusting the settings only serves to make its deficiencies more obvious!
The sound is comparable to only to a mobile phone. But, they are convinced that it's a great little set. I would have expected more from Hitachi (28") It's upsetting to think that they've wasted £300 on what would only suit a young child's bedroom:(
ChannelEggnog 3 months ago
Hmm, my parents bought a 'Digital HD flatscreen..etc.' 2 or 3 years ago- for the 'analogue switch off'- I advised them to keep their Sony Trinitron.
The 'stand' snapped within days.. The original screw that held it in place was inadequate. So had to held in place, temporarily (we were afraid to walk near it) while they 6 WEEKS for repair.
After the farce of 'engineers' confusing appointments etc, one fetched the wrong part (a new back ..!?!) (no space left, so.. END OF PART ONE!)
ChannelEggnog 3 months ago
@ChannelEggnog How anyone can like such kit's quite beyond me.The whole thing was so flimsy it might as well have been all put in an ice cream box.l don't have such a thing,as my drawing room's huge so my ancient 1990s CRT Toshiba is lost in there,along with its extension speakers from an old Fidelity UA1 record player !
AG3304 3 months ago
You're not the only one hobbling about, I did something to my back on Friday washing the car and it's still not right! Hope you get back to full health soon. I'm not a fan of surface mount components and discovered they have now made their way into some valve guitar amplifiers with their inherent high voltage DC. What next - Dungeness power station? I'm off to buy a torch!! Take care Rich :-)
rich3500 3 months ago
@rich3500 Sorry to hear that Rich,hope it goes away quickly ! Valves and crappy modern circuitry don't sound like good bedfellows to me...I expect Dungeness will probably end up as a wind-up power plant,with three cheap LEDs in it LOL
Warm regards,River.
AG3304 3 months ago
great vid river hope you fix it ,remember those words on elec equipment made in japan.
mackinl 3 months ago
@mackinl More chance of pissing in the queen's handbag as it turned out . But it does work through a seperate digibox,so that's what the owner does !
AG3304 3 months ago
that tv is crap
pennyf9 3 months ago
@pennyf9 Plop plop flush !!! LOL
AG3304 3 months ago
@AG3304 exactly
pennyf9 3 months ago
As mentioned you get what you pay for.Just forked out for top of the range Phillips led and its lovely, even has an aluminium remote.Shame Phillips will stop making Tv's soon due to lack of profits on them.GET WELL SOON.
SANIZIP 3 months ago
@SANIZIP Shame about Philips audio visual gear no longer being made well and in decent countries . Perhaps your TV's their swansong.
AG3304 3 months ago
Yeah I know these LCD TV's aren't much chop and I know why so many don't like them, but there really isn't too much of an alternative to tell you, of course some people may still want to use older equipment, but not all new equipment is horrible and bad, look at what you can do on your computer, you couldn't do all the things you do now back in the day on an older computer like making videos for YouTube. I hope you are able to fix that TV set.
Lachlant1984 3 months ago
@Lachlant1984 Not everything made now's horrendous,but audio-visual kit's a very slippery customer,with even some apparently good brand names just having junk made for them.As for that set,well it is working,but no longer via its own internal tuner,a seperate digibox being used instead.
AG3304 3 months ago
@AG3304 Oh well, that's good enough. I may have told you some time ago that Bush have a set top box that has full speech output, allowing a low vision or blind person to select a TV channel and configure the box to make it work with their equipment, I've played with one. As for this TV, it's nothing special and the VD player really should have been fully enclosed to prevent discs from falling into the set, and when you cleaning on a shelf behind the TV you would do well to remove the TV first.
Lachlant1984 3 months ago
@Lachlant1984 A little more thought and this set might've been better that's certain.I think the owner will be moving the TV before cleaning in the future too somehow :--)
AG3304 3 months ago
Its a sad example of modern electronics. Its all shoddy quality now, and meant to be thrown out when it quits in a couple years. I have stuff from 80 years ago thats still working and repairable, but things made in the last 10 just aren't worth the bother.
gadget73 3 months ago
@gadget73 That's all well and good, but not all model electronics are crap and poorly made, you get what you pay for, this TV for example wouldn't have been that expensive, if you pay more money you get better quality usually, and think of what you can do now with a computer that you couldn't do 50 years ago as you say.
Lachlant1984 3 months ago
@gadget73 My sentiments exactly.I won't normally even look at crap like that,it ain't worth the bother as you say.
AG3304 3 months ago
Wow! What a piece of crap! I hate it when people buy things like this, it's just annoying. Could you buy something cheap back in the good ol' days and expect it to last?
Jallge 3 months ago
@Jallge But what's the alternative? What else is there to buy that's easy to come by?
Lachlant1984 3 months ago
@Lachlant1984 Good point, sometimes you can get bargains. Sometimes you just have to invest in something like a Sony that should last you a little while. Or if you're good with electronics you can get a faulty set for next to nothing and repair it.
Jallge 3 months ago
@Jallge Definately was.Think l'll stick to my deeply unfashionable CRT Toshiba from about 1990 ish.
AG3304 3 months ago
@AG3304 Go ahead and do that, since my brother decided he needed my 28" LCD more than i did, my old 14" pye from around the same time has become my main TV. the sound is crap because it's made of plastic but some decent speakers and an amp soon fixed that!
Jallge 3 months ago
@Jallge LOL!
AG3304 3 months ago
I hate all these modern Chinkily made electronics. There's always a fear that I won't be able to fix anything anymore because of all this surface mount crap. I much prefer having older equipment with discrete components.
The1970sInfatuate 3 months ago
@The1970sInfatuate
yes those surface monted things they are a pain in the butt. i had a cheap phono pre amp that fell of a table one day and a surface monted resistor fell of. and of corse i cant solder that back on becoase i dont have a small enough solder tip and i dont have the right kind of precision so the only thing i could do was to throw it in the rubbish bin.
agfamatic91 3 months ago
@The1970sInfatuate Me too,ghastly modern crap.Much better off with a Panasonic 8-track and JVC amp...
AG3304 3 months ago
@AG3304 Indeed I am.
The1970sInfatuate 3 months ago
Hi River,
I attended a conference in Gloucester last week and set off on Sunday to stay over for a early meet before the main event and we travelled up the M5 south so missed the closed off bit from the M4.
Sorry to hear you are not well - sold a flat TV on ebay when it went fut a while back so if a lost cause you may get some money back.
Regards
Richard
spannerworks1 3 months ago
@spannerworks1 Hi Richard,
Glad to hear you're in one piece . Progress is slow here just now,all aches and pains for some odd reason . Well they did say it'd get worse,and the swines were right !
The set's gone back to its owner who is using it with a seperate digibox,as l found AV2 still worked...
Regards,
River.
AG3304 3 months ago
@AG3304
Hi River,
Great work and thanks
Regards
Richard
spannerworks1 3 months ago
Erk. I hope the knee heals up. I took a faceplant in the car park of a certain computer megastore last month, knackered my right ankle; so I sympathise. All these shitbag cheap TVs are made by Vestel in Turkey, then are badge engineered en masse. It's hard to find a half-way decent one.
FatedSnowfox 3 months ago
@FatedSnowfox Thanks,and hope your faceplant wasn't too horrendous . Made in Turkey ? Yuck.That's full of ragheads and is virtually third world.Expains everything!
AG3304 3 months ago
Always keep the inner, of the coax, as short as possible when splicing the cable.
Great vid River!!!!
milradio1 3 months ago
@milradio1 Thanks,and yes,good idea to do that.Nasty flatsceen garbage.
AG3304 3 months ago
Cheap 'n' Nasty.. Why don't they make TV's now with better sounding speakers and built to last longer than a week!!
I was thinking about buying a new TV but the sound quality just isn't good enough..so now you have to connect up an amplifier or attach better speakers!
I do hope your repair job works!
VintageAudioSounds 3 months ago
@VintageAudioSounds Alas no.Further chaos had been wrought within.So a seperate digibox it had to be.Fortunately AV2 input still worked.
Horrid modern rubbish.
AG3304 3 months ago
looks like a real piece of shit.
artifactingreality 3 months ago 9
@artifactingreality I agree lol
VintageAudioSounds 3 months ago
@artifactingreality That could be because it was ! PLOP PLOP FLUSSSHHHH!!
AG3304 3 months ago