THANK YOU! I am so glad that there are people on this planet with enough sense to do what you did, and actually find out the real context, instead of believing an idiotic 20 second clip the way so many people are. You and a small handful of others are giving me a glimmer of hope in humanity.
i saw it i refer you to rober green's book 48 law of power: Law 3
Conceal your Intentions
Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. If they have no clue what you are up to, they cannot prepare a defense. Guide them far enough down the wrong path, envelope them in enough smoke, and by the time they realize your intentions, it will be too late.
@firegod001 I take it you do not like Law 3 of Robert Greens book as every Presidents used so skilfully.
Law 11 the left wingers love this one.
Learn to Keep People Dependent on You
To maintain your independence you must always be needed and wanted. The more you are relied on, the more freedom you have. Make people depend on you for their happiness and prosperity and you have nothing to fear. Never teach them enough so that they can do without you..
Control the Options: Get Others to Play with the Cards you Deal
The best deceptions are the ones that seem to give the other person a choice: Your victims feel they are in control, but are actually your puppets. Give people options that come out in your favor whichever one they choose. Force them to make choices between the lesser of two evils, both of which serve your purpose. Put them on the horns of a dilemma: They are gored wherever they turn.
@firegod001 So Right! wait till you see Rick Perry deal the cards as President, that SOB will make Obama look like a two bit street hustler and Obama is good at bending America over.and dry...........
My advice to the left wing Vote for Ron Paul! The Republicans hate him, the Democrats don't like him and Globalist hope he dies soon in a horrible way. The corporatist would like to have him assassinated and the common freedom loving American greatest wish is to see him President! .
@mechanicalbu11 Hopefully, Perry doesn't make it, and if Bachmann gets elected, this isn't America anymore. I'm dead serious about that, and I'd be packing my fucking bags. Ron Paul is one of my favorite Republicans, but I'm still not sure about him over Obama or not. It would be a close one for me.
@firegod001 Lying Obama has increased the national debt to 15 trillion dollars, increased unemployment to 10%, allowed hundreds of people to be murdered by assault rifles his administration approved being passed out to felons and the Mexican drug cartels, handed our stealth and drone technology over to the Chinese, denied hundreds of unemployed workers the jobs the Canadian pipeline would bring, etc.
Only an idiot would vote for incompetent Obama. Firepansy001 is such an idiot.
I'm sorry. I didn't know you lived during the third riech or study all of what happened in germany durring that time. a civilian militiary force is the same as the gestapo.
@FlyingArmpit I'm afraid you're the one drinking Koolaid. You got DUPED by an out of context 20 second clip. You should be embarrassed instead of continuing to make a complete ass out of yourself.
@lyodd989 It was a metaphor, dumbass! And besides, if you put all good charity, community service, and other civilian good deeds together, I sure would hope the money invovled would be more than that spent on the military, but I guess that's just wishful thinking in this fucking country.
I have watched the whole clip, he said what he said for a reason. He ment every word, but then again I guess a Liberal does have a hard time figuring out facts
Hi pot, meet kettle! I agree with the naming of it as security force. why say that? just say "I would like to see more people doing community service around the nation to help each other out." Even though you don't like it, Hitler's SS was a young volunteer "security service" for Hitler.
And that's just it he had to have said it by accident or intentionally because the excerpt still carries the same meaning even when watched in full. If on purpose he slipped it in there to get them to applaud the idea.
He should have said something to the effect, that we need community outreach and service to the level of our military service, and then it would have made sense given the full body of his speech. Or that we need higher levels of service in PeaceCorps to aid our national security
@jbeddome1 Holy fucking shit. Am I the only person on YouTube who knows what a fucking metaphor is??? If you are joking around with your friend, and you say you're going to kill him, with a big grin on your face, did you just threaten his life? WTF??
I found it difficult to believe that Obama would say it and thought the clips were cut or taken out of context.
Know that I have watched it, either Obama misspoke when he said that we need a Civilian National Security Force to achieve our National Security Objectives or he stated it on purpose. If he stated it on purpose then it still caries the same meaning as the excerpt.
The context of his speech was using military service as unit of measure to what he feels communal service should be.
I'm honestly puzzled by the fact he said it myself. Having watched the full clip I have a hard time fitting into the context of what else he was saying.
My only guess is that he was playing to the fact he was addressing a crowd at a military base presumably made up largely of vets and their families. I would be worried it might be more but there's been no legislation in that direction so far.
I can see that arguement. I think the only difference at times between serious criticism and conspiracy is the level of logic in the arguement.
Sometimes it looks to me that the only time people call things "serious criticism" is when they feel it can be countered with their ability. I agree several things that are labled "conspiracy" are too vague, or doesn't have enough logic. However, I've seen many times that a strong arguement is labled conspiracy, and the accusation isn't backed up
you are getting at the best point, one which we should all consider. how would we feel if the side "opposite our own" politically was perpetrating certain actions? I don't want my own side inheriting a domestic security force with political overtones, at the same time power centralization and a nightmare of hi-tech observation puts up an infrastructure of complete control POTENTIAL.
As in, the person who made their point stated their belief and backed it up with strong, solid evidence. Then, from out of the blue, a person randomly came in and called conspiracy theory, but made no actual defense of their claim. They either used emotional appeal, just said how rediculous it was(even with evidence), and/or tried to insult the person. As that happens, all of the people who couldn't find anything to argue against it joined in and claimed victory for unproven belief.
This is a typical scenario I run into very often. When I see a near perfect, symmetrical fall of a 47 story building and call bullshit on fire weakening steel, I'm called a nutcase almost immediately, as though passion trumps common sense.
There are so many conspiracy theories being thrown around at the moment. I think it is true that Obama is just another face of Wall-Street, but the way people are acting, you would have thought he was the first. At least he can talk intelligently and won't be quite so much of a threat to world security as Bush was. You are absolutely right in pointing out that when people jump on these unimportant conspiracy based accusations it detracts from those making serious criticisms of his time in office
THANK YOU! I am so glad that there are people on this planet with enough sense to do what you did, and actually find out the real context, instead of believing an idiotic 20 second clip the way so many people are. You and a small handful of others are giving me a glimmer of hope in humanity.
firegod001 6 months ago
i saw it i refer you to rober green's book 48 law of power: Law 3
Conceal your Intentions
Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. If they have no clue what you are up to, they cannot prepare a defense. Guide them far enough down the wrong path, envelope them in enough smoke, and by the time they realize your intentions, it will be too late.
mechanicalbu11 2 years ago
@mechanicalbu11 But make sure you tell them exactly what you're doing in a little metaphor? Are you fucking retarded?
firegod001 6 months ago
@firegod001 I take it you do not like Law 3 of Robert Greens book as every Presidents used so skilfully.
Law 11 the left wingers love this one.
Learn to Keep People Dependent on You
To maintain your independence you must always be needed and wanted. The more you are relied on, the more freedom you have. Make people depend on you for their happiness and prosperity and you have nothing to fear. Never teach them enough so that they can do without you..
mechanicalbu11 6 months ago
@firegod001 Law 31 Obama The Dealer
Control the Options: Get Others to Play with the Cards you Deal
The best deceptions are the ones that seem to give the other person a choice: Your victims feel they are in control, but are actually your puppets. Give people options that come out in your favor whichever one they choose. Force them to make choices between the lesser of two evils, both of which serve your purpose. Put them on the horns of a dilemma: They are gored wherever they turn.
mechanicalbu11 6 months ago
@mechanicalbu11 Politicians on all sides do that, or they wouldn't be politicians.
firegod001 6 months ago
@firegod001 So Right! wait till you see Rick Perry deal the cards as President, that SOB will make Obama look like a two bit street hustler and Obama is good at bending America over.and dry...........
My advice to the left wing Vote for Ron Paul! The Republicans hate him, the Democrats don't like him and Globalist hope he dies soon in a horrible way. The corporatist would like to have him assassinated and the common freedom loving American greatest wish is to see him President! .
mechanicalbu11 6 months ago
@mechanicalbu11 Hopefully, Perry doesn't make it, and if Bachmann gets elected, this isn't America anymore. I'm dead serious about that, and I'd be packing my fucking bags. Ron Paul is one of my favorite Republicans, but I'm still not sure about him over Obama or not. It would be a close one for me.
firegod001 6 months ago
@firegod001 Lying Obama has increased the national debt to 15 trillion dollars, increased unemployment to 10%, allowed hundreds of people to be murdered by assault rifles his administration approved being passed out to felons and the Mexican drug cartels, handed our stealth and drone technology over to the Chinese, denied hundreds of unemployed workers the jobs the Canadian pipeline would bring, etc.
Only an idiot would vote for incompetent Obama. Firepansy001 is such an idiot.
RadarGuidedVermin 2 months ago
fuck that pay me fool
delnemorio 2 years ago
I'm sorry. I didn't know you lived during the third riech or study all of what happened in germany durring that time. a civilian militiary force is the same as the gestapo.
edmund94232 2 years ago
@edmund94232 MORON
firegod001 6 months ago
Was looking for the context of the clip and found this. Thanks for it. You're completely right.
claygarrett 2 years ago
This carrot topped retard is sucking the coolaid so hard...
FlyingArmpit 2 years ago
@FlyingArmpit I'm afraid you're the one drinking Koolaid. You got DUPED by an out of context 20 second clip. You should be embarrassed instead of continuing to make a complete ass out of yourself.
firegod001 6 months ago
uhm its as well founded as the military ?
that doesnt sound like community service
lyodd989 2 years ago
@lyodd989 It was a metaphor, dumbass! And besides, if you put all good charity, community service, and other civilian good deeds together, I sure would hope the money invovled would be more than that spent on the military, but I guess that's just wishful thinking in this fucking country.
firegod001 6 months ago
I have watched the whole clip, he said what he said for a reason. He ment every word, but then again I guess a Liberal does have a hard time figuring out facts
Vunks2000 2 years ago
Hi pot, meet kettle! I agree with the naming of it as security force. why say that? just say "I would like to see more people doing community service around the nation to help each other out." Even though you don't like it, Hitler's SS was a young volunteer "security service" for Hitler.
imabestbuy 2 years ago
And that's just it he had to have said it by accident or intentionally because the excerpt still carries the same meaning even when watched in full. If on purpose he slipped it in there to get them to applaud the idea.
He should have said something to the effect, that we need community outreach and service to the level of our military service, and then it would have made sense given the full body of his speech. Or that we need higher levels of service in PeaceCorps to aid our national security
jbeddome1 2 years ago
@jbeddome1 Holy fucking shit. Am I the only person on YouTube who knows what a fucking metaphor is??? If you are joking around with your friend, and you say you're going to kill him, with a big grin on your face, did you just threaten his life? WTF??
firegod001 6 months ago
Did you watch the full speech? Or are you still just commenting on a 20 second clip someone posted to rile you up?
Spacemonkey2084 2 years ago
I found it difficult to believe that Obama would say it and thought the clips were cut or taken out of context.
Know that I have watched it, either Obama misspoke when he said that we need a Civilian National Security Force to achieve our National Security Objectives or he stated it on purpose. If he stated it on purpose then it still caries the same meaning as the excerpt.
The context of his speech was using military service as unit of measure to what he feels communal service should be.
jbeddome1 2 years ago
I'm honestly puzzled by the fact he said it myself. Having watched the full clip I have a hard time fitting into the context of what else he was saying.
My only guess is that he was playing to the fact he was addressing a crowd at a military base presumably made up largely of vets and their families. I would be worried it might be more but there's been no legislation in that direction so far.
Spacemonkey2084 2 years ago
lol scrounging for the camera in the beginning? excellent intro, you should use that before all your videos.
starkDeath 2 years ago
Yeah..
I made it fast and was happy it all went in a single clip so I just uploaded it without any editing.
Spacemonkey2084 2 years ago
Serious criticism vs conspiracy. perhaps there isn't as much difference in the two as some like to think.
*Realizes comment was vague, but knows you're thinking about it*
BayAreaLen 2 years ago
I can see that arguement. I think the only difference at times between serious criticism and conspiracy is the level of logic in the arguement.
Sometimes it looks to me that the only time people call things "serious criticism" is when they feel it can be countered with their ability. I agree several things that are labled "conspiracy" are too vague, or doesn't have enough logic. However, I've seen many times that a strong arguement is labled conspiracy, and the accusation isn't backed up
Kiroku95 2 years ago
As much as anyone would like to pin this on any ONE faction, both sides do it in turn.
Personally, I think the government should have a Democrat and a Republican in the office at the same time.
Kiroku95 2 years ago
you are getting at the best point, one which we should all consider. how would we feel if the side "opposite our own" politically was perpetrating certain actions? I don't want my own side inheriting a domestic security force with political overtones, at the same time power centralization and a nightmare of hi-tech observation puts up an infrastructure of complete control POTENTIAL.
WindRider707 2 years ago
@Kiroku95 That's like having a KKK member and a Black Panther member decide racial matters. We need MORE choices in this country.
firegod001 6 months ago
As in, the person who made their point stated their belief and backed it up with strong, solid evidence. Then, from out of the blue, a person randomly came in and called conspiracy theory, but made no actual defense of their claim. They either used emotional appeal, just said how rediculous it was(even with evidence), and/or tried to insult the person. As that happens, all of the people who couldn't find anything to argue against it joined in and claimed victory for unproven belief.
Kiroku95 2 years ago
This is a typical scenario I run into very often. When I see a near perfect, symmetrical fall of a 47 story building and call bullshit on fire weakening steel, I'm called a nutcase almost immediately, as though passion trumps common sense.
BayAreaLen 2 years ago
I'm sorry I have managed to agree with you again, next time I will try and disagree a little so we can debate and refine our views! :)
MaxyPadUltra 2 years ago
There are so many conspiracy theories being thrown around at the moment. I think it is true that Obama is just another face of Wall-Street, but the way people are acting, you would have thought he was the first. At least he can talk intelligently and won't be quite so much of a threat to world security as Bush was. You are absolutely right in pointing out that when people jump on these unimportant conspiracy based accusations it detracts from those making serious criticisms of his time in office
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