16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved ; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. 17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed : in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues ; 18 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover ."
I bet you think I don't believe in this part of the Injil, true? I do believe in it, being that Qur'an 5:68 tells me I have no ground to stand upon, unLESS I stand firm upon the Injil.
@RammatRamzi Don't be ridiculous YOUR BIBLE ARE WRITTEN BY A LIER ( ST.PAUL) IF YOU WANT TO TRY IF YOUR BIBLE IS TELLING THE TRUTH, HAHAH.. NOW YOU CAN DRINK POISON?????? LOL, HAHA I THINK YOU ARE INSANE. GO PSYCHIATRIC CONSULTATION DUDES.
Again, the Bible is not MY book. If you read the Qur'an (which calls itself "clear signs"), the Bible is ALLAH'S book that is "confirms PREVIOUS scriptures" (Bible). That the Bible is the "Book" that makes "People of the Book", and, according to Qur'an 5:68 is something Jews and Christians are to "stand FIRM upon". Or, what is the Taurat and Injil IF they aren't a part of the "Book" (Bible)? Still, sounds like you don't believe Mo about the dates, DO you? :)
Yeah, pretty much, because the Injil's John 1:1 doesn't make sense if Jesus and God aren't the same One God. By the way, IF the Injil is NOT the New Testament, then WHERE is that Injil Qur'an 5:68 tells Christians to "stand FIRM upon"? :)
16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved ; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. 17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed : in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues ; 18 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover ."
After all these lies and media propaganda against muslims and how they portraits them, people are still converting to islam after realizing the truth and that proves what Allah has said in his mightiest book:
"And let not those grieve you (O Muhammad SAW) who rush with haste to disbelieve; verily, not the least harm will they do to Allah. It is Allah's Will to give them no portion in the Hereafter. For them there is a great torment."
Allah extends provision for whom He wills and restricts [it]. And they rejoice in the worldly life, while the worldly life is not, compared to the Hereafter, except [brief] enjoyment.
And those who disbelieved say, "Why has a sign not been sent down to him from his Lord?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, Allah leaves astray whom He wills and guides to Himself whoever turns back [to Him] -
At first, god doesn't control what you believe, you have free will to choose what to believe and what not, because if god controlled our beliefs it would be unjust for us to be judged and god is never unjust to the people.
(Whoever does righteousness - it is for his [own] soul; and whoever does evil [does so] against it. And your Lord is not ever unjust to [His] servants.)
Read the first comment if you haven't read it yet.
God shows the way and the people choose to accept or refuse.
(And as for Thamud, We guided them, but they preferred blindness over guidance, so the thunderbolt of humiliating punishment seized them for what they used to earn.)
so "we guided them" doesn't mean (we made them believe) it means we (showed them the right path), but they refused and chose what they liked, and "blindness over guidance" proves it.
You don't even know arabic, and arabic is my native language and that's why i understand the Qur'an more than you will ever do, cause i read the Qur'an in the main language of it, while you read from translations.
If so, then it IS "We (Allah) SHOW on and off the right path as We Please", or, is it "We guide on and off the right path"? Which is it in the original Arabic?
Islam has declered all non-islamic part of world to be at war.
That means all parts of the world exept for Islam-states. is where you are allowed to lie. And this makes it prety clear. Although you can stil lie to your friends and falime in the Islamic-state.
dawg what are u talking about i just read both of the verses !!!!!!!!!!!! the word lie is not even written lol guys go and check yourselves ..but these kind of videos just make my beleif stronger ....god says that the bad people who don t beleive and those who are hypocrits when they see our signs or verses they are lile blind ....acturally in the quran if u see something and u pretend that u didn t it s a sin go read yourselves plz peace
taqqiya is only used when your life is in danger, for your belief in God! .. in the past Muslims were killed just for believing in God and following Islam!! so when they were told to stop believing or convert to another religion then taqqiya was used, so they lied and said they will stop believing in Islam... but as long as they did not stop believing with there hearts then they were still Muslim.. but lying is a big sin in Islam! so please don't spread lies, when you have no knowledge of it.
Sounds like Muslims aren't only allowed to lie if they feel their life is in danger, but, they are allowed if just "under compulsion", AND, they HAVE to lie when around Christians and Jews, because if they tell the truth, that they HAVE taken Christians and Jews as friends and helpers, then they are cut off from Allah (see Qur'an 3:28).
what kind of question is this, get more information before asking such a dumb question. We cannot lie to friends / enemies, lying is wrong and its a sin. Where did you bring this misinterpreted sht from? Dude get your facts straight before making a fool out of yourself.. dont reply back to me with some 'vague translation' of the quran, give me the arabic verse, im a native speaker and i have never heard of the crap you just said.
You're not taqqiya-ing are you? I mean, you DON'T believe "war is deceit"? You DON'T believe Qur'an 16:106 and 3:28? Well, may you continue to believe that lying is ONLY to protect your life and NOT to spread Islam with taqqiya.
@RammatRamzi im not a muslim so i have no idea what you're talking about, taqqiya what? i just come from a muslim family, and i was taught explicitly not to lie and all the other morales etc. to me it seemed you was trying to misinterpret a verse that says muslims should 'lie', if im wrong then i apologize. peace.
You're not Muslim, but, your FAMILY is? What was it that seperated you from your family in belief? Do they know about Qur'an 18:74-81, or, are they Muslim in name only? I have a feeling that most Muslims are Muslim in name only so they don't pay the jizyah, or else.
@RammatRamzi What? So we don't pay ? o.o... No, i was born in England, they try and educate me about the religion but i refuse to believe in paranormal. They haven't given up and i'm taking the good ideals and morales from the religion, im considering reading the Quran one day. Why are you trying to ruin the image of islam by saying we have to pay some sort of fee lol?
Well, when Sharia Law is imposed, it sounds like you HAVE to be Muslim, or, have no insurance that you won't be attacked after sacred months are passed (Qur'an 9:1-5 and 29) UNLESS you pay the jizyah tax with willing submission. By the way, instead of reading the Qur'an, you should STUDY the Qur'an.
this rammazat ramazinian, is a christian, who i feel isnt after the truth, he is after one less knowledgable muslim to make a wrong statement then to use that to further fuel his fire. But there is enough fire for him unless he repents and seeks the truth with an open heart. instead of another having another agenda. what a silly thing to be doing and a complete wqaste of time for himslef, if he wasnt doing this for true knowledge and seeking the truth. He likes to bend and twist verses.
@MegaBoxer77 When you state a verse and say this means such and such what do you have to say about that, your bending the verse in your question when you think your giving the meaning of it. to you your question is retorical. Your not asking your stating your veiw in the form of a question. and your veiw is wrong.
So, when I say "isn't Quran 5:68 saying a Christian to stand firm upon the Torah and Injil, isn't that saying he's supposed to stand firm upon the Bible?" that's the wrong question to ask? When I ask, "when Quran 10:94 tells YOU, a Muslim/Muhammad, to go to those who have read the before Scriptures IF they are in doubt about the Quran", that IS, or, is that not, a bad question to ask?
whos translation of the meaning of the quran are these from. You need to understand when and why this revelation was sent. so you need to reseach this from reputable scholors. and ask what does this verse mean. then when you get your answer not to keep saying but it says stand firm with the bible, and the bible says that Jesus is God. The Injil was Gods revelation, and that is the revelation it refers to, not to revelation created by men which most parts of the bible are today.
If so, then why obey 10:94? IF it's NOT the Bible is 10:94, then WHAT are the "before Scriptures" and WHAT is the "Book" that makes "People of the Book"?
@MegaBoxer77 well it may sound like the bible in english. but the Quran , being complete does not allow you to drink at all. what i was saying was, because it is a revelation which was revealed over 23 years. the first revelation about alcohol was basicly saying do not pray whilst intoxicated. but when later on as revelations came down, it was totally banned.
@MegaBoxer77 Do christians differ on the issue of alcohol, in christianity? because i have alot of christian friends that tell me that it is not allowed, but they still do it. did you say that peters verse in the bible, basically abrogates all the other 74 verses in the bible about alcohol and its being forbiden? and did you say that peter says one is not defiled by what goes into your mouth. interesting.
@RammatRamzi u're supposed to tell the truth every time and in everything u say every thing u actually pronouce is recorded that what we believe in islam.
according to prophet in time of war but that's another thing.
u cant ask muslims when they can lie but in the mean time they are taught to say the the truth always, your interpretation is false, ur question should be to a muslim council scientist (just send them e-mail) not to simple muslim cause beyond our level of expertise as muslims.
Can you tell the difference between a Muslim who is peaceful, against lying, and, believes jihad is ONLY "inner struggle", from a Muslim who believes fighting in the cause of Allah IS fighting in the cause of Allah, using a weapon to kill? Especially when Muhammad said "war is deceit"? CAN you tell the difference?
oh boy...u know i just postet a giant article that i wrote myself about the death penalty for aspostasy....after a few hours, i guess when the blog masters recognized it..it was a muslim bog, they erased everything i wrote..
@Serpico261 You need to follow that verse in context as well. because not everybody in every time is to be killed for apostacy. you need to understand it in context and the explination is more than 400 charachters long
@Serpico261 i dont know what you refering to but the penalty for apostacy is not always death. This law needs to be looked at in islamic books of fikh with hadith references. maybe you should take a different approach, maybe you approach is the problem. Maybe.
to the person posting this video. if you truelly want answers to this question, you should be getting answers from the right people. these are imams. 4 of the most popular imams are imam hanifi, imam shafi,imam hambeli, imam maliki. these are the schools of thought which almost all muslims follow one of. known as fikh.when trying to understand a particular verse from the quran, one must look at , when the verse was revealed,why,what are the authentic hadiths about the topic.
@JEMOMER if this rule wasnt allowed in islam for lying during war, this would be a possible senario... a muslim soldier is captured and is asked," where are the rest of you comrads hiding, and when and where will they attack from." and the muslim will say there are 2000 of us and they are just over that hill over there and they will strike at 0500 hrs... know tell me does that sound like a good idea? or would it have been better for his people if he were allowed to lie in that curcumstance?
@JEMOMER second senario to lie is when you want to bring peace between 2 people... imagine not lying. lets say John said some terrible things about micheal and that he felt like beating him. and then micheal asked you what john thought of him. would you say well he swore at you behind your back and wants to kick your head in, or would you say rather he said nothing.even though you knew..even though it would be lying.
@JEMOMER third senario.lying to ones wife for the benifit of the marriage. imagine not being allowed to lie for this one.haha disaster. after several years of marriage, your wife who has had a few kids and packed on the kilo's, wears a new dress she brought,shes got her celulite all over flabby stomach from babies and developed a lazy eye. and she asks you do you think i look beautifull. would you say the truth, if so please post her response on youtube.haha lol
Can you tell the difference between a Muslim who is peaceful, against lying, and, believes jihad is ONLY "inner struggle", from a Muslim who believes fighting in the cause of Allah IS fighting in the cause of Allah, using a weapon to kill? Especially when Muhammad said "war is deceit"? CAN you tell the difference?
@MegaBoxer77 when quating a hadith use references please because we cannot take hadith as narrated by meggabxer77 to be authentic. Secondly, yes inner struggle is a jihad of the nefs. and war is also a Jihad as long as it is complies with the Quran and the hadith. and there are many other forms of Jihad. For instance the stuggle to feed your family. the Struggle to be patient when you are being oppressed. the Stuggle to stand up for that which is truth. and many more.
All you have to do is type into your web browser "Muhammad, 'war is deceit'", and it will take you to the Hadith in question. By the way, HOW can you tell a peaceful "inner struggle" Muslim from one who believes the world is divided between war and peace, and anything NOT under dar al Islam, is the abode of war where lying and deceit for Allah can take place?
@MegaBoxer77 why dont you Go to the chatislam site that i told you about and ask your question. are you interested in islam to learn about the correct way , of the meanings of the holy Quran and sahih hadith or are you just passing your point of veiw trying to make islam Look like something it isnt. Which one is it. and if it is to learn then ask the scholors there they can assist you. otherwise what can we do for you here? What is your purpose?
@MegaBoxer77 uuuuhh you wont get the same response because there is a knowledge difference. Scholors are more educated than us. otherwise we would all bescholors, its like thinking that every christian is a preist.
@MegaBoxer77 OOOHHHH i get it know! and i was saying there is something strange about this guy. So you are gay, and wish for a Muslim to convince you to be straight. Well even animals arnt doing what gay people do. that is disgusting, you will catch many diseases. it is unnatural. I hope this advice will make you change your mind about being Gay and i hope i have set you straight.
Actually, in America, the term "can you set me straight?" means, "can you get me to understand what you want me to believe on a certain subject?" And, no, I'm not a gay...even though I lived in the Bay Area and had a gay childhood friend.
@MegaBoxer77 thats not what you said you said u want to be set straight doesnt that imply that you gay.. well if your not gay then why do you want some muslim to make you straight.? bay ryhms with Gay. must be gay town. you need to get out of there firstly. if you want to be straight........ You see everybody can do what your doing. but it wouldnt be the honest thing to do. Be truthfull and understand the context of things before jumping on the band wagon.
Well, even if I WAS gay, are you saying that you think I was saying I wanted you to turn me Muslim to keep from BEING gay? I think you need to re-read my original question. Or, are you taqqiya-ing to avoid the question I asked with "set me straight"?
@MegaBoxer77 im no exactly what context you where saying it in. but i wanted to make a point, using your words, acting like you. You see when you take things out of context they sound bad, but when they are in context you see that what you are saying and what i interpret it as are two completely different things. So be nice be polite and be a true seeker of truth otherwise i will ignore you. or keep taking you out of context.
people open the quran, unsincearly, they find a verse, they believe that they have somesort of evidence daming islam. then the answer is given to them or they are pointed in the direction of it. then they ignore it and move on to another verse. like seriously.no wonder a scholer once said, i have never debated with a knowledgable person, accept that i has won the debate, and i have never debated with an ignorent person accept that i have lost the debate.
@MegaBoxer77 no it happens with always with insincere people. they even treat the own book the same way, take christians for example. i am God worship me. yet people worship Jesus as if he were a Diety, when he clearly states he is not.this is an unsincere aproach by the christians. thats why they eat pork thats why they consume alcohol. even in there churches.when there book clearly says Do not do these things.they make it a religious ritual to do so. insincere thats what it is.
Where does it say in the Book (Bible), to NOT drink? It just says to not get drunk. Also, in the Injil, things change with Peter, and, one is NOT defiled by what goes into your mouth, but, what comes out (words, possibly).
@MegaBoxer77 there are at least 75 verses in the bible in regards to alcohol in such as genisis, proverbs,isaiah,jerimiah, ezekial, danial, hosea, joal, amos, Micah, nahum, habakkuk, mather, luke, roamns, corrinthians, galatians,Ephesians,Thessalonians,titus,peter,timothy, just to name a few. i believe that they do say whay your saying but they also say to stay away from it completely. the quran has references to alcohol as well. and the final is it is forbiden.
If you read the Hadith, it sounded like there was a time alcohol was ok for awhile within Islam. NOW it sounds like it's only ok to drink booze in Jenna if you die trying to obey, say, Quran 9:111.
@MegaBoxer77 it was not forbiden that is correct, because the quran was revealed over a period of 23 years and not all at once. this would have been a very heavy for the muslims of that time if everything was revealed over night. So at first alcohol was not completely forbiden, but ibadah was forbiden if you where intoxicated. if we where to see this in use today. it would be for the transgressing Muslim, if they where to drink alcohol then they would not be able to pray or fast.
Sounds kind of like the Bible then. You are able to drink UNLESS it "causes your brother to stumble", or, if you become drunk. The Bible is against drunkeness.
@MegaBoxer77 actually a good book for you if you can find the english translation, is "EL ESAS FI 'T" TEVSIR. that is a quranic verse explainer, of context. So it explains what the verses mean in context. there is also one for the hadith. if you can get your hands on this book let me know as well i will be searching for them. my father in law has the turkish version. and i found the explination oif the verse you brought up b4. i think it was 10:94. if you are in doubt about what we reveal 2 thee
What do you think Quran 10:94 is all about? It sounds like the Bible is NOT corrupted being that it command Muhammad (supposedly), to go to those who have read the "before Scriptures" (Bible?), IF he's in doubt about the Quran.
@MegaBoxer77 For proper understanding God revealed the verses as required. now we require all of them. then they didnt require the law about war because they werent in war for 14 years. Besides they werent ready, for some things. but we can see that today as well, some women embrqace islam and arent ready to change there clothing. but it is better to build faith slow and strong rather than fast and flimsy. understand why you do what you do so when some one comes along they cannot shake you.
@MegaBoxer77 you can understand it like that if you like, but i dont think i make it sound that way at all, It is God who knows best what is required when. and the challenge is there for 1400 years and still standing. If Man wrote this, then produce one like it. and if it where other than Allah who Revealed this Quran you would find in in many contradictions. needless to say we see books written by man and how they have in them many contradictions.
Not so. I just found another contradiction in it yesterday, when, according to the Quran, NO one (man nor jinn), can create a Quran (recitation), yet, Satan (a jinn in Islam), was able to get Muhammad to give worship to the three daughters of Allah (Satanic verses), AND, Umar (a human), was able to make his OWN Quran beFORE the Quran was "handed down". Behold:
1. I said,"O Allah's Apostle, I wish we took the station of Abraham as our praying place (for some of our prayers). So came the Divine Inspiration: And take you (people) the station of Abraham as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers e.g. two Rakat of Tawaf of Ka'ba)". (2.125)
2. And as regards the (verse of) the veiling of the women, I said, '
I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I wish you ordered your wives to cover themselves from the men because good and bad ones talk to them.' So the verse of the veiling of the women was revealed.
3. Once the wives of the Prophet made a united front against the Prophet and I said to them, 'It may be if he (the Prophet) divorced you, (all) that his Lord (Allah) will give him instead of you wives better than you.' So this verse (the same as I had said) was revealed." (66.5).
@MegaBoxer77 and can you bring me word for word evidence? no? i didnt think so. we Know about umar he was a great man and a gr8 companion, i already told you when situations would arise, God would send the decree on the situation.
@MegaBoxer77 did i say that where?? i know jesus asked you to be a serpent devil, but just for a second stop. open your eyes man. The only revelations are to Muhammed pbuh. they used to call umar , Umar faruk, faruk meaning one who distinguishes between right and wrong.
Narrated 'Umar (bin Al-Khattab)...ah, is THIS Muhammad?:
"My Lord agreed with me in three things: 1. I said,"O Allah's Apostle (Muhammad is talking in the third person about himself? Is he schizophrenic here?), "I wish we took the station of Abraham as our praying place (for some of our prayers)."
"So came the Divine Inspiration: And take you (people) the station of Abraham as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers e.g. two Rakat of Tawaf of Ka'ba)". (2.125)
2. And as regards the (verse of) the veiling of the women, I said, (who? Umar or Umar Muhammad? DID Muhammad do the sayings as WELL as the Quran)?
"I said, 'O Allah's Apostle!" (what? Is Muhammad talking to himself?) "I wish you ordered your wives to cover themselves from the men because good and bad ones talk to them.' So the verse of the veiling of the women was revealed." (Again, is this Muhammad talking to himself by calling himself "Umar"? So, Mr. (pbuh) was schizophrenic? I thought he just had epilepsy.
"3. Once the wives of the Prophet made a united front against the Prophet (again, Muhammad talking about himself in the third person?) and I said to them (Muhammad AS Muhammad, or, as Umar?), 'It may be if he (the Prophet) (really sounds like Muhammad is schizo here IF this is as you say, Muhammad) "divorced you, (all) that his Lord (Allah) will give him instead of you wives better than you.' So this verse (the same as I had said) was revealed." (66.5)." Ah SURE this is Mo?
@MegaBoxer77 Go to your scripture, ur going to have no eye left, take the plank of wood from your own eye first. what does it say in deuteronamy 18:15-22
what do the isrealites ask for and then god says he is happy with this? So was the isrealites making there own torah here?? take the plank of wood fromn your eye you hypocryt. you see i prove a point to you evenb with your own book. LOL ,MegaBoxer epic fail.
And how can Deuteronomy be talking about the Muhammad? The same Deuteronomy you quote says that IF someone is wrong in ONE prophecy, they are a false prophet. Do you think Mr. (pbuh) got ALL his prophecies correct? Be truthful now.
@MegaBoxer77 Those who harass believing men and believing women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) a calumny and a grievous sin. O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the wives of true believers that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) That is most convenient, that they may be distinguished and not be harassed. [...] (Qur'an 33:58–59)
@MegaBoxer77 its got to do with what umar was asking god for clarification on. because the men where checking these women out i and harrassing them. This is the whole issue with regards to the hadith you pointed out where Umar says that God Agreed with him on 3 points one being the veiling of women.
@MegaBoxer77 And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their scarves [khimar] over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to [...] (Qur'an 24:31). now if we look at these verses. we will see Allahs Words are much better than umars,2.if we listen to them in arabic, we would hear the difference,
@MegaBoxer77 all your really telling me is that umar made a dua, a prayer and God accepted it. this does not mean that umar revealed the quran. and infact if we go to the quran about these particulars you wont find it word for word. lets take this into account, God says, abraham, said such and such, and moses said such and such, and jesus said such and such, would we claim that these prophets on whome be peice revealed the quran? hardly
@MegaBoxer77 no not what he said. but he wished/ preyed that it would be compulsery for women to wear the veil. for the various resons given previously. and God sent revelation which included the veiling of women but there is more detail to it,
you have the hadith, and there are the verses above, you tell me if they are exactly alike, or even similer
@MegaBoxer77 hmmm serious get some serious arguments that have some weight instead of reading anti sunni islamic propaganda. your arguments are false arguments not even worth the time to answer.non of what you say is in the quran. and umar is one of the rightly guided caliphs, so obviously what your reading is false and most probably written by a shia. they hold no proof just hatred because they believed that Ali on whom may be peace, should have been the first caliph. So no contradiction here.
@MegaBoxer77 like i said these satanic verses are a false accusation, the prophet pbuh did not say that the birds which the pegans worshiped would interceed on the day of judgement. this is total rubish. and in no way is it comparable to the truth of the Quran, if it is not Completely true how can it even begin to be compaired to the quran
@MegaBoxer77 Satanic verses are not in the quran so we will not even answer this. there is not point it has been refuted, and proven to be a false accusation
@MegaBoxer77 and Scientific knowledge is found in the quran, that could not have been known at the time. only the Creator of that science would know that.
Oh, I'm sure Mr. Muhammad got SOME stuff right, but, does the sun and moon "swim in an orbit" around the earth? CAN you go to the moon (midst of the zones), and NOT be attacked by the retrograde stars (planets), IF you don't "seek authority first)? ARE the sun and moon "traveling in vessils similar to their offsrping Noah (see Quran 36:40-43)? And, HOW does a solar eclipse accord, according to Muhammad? See Tabari and find out.
@MegaBoxer77 ok lets see what the quran says about the sun and moon."And He who made the night for rest and sun and moon for reckoning of time. This is the decree of the Exalted, the All-knowing." (6:96)."Allah is He, who created the sun, the moon, and the stars (all) governed by laws under His commandment." (7:54)."The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year)(9:36-37).
@MegaBoxer77 and the sun and moon definitly do swim in an orbit, however the quran never says that the sun swims around the earth. it just says umong other things that the sun spins around its axis, it also states that it is swimining in a n orbit toward final resting place if i am not mistaken.. the orbit is rounded. which is true of the sun it swims around the milkyway.it has an orbit which would take 200 billion yrs to complete. what a miracle what a miracle.la ilahe il Allah
@MegaBoxer77 the word is iqra , which means read, recite, repeat, Which that is why on the third occassion when Jibril held him and squeezed him, he asked what shal i read. he understood it first as read as in the way we would read a book. but we know that he wasnt given a book, So we must then understand that the word was being used also for the other meaning it holds which is to recite, repeat.
@MegaBoxer77 i just told you, it is the first revelation of tghe quran which is Surah Al Alaq. Jibril is also known in islam as Ruhul Kudus, or holy spirit. interesting in our understandings, you understand the holy spirit which came to mary as God, and we understand it as the messenger Angel, Jibril. that is Gabriels task as an angel. a messenger between God and his selected servents.
@MegaBoxer77 no we dont accept your idea that mary on whome be peace was in a
sexual act with GOd or other wise spiritual or physical. then where is the virgine birth in that? jibril was a messenger bringing glad tidings to Mary, God said be and Jesus was. Kun ve ye kun.God says be and it is, that is all go needs to say. jibril simply a messenger of good news
@MegaBoxer77 Look i wanna get the record straight, there is no mention of Maryam ever being engaged or married according to the quran or any other islamic documentary, this is totally a christian fabrication. how ever. i can only speak to you in regards to you in terms of the bible because you take that to be true. if Mary was married before jesus' birth and after would he is know as the father? How can you claim a virgin birth? especially that the bible affirms that Joseph was jesus father.
According to the Bible, when you have sex, you become one flesh. It seems that Mary and Joseph would become one flesh later AFTER Jesus was born. After all, Mary had MORE than just Jesus. It's only Catholics who try to believe Mary is a perpetual virgin.
@MegaBoxer77 would it be right, for the education system to give advanced math to a preschooler? of course not there is a time for everthing. and even for us as our kids get older, they have until puberty to make up there minds. after that there record begins. even for us, i get educated as i go along, i dont know everything there is to know about islam. i have a over all concept of everything but i only know in depth some of them.i lack in fikh issues but not in faith issues.
But, again, the Quran is completed. First you have the Quran coming around for when it's supposed to be needed, and, now you don't, for it's completed.
@MegaBoxer77 Yes that is because know it is All nessecary. in our life. there are many many more muslims, as apose to a handfull in the first years of the quran. as i said, as incidents occured the quran was revealed. So know that All the possible incidences have occured. it is complete. So in your life there what ever incidences you may come accross Islam has the remedy
According to Islam, well, Bukhari and Muslim Hadith, Muhammad said that if you eat seven ajwa dates in the morning, you will be protected ALL day from both magic and poison. Also, black cumin cures ALL diseases accept death. But, do you believe those Sahih sayings?
@MegaBoxer77 give me reference numbers, and i will look them up, people have a habit of changing word around or missing words or missing the rest of sentences. So i need to have a look at the hadith, and question the context it has been used in. and to whome. and why. You see the prophet wouldnt just say something just for the sake of saying it, some one must have asked him about something. and he would have given such an answer as to answer there question.
All you have to do is type into your web browser "Muhammad said, 'eating seven ajwa dates in the morning will protect you all day from both magic and poison"", and, it will take you to those Sahih Hadiths.
@MegaBoxer77 it seems you are the one affraid of doing some quranic exergisis. you just blurt things out with out thinkings out. and it is said to me when a fasiq brings you some news, first check for its reliability. know you got this hadith from some where, do you want me to take ten years to find it, or wouldnt you rather give me a referance? what have you got to hide? other wise lets just go on making things up how are we to know what weight to hold to things?
What Hadith have I presented do you not think to be authentic or fabricated? The dates? The devil sleeping in your nose at night? Muhammad saying the sun has to "ask permission to RISE again" (when it should be the earth constantly asking permssion to 'keep on rotating')? Water NOT being defiled only in taste, smell, and color? WHICH of those Hadiths do you find to NOT be true?
And, it was ambiguous. So, you don't believe in Muhammad's talk of the dates, the sun asking permission to rise, and, water only being defiled in taste, smell and color? If so, that is a good start.
@MegaBoxer77 about the waters we have a volume just about water in islam, and permissible water and non permissible water, these writtings have taken into consideration the hadiths and the Quran. So i cant copy paste a whole volume pages upon pages about the topic of water. but mashallah you think you can answer everything with one hadith.
Oh, I bet you CAN post page and page about water, especially if I post the things Muhammad says about water that are very short and to the point. Which is that water can't be defiled, only in taste, smell and color, to the point where EVEN if dead dogs and stinky stuff is in it, it can STILL be used for ablution, and, STILL can be used to drink even IF it has a dead donkey in the pond from where the water is taken from. Want me to post?
16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved ; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. 17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed : in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues ; 18 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover ."
meshine22 4 months ago
@meshine22
I bet you think I don't believe in this part of the Injil, true? I do believe in it, being that Qur'an 5:68 tells me I have no ground to stand upon, unLESS I stand firm upon the Injil.
RammatRamzi 4 months ago
@RammatRamzi Don't be ridiculous YOUR BIBLE ARE WRITTEN BY A LIER ( ST.PAUL) IF YOU WANT TO TRY IF YOUR BIBLE IS TELLING THE TRUTH, HAHAH.. NOW YOU CAN DRINK POISON?????? LOL, HAHA I THINK YOU ARE INSANE. GO PSYCHIATRIC CONSULTATION DUDES.
meshine22 1 month ago
Again, the Bible is not MY book. If you read the Qur'an (which calls itself "clear signs"), the Bible is ALLAH'S book that is "confirms PREVIOUS scriptures" (Bible). That the Bible is the "Book" that makes "People of the Book", and, according to Qur'an 5:68 is something Jews and Christians are to "stand FIRM upon". Or, what is the Taurat and Injil IF they aren't a part of the "Book" (Bible)? Still, sounds like you don't believe Mo about the dates, DO you? :)
RammatRamzi 1 month ago
@RammatRamzi Sir, the BIBLE IS A COMPILATION BOOK NOT A BOOK OF REVELATION. BTW WHO IS YOUR GOD, IS'T JESUS? JESUS AND GOD ARE ONE?
meshine22 1 month ago
@meshine22
Yeah, pretty much, because the Injil's John 1:1 doesn't make sense if Jesus and God aren't the same One God. By the way, IF the Injil is NOT the New Testament, then WHERE is that Injil Qur'an 5:68 tells Christians to "stand FIRM upon"? :)
RammatRamzi 1 month ago
16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved ; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. 17 "These signs will accompany those who have believed : in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues ; 18 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover ."
meshine22 4 months ago
@meshine22
Sounds like something from the Injil a Person of the Book is commanded in Qur'an 5:68 to stand firm upon.
RammatRamzi 4 months ago
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@rammatramzi
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manidontgiveafuck 6 months ago
After all these lies and media propaganda against muslims and how they portraits them, people are still converting to islam after realizing the truth and that proves what Allah has said in his mightiest book:
"And let not those grieve you (O Muhammad SAW) who rush with haste to disbelieve; verily, not the least harm will they do to Allah. It is Allah's Will to give them no portion in the Hereafter. For them there is a great torment."
Qur'an 3:176
muhsin khan translation
Dboy61073 10 months ago
@Dboy61073
Does not the Quran say that Allah wills on and off the right path as He pleases? If so, it's not the fault of the one who is not a Muslim.
RammatRamzi 10 months ago
@RammatRamzi
Allah extends provision for whom He wills and restricts [it]. And they rejoice in the worldly life, while the worldly life is not, compared to the Hereafter, except [brief] enjoyment.
And those who disbelieved say, "Why has a sign not been sent down to him from his Lord?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, Allah leaves astray whom He wills and guides to Himself whoever turns back [to Him] -
Qur'an 13:26-27
here's your answer.
Dboy61073 10 months ago
@RammatRamzi
cause it doesn't rain money or food on people.
you work and other people work aswell, and you get paid differently based on what you are doing and how you do it.
so do you think god will guide you to the right path while you keep trying to twist his words and telling lies based on ignorancy and hate ?
be reasonable.
Dboy61073 10 months ago
@Dboy61073
How am I ignorant and hateful? Again, what does "Allah guides on or off the right path as He pleases" mean to you?
RammatRamzi 10 months ago
@RammatRamzi
Ok then, concentrate and understand.
At first, god doesn't control what you believe, you have free will to choose what to believe and what not, because if god controlled our beliefs it would be unjust for us to be judged and god is never unjust to the people.
(Whoever does righteousness - it is for his [own] soul; and whoever does evil [does so] against it. And your Lord is not ever unjust to [His] servants.)
Qur'an 41:46
i will continue in another comment.
Dboy61073 10 months ago
@RammatRamzi
Read the first comment if you haven't read it yet.
God shows the way and the people choose to accept or refuse.
(And as for Thamud, We guided them, but they preferred blindness over guidance, so the thunderbolt of humiliating punishment seized them for what they used to earn.)
Qur'an 41:17
so "we guided them" doesn't mean (we made them believe) it means we (showed them the right path), but they refused and chose what they liked, and "blindness over guidance" proves it.
Dboy61073 10 months ago
@Dboy61073
So, it's "We (Allah) SHOW on and off the right path as We please" NOT "guide"? You aren't taqqiya-ing here are you?
RammatRamzi 10 months ago
@RammatRamzi
You don't even know arabic, and arabic is my native language and that's why i understand the Qur'an more than you will ever do, cause i read the Qur'an in the main language of it, while you read from translations.
Dboy61073 10 months ago
@Dboy61073
If so, then it IS "We (Allah) SHOW on and off the right path as We Please", or, is it "We guide on and off the right path"? Which is it in the original Arabic?
RammatRamzi 10 months ago
8 Muslims used Taqqiya and disliked this video ^_^
chrstilen5 11 months ago
I HAVE THE REAL ANSWER!
Islam has declered all non-islamic part of world to be at war.
That means all parts of the world exept for Islam-states. is where you are allowed to lie. And this makes it prety clear. Although you can stil lie to your friends and falime in the Islamic-state.
chrstilen5 11 months ago
dawg what are u talking about i just read both of the verses !!!!!!!!!!!! the word lie is not even written lol guys go and check yourselves ..but these kind of videos just make my beleif stronger ....god says that the bad people who don t beleive and those who are hypocrits when they see our signs or verses they are lile blind ....acturally in the quran if u see something and u pretend that u didn t it s a sin go read yourselves plz peace
nba2133 1 year ago
dawg what are u talking about i just read both of the verses !!!!!!!!!!!! the word lie is not even written
nba2133 1 year ago
@nba2133
No, it's just inferred.
RammatRamzi 10 months ago
taqqiya is only used when your life is in danger, for your belief in God! .. in the past Muslims were killed just for believing in God and following Islam!! so when they were told to stop believing or convert to another religion then taqqiya was used, so they lied and said they will stop believing in Islam... but as long as they did not stop believing with there hearts then they were still Muslim.. but lying is a big sin in Islam! so please don't spread lies, when you have no knowledge of it.
TheMercifulServant 1 year ago
@TheMercifulServant
Sounds like Muslims aren't only allowed to lie if they feel their life is in danger, but, they are allowed if just "under compulsion", AND, they HAVE to lie when around Christians and Jews, because if they tell the truth, that they HAVE taken Christians and Jews as friends and helpers, then they are cut off from Allah (see Qur'an 3:28).
RammatRamzi 1 year ago 2
@RammatRamzi
You don't understand what ur saying, it's so simple
لَا يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِنْ دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
the word ( أَوْلِيَاءَ ) means in arabic (rulers, parents, someone that looks after)
so it means in muslim communities we can't take a jew or a christian as a caliph or a president to rule the nation.
and (Taqqiyy) means in arabic (Pious, Devout, Religious) so go to school before talking about Islam.
Dboy61073 10 months ago
@Dboy61073
And that's not taqqiya on your part for saying that?
RammatRamzi 10 months ago
@RammatRamzi
What is taqqiya ? is it a book or some rules ? and where did u get it from ?
the only guides for the muslim is the Qur'an and the Sunna.
Dboy61073 10 months ago
what kind of question is this, get more information before asking such a dumb question. We cannot lie to friends / enemies, lying is wrong and its a sin. Where did you bring this misinterpreted sht from? Dude get your facts straight before making a fool out of yourself.. dont reply back to me with some 'vague translation' of the quran, give me the arabic verse, im a native speaker and i have never heard of the crap you just said.
CodeSatoru 1 year ago
@CodeSatoru
You're not taqqiya-ing are you? I mean, you DON'T believe "war is deceit"? You DON'T believe Qur'an 16:106 and 3:28? Well, may you continue to believe that lying is ONLY to protect your life and NOT to spread Islam with taqqiya.
RammatRamzi 1 year ago
@RammatRamzi im not a muslim so i have no idea what you're talking about, taqqiya what? i just come from a muslim family, and i was taught explicitly not to lie and all the other morales etc. to me it seemed you was trying to misinterpret a verse that says muslims should 'lie', if im wrong then i apologize. peace.
CodeSatoru 1 year ago
@CodeSatoru
You're not Muslim, but, your FAMILY is? What was it that seperated you from your family in belief? Do they know about Qur'an 18:74-81, or, are they Muslim in name only? I have a feeling that most Muslims are Muslim in name only so they don't pay the jizyah, or else.
RammatRamzi 1 year ago
@RammatRamzi What? So we don't pay ? o.o... No, i was born in England, they try and educate me about the religion but i refuse to believe in paranormal. They haven't given up and i'm taking the good ideals and morales from the religion, im considering reading the Quran one day. Why are you trying to ruin the image of islam by saying we have to pay some sort of fee lol?
CodeSatoru 1 year ago
@CodeSatoru
Well, when Sharia Law is imposed, it sounds like you HAVE to be Muslim, or, have no insurance that you won't be attacked after sacred months are passed (Qur'an 9:1-5 and 29) UNLESS you pay the jizyah tax with willing submission. By the way, instead of reading the Qur'an, you should STUDY the Qur'an.
RammatRamzi 1 year ago
Christians and Muslims !@#$
drksddn 1 year ago
this rammazat ramazinian, is a christian, who i feel isnt after the truth, he is after one less knowledgable muslim to make a wrong statement then to use that to further fuel his fire. But there is enough fire for him unless he repents and seeks the truth with an open heart. instead of another having another agenda. what a silly thing to be doing and a complete wqaste of time for himslef, if he wasnt doing this for true knowledge and seeking the truth. He likes to bend and twist verses.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
What verses have I bent and twisted? Can you some examples, please?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 When you state a verse and say this means such and such what do you have to say about that, your bending the verse in your question when you think your giving the meaning of it. to you your question is retorical. Your not asking your stating your veiw in the form of a question. and your veiw is wrong.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
So, when I say "isn't Quran 5:68 saying a Christian to stand firm upon the Torah and Injil, isn't that saying he's supposed to stand firm upon the Bible?" that's the wrong question to ask? When I ask, "when Quran 10:94 tells YOU, a Muslim/Muhammad, to go to those who have read the before Scriptures IF they are in doubt about the Quran", that IS, or, is that not, a bad question to ask?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
whos translation of the meaning of the quran are these from. You need to understand when and why this revelation was sent. so you need to reseach this from reputable scholors. and ask what does this verse mean. then when you get your answer not to keep saying but it says stand firm with the bible, and the bible says that Jesus is God. The Injil was Gods revelation, and that is the revelation it refers to, not to revelation created by men which most parts of the bible are today.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
If so, then why obey 10:94? IF it's NOT the Bible is 10:94, then WHAT are the "before Scriptures" and WHAT is the "Book" that makes "People of the Book"?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 whats the point in giving you the answer when you are going to ignore it.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Well, try me, ok?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 if your not the same person as Rammaramzi i apologise. hes the one that does that
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Does what?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 does what i was mistakingly accusing you of doing.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 well it may sound like the bible in english. but the Quran , being complete does not allow you to drink at all. what i was saying was, because it is a revelation which was revealed over 23 years. the first revelation about alcohol was basicly saying do not pray whilst intoxicated. but when later on as revelations came down, it was totally banned.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 Do christians differ on the issue of alcohol, in christianity? because i have alot of christian friends that tell me that it is not allowed, but they still do it. did you say that peters verse in the bible, basically abrogates all the other 74 verses in the bible about alcohol and its being forbiden? and did you say that peter says one is not defiled by what goes into your mouth. interesting.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@RammatRamzi u're supposed to tell the truth every time and in everything u say every thing u actually pronouce is recorded that what we believe in islam.
according to prophet in time of war but that's another thing.
u cant ask muslims when they can lie but in the mean time they are taught to say the the truth always, your interpretation is false, ur question should be to a muslim council scientist (just send them e-mail) not to simple muslim cause beyond our level of expertise as muslims.
kevinkoven 1 year ago
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@kevinkoven
Can you tell the difference between a Muslim who is peaceful, against lying, and, believes jihad is ONLY "inner struggle", from a Muslim who believes fighting in the cause of Allah IS fighting in the cause of Allah, using a weapon to kill? Especially when Muhammad said "war is deceit"? CAN you tell the difference?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
People who believe every single Muslim follows everything in the Koran are insane.
PersoAryanism 1 year ago
@PersoAryanism
The fact that not every Muslim is at our throat in an effort to get virgins is proof that you are right.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 this is one disttasteful comment for instance
JEMOMER 1 year ago
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MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Well, WHY aren't all Muslims at the throats of non-Muslims? Why aren't ALL Muslims trying to follow Quran 9:111?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 because all muslims dont take the verses out of context, they understand when and why to use them
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
oh boy...u know i just postet a giant article that i wrote myself about the death penalty for aspostasy....after a few hours, i guess when the blog masters recognized it..it was a muslim bog, they erased everything i wrote..
no explanation, no response ...nothing
typical muslim style
im tired of this shit
Serpico261 1 year ago
@Serpico261
HOPEFULLY you had it in your computer before you put it on the net!
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@Serpico261 You need to follow that verse in context as well. because not everybody in every time is to be killed for apostacy. you need to understand it in context and the explination is more than 400 charachters long
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Can you simplify it and make it understandable WITHOUT any kind of taqqiya?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@Serpico261 i dont know what you refering to but the penalty for apostacy is not always death. This law needs to be looked at in islamic books of fikh with hadith references. maybe you should take a different approach, maybe you approach is the problem. Maybe.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Such as? Well, how?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
to the person posting this video. if you truelly want answers to this question, you should be getting answers from the right people. these are imams. 4 of the most popular imams are imam hanifi, imam shafi,imam hambeli, imam maliki. these are the schools of thought which almost all muslims follow one of. known as fikh.when trying to understand a particular verse from the quran, one must look at , when the verse was revealed,why,what are the authentic hadiths about the topic.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER if this rule wasnt allowed in islam for lying during war, this would be a possible senario... a muslim soldier is captured and is asked," where are the rest of you comrads hiding, and when and where will they attack from." and the muslim will say there are 2000 of us and they are just over that hill over there and they will strike at 0500 hrs... know tell me does that sound like a good idea? or would it have been better for his people if he were allowed to lie in that curcumstance?
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER second senario to lie is when you want to bring peace between 2 people... imagine not lying. lets say John said some terrible things about micheal and that he felt like beating him. and then micheal asked you what john thought of him. would you say well he swore at you behind your back and wants to kick your head in, or would you say rather he said nothing.even though you knew..even though it would be lying.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER third senario.lying to ones wife for the benifit of the marriage. imagine not being allowed to lie for this one.haha disaster. after several years of marriage, your wife who has had a few kids and packed on the kilo's, wears a new dress she brought,shes got her celulite all over flabby stomach from babies and developed a lazy eye. and she asks you do you think i look beautifull. would you say the truth, if so please post her response on youtube.haha lol
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER in all this permissibility is actually all good. and anyone who thinks otherwise, is a lunatic
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Can you tell the difference between a Muslim who is peaceful, against lying, and, believes jihad is ONLY "inner struggle", from a Muslim who believes fighting in the cause of Allah IS fighting in the cause of Allah, using a weapon to kill? Especially when Muhammad said "war is deceit"? CAN you tell the difference?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 when quating a hadith use references please because we cannot take hadith as narrated by meggabxer77 to be authentic. Secondly, yes inner struggle is a jihad of the nefs. and war is also a Jihad as long as it is complies with the Quran and the hadith. and there are many other forms of Jihad. For instance the stuggle to feed your family. the Struggle to be patient when you are being oppressed. the Stuggle to stand up for that which is truth. and many more.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
All you have to do is type into your web browser "Muhammad, 'war is deceit'", and it will take you to the Hadith in question. By the way, HOW can you tell a peaceful "inner struggle" Muslim from one who believes the world is divided between war and peace, and anything NOT under dar al Islam, is the abode of war where lying and deceit for Allah can take place?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 why dont you Go to the chatislam site that i told you about and ask your question. are you interested in islam to learn about the correct way , of the meanings of the holy Quran and sahih hadith or are you just passing your point of veiw trying to make islam Look like something it isnt. Which one is it. and if it is to learn then ask the scholors there they can assist you. otherwise what can we do for you here? What is your purpose?
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
How will I not get the same responses there, like I get here?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 uuuuhh you wont get the same response because there is a knowledge difference. Scholors are more educated than us. otherwise we would all bescholors, its like thinking that every christian is a preist.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Don't you believe Allah COULD have a smart Muslim on YouTube to set me straight?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 OOOHHHH i get it know! and i was saying there is something strange about this guy. So you are gay, and wish for a Muslim to convince you to be straight. Well even animals arnt doing what gay people do. that is disgusting, you will catch many diseases. it is unnatural. I hope this advice will make you change your mind about being Gay and i hope i have set you straight.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Actually, in America, the term "can you set me straight?" means, "can you get me to understand what you want me to believe on a certain subject?" And, no, I'm not a gay...even though I lived in the Bay Area and had a gay childhood friend.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 thats not what you said you said u want to be set straight doesnt that imply that you gay.. well if your not gay then why do you want some muslim to make you straight.? bay ryhms with Gay. must be gay town. you need to get out of there firstly. if you want to be straight........ You see everybody can do what your doing. but it wouldnt be the honest thing to do. Be truthfull and understand the context of things before jumping on the band wagon.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Well, even if I WAS gay, are you saying that you think I was saying I wanted you to turn me Muslim to keep from BEING gay? I think you need to re-read my original question. Or, are you taqqiya-ing to avoid the question I asked with "set me straight"?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 im no exactly what context you where saying it in. but i wanted to make a point, using your words, acting like you. You see when you take things out of context they sound bad, but when they are in context you see that what you are saying and what i interpret it as are two completely different things. So be nice be polite and be a true seeker of truth otherwise i will ignore you. or keep taking you out of context.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
What do you think I'm taking out of context?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
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@MegaBoxer77 "Don't you believe Allah COULD have a smart Muslim on YouTube to set me straight?" ......... i already answered this question.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
people open the quran, unsincearly, they find a verse, they believe that they have somesort of evidence daming islam. then the answer is given to them or they are pointed in the direction of it. then they ignore it and move on to another verse. like seriously.no wonder a scholer once said, i have never debated with a knowledgable person, accept that i has won the debate, and i have never debated with an ignorent person accept that i have lost the debate.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
I bet you think this ONLY happens with the Quran, true?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 no it happens with always with insincere people. they even treat the own book the same way, take christians for example. i am God worship me. yet people worship Jesus as if he were a Diety, when he clearly states he is not.this is an unsincere aproach by the christians. thats why they eat pork thats why they consume alcohol. even in there churches.when there book clearly says Do not do these things.they make it a religious ritual to do so. insincere thats what it is.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Where does it say in the Book (Bible), to NOT drink? It just says to not get drunk. Also, in the Injil, things change with Peter, and, one is NOT defiled by what goes into your mouth, but, what comes out (words, possibly).
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 there are at least 75 verses in the bible in regards to alcohol in such as genisis, proverbs,isaiah,jerimiah, ezekial, danial, hosea, joal, amos, Micah, nahum, habakkuk, mather, luke, roamns, corrinthians, galatians,Ephesians,Thessalonians,titus,peter,timothy, just to name a few. i believe that they do say whay your saying but they also say to stay away from it completely. the quran has references to alcohol as well. and the final is it is forbiden.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
If you read the Hadith, it sounded like there was a time alcohol was ok for awhile within Islam. NOW it sounds like it's only ok to drink booze in Jenna if you die trying to obey, say, Quran 9:111.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 it was not forbiden that is correct, because the quran was revealed over a period of 23 years and not all at once. this would have been a very heavy for the muslims of that time if everything was revealed over night. So at first alcohol was not completely forbiden, but ibadah was forbiden if you where intoxicated. if we where to see this in use today. it would be for the transgressing Muslim, if they where to drink alcohol then they would not be able to pray or fast.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Sounds kind of like the Bible then. You are able to drink UNLESS it "causes your brother to stumble", or, if you become drunk. The Bible is against drunkeness.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 actually a good book for you if you can find the english translation, is "EL ESAS FI 'T" TEVSIR. that is a quranic verse explainer, of context. So it explains what the verses mean in context. there is also one for the hadith. if you can get your hands on this book let me know as well i will be searching for them. my father in law has the turkish version. and i found the explination oif the verse you brought up b4. i think it was 10:94. if you are in doubt about what we reveal 2 thee
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
What do you think Quran 10:94 is all about? It sounds like the Bible is NOT corrupted being that it command Muhammad (supposedly), to go to those who have read the "before Scriptures" (Bible?), IF he's in doubt about the Quran.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Are you SURE it would be too heavy to be revealed all at once? I mean, IF you come to Islam, well, there is the Quran, all in it's completion.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 For proper understanding God revealed the verses as required. now we require all of them. then they didnt require the law about war because they werent in war for 14 years. Besides they werent ready, for some things. but we can see that today as well, some women embrqace islam and arent ready to change there clothing. but it is better to build faith slow and strong rather than fast and flimsy. understand why you do what you do so when some one comes along they cannot shake you.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
The way you explain it, it makes it sound like Muhammad created the Quran for the needed time.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 you can understand it like that if you like, but i dont think i make it sound that way at all, It is God who knows best what is required when. and the challenge is there for 1400 years and still standing. If Man wrote this, then produce one like it. and if it where other than Allah who Revealed this Quran you would find in in many contradictions. needless to say we see books written by man and how they have in them many contradictions.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
I bet you feel the Quran is contradiction free, true?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 Yes
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Yes? Yes to what?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 yes the quran is Contradiction Free
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Not so. I just found another contradiction in it yesterday, when, according to the Quran, NO one (man nor jinn), can create a Quran (recitation), yet, Satan (a jinn in Islam), was able to get Muhammad to give worship to the three daughters of Allah (Satanic verses), AND, Umar (a human), was able to make his OWN Quran beFORE the Quran was "handed down". Behold:
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 395
Narrated 'Umar (bin Al-Khattab):
My Lord agreed with me in three things:
1. I said,"O Allah's Apostle, I wish we took the station of Abraham as our praying place (for some of our prayers). So came the Divine Inspiration: And take you (people) the station of Abraham as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers e.g. two Rakat of Tawaf of Ka'ba)". (2.125)
2. And as regards the (verse of) the veiling of the women, I said, '
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77
I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I wish you ordered your wives to cover themselves from the men because good and bad ones talk to them.' So the verse of the veiling of the women was revealed.
3. Once the wives of the Prophet made a united front against the Prophet and I said to them, 'It may be if he (the Prophet) divorced you, (all) that his Lord (Allah) will give him instead of you wives better than you.' So this verse (the same as I had said) was revealed." (66.5).
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77
See, even UMAR made a Quran (recitation), contradicting the Quran (recitation), that says MAN and JINN CAN'T create a Quran LIKE the Quran.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 and can you bring me word for word evidence? no? i didnt think so. we Know about umar he was a great man and a gr8 companion, i already told you when situations would arise, God would send the decree on the situation.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Oh, I see. You are saying Allah sent the Quran (a recitation) down to Umar as well?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 did i say that where?? i know jesus asked you to be a serpent devil, but just for a second stop. open your eyes man. The only revelations are to Muhammed pbuh. they used to call umar , Umar faruk, faruk meaning one who distinguishes between right and wrong.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Oh, so you are saying UMAR is Muhammad? Are you sure this is Muhammad and not someone else with the name of Umar?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
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Well, let's see if that makes sense, ok?
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 395
Narrated 'Umar (bin Al-Khattab)...ah, is THIS Muhammad?:
"My Lord agreed with me in three things: 1. I said,"O Allah's Apostle (Muhammad is talking in the third person about himself? Is he schizophrenic here?), "I wish we took the station of Abraham as our praying place (for some of our prayers)."
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77
"So came the Divine Inspiration: And take you (people) the station of Abraham as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers e.g. two Rakat of Tawaf of Ka'ba)". (2.125)
2. And as regards the (verse of) the veiling of the women, I said, (who? Umar or Umar Muhammad? DID Muhammad do the sayings as WELL as the Quran)?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77
"I said, 'O Allah's Apostle!" (what? Is Muhammad talking to himself?) "I wish you ordered your wives to cover themselves from the men because good and bad ones talk to them.' So the verse of the veiling of the women was revealed." (Again, is this Muhammad talking to himself by calling himself "Umar"? So, Mr. (pbuh) was schizophrenic? I thought he just had epilepsy.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77
"3. Once the wives of the Prophet made a united front against the Prophet (again, Muhammad talking about himself in the third person?) and I said to them (Muhammad AS Muhammad, or, as Umar?), 'It may be if he (the Prophet) (really sounds like Muhammad is schizo here IF this is as you say, Muhammad) "divorced you, (all) that his Lord (Allah) will give him instead of you wives better than you.' So this verse (the same as I had said) was revealed." (66.5)." Ah SURE this is Mo?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 Go to your scripture, ur going to have no eye left, take the plank of wood from your own eye first. what does it say in deuteronamy 18:15-22
what do the isrealites ask for and then god says he is happy with this? So was the isrealites making there own torah here?? take the plank of wood fromn your eye you hypocryt. you see i prove a point to you evenb with your own book. LOL ,MegaBoxer epic fail.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
And how can Deuteronomy be talking about the Muhammad? The same Deuteronomy you quote says that IF someone is wrong in ONE prophecy, they are a false prophet. Do you think Mr. (pbuh) got ALL his prophecies correct? Be truthful now.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 Those who harass believing men and believing women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) a calumny and a grievous sin. O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the wives of true believers that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) That is most convenient, that they may be distinguished and not be harassed. [...] (Qur'an 33:58–59)
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
And you are quoting that because...?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 its got to do with what umar was asking god for clarification on. because the men where checking these women out i and harrassing them. This is the whole issue with regards to the hadith you pointed out where Umar says that God Agreed with him on 3 points one being the veiling of women.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
And, Umar IS Muhammad, or, NOT Muhammad?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their scarves [khimar] over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to [...] (Qur'an 24:31). now if we look at these verses. we will see Allahs Words are much better than umars,2.if we listen to them in arabic, we would hear the difference,
JEMOMER 1 year ago
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@JEMOMER
And you are quoting this for?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 all your really telling me is that umar made a dua, a prayer and God accepted it. this does not mean that umar revealed the quran. and infact if we go to the quran about these particulars you wont find it word for word. lets take this into account, God says, abraham, said such and such, and moses said such and such, and jesus said such and such, would we claim that these prophets on whome be peice revealed the quran? hardly
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Is it not added to the Quran?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 no not what he said. but he wished/ preyed that it would be compulsery for women to wear the veil. for the various resons given previously. and God sent revelation which included the veiling of women but there is more detail to it,
you have the hadith, and there are the verses above, you tell me if they are exactly alike, or even similer
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
So, you are saying that it's NOT Quran, just something LIKE it, true?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 hmmm serious get some serious arguments that have some weight instead of reading anti sunni islamic propaganda. your arguments are false arguments not even worth the time to answer.non of what you say is in the quran. and umar is one of the rightly guided caliphs, so obviously what your reading is false and most probably written by a shia. they hold no proof just hatred because they believed that Ali on whom may be peace, should have been the first caliph. So no contradiction here.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
And the Satanic verses? Well, isn't Satan a jinn in Islam?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 like i said these satanic verses are a false accusation, the prophet pbuh did not say that the birds which the pegans worshiped would interceed on the day of judgement. this is total rubish. and in no way is it comparable to the truth of the Quran, if it is not Completely true how can it even begin to be compaired to the quran
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Birds? Where were the Satanic Verses dealing with birds?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 Satanic verses are not in the quran so we will not even answer this. there is not point it has been refuted, and proven to be a false accusation
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 and Scientific knowledge is found in the quran, that could not have been known at the time. only the Creator of that science would know that.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Oh, I'm sure Mr. Muhammad got SOME stuff right, but, does the sun and moon "swim in an orbit" around the earth? CAN you go to the moon (midst of the zones), and NOT be attacked by the retrograde stars (planets), IF you don't "seek authority first)? ARE the sun and moon "traveling in vessils similar to their offsrping Noah (see Quran 36:40-43)? And, HOW does a solar eclipse accord, according to Muhammad? See Tabari and find out.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 ok lets see what the quran says about the sun and moon."And He who made the night for rest and sun and moon for reckoning of time. This is the decree of the Exalted, the All-knowing." (6:96)."Allah is He, who created the sun, the moon, and the stars (all) governed by laws under His commandment." (7:54)."The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year)(9:36-37).
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Yeah, it says that, alright.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 and the sun and moon definitly do swim in an orbit, however the quran never says that the sun swims around the earth. it just says umong other things that the sun spins around its axis, it also states that it is swimining in a n orbit toward final resting place if i am not mistaken.. the orbit is rounded. which is true of the sun it swims around the milkyway.it has an orbit which would take 200 billion yrs to complete. what a miracle what a miracle.la ilahe il Allah
JEMOMER 1 year ago
and Muhammed pbuh, was illiterate. you may say He is not but that is the historical veiw. that has always remained
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
IF he was, why did Jibril keep on squeezing him to read?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 the word is iqra , which means read, recite, repeat, Which that is why on the third occassion when Jibril held him and squeezed him, he asked what shal i read. he understood it first as read as in the way we would read a book. but we know that he wasnt given a book, So we must then understand that the word was being used also for the other meaning it holds which is to recite, repeat.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
So, what do you think the being was saying to Muhammad?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 i just told you, it is the first revelation of tghe quran which is Surah Al Alaq. Jibril is also known in islam as Ruhul Kudus, or holy spirit. interesting in our understandings, you understand the holy spirit which came to mary as God, and we understand it as the messenger Angel, Jibril. that is Gabriels task as an angel. a messenger between God and his selected servents.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
So, Jesus is the Son of Jibril?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 no we dont accept your idea that mary on whome be peace was in a
sexual act with GOd or other wise spiritual or physical. then where is the virgine birth in that? jibril was a messenger bringing glad tidings to Mary, God said be and Jesus was. Kun ve ye kun.God says be and it is, that is all go needs to say. jibril simply a messenger of good news
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
So, why did you mention Jibril?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 i wanted you to know the understanding of Holy spirit and its duties, so that it may clarify your bible for you.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
In what way?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 i answered this, but you tell be is joseph the father of jesus?
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Only by marriage, it seems.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 Look i wanna get the record straight, there is no mention of Maryam ever being engaged or married according to the quran or any other islamic documentary, this is totally a christian fabrication. how ever. i can only speak to you in regards to you in terms of the bible because you take that to be true. if Mary was married before jesus' birth and after would he is know as the father? How can you claim a virgin birth? especially that the bible affirms that Joseph was jesus father.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
According to the Bible, when you have sex, you become one flesh. It seems that Mary and Joseph would become one flesh later AFTER Jesus was born. After all, Mary had MORE than just Jesus. It's only Catholics who try to believe Mary is a perpetual virgin.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 would it be right, for the education system to give advanced math to a preschooler? of course not there is a time for everthing. and even for us as our kids get older, they have until puberty to make up there minds. after that there record begins. even for us, i get educated as i go along, i dont know everything there is to know about islam. i have a over all concept of everything but i only know in depth some of them.i lack in fikh issues but not in faith issues.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
But, again, the Quran is completed. First you have the Quran coming around for when it's supposed to be needed, and, now you don't, for it's completed.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 Yes that is because know it is All nessecary. in our life. there are many many more muslims, as apose to a handfull in the first years of the quran. as i said, as incidents occured the quran was revealed. So know that All the possible incidences have occured. it is complete. So in your life there what ever incidences you may come accross Islam has the remedy
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
According to Islam, well, Bukhari and Muslim Hadith, Muhammad said that if you eat seven ajwa dates in the morning, you will be protected ALL day from both magic and poison. Also, black cumin cures ALL diseases accept death. But, do you believe those Sahih sayings?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 give me reference numbers, and i will look them up, people have a habit of changing word around or missing words or missing the rest of sentences. So i need to have a look at the hadith, and question the context it has been used in. and to whome. and why. You see the prophet wouldnt just say something just for the sake of saying it, some one must have asked him about something. and he would have given such an answer as to answer there question.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
All you have to do is type into your web browser "Muhammad said, 'eating seven ajwa dates in the morning will protect you all day from both magic and poison"", and, it will take you to those Sahih Hadiths.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 and where ican i find the exergisis?
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
You really want me to give you the Sahih volume and book number, true? Are you afraid to look it up yourself?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 it seems you are the one affraid of doing some quranic exergisis. you just blurt things out with out thinkings out. and it is said to me when a fasiq brings you some news, first check for its reliability. know you got this hadith from some where, do you want me to take ten years to find it, or wouldnt you rather give me a referance? what have you got to hide? other wise lets just go on making things up how are we to know what weight to hold to things?
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
What Hadith have I presented do you not think to be authentic or fabricated? The dates? The devil sleeping in your nose at night? Muhammad saying the sun has to "ask permission to RISE again" (when it should be the earth constantly asking permssion to 'keep on rotating')? Water NOT being defiled only in taste, smell, and color? WHICH of those Hadiths do you find to NOT be true?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 i answered the satan in the nose hadith.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
And, it was ambiguous. So, you don't believe in Muhammad's talk of the dates, the sun asking permission to rise, and, water only being defiled in taste, smell and color? If so, that is a good start.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 about the waters we have a volume just about water in islam, and permissible water and non permissible water, these writtings have taken into consideration the hadiths and the Quran. So i cant copy paste a whole volume pages upon pages about the topic of water. but mashallah you think you can answer everything with one hadith.
JEMOMER 1 year ago
@JEMOMER
Oh, I bet you CAN post page and page about water, especially if I post the things Muhammad says about water that are very short and to the point. Which is that water can't be defiled, only in taste, smell and color, to the point where EVEN if dead dogs and stinky stuff is in it, it can STILL be used for ablution, and, STILL can be used to drink even IF it has a dead donkey in the pond from where the water is taken from. Want me to post?
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 i believe in everything and anything that Muhammed Actaully did and actually said. and i believe totally that the quran is From Allah.
Do you believe that jesus is the God that died??
JEMOMER 1 year ago