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  • @anomaly19851: Your "litmus test for lifetime success measurement" rates deeply flawed & foolishly obviates eg, "dispositional genetics"; these: non-conformists | anarchists | hermits | unimpressed and/or those whom eschew avarice: fore-or-aft bourgeois predilections, urgencies, values, environment et cetera. Chris Langan appears a) intelligent, b) none-too-familiar with accrued scholarship legacies, c) conflicted as to his "marginalized worldly bid status": Fungibility Rejection

  • Nice trumpet music; hope it outlives us.

  • Christ Langan is a big flopp

  • I is verie smret 2....i an a jeanus

  • Ok... I will go read some more if his essays myself as this one is embarrassing in that it just restates the obvious.  Is he smart? Sure! Am I smart? Not that smart. But I don't need to be talked down to as if I am a blithering idiot. By the way, I don't have any kids.

  • Impressive essay. 

  • Text too hard to read since the text is conflicts with the background.

  • Sorry I meant to say how false he may have been at that point in time. Anyway, I completely accept what your saying about Copernicus however I want to stress that my whole argument with Langan's cognitive theory is that there may be an extensive amount of valid information within it's contents. If not, there may be some lead way into a more seemingly amorphous study we aren't capable of comprehending yet. I just ask you not to absolutely discount it over peer reviews

  • @JRODTHEVID Sure, I suppose there could be valid info within Langan's hypothesis. It's just that he's given us no reason for us to think as much. It fails as science which is why no peer-reviewed journal would want anything to do with it. Don't buy the "We're just not smart enough to comprehend it" line. The opposite is true.

    Brilliant ideas are expressed in terms easy to understand. Einstein was famous for his clarity. All Langan is doing is hiding his nonsense in psychobabble.

  • @Haroldbeavis1969 O no believe me I by no means believe that Langan's work is "too hard to understand". I thought it was a joke when djdontlaugh said maybe one day we'll understand him. I recognize that everything Langan is explaining is through already sought and discovered scientific and philosophical study. I'm just stating that the whole form and goal of the CTMU ,being in a large sense metaphysical, may not be something our current scientific understanding may be able to recognize

  • @JRODTHEVID "I'm just stating that the whole form and goal of the CTMU ,being in a large sense metaphysical, may not be something our current scientific understanding may be able to recognize." JRod, if it works for you and you're happy, I'm happy too!

  • The world needs real solutions, real leadership, the world needs for each person to better their own understanding, we don't need finger pointing and blame games and people who want lots of "other" people to die off. I see high population as a major advantage as long as each person does their part, people are a great resource, for example there are many more "Einsteins" today than way back because we have many more people, although most of them are wasting their talents imo.

  • i can barely read this... and why would you make the slides so frequent? noone needed the backround to be pictorial.

  • i can barely read this...

  • djdontlaugh writes: "maybe one day well understand him. I do not own any of this work as it is property of christopher langan.I just wanted to share this story." We'd be able to understand ctmu if it weren't a bunch of meaningless psychobabble. Talk to me when a peer-reviewed scientific journal takes it seriously.

  • @Haroldbeavis1969 Sounds like the same approach others took during the times of Socrates, and Copernicus. You should worry less about the opinion of peer-reviewed scientific journalists and more of the validity of Mr.Langan's work. Assuredly, there is a great attainable knowledge within the bunch of meaningless psychobabble.

  • @JRODTHEVID Arguably the most ignorant comment ever posted on You Tube and that says a lot: Langan's work will never be peer reviewed because he never offers anything that can be measured, proven, or disproven. And without peer review, it cannot be deemed credible. To the contrary, Copernicus offered a hypothesis -- that the planets revolve around the sun and not the Earth -- that conceptually could be proved or disproved even if the technology didnt exist at the time. Langan is no Copernicus.

  • @Haroldbeavis1969 Be that as it may, it doesn't discredit anything that can be attained from Langan's work. My point in sourcing Socrates and Copernicus is that Socrates for one being a philosopher applied hardly testable ideals. That mainly being what philosophy is. I used Copernicus because his heliocentric model applied, as you said a hypothesis, that despite being false still holds a great presence in astronomy today.

  • @JRODTHEVID A few problems here: 1) Langan would have us believe that he's talking science, not philosophy. He believes his CTMU proves the existence of God, therefore making faith, in his own word, "extraneous."

    2)Copernicus' helocentric model, in which the planets revolve around the sun, was never false. You don't think the planets and the sun revolve around the Earth, right?

    3) Langan hasn't given us anything to discredit. If it can't be measured, it can't be discredited. How clever!

  • @Haroldbeavis1969 Now i compared the two to Langan because his CTMU has what may be considered simply a philosophical ideal or what he considers "The Theory of Theories". With Langan, he's trying to clarify the perception of reality and thereby establishing if there is indeed a God. Now I want to point out how you said "even if the technology didn't exist at the time". Much of Langan's writings concern metaphysical properties that can't be truly be measured by todays scientific understanding

  • @Haroldbeavis1969 of the Universe. So overall, what I'm saying is that although Langan's theory/ hypotheses./ philosophy/ psycho babble may not be necessarily proven or disproven it may hold have some lead way and truth into something much bigger that we can't prove or understand yet. Maybe/maybe not. All I wish to say is don't simply out rule it because peer reviewers can't justify it or support it.

  • @JRODTHEVID No. Don't get confused. In Copernicus' time, everyone knew what the "planets" "Sun," and "Earth," were. " He developed mathematical equations showing how the Earth and the other planets revolved aound the sun, not the Earth. That's a definitive statement that could be proven at some point.

    But "God" isnt like that. There must be thousands of different definitions and versions of "God." Until Langan defines what he's talking about, his theory will never be valid.

  • Interesting. You mean the behavior of mice can mimic human beings?. Wow! Someone should tell this to lab technicians so they might start experimenting with mice as a way of predicting human behavior and testing medical treatments that might be useful to humans!

    Oh, wait....

  • @Haroldbeavis1969 the point isn't to prove that the behavior of mice can mirror human's; it's to provide a parable effectively illustrating how comparably human recklessness is mirroring that of mice.

  • This is not the world's smartest man... what a load of crap. I watched his interview where he sat down and made a load of arrogant and easily correctable opinions and there was absolutely NOTHING that I learn't from him apart from how to LOOK smart which for the less talked about people that actually want to find their freedom and peace in knowledge is useless information.

  • Chris Langan is a fraud i am not doubting the guy has a high IQ but he is not in the 190-210 range. He took the IQ test that made him famous 3 times twice under false identities it was only on the 3rd occasion that he got the score he publicizes

  • @FCMillwall81 where can i find that he took the same test three times

  • @FCMillwall81 Right FCM. Far be it from me to defend anything that comes out of Langan's mouth but until you cite the source of your information, your statement makes you the fraud.

  • Actually according to recent Census data we aren't that bad in terms of overpopulation. The US population jumped 8 million up a measly 2.5%.

  • @HolyLordGodAlmighty Once again an American who thinks the world ends at the Atlantic ocean. The nations of the earth are all subject to the same finite resources and we, as a planet, are currently on the precipice of demand exceeding availability on numerous natural essentials, including food and water. Overpopulation is a global problem and if humans don't realise this and begin to mange the problem soon, nature will do it for us, and believe me, that will get messy.

  • If the humans are feeding the mice, then, who is feeding the humans?

  • @Jordaanxxx way to totally miss the point brosef

  • @Jordaanxxx humans arent purposely feeding the mice. god/the planet/energy of the universe is feeding us

  • The secret message here folks is that the great mice space lords (yes Splinter from TMNT is their leader) will exterminate us when we have overstayed our welcome in our "cabin Earth". And you think it was just a coincidence the moon is made of cheese?

  • more apathetic members of our society. The audience whom he is attempting to appeal to with this story is small, and they are likely already familiar with its message. Just my thoughts.

  • I see his point, and I agree with it, but I've never really been blown away by anything he says. He often uses a lot of complex wording, but he doesn't really seem to have any genius or innovative ideas. I'm fairly certain that most judicious people are aware that we run a high risk of destroying the environment for future generations by our actions. His mouse story is cliche and redundant. If anything he should write a more simplistic, lowbrow story that would resonate with the less educated,

  • @gonetilltoday its not about "who" exterminates us, he's just illustrating the mouse has the capability to change its behaviour to survive with better success in those circumstances, and so do we in ours. Its unlikely the mice will figure this out any time soon, and neither will we, and even if we all had the answer in front of us, the transition would still be sluggish, I just don't think people are naturally inclined to make such sacrifices for benefits maybe 100s of generations down the track

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  • @madzane94 There is no grammatical reason not to, as long as the subordinate clause that is opened by the word 'because' is followed by a main clause. Don't swallow everything your elementary school teacher tells you.

  • The smartest man ever, ha ha. This mouse argument is completely flawed. The mice are merely scurrying around looking for food in an environment created by man. Which is an easy place, where food is abundant. Like cockroaches, they take advantage of us and we try to kill them, but more of them survive than are killed, thus, they keep coming back, again and again. Who exterminates us? Not the planet earth or a higher intelligence, only ourselves. We should prevent this by comparing us to mice?

  • @gonetilltoday scarcity is lethal

  • @gonetilltoday he's saying if mice were intelligent enough they could prevent their own demise, in contrast to humans who are of course more intelligent than mice but nonetheless stupid enough to be afflicted by the same problems - such as overpopulation, wasting resources, and destroying their living space.

  • @NewsPope uhh buddy Marilyn vos Savant is not a man.. when dealing with records when they say things like smartest man or tallest man they meen man as in male not as in human if they meen human they will usually just say smartest person or human or something along those lines.

  • i would have needed to be a genius just to keep up with the pace of the reading...

  • Wynton Marsalis (the music in the video), now he's a true genius.

  • Life on earth will go on for billions of years, long after the human race is extinct. Accept the fact that we're not gods. Yes, life will go on without us. Life on earth will continue even if we obliterate ourselves. Life on earth will exist until the sun dies. The human race, however, will go extinct, just as mother nature intends.

  • Mice reproduce quiclky because they're prey, thus they die quickly. To think it's a flaw in mice is dumb. They reproduce quickly so they continue to exist. It's the opposite of a flaw, it's a great strategy to keep them in existence.

  • Species go extinct. Humans will go extinct. Trying to prevent that is fighting against the natural order of things. The problem is that we think we'll live forever, twenty billion years into the future. We won't. The earth is more powerful than our tiny race, and it will kill us.

  • beautiful music! it'd be great if you could provide a transcript of the text in the video for blind users. thanks so much!

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  • The only way to stop our over population is to make a world wide law that couples can only have one child. After a time the population would collapse to a much more sustainable level.

    But to get a world law in place we would have to get all leaders of all countries to comply.

    The UN is the only entity that can start this.

  • watch zeitgeist on google!

  • stupit people are having to many babys

  • @PaddyMills12345 Proof.

  • @XRusher666X college is where it matters even less. prove me wrong, i dare u.

  • @ZRadach last time i checked, college is where u go to impress the ppl who will put u ahead in life, im in a very competitive college i wud know

  • @XRusher666X I'm working on higher learning (University not a college; it's more difficult) as well... (medical degree) trust me I know about competitive academia. I fail to see how going to college will PRACTICALLY get a message across any more effectively than youtube (one of the biggest medium for the GLOBAL exchange of information and ideals through videos and comments in existence) regardless of who is "impressed" or whether you "get ahead" (not quite sure what the latter means)

  • i need this book

  • the only difference is our ability to understand , but still not change what we are doing anyway

  • im glad he said this. ive always had very similar thoughts and they also revolved around comparing us to animals (because i think we are. a lot of people say theres things that separate humans from animals. im not seeing it.) he really put this in good words

  • @nickfromdtown1992 It is well known that humans are animals. The point is kind of obvious! I don't need someone who likes doing IQ test to explain an infant's curriculum to me.

    Unfortunately there are misconceptions in this guys understanding: what he's suggesting is not possible to implement into the world without causing war. The developing countries are largely responsible for the population boom - not the industrialised countries.

  • @NODDYFISCHER In the industrialised countries the people who were born and bred there, the true British, Americans...you name it!!! They're having children later and ill people are not normally successful in producing kids. So I can't see how they're responsible for the population boom.

    So then we have to stop the ethic cultures from breeding...that will cause more than religious war! It will be the third world war.

  • @NODDYFISCHER So technically. This caring person, Chris Langan, thinks that he is the saviour of the human race by using a method that will cause a domino effect that will lead to a world war! tut tut tut tut.

    So he's basically saying, 'we can't go on like this because we are going to kill each other off.' He has actually said that!!!! And this in effect, 'so we must kill each other off now!'

    What a fucking plant pot!

  • @NODDYFISCHER we dont know if its impossible because weve never tried. im not against having booku fucking weapons. but the idea that we have to go to war to me is brain washing. who said we have to go to war? and hes not saying that. hes saying take a long look at yourself and decide what have you done to make the world a better place

  • Sadly, I think there are a lot of possible ways that humanity could alter its collective behavior in order to not face eventual extermination, but so many of them completely oppose human nature, so it might be naieve to expect them to ever be implemented. I've read many suggestions; for example, the entire concept of different nations and governments being eliminated, giving way to one global society, or the notion of organized religion being entirely displaed by individuals' spirituality.

  • because @XRusher666X the education facilities and intellectuall safe havens are taken up by their capacity for profit, in that they only allow for good thought on the basis of good money. Youtube is the ideal place for every being, regardless of income race social status or gender, to discuss the topics in a thourough manner, even the academics are invited for discussion.besides I woudlnt call college a good place for things to be done considerin their the reason why the system is sucha mediocre

  • i never heard this guy say anything original

  • @XRusher666X Lol exactly i hate wen ppl do tht its the internet not college show off ur smartness somewhere else, everyone is capable of making a sentence with no grammatical errrors.

  • @fartonmeharder First of all you're an idiot for thinking everyone is capable of making a sentence with no errors. Secondly, you and Rusher are idiots for thinking only NON-SMART people should post on YouTube.

  • @Masterwow123 first of all everyone is capable second i never said non smart people only should post comments, im saying nobody cares that you could

  • @fartonmeharder So you would rather believe a lie than be proved wrong? If you answer no then you do care and if you answer yes then you're an idiot. And not everyone can make a grammatically correct sentence, for example, Down syndrome patients. When you use the word everyone it means EVERYONE.

  • @Masterwow123 omg your still trying to sound smart

    ur ingnorant and wont stop trying will you? hmmm...how many comments will you leave me until youve proved yourself? lets see

  • @fartonmeharder and also look at who uring arguing with

    fartonmeharder theres no point lmao

  • @Masterwow123 " So you would rather believe a lie than be proved wrong?" wat does that have to do with anything i said?

  • @fartonmeharder Oh forgot, being capable of doing something means you have the correct criteria to do it. I'm not capable of hitting a baseball 5000 feet.

  • after getting through the first four chapters in "Outliers" I just want to apologize for my harsh comment on Langan. I have lots of sympathy for the guy now and completely understand why he lives on a ranch. Do your thang Langan....prove god...or whatever

  • It's a shame someone with this intelligence who could make a big impact ON THE WORLD chooses to prove god. (And which god? Christianity?). YOU CAN'T PROVE GOD SO DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME! This man could solve economic problems, environmental, governmental, or pretty much invent anything he wanted.... Can't blame him I guess. It's too bad he's retarded in the passion area of the brain

  • iq is often misunderstood all it means is with you can generally learn faster and are naturally good at reasoning and problem solving and find seemingly complex things easier to do, though it does not measure social skill personality etc. what langan does here is point out the blatantly obvious, what he doesn't do is point out how to sway people from pro-creating any idiot can point out a problem the genius is in finding a reasonable working solution to that problem

  • THIS IS how to sway people from procreating. You tell them the problem. There is no other way except to offer money (or any reward) to dissuade people

  • nope it's like telling people alcohol is bad 4 u it's not gonna stop em drinking if they want to drink it's something almost everyone obviously already knows but no one really cares about, if someone tells you not to have kids you're gonna tell em it's my choice what i do it's a freedom we have as human beings and a freedom which cant be taken away without consequences, people would rebel against it completely, we've known the problem for decades pointing a finger of blame makes no difference

  • Okay I agree with you there. The abstinence only club of course has sex. So I've seen Langan's documentary that is also on YouTube. Do you think that his ideas on eugenics is the answer? Test people...if they have disease, low iq, etc then they get their reproductive abilities taken away, but might get a small reward in return for participation.. It's either you force them, or try to persuade them.... And he wants force, but is trying to persuade with his story

  • imagine he wanted kids and everyone in the world was far smarter than chris langan and less disease prone would he take to his own idea so readily then? knowing he was relatively stupid probably not and if anyone tried to persuade him of anything he would firmly believe he knew better, tis easy 4 him to say when things are in his favor and point and laugh at other ppl, for such a smart man he makes such stupid comments, nd he wastes his time on trying to prove the existence of god! what a tool!

  • @TheThorguitar Why can't someone try to prove the existence of God? Is there something wrong with that? Doesn't the Universe we live in look a "little" too engineered to you? The probability of everything turning out the way it has is astronomical and almost incalculable. What if thousands of years in the future we as humans have the ability to create a "mini" universe with the possibility of life being able to evolve on it. We would be their God, so who is our God?

  • @AtomicAbility well if the current universe we exist didn't turn out this way we most likely wouldn't b having this conversation but likelihood is we exist in one of an infinite number of parallel universes existing simultaneously we just happen to occupy 1 of these possibly a better universe than most for supporting the existence of life since we wouldn't exist without this albeit slim chance due to infinite possible universes we were almost certainly to exist in at least 1

  • @AtomicAbility ps. I'm not saying their isn't god anything is possible :) but trying to prove the existence of god is futile he can hardly point his finger and say here he is lmao XD god is a belief that changes in lots of religions he can try 2 work out probability and such but that's still always gonna be hearsay i don't care if he had an iq of 1000 he still cant prove the existence of a deity and what exactly is god yano in order to find anything you'd have to know what it is ur searching for

  • @TheThorguitar It's not about pointing at someone and saying that's god. After all the speed of light at 186,000 miles per second was widely adopted before it could ever be tested. There could be an unknown number of parallel universes, you're right. It still does not explain how they got to be what they are. Everything we know exists is always made by something else except what we know of the Universe/Universes. If its either God or any other force that created it is the ultimate question.

  • the best way i think would gradual introduction of accepted law's and limitations on family size with regard to income families could be income tested to insure a quality standard of life for the child they would be bringing into the world in interest of the child's welfare and higher availability even free contraceptives to anyone who need's them paid for by tax this would lower birth rates dramatically that's just the first idea off the top of my head lyk

  • I disagree with the families with income can have more kids part. But I totally agree on free contraceptives. A girl told me that birth control already secretly is free. The government would be quick to give someone birth control that "claimed" they couldn't afford it. We could also do the one child rule. That's a real quick way to cut the population in half

  • well yea it does seem a bit unfair lyk but a family should at least have the means to give a child a decent life a stable job and good mentality the consideration would be more for the child's well being, regardless of income i think potential parents should b emotionally nd mentally stable wealthy parents can still b assholes if there was screening in this manner it would benefit both the child and the population equally, and i believe it would be more readily accepted than a single child rule

  • Why hasn't this Langan guy given any Ted Talks or Big Think Talks. seems like he's contributed very little for being 50+ years old. His concern with God has little value in making real changes- what so religious people can finally say "See! we told you so!" I am starting to think he is a charlatan. The only videos I find are him talking about himself. And his website with his Theory- a very ugly website... Does this guy even take himself seriously?

  • This guy should create a program or a method of making other people intelligent something like a course or write a book.

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  • I don't see him throwing anything away.. Wouldn't you consider at least some of his writings to be a new take on humanitarianism? I don't see many intellectuals addressing the problems of overpopulation or speaking out about eugenics..

    Perhaps you mean he hasn't helped us advance technologically or on other superficial levels, but if he helps humanity come closer to the truth and succeed long-term, isn't that better?

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  • It was first formally detailed by Robert Malthus. It's interesting to get a new perspective on it in terms of contemporary problems, i.e. resource depletion, global food shortages, etc.

    If you think a "proper education" exists for Americans, read some Rousseau. It doesn't. You're almost offensively shallow really.

    Speaking of Rousseau, he reminds me a lot of Chris Langan.. an unappreciated and understandably misunderstood genius. Try looking below the surface! Goodbye!

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  • You insulted a man with a 200+ IQ and you use the misspelling "Roderic." I think I see what the problem is. No offense, but I'll be glad to "fuck off" in this case. Btw, if you account the Bible as a credible source for the problem of overpopulation, you are part of the problem, not the solution =)

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  • lol, right? numbers are numbers dude, if he has a higher i.q., why pretend that you potentially understand something this guy doesn't?? if anything, i'd think ol' langan would humble most.

  • What are you talking about?

  • imagine you had a vastly greater understanding e.g. an adult would have greater understanding than a child, now imagine being lectured by the child told to use child's toys and following the child's directions though your understanding is superior you are limited by this structure how long before you tire of it? that's what college is like for those of higher intellect it's demeaning and boring, when you've a high IQ it's difficult to find anyone on your level of understanding 2 converse with :(

  • i concur

  • I disagree with you. A professor to Langan is not analogous to a child and adult. Langan has a high IQ, but a professor is much more knowledgable. If you had a high IQ and wanted to be an actor.... you would still depend on acting coaches

  • your ability to learn would be far higher and you'd learn everything at several times the rate of an average person, as for acting it's more about physical expression so it wouldn't really depend on just IQ as physical action isn't measured e.g. stephen hawking though most good actors tend to be smart anyway james woods for example scores a very impressive 180

  • Human beings are very shortsighted. They will become obsolete like the dinosaurs, but unlike the dinosaurs, it will be through the humans' folly. The thing that makes humans "great" will destroy them.

  • Interesting. Thank you for sharing djdontlaugh.

  • Why do videos featuring someone with an ultra high IQ mostly attract buffoons?

  • Considering that Kim was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records under "Highest IQ"; the book estimated the boy's score at about 210. And there's Grigori Perelman, at least he solved the Poincaré conjecture (one of the Millenium Prize problems). As of the spring of 2003, Perelman no longer works at the Steklov Institute, According to a 2006 interview, Perelman is currently jobless, living with his mother in Saint Petersburg. So much for being "highly intellingent"...

  • I dont think being highly intelligent necessarily means that one will have the drive or even the desire to be a great success in life, or to have a series of successes. It have been proven that manic depression and bipolar disorder are more common in people of greater intelligence. Those disorders can render one in a catatonic mental state. I know because I have seen the effect (and affect) of those diseases, in members of my family that are highly intelligent, yet stricken with mental torture.

  • Well said! And isn't it disheartening to watch another's inner plight and though you may show concern, little if anything can be done to alleviate the aspects that effectively paralyze that individual. Yeah, for years, I'd been "laid off" (I was often making "simple" mistakes), yet upon taking the International Hi IQ society's online test (and several written aptitude tests) AND I've scored VERY highly. My diagnosis: Adult ADD. It explained EVERYTHING.

    My heartfelt best wishes to your family.

  • This guy should watch the movie(or read the book) animal farm; this is just early communist thought... Make another connection; intelligent people who are not educated enough have made mistakes like this throughout history. Not to get an ego myself but, I am pretty sure he theorized his own solution or way he thinks the world could work. If my assumption is true it is probably just a utopia with minute differences to the goals or societies of past communist regimes.

  • Animal Farm is a critique of the Soviet Union, not "communism" as conceptualized by Marx.

  • very very true!

  • y-y-yup yuuuup!

  • This is no revelation to me though the population graphs and other facts of human existence lead me to believe that a massive number of us really don't consider life in the long term at all when making their decisions.I don't either except i recognise that we do as a species behave irresponsibly and shortsightedly and personally i think it just a fluke of circumstance that i don't automatically think having children to be a great idea for many reasons the lusting masses wouldn't even consider.

  • And that's a problem, because lower IQ breeders tend to bring down the mean IQ of the planet, and by extension lower the civilizational level of the planet.

  • But if those of "higher" IQ (whether documented or not), don't assist others, then how can they complain? And if they were allowed to exercise "natural selection" ad libitum, then where or more precisely who would qualify as the "lowest" permissible limit?

    Soon only the truly "fittest" would survive...and often that DOESN'T include physically smaller...or handicapped...

    Good bye Stephen Hawking....

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