Elliott Smith - The White Lady Loves You More

[Missmissrey]

I bet this song is about.. Actually nobody cares.

[FunsPeople]

Is he talking about Cocaine or Heroin?

[kdladie]

@Oliver....I know exactly what you mean, I try to spread positives in all my posts :) There is enuf negative as is. I agree, people should take what they like an leave the rest. No one has the same tastes. But negativity can be so overwhelming that some don't get the help they do need....it's sad.

[kdladie]

@Oliver....way to go! I strongly believe in the power and strength of music...I use it myself to get thru the tough times. Your insight is also appreciated. As I read the bicker back and forth about what drug....it doesn't matter (but your right) what kind, it's a metaphor...

[OliverWhalen]

@kdladie Thanks for the support, that is what it's all about! I started an account just to chime in on this convo... You are right, it seems like people use Youtube and ES posts in particular to troll and spread negativity. It is sad to me that viewers can't take what they like and leave the rest. It is frustrating but understandable... Suicide and addiction are taboo subjects, and because of this it can be hard to get help. Hurtful comments have the potential for keeping people from gettin help

[OliverWhalen]

And from reading his biography I know that he did massive amounts of cocaine and heroin, but he was clean during the events leading up to his suicide. But what drug he was on or what drug he was singing about is irrelevant... To me anyways. I see it as beautiful, poetic, honest music that has helped me through my moments of defining hell. I can honestly say I don't know if I could have gotten clean were it not for the strength I've drawn from music in general... But Steven Smith especially.

[OliverWhalen]

Well "The White Lady" has, in my experience, been the vernacular for cocaine... The entire song is a reference to one drug or another. To me it represents dope sickness as well as picking up. It isn't "metal man", he is saying "middle man" which should be obvious reference to picking up dope i.e. "need a middle man to pick up your feet"... I am an addict in recovery and it is quite hard to get out of bed in the morning if you are physically dependent on Skag or any opioid for that matter.

[stevieboy4]

you people are retarded if you think this song is about cocaine.

[ipreferiti]

CHE COSA SOPRAFFINA LA BIANCA EROINA

[briannaorbust]

White lady sounds to me like dope...then again all injectable narcotics are white. I can think oflike 5 dif

[fayet313]

the white lady is definitely heroin



[MaxGiu]

it was like 2 or 3 years since i first listen to this song.. and everytime i listen to it i can't do it just once... over and over and over as it never end

[Lilawadee8]

CRYING

[cluckybuducky]

best song in paranoid park =)

[unclefeezus]

"The white lady" can be either cocaine or heroin. Given Elliott Smith's severe addiction to the latter, and given that it's so much more destructive, and given that the general tone of the song is consistent with the transcendent peace caused by opiates, I'd say it's about heroin.

[heyjude97]

@unclefeezus The White Lady also could be a figure of death or suicide. It was one in the Victorian era, perhaps he could have been just saying that, too.

[Animosity831]

top ten best songs about cocaine

[TheEpictoadjourney]

@Animosity831 its about heroin

[Animosity831]

@TheEpictoadjourney well it's what i searched on google and this song came up.

[TheEpictoadjourney]

@Animosity831 well your wrong lol

[Animosity831]

@TheEpictoadjourney don't believe me? look it up for yourself.

[TheEpictoadjourney]

@Animosity831 no, i believe that you believe the song is about coke but i know that the song is about heroin. its fucking common sense

[Animosity831]

@TheEpictoadjourney well you know what? i don't care what you believe this songs about. all i did was search for the top ten songs about cocaine on google and this song came up.

[Bretcmm]

@TheEpictoadjourney "White Lady" is coke. It has always been coke. Heroin is a brown powder. He's singing about someone he loves who is more in love with cocaine than him. So you, in fact, are the wrong one.

[Unremarkable1000]

@Bretcmm 'The White Lady' is heroin. Elliott was heavily involved with heroin, and he uses the term other songs 'King's Crossing', where references to needles are also mentioned, 'And the needles on the tree'. Disregard the definitions you searched on Google.

[schwagnot]

@Bretcmm Heroin can actually be white, black, purple and even reddish black. BUT you are right. White Lady is coke people. Just cuz he was a junkie at one point (which he wasn't at his death) doesn't mean the man never did coke. In most cases people move on to heroin after coke, especially someone like Elliot who matured during the coke epidemic of the 80's.

[schwagnot]

@schwagnot ALSO, I get the feeling he's talking about someone else's coke problem in this song, not his own.

[mouseverde12]

you just have.....

sit.....and enjoy the music



[elliottsmitth]

he's talkin about heroin here white lady can be either. need a metal man just to pick up your feet. talkin about a needle

[NittaSuper]

I wish I could have met Elliott!

[akakawesum]

I think the song is about suicide. This would be relevant to his mindset and his eventual suicide. Look up white lady in Wikipedia.

[eldantastico]

This to me is Elliott Smith writing from his partner's perspective... His partner is finally giving up on him, telling him: "The White Lady Love's You More".... Heartbreaking, but brilliant.

[brendanbansavage]

nick drake city

[dirtynuke]

The white lady is a metaphor for cocaine. Smith suffered an addiction to both cocaine, and heroin. An extremely volatile and dangerous combination of drugs. The hardest to beat.

[Brandonbubbles]

@dirtynuke i completely agree.

[Pariatical]

@dirtynuke Actually, white lady refers to Heroin.

[KMurderful]

2 ppl werent ever descret.

[eefairy303]

this reminds me of camille.....

[eefairy303]

this reminds me of camille.....

[steph0496]

I know exactly what this song means. I don't think you could know unless you've lived it. Which, I hope nobody really has to do.

[dannygatton1]

He's talking about how the ultimate euphoria of heroin is so much kinder then the streets and day to day life

[condiersea]

its about a drug addiction to heroin. the white lady is heroin. 

[Nicoletalana]

@condiersea so herion likes the other dude better?

[cordfluidnevoie]

oh darn the white stuff

[candysays69]

Now, I'm generally against making such strong statements, but the 2 people who "disliked" this song have no souls. You should get your pulses checked. Seriously.

[isolationeitheror]

..."the white lady loves you more"...

[koufitsas]

really great music if only it wasnt that sad

[tautou420]

running speed trials standing in place

[GSarovich]

from a dream you don't remember flashing on like a cops light...

[ragingtapioca]

It's about his heroine addiction for clarification.

[warmandsunnydays]

This is my anthem for failed relationships. I've lost one too many friends and lovers to the lady.

[kyung0215]

God, I love this song!

[ruufeeooh]

racist bastard, a black woman can love just as much. (jk, good song)

[meryeli1]

I'm sure he was in a relationship with an addict. A love triangle with drugs.

[Pillgrimer]

"How pure it is? Pure enough to cause you to rethink where your life is going. Then you do another line and it's all better."

[NMPopka]

cool song, I think it's about Morphine or maybe Diamorphine addiction, White lady is usually slang for powerful opioid pills.

[illuminez]

@NMPopka I thought it was about cocaine. "The white lady....loves you more".

[IncubusG]

@illuminez I thought so too, Where I am from white lady is definitely slang for cocaine.

[Pariatical]

@illuminez Its about heroin. The term has been around long before cocaine ever came into the scene. China White and such.

[rockfeller2005]

by far my favourite song of Elliott's :)

[rockfeller2005]

by far my favourite song of Elliott's :)

[purplexspaceship]

this song is beautiful. paranoid park is amazing<3333

[lucythewhitelady]

i love him so much

[1514jazzman]

hahahahaha

[coolskaterlikeice]

this song is amazing!! its kind of sad but i still love it :D!

elliott is one of thos epeople i wish i could have met ):

[MouthsLikSdwndrMisls]

@coolskaterlikeice A sad song by Elliott Smith? Psh. Never.

[comeonboeltsy]

this is my all time favorite song... haunting, beautiful and shrouded in mystery...

[shizzleICEsprizzle]

paranoid park :)

[mjsmith777]

Ditto Olgalayble. Watched "paranoid park" went to wiki, found the songs, googled the man and am amazed that i never made the connection. heard his music when i lived in LA on KCRW several times in the 1990s, never made note of his name, now i know. beautiful music.

[jcastorina]

Someone gave this song a poor rating? How I weep for the future...

Amazing, Elliott. You had such a gift...

[AuthenticCelestial]

sublime. one of those songs of his that just floats, like some old perfume in a dusty room, and overwhelms you every time.

[Olgalayble]

I wachted the film paranoid park and I liked the music in the film, so I searched here for the music and now I love Elliott Smith.

[domik144]

me too! i love the films of Van Sant and when i watched PARANOID PARK i loved this song

[dinkinflicka44]

i'm lookin at a hand full of broken plans..

[user98xp]

@dinkinflicka44

Megadeth - 'Use The Man' comes to mind

[Julzmaniac]

love it.

[jazzhopin]

Good music asshole.

[coolskaterlikeice]

@jazzhopin how am i an asshole o_o?

[coolskaterlikeice]

why am i an asshole lmao?

i upload a song for your dumb ass to listen to,apriciate!! NOW!

[nocrazyyou]

@coolskaterlikeice thanks for loving me more

[LollyMolly000]

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