Why Smith Machines are Not as Effective as Free Weights Exercises

[elnino559]

I think the smith machine is a good machine for people NEW to weightlifting to develop a little size and confidence, when used with bodyweight training for stabilizers, but eventually we must break the umbilical cord and switch to free weights. Switching from smith machine to free weights (or vice versa will provide a barrier in translating that strength, but that strength will be soon there once the stabilizer muscles adapt.

[Kieran5825]

Why is dumbbell press harder than free bench press, I can lift a lot more on the bench as opposed to dumbbells, is this right or am I doing something wrong?...

[tapmasterflex]

@Kieran5825 thats is what should happen, dumbells require the most stabalizer muscles to activate therefore you should be stonger on bench press compared to db press

[TheGoblinn]

Haha i remember when i first went into gym i made this mistake i could to 20kg plate on each side on the smith machine but when i got to the barbell i was so close to snapping some shit up ! :L

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[Blakheim343]

Great video

[Frosty539018]

@lolzgym it gets you a feel of the movement you need to bench press yet not exactly the strength. Its mostly to keep form before using the barbell.

[lolzgym]

if smith machines are so bad then why do personal trainers teach bench press on the smith like this this video? /watch?v=o8HMSblmbgs

[twinmuscleadvises1]

K+K your opinion is only partly right, OK you touch more muscle celluls with free weights, but you also rise up the risk of an injury. SMITH MACHINE is not bad at all. Eevrything is depending on age and physical status of the person. It's only a recent shit to discuss such details, whatever you do in the gym if you do it with a good technic and with the right weight! CHEST = whether you do smith machine, or peck desk machine, or free dumbells or free barbell everything is OK, JUST DO IT!

[Bess2k2]

i use to live on the smith machine,now im using free wts.Theyre right!

[BIGBLACKBEAST1000]

The endings are the way they should be again.

[runescapeo0o0]

so what about tricep cable extensions? i use them quite alot for tricep workouts

[SUCKRPUNCHED]

1:27

[zackhunt86]

You did say it's great for doing a tricep press though didn't you? I hate the smith. Tried the tricep press on it and thought it was harder.

[GuidedPirate]

TAKE A DUMP everything is now clear :D

[LulzRoyce]

Actually the stabilization isn't the major factor in the weight difference that one can do between free weights and machines. The one major thing you forgot to make point of is that machines use pulley systems, sometimes 2 or 3 pulleys for one machine. What those pulleys do, is much like a seesaw they take a lot of the work out of the equation. Try this on the tricep pull downmachines! Find one with only 1 pulley and one with 2-3 and you will see the 2-3 one you can do way more weight!

[Izanamias]

@LulzRoyce okay jimmy

[Padlakka]

the sniffing is back!

[helgih580]

@Padlakka was it ever gone? lol

[qatarguy85]

Tyrone Jackson and Jimmy Struthers ? I thought these guys were dead

[luckoftheazn]

Rofl! I use Jimmy Struthers as an example at work to sell video game consoles.

[spyderj1999]

Because of the lack of range of motion, I only do partials on Smith machines. I am able to lift more weight because I lift at the strongest part of the exercise.

[DenisTheMennnace]

Hey guys, dont your children hear you saying fuck that loud 4 times a day? What kind of an example are you?

[youngnigger1]

Kevin and keith u guys arr the shit! Only listening to ur advice :)

[pathfinderdude08]

Hahahaha Great vid guys!

FUCK Jimmy Struthers

[philhouse64]

fuckin gay my gym only has machines besides dumbells the benches and easy curl bars are all on machines and stableized but its cheap and it works so oh well

[TheMaxTobias]

Pulp Fiction Reference!

[lolzgym]

so i'm wasting time doing smith machine bicep curls??

[BXAssasinatorXS]

@lolzgym I have no idea how you can do that. Care to elaborate?

[stoleurshoes]

smith machine is good for calf raises!!

[CescSoler]

smith machines are fucking retarded.

[AltamonTKidd]

@wishmeluck411 you dont need any supplements bro...ur probably just out of shape thats why you get tired so fast. give it a couple days and ur body will adjust.

[spicnspan11]

i always do w.e the fuck i wanna do

[ydna681]

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS, GO AHEAD AND BLOW OUT A SHOULDER DUMB ASSES YOU HAVE TO USE BOTH BUT DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT WHEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE A YEAR OF FROM BENCH PRESSING BECAUSE YOU TORE A CUFF I WILL BE LAUGHING!!! PS COMMERCIAL SMITH MACHINES ARE HARDER THEY FORCE PERFECT FORM GO AHEAD LOSERS YOUVE ONLY BEEN LIFTING FOR 3 YEARS DONT TAKE ADVISE FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS FOR 8 YEARS AND HAS A 400lbs BENCH MAX!!!!

[flick07051986]

@ydna681 Lmao idiot!

[dq303]

@ydna681 stfu

[ydna681]

@dq303 LOOK LITTLE KID IM A PROFESSIONAL GOING TO A REAL UNIVERSITY THESE LOSERS GRADUATED FROM A FAKE DEVRY SCHOOL THERE PURE PHONY THEY GET PAID TO SELL JACKED 3D THATS WHY THEY KEEP ADVERTISING IT AND THERE SHIT IS BS! PS I JUST PULLED YOUR CARD LOSERS!

[danielgirotto]

do Jimmy Struthers, Doc Schwartz, and Tyrome all live on the same street?

[ike19142]

@danielgirotto lol i think so

[blemons100]

@danielgirotto lol! they live in the same house man! lol!

[VuTang01]

What do u guys mean by snapping? I hear that alot and not sure what u mean.

[danielgirotto]

@VuTang01 pretty sure it's just a figure of speech

[solidsnake1447]

Who is Dr. Schwartz?

[kelvyfajardo]

Is it easier to exercise on those Smith machines than with free weights?

If you answer was yes, then it is less affective to exercise with those Smith machines, in other words (you'll build more muscle with free weights than with the machines).

Free weights is the #1 to build muscle and also the #1 to "SNAP YOUR SHIT UP" so make sure you do it right. Follow the twinsmuscleworkout for the right advice.

Thumbs up.

[LilT2o00]

@kelvyfajardo While you should never use a smith machine, that's horrible reasoning. That's like saying bench press is worthless because you can do more than with dumbbell bench press (which I do prefer, but bench isn't worthless)

[kelvyfajardo]

@LilT2o00 READ MY COMMENT AGAIN and tell me if I said that because it's easier it's worthless.

all I'm trying to say is that because it is easier or less hard to perform it is less affective than free weights. Dumbbells are more affective than barbells but that doesn't mean that they are not affective, 1 is just more affective than the other and if you can't do free weights because of injuries or anything of course you still can work with the machines but you're not going to get the max result.

[LilT2o00]

@kelvyfajardo Fine, how about this. You can squat more weight with a barbell than you can with dumbbells, that doesn't make squatting with a barbell less effective.

Again, my point still stands. Horrible reasoning.

[smoothMousePad]

@kelvyfajardo Well, you know what they say... the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward.

[AntonSlizzardhands]

@twinmuscleworkout Not everyone has a twin brother to spot them mayne.

[sagun2007]

that was an angry do what the fuck you wanna do lmao

[cilo187]

-________- i got to use these machines till my planet fitness memeber ship ends in april....... ughhhhh

[IntelligentProbe]

Machines do 3 things which make them less effective;

1) They do not work your stabilizer muscles.

2) They produce a very specific muscle memory which is akin to sport specific fitness.

3) They could be forcing you to perform an exercise in such a way that is less effective for your body build.

When you go back to regular weights you not only have to rebuilding the stabilizer muscle strength but also the muscle memory as well. On the plus side, they allow spotter-free heavy workouts.

[michaelhrynkow]

Do a vid on advice for skinny teens trying to build muscle please

[Lakaiiiiii]

@michaelhrynkow Look thru their vids start from the beginning.

[kelvyfajardo]

@michaelhrynkow yeah, they have a hand full of vids for skinny teens.

make sure you follow and not exceed. you want to get bigger and stronger not fat.

[DontTread0nMe1776]

I'm sure I already know the answer, but where does a Bowflex rank?

[Joeyyowe]

I actually did more reps with free weights (dumbbell press) than the smith machine (bench press) and I did the smith machine before I did the dumbbell press.

[GaMeOuTtAcOnTrOl]

How do you stimulate the muscle fibers in your mushroom tip?!!!

[vsallbutme]

@GaMeOuTtAcOnTrOl you got to stoke it failer man

[h2dude69]

Jimmy Strutters is BACK!!

[shotbboy]

u gotta bring back the excessive sniffing! LOL

[JaypoyJay]

do a vid on carnitine!!!!!!!!

[DeusUniversa10]

I use smith machine and still build muscle so you can do whatever the FUCK YOU WANNA DO!

[RcKis0]

Dumbbell bench press > Barbell bench press.

[kingofweightloss]

Smith machines are for bitches

[dburnn]

In 10 years I want to see hodgetwin gyms all around da muthafuckin Woooorld!!

[MrBlaZeAdOoBiE]

@dburnn They should call them "All kinds of gains"

[JspecWunda]

@dburnn Yea I can picture the end of the gym tv advertisement where it says "At Hodgetwins gym you can do WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANNA DO!!!!!!!!"

[lakrs83423]

@dburnn Complete with curl racks!!!! ;)

[Drloveable1]

@dburnn HOW CAN YOU SEE THE HODGETWINS IN 10 YEARS TIME WHEN THE WORLD IS GOING TO END IN 2012?

[krystalcamron]

@Drloveable1 Heh fella theres something about this 2012 thats got me a bit freaked truely,I think something big and bad gonna happend and it might come from the EAST!!!

[labk88]

Another problem is that many gyms don't have dumbells heavy enough to do effective training.

[labk88]

you are correct, but there are many of us that don't have dedicated workout partners. Asking Jimmy Struthers to give you a spot is probably more dangerous than using a smith machine.

[TheBigREDgrin]

i went from 190 on a smith to a 80 dumbell..... felt like shit. but gotten good results since the switch, whats funny is i can do 230 on the smith if i want now

[07Redstang]

YOU WANNA BUILD SOME MUSCLE MAN.................. YOU ARE?? Well you at the right channel mayne

[ruushmore]

have yall tried shroomtech from onnit?

[ca9109]

do rubber plates make the bench easier because the weight does not shake? when i use the rubber plates i can lift a bit more. is this psychological?

[tbayguy]

well I workout alone and have a shoulder issue so I pretty much have to stick to machines with neutral grip so I dont hurt it. Takes forever for shoulder tendonitis to heal and if your not carefull and start doing stupid lateral stuff or bench you are never gonna heal it so I just have to suck it up and keep with machines

[DiaryOfAnEctomorph]

I'm a beginner and used a smith machine, maybe you missed my video response. Anyway, that's what my trainer said to use since I'm very new to this. Do you think the same rules apply that you're saying if my muscles are entirely new (meaning 3 weeks) to lifting weights?

[stas2000]

yeah why free 2 min advice?! why not a dvd box set about "Why Smith Machines are Not as Effective as Free Weights Exercises"

[jn010jn]

im just starting to work out and i bench press 40 pound dumbells if what your saying is true then barbell should be easier for me cosidering the bar is 20 pounds i should be able to slap 30 on each side no problem but i cant why is this

[Hobocommander4]

@jn010jn Is your bar really 20lbs? Because Olympic bars weigh 45. If it's not olympic then yea it's probably the weight you say it is.

[jn010jn]

@Hobocommander4 that might be it but idk it doesnt seem 45 ...are all the bars at the gym olympic? well anymways yea that might be it

[Hobocommander4]

@jn010jn Well all the ones at my gym are. Unless you're talking about a smith machine. those are usually counterbalanced. Just google images of olympic bars and if they look like those, it should be 45.

[jn010jn]

@Hobocommander4 nah im not talking about smith but yea i think that was it thx for the help

[shadowkontrol]

Without a spot, some of us are forced to do machines. :(

[Jordan121214]

Jimmy struthers Dislikes this video

[FFreeLevant]

Since I snapped, crackled and popped by low back, I now do smitch machine hack squat. Really works your legs and glutes with no stress on your lower back.

[lightingrings]

now bars vs dumbells

[FieldBoy111]

Funniest part of the video

1:28

[jaxblade07]

another reason planet fitness sucks

[jblove53]

I think you just over-anaylized the smith machine. I work out with 245lbs and 255 on incline bench. I can do the same on a regular bench. Other than the stabilization (which isn't as big of a deal as your making it to be) there is nothing differnent. You shouldn't lose any reps because unlike what you stated in the video, I didn't lose any reps.

[FieldBoy111]

Our small gym has this smith machine taking up a bunch of space. If i owned the place i would take that shit apart and haul that shit to the garbage dump. Then i would put a lifting platform or another power rack in there .

[efil4aggin92]

jimmy struther uses dumbbells on smith machines

[blueleaf1717]

absolutely LOVE u guys never stop making videos seriously!! all advice u give is rock solid and works for everyone i would say.. in the months i've been followin y'all the rest of my body is getting too big that my head looks very small!

[Mattycameron1]

Someone should do a compilation video of all the best endings and mushroom tip refrences from all the best hodgetwins videos

[srbrand04]

that's probably why my knees hurt after doing squats on the Smith machine

[teststudent3]

THIS HAPPENED TO ME WHEN I CHANGED GYMS FOR A WHILE!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[MustBe21orUp]

get rid of the echo on the catch phrase at the end. i liked it the original way.

[FakePlasticShrimp]

im 12 and im can lift my friends lol thanks 4 ur advise fellers.

[rageskillet]

using a smith is just asking for an injury

[nickstory]

@rageskillet how? it's safer than free weights... just not as effective...

[thetubesta]

So in order of effectiveness, it goes...Dumbbells, barbells, bodyweight exercises, cables then machines (including smith machine)?

[DallasCowboys4life]

smith machine is pretty lame..wooo dumbells and barbells. oh and hammer strength machines

[Joeyyowe]

What if you use both the smith machine and dumbbells? I usually use the smith machine first and then I move on to dumbbells.

[LeoYoungMusic]

i do dumbels and smith so i dont mind

[Brooklyn1530]

Jimmy Struthers uses the smith machine and he's gettin AWLLL TYPES O' GAAAAAIIINNSS!!!

[NaturalMuscularity]

strange i find smith better as have narrow shoulders and long arms

[ceecobeehan]

@NaturalMuscularity That cause you are only working in 1 plane of motion. Thats why you can lift heavier and more controlled in the smith. You are bringing none of your stabilzer muscles into play. After a while if you and a friend were lifting the same amount of time but he worked free weight, he would end up alot stronger than you. Free weight works 3 planes of motion.

[NaturalMuscularity]

@ceecobeehan

indeed, my shoulder like it more....:)

[chriswads]

But they give more videos, even if they are shorter. If they made them longer we would get the same material, except in one video......like jimmy struthers does on his channel. At least this way we get more intros and outros :D

[crushigloo]

Jimmy's back from snap city

[boondockssaint21]

Them shits be snapping my fucking wrists up when I use them to bench. Shitttttyyt

[em0sdnaH]

my name is tyrone jackson ;(

[1320steelers]

make longer vids please

[Gooknukem]

Using Smtih machines don't allow you to active the muscle fibers that stabilize the weight during bench/shoulder press.

[silverhalo22]

@Gooknukem How about squats on smith vs free weights.

[Gooknukem]

@silverhalo22 Usually the same principle. But squats on the smith is the absolute worst! I believe the Twins did a video no squats in the smith machine a long time ago.

[tomconjalka]

Life has no meaning without the HODGE TWINS!

[ysuicidey]

why are videos only 2-3 minutes long now.. seem rushed

[hoocaughtdat]

@ysuicidey People complain when they are too long, people complain when they are too short

[jay11101]

@ysuicidey Youtube partners make more money that way

[Rockylols]

@ysuicidey cause their intros used to be 1 minute long lol

[Turok676]

@ysuicidey cuz keith kicked kevin's ass for taking too long and interrupting hahaha jk

[MENDOZZA1011]

@ysuicidey rushed to get some suga waaaalls

[chronicleavez]

@ysuicidey It's only a small piece of advice, how could it be any longer?

[snicks1990]

@ysuicidey they do have a life you know

[TheWizardTobe]

@ysuicidey

Short and intense.

[marsh9090]

@ysuicidey videos seem rushed because Kevin isn't bullshitting for like 30 seconds a video lol

[bobthebuilder12346]

@ysuicidey there probably busy doing WHAT EVER THE FUCK THEY WANNNNNNNNNNAAAAAA DOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOO O O O O O O

[AMPepin1992]

@ysuicidey They're running out of stuff to talk about. lol

[thunder72191]

@ysuicidey their zeal is waning



[Marticorena44]

@ysuicidey who cares they've got busy ass lives, plus they make like 3-4 videos a day Monday to Friday its not like its once a week....

[IrishRhavin]

So just for the sake of building muscle, we should stick to dumbells first and foremost? Even if that means lifting less weight?

i'm without a spotter at the moment so i like that idea

[kcirross]

@IrishRhavin yeah dumbells are good without a spot or use barbells and ask a person at the gym to spot you im sure they will

[carreraGT92]

don't you hate it when you don't know if it's a fart or little bit of shit coming out your ass, especially after a protein shake

[NaNaNaN990]

question.... do you count weight of the bar when you use a smith machine, and how much does it weigh?

[rampagetapout]

Fuck people who say first but i guess at the end of the dayyyyy, u can say whatever the fuck u wanna say

[swiftfighter94]

Damn mayne first it was the man boobs now its the scars across the dudes chest! Wassup wid dat!

[DonkeyKongTie]

@tomconjalka you fail'd me.

[DonkeyKongTie]

13th

[tomconjalka]

FIRST .....on the next video... ha ha hodge twin bitches! LMAO!

[Money10094]

12th

[JesseArrr]

5rd

[ImR3tard]

why is that so important for people to be first ???

[thesuperjooda]

last

[lol4481]

24 views!!

FOR SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[piddy7341]

thats good man



[shurdawg]

Fucking ford and chuck norris commercials, get the fuck lost.

[piddy7341]

than download addblock for firefox @shurdawg

[93NissanAltima]

Why do people crave that first comment spot?

[DesignZxD]

First

[SKillitFish]

first again :D <3

[MrPhipper]

1rd