Oh.. the fact that Ron Paul has only 11% of all popular votes, Santorum has 18%, Gingrich has 27% and Romney has 39% is all due to 'voting fraud'? LMAO
Well if you Paulbots are soooo intelligent you should be able to do a Scooby Doo and find the evidence for us all to see....
Otherwise you are just peddling conspiracies like your leader...
@darktengu77 General Electric, Walt Disney, News Corp., Time Warner, Viacom and CBS are the "Big 6" media corporations that own and establish the information the public gets to hear. Now why would those "Big 6" want to have coverage over Ron Paul, who is against monopolies/corporatism? The fact is is that he needs media coverage to get "popular votes" dumbass. something Ron Paul hardly got for the first 6 to 7 months of his campaign. Now have a Scooby snack bitch!
Ron Paul is the only candidate that can actually make the difference and change America so desperately needs right now, during a time of great turmoil. Rick Santorum is just another example of someone projecting their lies onto an innocent man. RON PAUL 2012
This is JUNK. a 10sec excerpt without a response. it's really just Influence peddling.
Ron Paul not getting votes?Check out Voting fraud. The media doesn't even report real news, just what they are told to report. As we have seen with obama, if the media (their owners) are on your side you can be a waste, a total f*up and still "SEEM" like something special.
@darktengu77 I guess its possible that people have multiple accounts and go around looking for videos to vote up or down depending on the candidates, but I've noticed that Ron Paul has a lot more positive influence inside not only youtube, but the internet in general. If you compare all four of the candidates on (g o o g l e trends), you will notice a huge difference in favor of Ron Paul against the other three candidates, almost nation wide.
But it certainly doesn't translate into votes. He is last in the popular vote. Obviously his supporters are more active online, but they obviously aren't convincing many people.
To be honest, his supporters with their unusual zeal tend to make him look even more strange.
@darktengu77 What do you mean by make him look strange? I've not noticed any strange talking points or arguments from him, they seem quite logical. As for the active online support, yes i believe this is true, more and more people happen to agree with him and it shows quite a lot. I'd also like to believe that the huge online support groups are also voting, if that is the case, wouldn't he had won at least one state by now? seems like the difference in hes favor is quite impressive.
Look at your fellow Paulbot who posted after you... yes, RPbots are very quick to claim conspiracy - LOL the last time I heard such readiness to jump to conspiracies I was sitting in a cafe in the Middle East!
I mean if you guys all had just one YT account each and didn't spend 2 hrs a day campaigning for RP by spamming videos - we'd probably have more respect for him... but seriously, your desperate zeal makes Amway look normal...
Out of all the debates I've seen of Ron Paul he is the one who keeps on subject, the one who wants to keep speaking the truth, others make silly little 'jokes' or don't take it even slightly serious. It's a debate on Presidential elections, not who is going to replace the Honorable Secretary for the parents teachers association.
@the2step he won those states because of backwoods bible humpers. don't get me wrong I think everyone is free to think how they please, but they are still idiots.
What did he win, the fly-over states? There's a reason they are called "the fly-over states". Only a state full of complete backwards-thinking neanderthals would go for Rick Santorum. Ron Paul is the only sane candidate, including Barack Obama, and I would STILL choose Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich over Santorum. I mean, there's bad, and then there's Santorum. People who voted Santorum should be ashamed of themselves.
Make him win, vote and convince at least 10 of your friends to vote. This is a people choice revolution we have to make a difference this time. Turn every vote into the power of 10. talk is talk, so lets walk the walk to Washington with Ron Paul 2012
I really do feel like Santorum is a big ass child up there. God I'll be so embarrassed if I have to have him as my president for four years. Literally I'm talking red faced ashamed. I'm going to have to cut ties with my friends in Europe because I'll be too ashamed to speak to them
@idiotsavant8 Im up here in Canada... and my mind is about to explode because Santorum is getting soo much "positive attention" from the media. He is a complete buffon.. a child as you put it.. I laugh tirelessly everytime I hear santorium say sumthing. Yet.. people are falling for his crap. RP2012
@idiotsavant8 Big ass child with his eye on more big ass government intrusion. No worries, man. Santorum has no hope of winning the election even if he gets the nomination, which I doubt. Ron Paul 2012!
If you honestly don't automatically pick up on how sleazy santorum is just by his body language and dumb smirks(which is really just his way of coping with not having a clue what is going on), then you are an idiot. This dude is one sketchy fake person.
The sometimes frothy, usually slimy, amalgam of lubricant, stray fecal matter, and ejaculate that leaks out of the receiving partner's anus after a session of anal intercourse. Named, by popular demand and usage, after legislator Rick Santorum because of his homophobic political statements.
@bigdingding77 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
I am not American but I urge everyone to support this message to America:
You have a once in a GENERATION opportunity to elect a true patriot and visionary to the White House.
Do NOT ignore this man by falling for the scare tactics of the mass media and puppet candidates owned by Wall Street.
Ron Paul's words can be hard to accept. His policies will be hard to adopt. Elect Ron Paul, not because it is easy, but because it is the hard thing to do! Take back your constitution and liberty!
Lubricant mixed with fecal matter, as a byproduct of anal sex; Shit: rubbish, worthless matter. And that's from wikipedia. Why would we want a president who's name literally means shit mixture as our president?
I don't like your Rick Scrotum. Your what is wrong with America. A two party system for the elite Dick Heads. Go ahead and waste your vote on these guys and see how it makes your life better. You are all so stupid.
that was pretty childish and rude of Santorum no matter how much he believed that. Dr. Paul would never say anything like that - he's a classy old-school gentleman in the truest sense of the word.
@M1O71 Totally agree. It's childish, but it seems that it reflects the masses intellect when it come to voting. It's all about one-liners and flatter.
@M1O71 I could never vote for this man. He has shown more than once that he's not fit to be president, in both how he acts and his views. Ron Paul is the only one talking sense and real change, vote ron paul 2012!!
dont interrupt him rick. im pretty sure ron already smacked you down once for doing that. lol and speaking of not telling the truth. look no further than rick santorum.
My plan to get Ron Paul elected: I'm starting a Ron Paul Bumper sticker chain letter. Anyone who wants a free Bumper sticker email me your mailing address to prezpaul12@gmail.com and I'll mail you one for free. Then, you want to continue the chain, mail off 10 Bumper stickers to other supporters at no cost to them. So on and so on until 63 million bumper stickers are on the roads in the US, Canada, and the UK. The Media bias loses its power. People Vote for Ron Paul. America wins.
This video has absolutely no credibility without showing us what the lie is. Why didn't you include the accusation AND Mr. Paul's response? Afraid of the truth yourself?
I personally feel attacked and sad when looking at Rons face at the end. Even though I dont know him I feel I have a connection with him. That douche Santorum just insulted me I feel.
@crazyknight2008 if african americans were able to get "all the benefits [they] want" there would be none still in need or lacking education or opportunity etc...those "benefits" are quite costly in the end...and are never enough to live on or prepare one to move out of that situation....its more of a trap than a benefit. I'm sure any would trade a college education and high paying employment for those alleged benefits any day of the week.
Ron Paul is for relativism, which doesn't exist. There is liberal/conservative, take your pick. If you like Obama who wants to dictate you and couldn't care less about what you think, then vote for him. If not, go Santorum, who believe government should serve the people, not the other way around.
@OccasionalComments I seem to remember Americans voting for Obama because they wanted healthcare reform. That was one of his campaign promises. Also, the big bank bailouts happened in 2008. Obama didn't take office until January 2009.
i like how whoever put this video up probably meant to put it up to discredit ron paul and make him look bad but the comments of the people who watched it already know the truth and it didnt discourage Ron paul supporters lol trolololing /\ im just lololing..stupid
@VengenceOfHansenmol The sad part Is he will come too close to winning. There is stupid people. I think the reason he would get votes are stupid people just voting because they can. They'll say "uhh,well I know that guy's name and things usually turn out well for ME no matter who wins,so whatever I pick this guy"
@nintendude24 Just because someone doesn't like Ron Paul doesn't mean their stupid. It means I'm a liberal who expects government to do certain things. Just because Ron Paul has the outward appearance of having integrity in the midst of a bunch of jackasses, doesn't mean he is the savior. This Paul fanaticism reminds me a lot of the Obama fever that swept the nation in 2008. Just saying..
@screaminpman If anything, I think Mitt Romney is very similar to Obama. Ron Paul is a libertarian, in other words, the exact opposite of Obama. I do agree too much liberty is a problem, but so is too much government.
@screaminpman Sorry. I didn't mean to call you stupid,I meant large people who vote don't know anything about who they're voting for,I just pointed that out.
@VengenceOfHansenmol How about because he wants America to be governed by the constitution the way it was intended to be from the start. Nothing more American than that. Was that a joke or are you serious?
He is the last thing that would abide by the constitution.
1. Congress declares war, NOT THE PRESIDENT.
2. Did you hear him say he thinks woman shouldn't be allowed in combat in the military?
3. He is for a U.S. Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage AND domestic partnerships.
The list continues... What happened to equal protection under the Constitution? Don't vote for Santorum seriously....He's a total clown he has you fooled.
@VengenceOfHansenmol When the constitution was written, were women serving on the front lines in war? Were homosexuals getting married? Hell no. Santorem wants to bring back America and the values and morals and common sense it was founded on. He is not "MTV" like Obama, he is mature and actually cares about you, not just hollywood. Marriage has and always will have a natural definition and purpose, it is not something that the government decides, but a God given right.
@OccasionalComments Ok. So woman shouldn't have the right to vote, or be able to be elected officials. African Americans should be considered property. No interracial marriage. Theses are old traditional values that America was founded on. So your argument is invalid.
And morals have to be made by someone, you can't argue morals because everyone has a different idea of what is morally right or wrong. President can't impose his personal beliefs on the rest of the people.
@VengenceOfHansenmol no, not founded on those things, those things were cultural side issues and based on very different circumstances than we now experience. Not right by any means, OR moral; Women and children were also considered "property" until fairly recently, if female, couldn't inherit or become owners of landed estates etc. there r universal morals; instinct informs us;no killing, theft, lying,stealing a spouse, etc.wrong.we call those w/out such observances or recognition "sociopaths".
@VengenceOfHansenmol I wouldn't say America was "founded" on them just because they existed at the same time. The family (traditional marriage) and men fighting wars though, are foundational. Everyone can have different ideas about morals, but they are naturally defined by God. Life is conception, marriage is union between man and woman, morals are love one another. A truly Christian president will care for his people, whether you believe in his God or not, he will love you
@OccasionalComments And if you claim that god defines morals as one love another, why do people in the name of religion promote so much hate towards certain groups of people. Religion causes more wars than ANYTHING ELSE. The idea of religion is great, but people take it way too seriously & promote so much hate out of it and ruin the whole entire purpose of religion. And the president has no right to tell me what is right or wrong. I have the right to believe what i want.
@VengenceOfHansenmol There's no such thing as taking your belief in God "too seriously," because it's not an 'idea,' it's your reality. When extremist use religion to justify acts of violence, it's not religion's fault. I could say you caused me to beat my wife tonight, but that's just casting the blame. You haven't done anything wrong. Religion based on love obviously doesn't cause violence, it's just an easy target for hypocrites.
@VengenceOfHansenmol And you can believe what you want, but there's only one truth. Either it's right or it's wrong. I can believe murder is right all i want, but it doesn't make it so and it doesn't mean there shouldn't be any laws or government that challenges my belief. An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up. All are not equal, contrary to popular... opinion.
@OccasionalComments; alleged witches were being hung/burned and crushed back then too...that's your man there. yes women were, but not usually as soldiers. Nurses however were right there, ammo packers, lots out there on front line encampments AND battlefields. Santorum cares about what you do, not you in general.He's warmonger w/totalitarian ideals he'd love to push on 2 u.He also has some very questionable moments in his past...some you should look in to if you are going to tout him as a saint
@preparadox as far as i can see he doesn't have anything that is questionable about his personal life whatsoever, unlike every other candidate. he didn't say women can't be in war, just not on front lines. Santorum is no saint (he's a politician!), but he is devoutly Catholic, it's not an act. Therefore he actually does care about people, AND what they do. If you don't believe in God, fine, but realize that those who really do and aren't hypocrites do care about you.
@OccasionalComments President shouldn't impose his standards and beliefs on Americans. This nation was formed for religious freedom. Now a guy wants to impose his beliefs on everyone else who may not agree? Just because marriage has 'traditionally' been between man & woman, doesn't mean anything.
It used to be tradition that blacks were slaves. Things change, the nation changes. Claiming tradition isn't an argument because most traditions back then are now seen as ridiculous.
@VengenceOfHansenmol "In God We Trust" is still on our money. This nation was founded under Christianity. Christianity supports religious freedom, so America has always been about it, but it also has operated under Christian morals, like love your neighbor, don't kill, etc. Santorum is not imposing anything new. If you read what I said, 'tradition' was not part of my argument, it was used to define what I meant by family. Traditional marriage produces offspring and family
@OccasionalComments Yes but "In god we trust" isn't connecting itself with one particular religion. America is diverse, that's why they don't recognize one religion over another. Saying god is very vague as it could relate to billions of what each individual defines god as.
But we don't need god to define morals for us. I don't believe in god, and know not to kill, lie, ect... I can think & reason for myself. I don't need god to do that for me.
You say your opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up. Well where is your evidence of the existence of god? Why should we worship a man(or woman) that would sentence us to an eternity of hell if we do not obey him?
I can't expect a logical response from you other than "Faith" which by definition is belief without evidence, just wanted to point out a flaw in your previous argument.
@VengenceOfHansenmol There is more evidence for the existence of God than the opposite. The fact that we are here, the intelligent design of the universe. These things are more likely to have been created than just randomly existing. Everything has a beginning in which it is produced from something else, nothing just comes into existence on it's own. So logically there must have been something already existing, always existing, for the first created thing to exist..continued
@OccasionalComments And now to your comment that, "Everything has a beginning in which it is produced from something else, nothing just comes into existence on it's own. So logically there must have been something already existing, always existing, for the first created thing to exist"
Then who created god? I'm going to assume you won't be able to answer that... so with that said, you can't use everything has a starting point as an argument. Again, flaw.
@VengenceOfHansenmol you do not read closely enough. Every CREATED thing has a starting point, does it not? So the first created thing must have come from something uncreated, thus "always existing" (no starting point). God could not have failed to exist, he is creator, not created. by the way, Dec of Independence states we are endowed with rights by our CREATOR. look it up if you think God isn't foundational to Amercia
@OccasionalComments Yes, we are given rights by our creator, but what you fail to understand the purpose of what that means. It means that the government does not give you those rights. Because if it were government given rights, then they would have the ability to take them away from you. Therefore they state it in a way to make it so the government is not allowed to take these rights.
And again like I said before, it is vague, it is not picking one religion over the other.
@OccasionalComments Yes, we are given rights by our creator, but what you fail to understand the purpose of what that means. It means that the government does not give you those rights. Because if it were government given rights, then they would have the ability to take them away from you. Therefore they state it in a way to make it so the government is not allowed to take these rights.
And again like I said before, it is vague, it is not picking one religion over the other.
@OccasionalComments Yes, we are given rights by our creator, but what you fail to understand the purpose of what that means. It means that the government does not give you those rights. Because if it were government given rights, then they would have the ability to take them away from you. Therefore they state it in a way to make it so the government is not allowed to take these rights.
And again like I said before, it is vague, it is not picking one religion over the other
@VengenceOfHansenmol Yeah I agree with that, but they are stating that because they believe it is true, not just so the government can't take away rights. That fact is just a reality of the belief. And I didn't say it was picking one religion over the other, but they were Christian, and ultimately believed in God. You still didn't say anything about my main point of evidence, the fact the Jews believed Jesus to be God. Something extraordinary happened to bring that about
@VengenceOfHansenmol I think the best evidence though is that Christianity exists. It is completely irrational that a Jew in Jesus' time, who wouldn't even speak the name of their God (Yahweh) out of respect and unworthiness, would suddenly proclaim another Jewish man (Jesus) to be God himself! The fact that this belief spread to the extent that it did, and has, is all the proof I need to believe that Christ is who he said he is, and who his disciples proclaimed him to be.
@VengenceOfHansenmol And one more thing, you've tried to point out 3 "flaws" in my arguments, yet after I respond it is clear that I haven't erred in the ways you claim, so you should wait for a response before assuming a flaw. And by the way, if God is going to send you to hell for not obeying him, I'd say that's a pretty good reason to obey! you'd be missing the point of course, but still better than eternal suffering, no? Check out "Paschal's Wager"
@OccasionalComments There is actually evidence that suggests that we as humans exist as we do today based on scientific theories that have ACTUAL evidence which supports it while making it physically possible. Things such as the big bang theory, evolution, ect... all answer the things you claimed to be the work of god, with actual REAL evidence that suggests otherwise rather than work of god. The only thing that backs up your statement seems to be your word. So,... try again.
@VengenceOfHansenmol science supporting how things work does not discredit the belief in God whatsoever. Who's to say God did not design evolution. Big Bang? Where did the bang come from? What created the rocks that "banged" and somehow produced the human race? If anything is flawed, it's that you use scientific understanding to somehow contrast God, as if the reason instilled in human beings that is used in empirical study would not have come from a Creator. ???
@OccasionalComments There is a scientific explanation of how the big bang happened. Look it up yourself. It makes more since rather than something waving a magic wand and making it all appear because he was bored one day and thought it would be fun.
God simply making matter appear out of nowhere defies the laws of physics, it can't happen. THAT IS A FACT.
There is actual evidence that supports all of these without the work of god. there is NO REAL evidence of god.
@VengenceOfHansenmol There is no scientific proof as to where the first created thing came from. If you can explain where the bang came from, you can just keep going back until you come to the same question, what created the first thing? So if God is all powerful, he couldn't defy the laws of physics? It's not appearing from nowhere, it's coming from the Life Source that is God. He created things for us, and us for himself, because he is Love and love is union with others.
@OccasionalComments Look it works both ways. you can't prove 100% that god does exist, just like i can't prove 100% that god doesn't exist.
Because we can't exactly test these accurately with 100% conclusiveness. This is an argument that will go on forever because there are 2 never ending sides to each argument. I don't have a problem with people believing in god, its your right. But I do have a problem with people imposing their beliefs on me and attempting to force me.
@VengenceOfHansenmol Correct. What is Santorum trying to force you to do though? Any president is going to have their own beliefs they govern by, but he isn't taking away rights. Santorum is for freedom of religion, unlike Obama, who tries to force the Catholic Church to accept contraception and abortion in their health care.
@OccasionalComments Well, he wants to make certain laws that are in accordance to the bible (One obvious example Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage or even legal rights of same sex couples).
Imagine if the president imposed Aharia law on the American people, that would be outrageous! right? But if a President can sign/veto bills based off of his catholic beliefs that would directly affect some people then it's okay? It's the same concept.
@VengenceOfHansenmol To paraphrase his words, marriage is a privilege, not an unalienable right. Privileges are given for the betterment of society. Marriage produces children and family, same-sex "marriage" does nothing, so therefore the privilege should not be granted. This is the way it has always been until recently under this crazy administration, so I don't think the fact he wants to ban it is too surprising, nor is it based on his religion, it just happens to coincide
@OccasionalComments Even if it does nothing, who cares? But to amend the constitution is totally unnecessary to define something that is already in the dictionary. We already know what marriage is all about. We don't need a new definition or argue over a definition as to what marriage is or isn't. The states should be able to handle it themselves. Adding a constitutional amendment just makes more government, its unnecessary.
@Bobloblawman actually he wants you to live your life how you want, not force anything on you except the constitution and dec of independ., unlike obama who doesn't allow people to follow their Church teachings that go back 2000 years.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in anal sex because they find it disguisting. They just give eachother blowjobs instead.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in anal sex because they find it disguisting. They just do oral.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in anal sex because they find it disguisting. They just do oral.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't like doing it back there. They just do it orally on eachothers wangs.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in a_n_a_l s_e_x because they find it disguisting. They just engage in o_r_a_l s_e_x instead.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should have the same rights and be treated equally regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, nationality or social class.
@VengenceOfHansenmol And he's a clown... Why? Sure, you caught me.. I DEFINITELY let the media make up my own opinion. Even though, COINCIDENTALLY, below your comment are 2 people saying he's a clown. Could it be any more obvious that you're listening to the crowd, and following them? Completely ignoring Ron Paul's half-witted statements? This point in time is the time when EVERYONE follows the crowd to judge their opinions. God, please don't let this psycho run America.
@mechaspark1 Go to see all comments. Press "CRTL F" and search clown, I called him a clown in my comment 4 days ago. Try again buddy.
This guy is a complete child, I mean listen to what he said, and you want that trash being president?He's a bigot, promotes hate, wants to start preemptive attacks, wants to spend your money unwisely, he is going to further bankrupt this country by spending money that it DOESNT HAVE, the dollar will crash. Our security will be threatened with no money
@VengenceOfHansenmol Even then, you still proved my point. People are following what YOU say, and you're most likely following them as well. Try again, "buddy". Just because of one thing Rick said, you suddenly think he's a bad person? Listen to what Ron Paul said about 9/11. He was booed by 70% of the audience for it. Though I've honestly never heard Rick promoting hatred or trying to attack. And spending? I'm pretty positive he's trying to cut the spending, not enhance it.
@mechaspark1 So because he was booed by a portion of the audience that must mean he's wrong? what you can't think and reason for yourself?
Here, i really encourage you to watch this video, it provides a really good history lesson on a more probable reason as to why they attacked us, and why the government is so involved in the middle east, I think you'll find it interesting too.
@VengenceOfHansenmol We can't stop war. Ever. Ron Paul is foolish to think that you can stop war. War is what protects our freedom. If we didn't have it, America would be doomed.
@mechaspark1 Wow you are brainwashed.... Please just watch the video that I linked you'll have a better understanding.
But how do you expect to pay for this war, $15 Trillion in debt, dollar is crashing, where is the money going to come from to pay for this "war"? The military doesn't even know what they are supposed to be doing. Just because you spend a billion $ on an embassy in Iraq you think that makes us safer? I think that's a waste.
@VengenceOfHansenmol How many times have I explained I'm not brainwashed? The only brainwashed individual here is you. 90% of Ron Paul videos have mindless zombies in the comments saying "Ron Paul 2012", and you support them? How am I brainwashed? I'm turned away from the crowd and heading my own direction. And if we didn't have the brave soldiers fighting for us, we wouldn't be here arguing, thinking this would help matters. I already sense it's too late for America though.
@mechaspark1 If you support these wars so much, do you support them enough to actually go out there and join the military, as well as your kids, your grand kids whatever?
@VengenceOfHansenmol There are thousands of people out there who are willing to aid the war. I'm not one of them. You support stopping the war so much, go do it. See where it goes
@mechaspark1 Already am, along with 85% of active military and veterans who also support Ron Paul. Thanks for the debate good luck on your state's primary or caucus.
@VengenceOfHansenmol So you're saying, the people join to fight wars, but are against them? I've come to the conclusion that I'm wasting my time, walking around in circles.
@mechaspark1 There will not "always" be a war. There hasn't "always" been a war. There have been times of peace, and we can still have times of peace. Just because the MSM is always talking about war doesn't mean there will always be a war. And war does not make people safe. Peace is what is safe. This is intuitive. And RP's predictions have proven to be true (housing crisis, 9/11, economy, civil liberties lost, etc).
@mechaspark1 Don't confuse enthusiasm with brainwashing. Brainwashing is what media and public schools do to people daily. Until you've read at least a few books or many articles by the likes of Tom Woods, Robert Murphy, Peter Schiff, Andrew Napolitano, Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Ludwig von Mises, FA Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Murray Rothbard, Tom Dilorenzo, or Doug French, you will likely remain one of the brainwashed masses because you haven't armed yourself with the required background information.
If only each YT account had 1 vote...
Then RP would have 98% of the popular vote instead of 11%....
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Oh.. the fact that Ron Paul has only 11% of all popular votes, Santorum has 18%, Gingrich has 27% and Romney has 39% is all due to 'voting fraud'? LMAO
Well if you Paulbots are soooo intelligent you should be able to do a Scooby Doo and find the evidence for us all to see....
Otherwise you are just peddling conspiracies like your leader...
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@darktengu77 General Electric, Walt Disney, News Corp., Time Warner, Viacom and CBS are the "Big 6" media corporations that own and establish the information the public gets to hear. Now why would those "Big 6" want to have coverage over Ron Paul, who is against monopolies/corporatism? The fact is is that he needs media coverage to get "popular votes" dumbass. something Ron Paul hardly got for the first 6 to 7 months of his campaign. Now have a Scooby snack bitch!
xodis911 9 minutes ago
Ron Paul is the only candidate that can actually make the difference and change America so desperately needs right now, during a time of great turmoil. Rick Santorum is just another example of someone projecting their lies onto an innocent man. RON PAUL 2012
MissesKipperCat 2 hours ago
This is JUNK. a 10sec excerpt without a response. it's really just Influence peddling.
Ron Paul not getting votes?Check out Voting fraud. The media doesn't even report real news, just what they are told to report. As we have seen with obama, if the media (their owners) are on your side you can be a waste, a total f*up and still "SEEM" like something special.
ironmenunited 10 hours ago
HA!..."caught you not telling the truth"...that bell wouldnt even let Santorum speak if that were the case.
msullivan85 1 day ago
@msullivan85 So true. So true...
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 day ago
Satorum is very juvenile and a huge BIGOT AND IDIOT!!!!
362jem 1 day ago
30 likes, 652 dislikes
LadyCassandra00001 1 day ago
@LadyCassandra00001
652 dislikes
"Hell has no fury like an RP fanboi scorned"
Each one of them has 65 YT accounts....
darktengu77 1 day ago
@darktengu77 I guess its possible that people have multiple accounts and go around looking for videos to vote up or down depending on the candidates, but I've noticed that Ron Paul has a lot more positive influence inside not only youtube, but the internet in general. If you compare all four of the candidates on (g o o g l e trends), you will notice a huge difference in favor of Ron Paul against the other three candidates, almost nation wide.
LadyCassandra00001 23 hours ago
@LadyCassandra00001
But it certainly doesn't translate into votes. He is last in the popular vote. Obviously his supporters are more active online, but they obviously aren't convincing many people.
To be honest, his supporters with their unusual zeal tend to make him look even more strange.
darktengu77 21 hours ago
@darktengu77 What do you mean by make him look strange? I've not noticed any strange talking points or arguments from him, they seem quite logical. As for the active online support, yes i believe this is true, more and more people happen to agree with him and it shows quite a lot. I'd also like to believe that the huge online support groups are also voting, if that is the case, wouldn't he had won at least one state by now? seems like the difference in hes favor is quite impressive.
LadyCassandra00001 21 hours ago
@LadyCassandra00001
Look at your fellow Paulbot who posted after you... yes, RPbots are very quick to claim conspiracy - LOL the last time I heard such readiness to jump to conspiracies I was sitting in a cafe in the Middle East!
I mean if you guys all had just one YT account each and didn't spend 2 hrs a day campaigning for RP by spamming videos - we'd probably have more respect for him... but seriously, your desperate zeal makes Amway look normal...
darktengu77 57 minutes ago
He's insulting Ron Paul's character when Ron Paul is the most upstanding person on the stage.
DarthJeffery 1 day ago 3
Out of all the debates I've seen of Ron Paul he is the one who keeps on subject, the one who wants to keep speaking the truth, others make silly little 'jokes' or don't take it even slightly serious. It's a debate on Presidential elections, not who is going to replace the Honorable Secretary for the parents teachers association.
Lolp821 1 day ago 5
Typical. Santorum coming out of Santorum's mouth.
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lovegurumofo 1 day ago
If you base your your voting record on this. Then, please, don' t vote.
pweiss1983 2 days ago
wow.. what if Ann Culler and Santorum had a baby... THAT would be some whack ass shit on the funny farm!
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Sontage54 2 days ago
They didn't even give what he previously stated before Rick Scrotum said that. This is ignorant as fuck.
devilskullsixtysix 2 days ago
Rick Santorum is a waste of carbon atoms.
Membrane556 2 days ago 7
Rick Santorum is a bitch cunt!
louie000007 2 days ago 5
here's another quote by rick santorum - I'm a fuckin idiot
BboyArmo 2 days ago
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I call him Rick Scrotum.
Membrane556 2 days ago 2
fuck santorum cant believe he has actaully won some states he would be such a bad presidnet
the2step 2 days ago
@the2step he won those states because of backwoods bible humpers. don't get me wrong I think everyone is free to think how they please, but they are still idiots.
litenuts 2 days ago
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What did he win, the fly-over states? There's a reason they are called "the fly-over states". Only a state full of complete backwards-thinking neanderthals would go for Rick Santorum. Ron Paul is the only sane candidate, including Barack Obama, and I would STILL choose Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich over Santorum. I mean, there's bad, and then there's Santorum. People who voted Santorum should be ashamed of themselves.
JoeyBatz 2 days ago
@JoeyBatz obama is ass
itzgangstabob 2 days ago
if anyone wants to know, the dick head who said that was George Stephonopholous. He's a notorious dick to Ron Paul.
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smokeradar 3 days ago
I love how he just shakes that incredibly childish remark off and continues.
BiigWigglyStyle 3 days ago 2
I really do feel like Santorum is a big ass child up there. God I'll be so embarrassed if I have to have him as my president for four years. Literally I'm talking red faced ashamed. I'm going to have to cut ties with my friends in Europe because I'll be too ashamed to speak to them
idiotsavant8 3 days ago 5
@idiotsavant8 I'll finish my book and move to effing brazil and marry my girlfriend there.
dutchmcgee101 3 days ago
@idiotsavant8 Im up here in Canada... and my mind is about to explode because Santorum is getting soo much "positive attention" from the media. He is a complete buffon.. a child as you put it.. I laugh tirelessly everytime I hear santorium say sumthing. Yet.. people are falling for his crap. RP2012
PhilippoChannel 2 days ago 6
@idiotsavant8 Big ass child with his eye on more big ass government intrusion. No worries, man. Santorum has no hope of winning the election even if he gets the nomination, which I doubt. Ron Paul 2012!
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MrLeonardfalkland 3 days ago
If you honestly don't automatically pick up on how sleazy santorum is just by his body language and dumb smirks(which is really just his way of coping with not having a clue what is going on), then you are an idiot. This dude is one sketchy fake person.
thecharliecollins 4 days ago 5
gee, i dunno, 13 seconds? a little beyond my attention span.
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Do you know what Santorum means?
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rooki32012 5 days ago
I don't like your Rick Scrotum. Your what is wrong with America. A two party system for the elite Dick Heads. Go ahead and waste your vote on these guys and see how it makes your life better. You are all so stupid.
Tohoku87 5 days ago
that was pretty childish and rude of Santorum no matter how much he believed that. Dr. Paul would never say anything like that - he's a classy old-school gentleman in the truest sense of the word.
FWYGINOND 5 days ago
Ok, I have to ask. Who votes for Santorum?
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tjsaxman9 5 days ago
Watch the Rick Santorum booed off stage in New Hampshire video.
geezusispan 5 days ago
i don't get this video. what did he not tell the truth about allegedly???
ShipDipTheChips 5 days ago
That's incredibly childish and has no place in a political debate. I would not vote for a politician this juvenile, and also because he is insane.
M1O71 5 days ago 78
@M1O71 Totally agree. It's childish, but it seems that it reflects the masses intellect when it come to voting. It's all about one-liners and flatter.
wexxxxx 4 days ago
@M1O71 politicians are entitled to some fun (I'm pro ron paul btw)
JONEDA28 1 day ago
@M1O71 I could never vote for this man. He has shown more than once that he's not fit to be president, in both how he acts and his views. Ron Paul is the only one talking sense and real change, vote ron paul 2012!!
mrcheeta28 30 minutes ago
dont interrupt him rick. im pretty sure ron already smacked you down once for doing that. lol and speaking of not telling the truth. look no further than rick santorum.
satchelmcqueenvideo 5 days ago 3
Santorum is the funniest clown since Palin! hahahahahah What a douche!
geezusispan 5 days ago 4
rick is a dork Ron Paul all the way
bakersfieldmusicnow 5 days ago
I like the part where there was context
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redeyesawake2006 6 days ago
This video has absolutely no credibility without showing us what the lie is. Why didn't you include the accusation AND Mr. Paul's response? Afraid of the truth yourself?
MegaGlaive 6 days ago
Meanwhile in America...
riddleman65 6 days ago
@tommywalks that's fucking hilarious. Ron Paul 2012
YouCommandIObey 6 days ago 38
@YouCommandIObey Ron Paul fans are spreading "Ron Paul 2012" on every political video. God help us all.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
Rick suxzzzzz
ABAZAN81082 6 days ago
I personally feel attacked and sad when looking at Rons face at the end. Even though I dont know him I feel I have a connection with him. That douche Santorum just insulted me I feel.
itsgordonyadigg 1 week ago
@itsgordonyadigg SAME HERE!!!
melvincooper1 6 days ago
Rick can suck a Dick! Ron should use that after he owns Rick's cheap haircut looking ass!
FlyingBanana213 1 week ago
the silence after Santorum made that comment was awesome, Ron we can see how you feel. you'll get your revenge one day mate.
EpicFacePalmz0r 1 week ago
I'm waiting for Paul to say to Santorum, "YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN ADULTS ARE TALKING".
yugozastava13 1 week ago
Haha, lighten up, people. It was a funny moment, one of the few we have to look forward to in politics.
OnyxianHeart 1 week ago
Rick a liar
RonPaulRepublic 1 week ago
@preparadox so what is affirmative action, can a white person get on the affirmative action program ??
crazyknight2008 1 week ago
so if i was born in south africa and im white, i can call myself an african american and get all the benefits i want :)...
crazyknight2008 1 week ago
@crazyknight2008 if african americans were able to get "all the benefits [they] want" there would be none still in need or lacking education or opportunity etc...those "benefits" are quite costly in the end...and are never enough to live on or prepare one to move out of that situation....its more of a trap than a benefit. I'm sure any would trade a college education and high paying employment for those alleged benefits any day of the week.
preparadox 1 week ago
Takes one to know one, I suppose.
UltraNicator 1 week ago
Ron Paul is for relativism, which doesn't exist. There is liberal/conservative, take your pick. If you like Obama who wants to dictate you and couldn't care less about what you think, then vote for him. If not, go Santorum, who believe government should serve the people, not the other way around.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Can you give me a few concrete examples of how Obama wants to dictate you and couldn't care less about what you think?
screaminpman 1 week ago
@screaminpman obama care and other things the majority of americans voted against, like big bank bailouts
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments I seem to remember Americans voting for Obama because they wanted healthcare reform. That was one of his campaign promises. Also, the big bank bailouts happened in 2008. Obama didn't take office until January 2009.
screaminpman 1 week ago
Nice Try hater-post the rest of the video you ass clown. Ron Paul 2012
BabyLiloa 1 week ago
i like how whoever put this video up probably meant to put it up to discredit ron paul and make him look bad but the comments of the people who watched it already know the truth and it didnt discourage Ron paul supporters lol trolololing /\ im just lololing..stupid
PureAwesomeness209 1 week ago
all santorum does if defend fox talking points. he has no respect for himself or anyone else
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tylerdurrdenn 1 week ago
How could any fucking idiot call themselves American for voting for Prick Santorum?
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago 24
@VengenceOfHansenmol The sad part Is he will come too close to winning. There is stupid people. I think the reason he would get votes are stupid people just voting because they can. They'll say "uhh,well I know that guy's name and things usually turn out well for ME no matter who wins,so whatever I pick this guy"
nintendude24 1 week ago
@nintendude24 "There is stupid people" ? #ironic
elderaps 1 week ago
@nintendude24 Just because someone doesn't like Ron Paul doesn't mean their stupid. It means I'm a liberal who expects government to do certain things. Just because Ron Paul has the outward appearance of having integrity in the midst of a bunch of jackasses, doesn't mean he is the savior. This Paul fanaticism reminds me a lot of the Obama fever that swept the nation in 2008. Just saying..
screaminpman 1 week ago
@screaminpman If anything, I think Mitt Romney is very similar to Obama. Ron Paul is a libertarian, in other words, the exact opposite of Obama. I do agree too much liberty is a problem, but so is too much government.
JorgeL721 1 week ago
@screaminpman Sorry. I didn't mean to call you stupid,I meant large people who vote don't know anything about who they're voting for,I just pointed that out.
nintendude24 1 week ago
@nintendude24 Hmm.. agreed then.
screaminpman 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol How about because he wants America to be governed by the constitution the way it was intended to be from the start. Nothing more American than that. Was that a joke or are you serious?
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Are you kidding me?
He is the last thing that would abide by the constitution.
1. Congress declares war, NOT THE PRESIDENT.
2. Did you hear him say he thinks woman shouldn't be allowed in combat in the military?
3. He is for a U.S. Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage AND domestic partnerships.
The list continues... What happened to equal protection under the Constitution? Don't vote for Santorum seriously....He's a total clown he has you fooled.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol When the constitution was written, were women serving on the front lines in war? Were homosexuals getting married? Hell no. Santorem wants to bring back America and the values and morals and common sense it was founded on. He is not "MTV" like Obama, he is mature and actually cares about you, not just hollywood. Marriage has and always will have a natural definition and purpose, it is not something that the government decides, but a God given right.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Ok. So woman shouldn't have the right to vote, or be able to be elected officials. African Americans should be considered property. No interracial marriage. Theses are old traditional values that America was founded on. So your argument is invalid.
And morals have to be made by someone, you can't argue morals because everyone has a different idea of what is morally right or wrong. President can't impose his personal beliefs on the rest of the people.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol no, not founded on those things, those things were cultural side issues and based on very different circumstances than we now experience. Not right by any means, OR moral; Women and children were also considered "property" until fairly recently, if female, couldn't inherit or become owners of landed estates etc. there r universal morals; instinct informs us;no killing, theft, lying,stealing a spouse, etc.wrong.we call those w/out such observances or recognition "sociopaths".
preparadox 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol I wouldn't say America was "founded" on them just because they existed at the same time. The family (traditional marriage) and men fighting wars though, are foundational. Everyone can have different ideas about morals, but they are naturally defined by God. Life is conception, marriage is union between man and woman, morals are love one another. A truly Christian president will care for his people, whether you believe in his God or not, he will love you
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments And if you claim that god defines morals as one love another, why do people in the name of religion promote so much hate towards certain groups of people. Religion causes more wars than ANYTHING ELSE. The idea of religion is great, but people take it way too seriously & promote so much hate out of it and ruin the whole entire purpose of religion. And the president has no right to tell me what is right or wrong. I have the right to believe what i want.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol There's no such thing as taking your belief in God "too seriously," because it's not an 'idea,' it's your reality. When extremist use religion to justify acts of violence, it's not religion's fault. I could say you caused me to beat my wife tonight, but that's just casting the blame. You haven't done anything wrong. Religion based on love obviously doesn't cause violence, it's just an easy target for hypocrites.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol And you can believe what you want, but there's only one truth. Either it's right or it's wrong. I can believe murder is right all i want, but it doesn't make it so and it doesn't mean there shouldn't be any laws or government that challenges my belief. An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up. All are not equal, contrary to popular... opinion.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments; alleged witches were being hung/burned and crushed back then too...that's your man there. yes women were, but not usually as soldiers. Nurses however were right there, ammo packers, lots out there on front line encampments AND battlefields. Santorum cares about what you do, not you in general.He's warmonger w/totalitarian ideals he'd love to push on 2 u.He also has some very questionable moments in his past...some you should look in to if you are going to tout him as a saint
preparadox 1 week ago
@preparadox as far as i can see he doesn't have anything that is questionable about his personal life whatsoever, unlike every other candidate. he didn't say women can't be in war, just not on front lines. Santorum is no saint (he's a politician!), but he is devoutly Catholic, it's not an act. Therefore he actually does care about people, AND what they do. If you don't believe in God, fine, but realize that those who really do and aren't hypocrites do care about you.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments President shouldn't impose his standards and beliefs on Americans. This nation was formed for religious freedom. Now a guy wants to impose his beliefs on everyone else who may not agree? Just because marriage has 'traditionally' been between man & woman, doesn't mean anything.
It used to be tradition that blacks were slaves. Things change, the nation changes. Claiming tradition isn't an argument because most traditions back then are now seen as ridiculous.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol "In God We Trust" is still on our money. This nation was founded under Christianity. Christianity supports religious freedom, so America has always been about it, but it also has operated under Christian morals, like love your neighbor, don't kill, etc. Santorum is not imposing anything new. If you read what I said, 'tradition' was not part of my argument, it was used to define what I meant by family. Traditional marriage produces offspring and family
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Yes but "In god we trust" isn't connecting itself with one particular religion. America is diverse, that's why they don't recognize one religion over another. Saying god is very vague as it could relate to billions of what each individual defines god as.
But we don't need god to define morals for us. I don't believe in god, and know not to kill, lie, ect... I can think & reason for myself. I don't need god to do that for me.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments And in response to your other comment...
You say your opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up. Well where is your evidence of the existence of god? Why should we worship a man(or woman) that would sentence us to an eternity of hell if we do not obey him?
I can't expect a logical response from you other than "Faith" which by definition is belief without evidence, just wanted to point out a flaw in your previous argument.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol There is more evidence for the existence of God than the opposite. The fact that we are here, the intelligent design of the universe. These things are more likely to have been created than just randomly existing. Everything has a beginning in which it is produced from something else, nothing just comes into existence on it's own. So logically there must have been something already existing, always existing, for the first created thing to exist..continued
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments And now to your comment that, "Everything has a beginning in which it is produced from something else, nothing just comes into existence on it's own. So logically there must have been something already existing, always existing, for the first created thing to exist"
Then who created god? I'm going to assume you won't be able to answer that... so with that said, you can't use everything has a starting point as an argument. Again, flaw.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol you do not read closely enough. Every CREATED thing has a starting point, does it not? So the first created thing must have come from something uncreated, thus "always existing" (no starting point). God could not have failed to exist, he is creator, not created. by the way, Dec of Independence states we are endowed with rights by our CREATOR. look it up if you think God isn't foundational to Amercia
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Yes, we are given rights by our creator, but what you fail to understand the purpose of what that means. It means that the government does not give you those rights. Because if it were government given rights, then they would have the ability to take them away from you. Therefore they state it in a way to make it so the government is not allowed to take these rights.
And again like I said before, it is vague, it is not picking one religion over the other.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Yes, we are given rights by our creator, but what you fail to understand the purpose of what that means. It means that the government does not give you those rights. Because if it were government given rights, then they would have the ability to take them away from you. Therefore they state it in a way to make it so the government is not allowed to take these rights.
And again like I said before, it is vague, it is not picking one religion over the other.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
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@OccasionalComments Yes, we are given rights by our creator, but what you fail to understand the purpose of what that means. It means that the government does not give you those rights. Because if it were government given rights, then they would have the ability to take them away from you. Therefore they state it in a way to make it so the government is not allowed to take these rights.
And again like I said before, it is vague, it is not picking one religion over the other
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol Yeah I agree with that, but they are stating that because they believe it is true, not just so the government can't take away rights. That fact is just a reality of the belief. And I didn't say it was picking one religion over the other, but they were Christian, and ultimately believed in God. You still didn't say anything about my main point of evidence, the fact the Jews believed Jesus to be God. Something extraordinary happened to bring that about
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol I think the best evidence though is that Christianity exists. It is completely irrational that a Jew in Jesus' time, who wouldn't even speak the name of their God (Yahweh) out of respect and unworthiness, would suddenly proclaim another Jewish man (Jesus) to be God himself! The fact that this belief spread to the extent that it did, and has, is all the proof I need to believe that Christ is who he said he is, and who his disciples proclaimed him to be.
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@VengenceOfHansenmol And one more thing, you've tried to point out 3 "flaws" in my arguments, yet after I respond it is clear that I haven't erred in the ways you claim, so you should wait for a response before assuming a flaw. And by the way, if God is going to send you to hell for not obeying him, I'd say that's a pretty good reason to obey! you'd be missing the point of course, but still better than eternal suffering, no? Check out "Paschal's Wager"
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments There is actually evidence that suggests that we as humans exist as we do today based on scientific theories that have ACTUAL evidence which supports it while making it physically possible. Things such as the big bang theory, evolution, ect... all answer the things you claimed to be the work of god, with actual REAL evidence that suggests otherwise rather than work of god. The only thing that backs up your statement seems to be your word. So,... try again.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol science supporting how things work does not discredit the belief in God whatsoever. Who's to say God did not design evolution. Big Bang? Where did the bang come from? What created the rocks that "banged" and somehow produced the human race? If anything is flawed, it's that you use scientific understanding to somehow contrast God, as if the reason instilled in human beings that is used in empirical study would not have come from a Creator. ???
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments There is a scientific explanation of how the big bang happened. Look it up yourself. It makes more since rather than something waving a magic wand and making it all appear because he was bored one day and thought it would be fun.
God simply making matter appear out of nowhere defies the laws of physics, it can't happen. THAT IS A FACT.
There is actual evidence that supports all of these without the work of god. there is NO REAL evidence of god.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol There is no scientific proof as to where the first created thing came from. If you can explain where the bang came from, you can just keep going back until you come to the same question, what created the first thing? So if God is all powerful, he couldn't defy the laws of physics? It's not appearing from nowhere, it's coming from the Life Source that is God. He created things for us, and us for himself, because he is Love and love is union with others.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Look it works both ways. you can't prove 100% that god does exist, just like i can't prove 100% that god doesn't exist.
Because we can't exactly test these accurately with 100% conclusiveness. This is an argument that will go on forever because there are 2 never ending sides to each argument. I don't have a problem with people believing in god, its your right. But I do have a problem with people imposing their beliefs on me and attempting to force me.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol Correct. What is Santorum trying to force you to do though? Any president is going to have their own beliefs they govern by, but he isn't taking away rights. Santorum is for freedom of religion, unlike Obama, who tries to force the Catholic Church to accept contraception and abortion in their health care.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Well, he wants to make certain laws that are in accordance to the bible (One obvious example Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage or even legal rights of same sex couples).
Imagine if the president imposed Aharia law on the American people, that would be outrageous! right? But if a President can sign/veto bills based off of his catholic beliefs that would directly affect some people then it's okay? It's the same concept.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol Sharia* not Aharia.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol To paraphrase his words, marriage is a privilege, not an unalienable right. Privileges are given for the betterment of society. Marriage produces children and family, same-sex "marriage" does nothing, so therefore the privilege should not be granted. This is the way it has always been until recently under this crazy administration, so I don't think the fact he wants to ban it is too surprising, nor is it based on his religion, it just happens to coincide
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments The government can't and shouldn't tell someone how to live their life, tell them who they can and cannot marry.
What about Elderly woman who cannot produce children anymore but can still get married? That defies his argument.
Marriage never used to be a 'privilege' until recently.
Marriage is a religious ceremony, government only got involved for health reasons.
All voluntary social actions should be protected by the law.
And even if
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Even if it does nothing, who cares? But to amend the constitution is totally unnecessary to define something that is already in the dictionary. We already know what marriage is all about. We don't need a new definition or argue over a definition as to what marriage is or isn't. The states should be able to handle it themselves. Adding a constitutional amendment just makes more government, its unnecessary.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments ...Just like you have the right to beleive in religion and god, I have the right not to believe in god.
VengenceOfHansenmol 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol I agree. Rick Santorum is a fascist asshole who wants to dictate how other people should live their lifes.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
@Bobloblawman actually he wants you to live your life how you want, not force anything on you except the constitution and dec of independ., unlike obama who doesn't allow people to follow their Church teachings that go back 2000 years.
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@OccasionalComments Lul, how specifically has Obama stopped people from following "their Church teachings that go back 2000 years." ?
ThePaulCynic 1 week ago
@ThePaulCynic guess you have been sleeping through the recent contraception controversy that Obama is trying to make part of healthcare
OccasionalComments 1 week ago
@Bobloblawman I've heard that gay sex is really stinky and foul?
johnyhefner 1 week ago
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in anal sex because they find it disguisting. They just give eachother blowjobs instead.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
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@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in anal sex because they find it disguisting. They just do oral.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
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@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in anal sex because they find it disguisting. They just do oral.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
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@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't like doing it back there. They just do it orally on eachothers wangs.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
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@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
I have read though that most gay couples don't engage in a_n_a_l s_e_x because they find it disguisting. They just engage in o_r_a_l s_e_x instead.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
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@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist asshole shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
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@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
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@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should live their lifes exactly the way they see fit. Some fascist shouldn't walk around telling people what they can or can't do.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
@johnyhefner I wouldn't know. I'm straight, I'm just not a homophobe. I believe that everyone should have the same rights and be treated equally regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, nationality or social class.
Bobloblawman 1 week ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol Here we have a wild idiot that listens to absolutely nothing Rick Santorum says.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
@mechaspark1 Here we have an idiot who lets the media tell him/her who to vote for. Do your own research.
Santorum is a clown he would serve more use in a circus then any political office.
VengenceOfHansenmol 5 days ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol And he's a clown... Why? Sure, you caught me.. I DEFINITELY let the media make up my own opinion. Even though, COINCIDENTALLY, below your comment are 2 people saying he's a clown. Could it be any more obvious that you're listening to the crowd, and following them? Completely ignoring Ron Paul's half-witted statements? This point in time is the time when EVERYONE follows the crowd to judge their opinions. God, please don't let this psycho run America.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
@mechaspark1 Go to see all comments. Press "CRTL F" and search clown, I called him a clown in my comment 4 days ago. Try again buddy.
This guy is a complete child, I mean listen to what he said, and you want that trash being president?He's a bigot, promotes hate, wants to start preemptive attacks, wants to spend your money unwisely, he is going to further bankrupt this country by spending money that it DOESNT HAVE, the dollar will crash. Our security will be threatened with no money
VengenceOfHansenmol 5 days ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol Even then, you still proved my point. People are following what YOU say, and you're most likely following them as well. Try again, "buddy". Just because of one thing Rick said, you suddenly think he's a bad person? Listen to what Ron Paul said about 9/11. He was booed by 70% of the audience for it. Though I've honestly never heard Rick promoting hatred or trying to attack. And spending? I'm pretty positive he's trying to cut the spending, not enhance it.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
@mechaspark1 So because he was booed by a portion of the audience that must mean he's wrong? what you can't think and reason for yourself?
Here, i really encourage you to watch this video, it provides a really good history lesson on a more probable reason as to why they attacked us, and why the government is so involved in the middle east, I think you'll find it interesting too.
/watch?v=AwbBWEljyYE
VengenceOfHansenmol 5 days ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol Trust me, I'm making up my own decisions. See everyone that would disagrees with me? They don't phase me or change my opinion.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol We can't stop war. Ever. Ron Paul is foolish to think that you can stop war. War is what protects our freedom. If we didn't have it, America would be doomed.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
@mechaspark1 Wow you are brainwashed.... Please just watch the video that I linked you'll have a better understanding.
But how do you expect to pay for this war, $15 Trillion in debt, dollar is crashing, where is the money going to come from to pay for this "war"? The military doesn't even know what they are supposed to be doing. Just because you spend a billion $ on an embassy in Iraq you think that makes us safer? I think that's a waste.
VengenceOfHansenmol 5 days ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol How many times have I explained I'm not brainwashed? The only brainwashed individual here is you. 90% of Ron Paul videos have mindless zombies in the comments saying "Ron Paul 2012", and you support them? How am I brainwashed? I'm turned away from the crowd and heading my own direction. And if we didn't have the brave soldiers fighting for us, we wouldn't be here arguing, thinking this would help matters. I already sense it's too late for America though.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
@mechaspark1 If you support these wars so much, do you support them enough to actually go out there and join the military, as well as your kids, your grand kids whatever?
If so do it, gl
VengenceOfHansenmol 5 days ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol There are thousands of people out there who are willing to aid the war. I'm not one of them. You support stopping the war so much, go do it. See where it goes
mechaspark1 5 days ago
@mechaspark1 Already am, along with 85% of active military and veterans who also support Ron Paul. Thanks for the debate good luck on your state's primary or caucus.
VengenceOfHansenmol 5 days ago
@VengenceOfHansenmol So you're saying, the people join to fight wars, but are against them? I've come to the conclusion that I'm wasting my time, walking around in circles.
mechaspark1 5 days ago
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@mechaspark1 There will not "always" be a war. There hasn't "always" been a war. There have been times of peace, and we can still have times of peace. Just because the MSM is always talking about war doesn't mean there will always be a war. And war does not make people safe. Peace is what is safe. This is intuitive. And RP's predictions have proven to be true (housing crisis, 9/11, economy, civil liberties lost, etc).
tjsaxman9 5 days ago
@mechaspark1 Don't confuse enthusiasm with brainwashing. Brainwashing is what media and public schools do to people daily. Until you've read at least a few books or many articles by the likes of Tom Woods, Robert Murphy, Peter Schiff, Andrew Napolitano, Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Ludwig von Mises, FA Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Murray Rothbard, Tom Dilorenzo, or Doug French, you will likely remain one of the brainwashed masses because you haven't armed yourself with the required background information.
garoad2 5 days ago