Frost Over The World - Israel/Palestine - 08 Jun 07

[vistavision2]

07:17 IS DDFM to UK " 'Land for Peace" as with Egypt "[ would be the context of "blackline" Borders, e.g, Defined Borders vis-a-vis LON Trusteeship State of Palestine of which was partiioned with UNGA 181:

UNGA 181 Part II Boundaries: Israel acceeded to, with UNGA 273 Accession to UN Charter & of which UNGA 273 specifically refers UNGA 181as Israel's foundation for its sovereignty & UNGA 194; Mutual "Land for Peace" agreed context = UNGA 181 Part II Boundaries

[vistavision2]

In other words: Palestinians will quitlclaim on UNGA 181 State of Israel territory as demaracted in UNGA 181 Part II State of Israel for Israel-Palestin Peace Agreement.

Notion that Palestinians must cede parts of their territory demarcated in UNGA 181 Part II Boundaries State of Palestine occupied in 1949 aka "Whiteline Palestine" AND additional 1967 areas aka "Greenline Palestine" for Israeli peace is 100% NON-NEGOTIABLE: Contravenes UN Chartered course.

[vistavision2]

UNSC 242 Chartered Course is NON-NEGOTIABLE: UNGA 181 is a UN Charter Chapter XII, Article 80 Terms Resolution of which the terms are NON-MODIFIABLE with UNSC 1397.

Article 39:

UNSC 72 - "Threat to the peace", Armistice Agreement

UNSC 242- "Breach of the [Armistice] Peace

UNSC 1397: Israeli UNSC 242 non-complaince is "Act of Agression"

If UNSC 1397 is not an Art 39, then it cannot be anything other than an Article 82 "Strategic Territory" Resolution.

[vistavision2]

UNSC 242 Modalities:

PREREQUISITE (i) israelis vacate their presence in "Greenline Palestine"

FOLLOWED BY (ii) Termination of all claims states of belligerency, and respect for and acknowldgement of the sovereignty , ...every state in the area ..."

UNSC 242 Israeli non-complaince qualifies as PON VI (a) Crime Against Peace & Israeli settlements as (b) War Crimes for (c) Crimes Against Humanity- POLITICAL PERSECUTION to dispossess Palestinians from their UNGA 181 National Rights

[vistavision2]

Reiterate, I knew Assad the Father; both Assad Fateher & son- same position:

1 Simple: Israel compliance with UNSC 242 vacate Syrian Golan Heights & a Peace Agreement is a done deal

2 It does NOT have any bearing to abrogate UN Chartered UNGA 181 State of Palestine Part II Boundaries

3 UN Charter Article 103: obligations to UN Charter supercede bi-lateral agreements

3.1 Continued Crimes Against Humanit y in Palestine may result in Jordan & Egypt UNC Art 103/ 51 defense of PLO

[vistavision2]

The agreement is: UNGA 273 acccession to UN Charter which includes UNGA 181 vis-a-vis State of Palestine Part II Boundaries.

1 The other Arabs states leadership do NOT speak for Palesitine

2 Hamas as part of the Unity Government Israel refused to negotiate with;

2.1 And thereafter you propogate that Hamas does not negoitated with Israel unilaterally:

2.2 Lunacy on Israel part? NO, its premediated to continue the farce of negotiations under a new USA Admn while plunder continues

[vistavision2]

3 Israels choices are clear:

3.1 Voluntarily conplaince with UNSC 242 vis-a-vis UNGA 181 State of Palestine

3.2 Or Community of Nations Armed Force Compliance to secure UNSC 242 vis-a-vis UNGA 181 State of Palestine

4 The only "land for peace" on the table is Palestinian offers UNGA 181 State of Palestine North Gaza Province as a goodwill measure:

4.1 Conditional upon War Crimes Tribunals for Peres, Netanyahu, Gillerman, Gisson, Daniel Levi, Mofazz, Ehud Barack & IDF Major 'vitch.

[Cricketmite]

Talya Lador-Fresher, Deputy Israeli ambassador to the UK. Deputy Ambassador, that doesn't sound like an impressive title. I think the wants to achieve peace. Just as a fanciful notion, if she were elected Prime Minister of Israel, I think there would be peace. To explain in detail why I believe this would take too long. I just do. She has a balanced character, and she is informed. Could such a thing be possible? Could such a person be elected to high office. Discuss.

[vistavision2]

Tell to go see Foreign Policy on UNGA 181 on this playlist or my vid "Cry of Humanity"

Then we can this further on this vid comment section.

In good faith, I'll will add her name of one person in Israel that purposes reaffirmation of International Law: UNSC 242/UNGA 181 UN Chatered course.

I'm am not an Isreali nor are is the rest of the planet: Election of persons who purpose peace is the responsivility of Israelis.

[vistavision2]

Lady this is 2009 & not 1967:

Context is simple: UNSC 242

1 State of Israel is recognized by every UN member state individually & collectively with UNGA 273

2 Israel borders are demaracted in UNGA 181 Part II Boundaries

3 UNGA 194; vis-a-vis refugees, exceeds the parameters of UNSC 242

4 UNGA 181 Part III Jerusalem exceeds UNSC 242 parameters

5 ALL negotiations positions of ALL parties that predate 1/29/09 BCE are 100% non-apllicable:

5.1 Parameters: UNSC 242 (i)

[vistavision2]

Quadafii, check with Hanan Ashwari for Palestine Defense Policy [ UNCS 242 parameters ] so that your message will in sync.

Priority : Modalities for transfer of the two billion USD into Palestine Trust Fund- accountability & responsibile administration.

1 Advise: Contract with NGO' s [Humanitarian agencies, .ie. Red Cross, Red Crescent others who have the track record- they have the expierence , mission, vision & values Value-set.

[vistavision2]

What does Assad thinks; or what his father thought.

I knew his father, and he was always willing to step forward and make the Peace within the context of International Law;

Yet, Israel leadership have always purposed to circumvent and contravene International Law to plunder Land;

Israel leadership have not pursued Peace as its War Crimes settlements are self-evident.

[rapartist43]

As is posted before, those areas were FREED by israel in the 6-day-war. Those areas (JUDEA !!!, Samaria and Gaza) are part of Israel - according to international law. Why shouldn't they be allowed to settle on THEIR OWN land? You speak of international law as if you knew, but the only thing self-evident here is your bullshit-comments!^^

[vistavision2]

raparttist343, State your sources: specificity of international law and not just a zionist parroting.

State in Torah where source your premise.

GEN 15:17 "thy seed [DNA] " Shem/ Abram/ Ishmael/Arabs : Semites

1.1 "Areas" - PRESENTLY inhabited by Semite/Arabs

GEN 17:21 "They seed [DNA]" Shem/Abraham/ Issac/ Israel & Judah [sole possessor/inheritor of sceptre (GEN49:7-12)] : Semites

GEN 10:3 Japheth/Ashkenazim are NOT Semites.

So explain how Japethites bith Semites?

[vistavision2]

Zionist premise:

1 DNA - Children of Abraham

2 Maternal lineage- Torah specifically states it is Paternal

3 Lands "given to Jews": GEN 15:17 is exact opposite.

State of Israel is prophecy of Noah and confirmed by Deuteronomy: If your Tribe of Judah, you would know this:

DEUT 19:14 "You shall not move your neighbors boundary mark [UNGA 181 PTII borders], which the ancestors have set Internationa law [LOAC & UNGA 273's- UNGA 181, UN Charter- UNSC 242]..."

Honor your word

[rapartist43]

1: already debunked. You did that yourself.

2 Deuteronomy 7: 4, "Because he will lead astray your son from before Me" To understand this verse, look at the preceding verse, which states: "And you shall not intermarry with them, your daughter you shall not give to his son and his daughter you shall not take for your son".

[vistavision2]

rapartist43

CONTEXT: DEUT 7:4 "...clear away Hittites,," is specificity of reiterating GEN 15:17.

1 Palestinians are Semites; the Ashekenazm are NOT children of Abrahambut of Japhet

2 Absurdity: Shem mandate a foreign nation- genocide of his own descendents

3 Hittities are Ham/ "Heth" [Hebrew "terror" from whence our words Cheat, Hate, Chat, originate from]

3 Yes 7:4 goto 7:3 goto 7:2 goto 7:1 goto GEN 15:17

4 LikewiseTEXT above DEUT19:14

5 YOUR the terrorists/HETH

[rapartist43]

Genesis Chapter 15:17 reads: "And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and there was thick darkness, behold a smoking furnace, and a flaming torch that passed between these pieces."

Very interesting indeed, Genesis 17:21: 21 "But My covenant will I establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year."

ISAAC, not Ishmael. Now that is what I call an own goal. Apart from quoting false, you fail to prove your point.

[rapartist43]

Context: Jordan illegally OCCUPIED eastern Jerusalem in 1948 (just like Egypt occupied Gaza). According to international law, Israel FREED those territories from OCCUPYING FORCES in 1967.^^

[vistavision2]

UNSC 1401: UN Charter, Article 39, " existance of threat to the peace";

1 Regardless of origin; in this case refers to UNSC 242- *UNSC 73 [ 2ph] "2. finds that the Armistice Agreement constitute and important step toward the establishement of permanent peace in Palestine.

2 UNSC 338: Non-applicable in this context of UNGA 273 Israel vis-a-vis UNGA 181 Palestine.

3 Israel Egypt Peace Agreements supercedes UNSC 338 specificity to the the Israel-Egypt aspect of the conlfict.

[rapartist43]

Why doi you keep on citing UN-Articles when the Arabs refused to observe them right from the beginning? You already disqualified from being credible!

[vistavision2]

Does evereone have the right to pick and choose what laws they will obey? NO, Neither states

Other Arab states leadership do NOT represent the people of the UNGA 181 State of Palesttine.

Israels own Proclamation of Independence source UNGA 181 the foundation of its soveriegnty & sovereign powers.

Israel & UN Community agreed to the border of UNGA 181 Part II boundaries wiht UNGA 273 do not adhere to it.

Palestinians by the very Nature of UNGA 181 are bound by it.

[rapartist43]

There IS NO STATE called Palestine. Stop posting nonsense. There is no state, because there is no palestinian people, regardless of the fact that there own brothers put them into so-called "refugee-camps". tell me, why didn't those "palestinians" work at their own state rather than terrorizing Jews, huh? Is this REALLY about land anyway? I seriously doubt it. Whenever they got land, they used it for terrorist attacks.

[vistavision2]

Hanan, Pursue with His Majesty, King Abdullah of Jordan the modalities for Jordan to re-assume UN International Law obligations for East Jerusalem in accordance with UNSC 242 so that Israel may comply with UNSC 242(i).

Context: Jordan's assumption of International Law obligations for East Jersulam is with UNSC 242 (i); and NOT UNGA 181 which exceeds the UNSC 242 and UNGA 194 context.

UNSC 242 parameters are UNGA 181 State of Palestine Provinces of Gaza & West Bank; again NOT Jerusalem.

[vistavision2]

Hanan, His Majesty, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia requires assistance to finalize modalites to transfer to PLO under your administration his ONE Billion USD, most compaasionate and benevolent act worthy of his Kingdom, and a leader of the

Arab greater nation.

[vistavision2]

Abbas, Thank you for your service.

Note: You will recieve a full pension for life: Thank you again, for your service to the People of the State of Palestine.

[vistavision2]

Hamas is a poltical party: Therefore, does not have any National soveriegn poewers.

Its a UNGA 2625 [Ph 9] violation of UNGA 181 State of Palestine for Israel or any other party to be meddling in internal Palestinian's polity.

The UN Chartered PLO with UNGA 3236 with provisional sovereign powers as a UN Administering Authory [Article 81] to secure UN's International Law [UNC Art 80 TERMS]obligations: Israel should address it's bi-lateral diplomatic initiatives to PLO.

[vistavision2]

Let it be Known that PLO has Charted Hamas with with administarion of UNGA 181 State of Palestine Gaza Province: Hamas obligations mandate national defense from aggression, specially Israel; including protecting the National Right; defending its people; and liberating UNA 181 Palestine West Bank Province in the absence of Israel adhering to UNSC 242:

(1) Withdrawal from UNGA 181 State of Palestine Province West Bank;

(2) any further aggression on UNGA 181 Palestine Gaza Province.

[rapartist43]

There is no state called Palestine - there is no palestinian people. No state - no right! Israel has ALWAYS been eager to grant them with land, but we see the results of that foolishness come crashing down as rockets.^^

[vistavision2]

The Concept that The People of Israel contracted with th UN Community of Nations is UNGA 181.

Israel own Proclamation's of Independence sources UNGA 181 as it foundation for soveriegnty of Territorial Integrity and Soveriegn Powers: Commonly called Right-to-exist.

UNGA 181 is a Chapter XII Article 77.a., "Territories under mandate"; Article 80 TERMS; and Article 81, UN "Itself".

[vistavision2]

The Reflective Concept to Laws of Nations and Humanity is Laws of Conflict and Humanity of Laws of War.

I-973 Geneva, also called 1949 IV Geneva (III), Article 49, importation of citizenry is unlawful: War Crime.

"Two state solution" has been agreed upo with: UNGA 181 and UNSC 1397; respective borders are UNGA 181 Part II Boundareies.

The subtantive issue is UNSC 242, an UNC Art 39, "breach of peace"; charted course is UNC Articles 41 Sanctins; & Article 42 Armed Force Compliance

[rapartist43]

Why did the Arabs refuse to have their own state in 1948 AND 2000? Any logical answer to this? Well, I do...

[Dandibay]

stop this bull shit you idiots. dysfunctional or not its none of your business. Just free Palestine from Israeli yoke and fascism and they can handle their lives.

[Maxwedge12000]

The palestinians are totally incapable of handling anything. Look how they live. They produce nothing. THey are a lost cause.

[vistavision2]

I say unto you: Examine the Texts of the Prophets of Torah, Holy Bible, & Holy Qur'on; before you presume to Claim that you are God Almighty as zionists claim they are gods and have a right to committ genocide.

[rapartist43]

so how can there be 5 million "refugees"? are you trying to tell me they multiplied times ten in 60 years?

[vistavision2]

rapartist43,

as did the Israelis. 600K refugees were displaced and the very same number 600K zionist, Askenenazim, Tribe of Israel, Tribe of Judah.

WHY? Infrasturce then could not asorb more:

Every time Israel purposed to bring in another 5,000 Askenazim, it launches a "war on terror" to either kill or displace same number Palestinians

[rapartist43]

They wewre not displaced, they fucking RAN AWAY because of Deir Yassin. Don't even ATTEMPT to give me historey lessons, bitch! A student can't fuck with the teacher!

[ziggy2ras]

Just like Africa there is no stable infrastructure and enough education to fight dictatorships. There are disconnected ethnicities (like African tribes) which continue in primitive infighting and terrain struggles. Many drawbacks to overcome.

[phreakoutaston]

It is a shame there was no "interaction" between Hana Ashrawi and the Israeli ambassador to UK. Wasted opportunity.

[nawaar48]

Frost has got to be the worst journalist on tv. What kind of interview was the one conducted with the Israeli rep?! It looked like a chat over tea more like a hard-hitting interview. Is he on sleeping pills, he looks like he's falling over. What pathetic nonesense. Al Jazeera English is really testing its reputation having this idiot on air.

[Maxwedge12000]

Now it is a palestinian versus palestinian war. The arabs have to kill even it means each other. The world can sit back and watch them destroy themselves.

[ubernathan]

totally unnecesary and unhelpfull comment.

it is the outside world messing with the middle east that has caused these problems

[Maxwedge12000]

Do not try to deflect blame where it acutally lies. The arabs have created their own world yet they blame everything and everyone around them for their plight. Violence is just part of their culture. As the followers of mohammed chanted, "Kill, kill kill".

[ubernathan]

what? u mean the same as christians who had crusades(note i am a non-arab christian) u cant blame an entire culture/race for a war. this conflict dates bach to both western imperialism and the unilateral creation of isreal. the plaestinians predate this and feel abandoned by the international community and therefore respond with violence

[Maxwedge12000]

The fact remains that the arabs have control over their own destiny and look what they do. The arabs never miss an opportunity to do the wrong thing. I think the arab culture worked several centuries ago but in present times it is rendered dysfuntional.

[ubernathan]

the arabs never miss the oppertunity to do the wrong thing? wat thats surely silly. arabs have and do do great good as well as great evil

[Maxwedge12000]

The arab world, in spite of massive oil revenues, is a basket case of poverty, unemployment, oppression, ignorance, violence, radicallism and illiteracy but I hear they make great tea.

[ubernathan]

oh come on one can say the same about africa. it is simply the case that a great many middle eastern states are ruled by dictators, it is not the fault of the populace. and when i last looked prety much every single continent had terrorists etc.

[Maxwedge12000]

I do not understand why you are attempting to defend the indifensible. The arab culture is dysfunctional. Look to the arab world for proof. I do agree with you though that africa is equally dysfuntional.

[ubernathan]

hmm one can not argue the entire arab world and all arabs are dysfunctional. the UAE is doing amasingly

[Maxwedge12000]

You are grabbing at straws now. The UAE has a total population of 4.1 million people of which 85% are not citizens nor arabs. While UAE has done great financially, they are still an oppresive government with no elections, no right to assembly and virtually no workers rights. UAE is 4 feet tall in a land of midgets. Yahooo

[Dandibay]

what do you mean by dysfunctional? Few HIV cases, some of the lowest rape cases? 95% whole families? Don't see anything dysfunctional about it.

[Capuchin]

If you completley ignore that Britain and France carved up the middle east according to their own designs and ruthlesly surpressed pan-Arab nationalism. Not that the middle east would be perfect but a fair number of it's problems and conflicts are exacerbated and created by western intervention. Palestine is the perfect example.

[Maxwedge12000]

Sorry but that dog don't hunt. The arab culture is dysfunctional. Now you can unite all the arabs and have one big dysfunctional nation or leave it chopped up and have many smaller, dysfunctional nations. You need to stop making excuses for a dysfunctional culture.

[Capuchin]

I don't recall ever hearing about an arab boy walking into a school and gunning down his class mates in cold blood. I'd be carefull who you declare dysfunctional. Nor have arabs ever dropped a nuclear weapon on anyone and killed 70,000 people instantaneously, nor has any arab country rounded up 6 million innocent people and gassed them to death. I think you need to get off your high horse and take a long look in the mirror.

[Maxwedge12000]

First off, occasional school shootings are the result of dysfuntional individuals, not a dysfunction culture. All the ills that plague the arab nations are signs of a dysfuctional culture. Look to the arab world for proof. More people died in WWII from conventional bombs then nuclear bombs.  Why does the nuclear bombs disturb you so and not the convetional ones. As far as 6 million being gassed talk to the germans about that.

[hokitube123]

well americans killed all native americans and took slaves..

[Dandibay]

6 millions being gassed. One, if not the single, "hystorical fact" that is forbidden to research and investigate, hmmmm, weird, not? we're still looking into the whereabouts of Gengiskhan's burial place but we CANNOT be curious about "6 million gassed"? VERY SUSPICIOUS.

[vistavision2]

Maxwedge, school shootings like wars are the results of the culture. [e.g., local, regional, global] and NOT the cuase.

[egon55]

@Capuchin you didn't prove anything with your argument. If you wanted to prove that they are not dysfunctional you should have given reasons why they are not, not a list of things that are not related to the original claim. That's like answering a question with another question...logical fallacy.

[vistavision2]

Maxwedge, The only dysfuntional cultre is the neo-conservative who either are ignorant of Christianity or cloak their malevolence purposed as Christianity: Regardless, lack the intellect of reasoning power to set them free from both.

The zionists are spiritually diseased: 100% evil; Yet, they can set themselves free by circumsizing their hearts; and recognizing that they are NOT gods but people just like everybody else- imperfect, including myself.

Difference?: we know we are not perfect

[Maxwedge12000]

Nope, the arab culture is dysfuntional for modern times. One need only look at the arab world for proof of my statement.

[vistavision2]

I'll let you tell it: Get a life, as opposed to being hater player.

Look in the mirror; the wheels fell of the "burning Bush43 abmination car".

It is what it is:

This is the "O"Bama Nation- Leadership of the United States of America.

[Maxwedge12000]

What the hell does that have to do with the dysfuntionality of the arab culture?

[vistavision2]

Max, What it means that responsibility begins with self-accountability.

I do NOT concern myself with what this person of that person is not doing;

I concern myself with what is right or wrong through examination the context which includes me being resident of eart:

1 I do what should be done: not because of any pecuniary reward, nor a promise of heaven, less the threat of hell

2 It is to be done on its own merit: right & good to do it.

[vistavision2]

3 Money does not interest me; the promise of heaven and its gates are not my domain- Only God Almighty decides that; The threat of hell doesn't frighten me.

4 I concern myself of educationg myself on the context; Why the blame this or that?

4.1 Self-responsibility begins with self. I don't even blame the zionists: They should understand that if that is what it is: it is what it is- good or evil- rewarded accordingly.

4.2 I'm bringing justice to them; no need to look for me.