brilliant playing, some people seem to think that if you dont play every single note identical to how other people play it your doing something wrong.If every drummer followed this way of thinking, the drumming world would be a very dull place
Hey man, I gotta ask, what is the sticking for this pattern as you start using the ride bell? Are you playing triplets with the bell accent on ever other note or what ? Cheers man, great vid and playing.
@Jackondrums18 The ride pattern as played by Dennis requires the left hand to lead the triplets through the bar. The clearest way to get into the ride pattern is to play a "R L L R" at the beginning of the bar and then continue alternating hands after that. Example (ride is the capital R): "r l l R l r l R l r l R l r l R l r l R l r l R"
@residentdrummerpete Good ear. Yes, I left out some of the ghost notes. I don't play all the possible ghost notes because the groove starts to sound too busy and a little bit mechanical to me. It's a personal choice.
What is the John Mclaughlin (possibly The Free Spirits) song that Dennis Chambers plays this beat on? Please someone help me out! I used to have the recording, now it's gone. Argh!
How long did it take for you to get this groove down? Without the ride addition. I'm pretty good but I can't do the shuffle on the high-hats with the ghost notes on the snare....I'm so used to quarters and 8th notes on the high-hat I can't master this beat....it's frustrating.
hey I don't know where my comment went but! Thank you for this vid! I always wanted to figure out this groove. I came up with my own by accident, kinda reversed, and somehow sounds similar to dennis's without the "ride thing". This is inspiring!
If you mean that you can't play grace/ghost notes lightly enough (volume-wise), then that's one thing (I need more practice in this, too)...but if you mean that you cannot understand where the grace/ghost notes come in, then here is the notation:
@iamthewalruskookoo ...thanks for writing/responding...the (RL) represents the right (R) hand and left (L) hand together - with the L as the snare downbeat (accent)...the g is the (left hand) grace note...
Haha...the same thing has happened to me...I've played off-and-on since 1973, and it was not until during the past year that I tried to tackle the general (Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle) groove...well, I finally got it, and I keep playing it over and over...I just enjoy that rolling/fluid aspect of the groove...I remember when I first started out and thought it to be awkward to include the grace note following the downbeat...now it feels so comfortable to play this groove!
@EkayDrums The same thing has happened to me...I like straight (non-ghosted) grooves - but I also like the "rolling, fluid" grooves like the BP Half-Time Shuffle...also, Phil Collins - who used a fair amount of ghost-noting and fluid grooves (before he simplified his drumming in the 80s) - had some influence on me...he did a full-time ghost-noted shuffle on "Get 'Em Out By Friday", and he often used ghost-noted 7/8 grooves (e.g., 2nd half of "The Cinema Show")...
Practicing double-strokes (RRLLRRLL) can potentially increase your speed...
The (Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle) groove involves repetitive triplets that involve doing a double-stroke on the right hand (if you're playing right-handed):
like what danieljanka was saying, this is different to the chambers groove, if it is off the song i am thinking of. i like your version alot better. i think the difference is that chambers high-hats are played with unswung quarter strokes and the left hand is filling each beat of the bar with a triplet, giving it the swung feel. your version is far more technical. this is only talking about the first section on the hats, not between the ride.
call it what you want, but this beat was invented by Bernard Purdie as a young man in the 1940's. Chambers, Porcaro, Bohnam all put a slight change of feel on it, but it's still Purdie's original " Locomotion " as he called it.
@mlcoo17 The shuffle feel with the ghost notes was used way before Purdie in military drops years before. Bernard is a wonderful drummer, but tells very tall tales IE that he played on the alot of the Beatles Albums .. Just wrong !
@Wilsonbangy With respect, I've never heard any military drumming than comes anywhere near Purdie's funky shuffle, past or present. Even if it exists ( funky military half time shuffle ), which I seriously doubt, Purdie is the one who invented the Purdie shuffle or as he called it then, his " locomotion". I don't care what Purdie says about the Beatles. What I'm saying is that you cannot find a recording of the Purdie Shuffle prior to Bernard Purdie, it's his, he invented it as we know it.
@mlcoo17 He didn't invent the shuffle. He popularised it certainly, but the feel and shuffle groove and half time playing had been around for a long time. His particular time, and the way he played it made it a drummers favourite, but in no way did he INVENT the half time shuffle. It's kind of like saying Charlie Parker invented bop.
@bteniswood Of course he didn't invent the shuffle. The are LOTS of shuffles, but THS shuffle in THIS style, was invented by Purdie, that's why it's known as the Purdie shuffle. I challenge anyone to show a recording before Purdie's time of the same shuffle.
Damn dude! You have some incredible feel. So many Youtube drummer vids have badly recorded drums being played badly, and this one is the complete opposite. It sounds nice, looks good, and of course you can play. Thumbs up bro!
This is nicely played but you missed the ghost notes Dennis Chambers does on the snare drum. It's a lot denser and that makes it much harder partly. This is a decent video anyways.
Im not deaf I know he plays ghost notes. The thing is that he plays single ghost notes while Chambers does doubles which actually results in 3 consecutive hits on the snare when played after the 2nd and 4th quarter.
when you played it slow it sounded like you were gonna do the Babylon Sisters groove from Alive in America...Chambers rips that song up...best version i say...Ricky Lawson lays it down too but love Chambers shuffles...
It's just straight alternating eighth-note triplets with your left hand starting on 1 and going to the snare on 3 and your right hand going back and forth between ride and hi-hat.
You proved to be a serious drummer who cares about sound and groove!! Very accurate too. What mics do you normally use??? I was last week in the studio and they recorded my 7 piece drumkit with 18 microphones... result: shit. I was really upset since it's gonna be on an album and I don't really like the sound. I want to record my own kit by myself so what do you suggest? thx man
wow 18. man i never go above 10 i try to keep it fresh and open. you should maybe try shures five piece SM57 series percussion mics just get some add ons they are really crisp and easy to EQ also shure has great warranty options. i was just in a studio last monday and they recorded my 6 piece with vintage teletronics and blauponk gear. amazing tone.
My hat is off to you good sir. Too much showing off and not enough groove on youtube. This is a tasty exception. Loved it. Is this a specific groove by Chambers, or just a general Chambers-esque groove?
Chambers' shuffle sounds more like the shuffle is on the snare, though. I can't believe no one has mentioned this. What you're playing is basically the perdie or porcoro shuffle, with the shuffle on the hats....no?
Yep! My favorite drums. Snare is the Erskine 4x14 piccolo maple shell. HH are 14" Sabian AAX Fast Hats while the rest of the cymbals are various Zildjian Ks.
well done dude...its a sick shuffle and very accurate...try playing "pick hits" from Chambers "In The Pocket" dvd/book...the groove is really syncopated with the bass and really funky...
nice groove !!
NAThan9871 5 months ago
great sound of your drums!
diadww2 6 months ago
very very nice, neat, tidy, precise and with nice feeling. spot on!
djmoscow 6 months ago
brilliant playing, some people seem to think that if you dont play every single note identical to how other people play it your doing something wrong.If every drummer followed this way of thinking, the drumming world would be a very dull place
170adamb 7 months ago
hell yes than you man
anjoojt 7 months ago
This is so good, it doesn't even make sense to my ears.
AirRaidAaron 9 months ago
féra, perfeito....
willetaci 10 months ago
all I can say is DAMN!!!
grasmussenNC 10 months ago
Super groove I was jammin along with ya during the fast, 160bpm section :-)
AlanM11Drums 11 months ago
Who the heck would click on the Thumbs Down icon for this video? Hahaha :-)
rasddddd 1 year ago
Nicely done. You break it down well. I heard him play this groove with McLaughlin and now I understand. Gotta love Dennis!
walking360 1 year ago
Nice, nice. You should try to glue the bass drum better with the cymbal strokes, but it's complicated either way, so nice job.
StevieArt 1 year ago
wow!!!!
janknjazovic 1 year ago
Hey man, I gotta ask, what is the sticking for this pattern as you start using the ride bell? Are you playing triplets with the bell accent on ever other note or what ? Cheers man, great vid and playing.
Jackondrums18 1 year ago
@Jackondrums18 The ride pattern as played by Dennis requires the left hand to lead the triplets through the bar. The clearest way to get into the ride pattern is to play a "R L L R" at the beginning of the bar and then continue alternating hands after that. Example (ride is the capital R): "r l l R l r l R l r l R l r l R l r l R l r l R"
RespectTheGroove 1 year ago
your missing out a ghost note, the ghost on the snare is on both the second and third beats of the triplet subdisivion. its bloody hard though!
residentdrummerpete 1 year ago
@residentdrummerpete Good ear. Yes, I left out some of the ghost notes. I don't play all the possible ghost notes because the groove starts to sound too busy and a little bit mechanical to me. It's a personal choice.
RespectTheGroove 1 year ago
yea man that dry ride is my fav!! and you're technique and sound is just awesome
HippieDrummer06 1 year ago
That was mint. When i watch the actual Dennis Chambers shuffle it sounds like he has more ghost notes thought but im not sure.
19jord93 1 year ago
What is the John Mclaughlin (possibly The Free Spirits) song that Dennis Chambers plays this beat on? Please someone help me out! I used to have the recording, now it's gone. Argh!
chuckdelawabbas 1 year ago
he reminds me of steve carrel
Kierank30 1 year ago
Hey Thanks man great beat, haha from the angle there you look kinda like Christian Bale LOL
earthisgod 1 year ago
great hand for life.
bentecho 1 year ago
Damn,u look just like Chad Wackerman! lol
byLivio 1 year ago
How long did it take for you to get this groove down? Without the ride addition. I'm pretty good but I can't do the shuffle on the high-hats with the ghost notes on the snare....I'm so used to quarters and 8th notes on the high-hat I can't master this beat....it's frustrating.
EverythingEvil007 1 year ago
I've heard DC play the ride cymbal part on a number of clips but never worked it out. This was a great help, thanks for the clip.
funkyleo1973 1 year ago
hey man,
which model is your ride?
K Custom Special Dry Ride?
rhythmicflip24 1 year ago
@rhythmicflip24 Yes! One of my favorites.
RespectTheGroove 1 year ago
Damn that 160 bpm is taasty!
Kimippsen 1 year ago
hey...........i know this guy.....he is a student of tommy igoe....
he appeared in his new DVD.."great hands for a lifetime".....
guys....do check dat out.....keeps ur hands healthy for the rest of ur life......
u dont need to practice on pillows anymore..... :)
hardcorehustlamaniac 1 year ago
where are the ghost notes that Dennis C. plays? or which part of your video is its description about?
danieljanca 1 year ago
@danieljanca This is mainly about the 2nd half with the hi-hat/ride shift.
RespectTheGroove 1 year ago
ghost notes shoud be a bit more prominent ala dc
SuperHighGloss 1 year ago
it remembers me bernard purdie half shuffle grovee!
krloscout 1 year ago
it remembers me bernard purdie half shuffle grovee!
krloscout 1 year ago
great job but roll at the ends was way out of time :D
overtime2005 1 year ago
hey I don't know where my comment went but! Thank you for this vid! I always wanted to figure out this groove. I came up with my own by accident, kinda reversed, and somehow sounds similar to dennis's without the "ride thing". This is inspiring!
sisenor124 1 year ago
wow... u got all the stuff
catslikethief 1 year ago
wow
DrumminMage 1 year ago
very helpful!
thank you very much :)
gmozomg 1 year ago
Yes, what micoo17 just said. Nicely executed!!! Thumbs Up!!
malcolmpalm 1 year ago
Respect the groove, indeed.
TheBrownMan2112 1 year ago
Great left hand Mate I see a lot of trad grip players and the left hand looks awfull your's looks great
poulter5150 1 year ago
nice feel, nice touch., nice sound. keep playin away man!
lydianflatseven 1 year ago
You're are amazing and that ride pattern has been one of the most inspiring things i've ever seen. Thank you
ArabellaMusic 1 year ago
Great!!!
Drumauri 1 year ago
Great Groove, Great feel for the kit man. Awesome playing. 5*
RobertReedMusic 1 year ago
YES! Loved it!
Jackinthehizzle 1 year ago
amazing drummer hands down!
18181881 2 years ago
Nice work... sounds a lot like Dennis.
westcoast1965 2 years ago
dammit i cant do the ghost notes
needlessdestruction 2 years ago
If you mean that you can't play grace/ghost notes lightly enough (volume-wise), then that's one thing (I need more practice in this, too)...but if you mean that you cannot understand where the grace/ghost notes come in, then here is the notation:
RgRRgR(RL)gRRgRRgRRgR(RL)g (etc.)
g = grace/ghost note
(RL) = right/left hand together; L is downbeat
davss5 2 years ago
@davss5 I don't get this part: R(RL)gRR.
iamthewalruskookoo 1 year ago
@iamthewalruskookoo ...thanks for writing/responding...the (RL) represents the right (R) hand and left (L) hand together - with the L as the snare downbeat (accent)...the g is the (left hand) grace note...
davss5 1 year ago
amazing, go black!
martinlealruiz 2 years ago
ive got the porcaro groove like imprinted into my muscles now haha...thats all ive been playing for the last couple of months, its addictvie
EkayDrums 2 years ago 6
Haha...the same thing has happened to me...I've played off-and-on since 1973, and it was not until during the past year that I tried to tackle the general (Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle) groove...well, I finally got it, and I keep playing it over and over...I just enjoy that rolling/fluid aspect of the groove...I remember when I first started out and thought it to be awkward to include the grace note following the downbeat...now it feels so comfortable to play this groove!
davss5 2 years ago
@EkayDrums The same thing has happened to me...I like straight (non-ghosted) grooves - but I also like the "rolling, fluid" grooves like the BP Half-Time Shuffle...also, Phil Collins - who used a fair amount of ghost-noting and fluid grooves (before he simplified his drumming in the 80s) - had some influence on me...he did a full-time ghost-noted shuffle on "Get 'Em Out By Friday", and he often used ghost-noted 7/8 grooves (e.g., 2nd half of "The Cinema Show")...
davss5 8 months ago
how do you play so fast on the high-hats with just one hand...?
EverythingEvil007 2 years ago
You're awesome, man. I wish you could teach me...
EverythingEvil007 2 years ago
Practicing double-strokes (RRLLRRLL) can potentially increase your speed...
The (Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle) groove involves repetitive triplets that involve doing a double-stroke on the right hand (if you're playing right-handed):
RgRRgR(RL)gRRgRRgRRgR(RL)g (etc.)
g = grace/ghost note
(RL) = right/left hand together; L is downbeat
I have confidence that you'll get it!
davss5 2 years ago
SICK
scoochv 2 years ago
Yea man - gr8 feel!
ns81 2 years ago
The beat is R_r, R_r, R_r, R_r on the hats (with R being the accent), and _ll, _ll, Lll, _ll on the snare (with L being the full stroke).
So both hands together is R l lr, R l lr, LR l lr, R l lr.
If that makes any sense.
fckbeans 2 years ago
Nice! Great mix, too. Drum & cymbals sound beautiful.
PaulGarafola 2 years ago
like what danieljanka was saying, this is different to the chambers groove, if it is off the song i am thinking of. i like your version alot better. i think the difference is that chambers high-hats are played with unswung quarter strokes and the left hand is filling each beat of the bar with a triplet, giving it the swung feel. your version is far more technical. this is only talking about the first section on the hats, not between the ride.
tmonozy 2 years ago
Here We go again..you are stupid..it would be triplets to start off with..Damm Man ..Agrue with MY DEGREE IN MUSIC YOU MORON.
Patrickphx11 2 years ago
Print out degrees don't count
RizzoSaurusRex 2 years ago
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Patrickphx11 2 years ago
actually it is: its a 16th note shuffle with ghosted snares in between the shufflets
bdL91 2 years ago
actually you stuck moron..it is not.
Patrickphx11 2 years ago
call it what you want, but this beat was invented by Bernard Purdie as a young man in the 1940's. Chambers, Porcaro, Bohnam all put a slight change of feel on it, but it's still Purdie's original " Locomotion " as he called it.
mlcoo17 2 years ago 15
..exactly
spacitydrummer4JC 2 years ago
@mlcoo17 Cool.
decentdrummer911 1 year ago
@mlcoo17 The shuffle feel with the ghost notes was used way before Purdie in military drops years before. Bernard is a wonderful drummer, but tells very tall tales IE that he played on the alot of the Beatles Albums .. Just wrong !
Wilsonbangy 1 year ago
@Wilsonbangy With respect, I've never heard any military drumming than comes anywhere near Purdie's funky shuffle, past or present. Even if it exists ( funky military half time shuffle ), which I seriously doubt, Purdie is the one who invented the Purdie shuffle or as he called it then, his " locomotion". I don't care what Purdie says about the Beatles. What I'm saying is that you cannot find a recording of the Purdie Shuffle prior to Bernard Purdie, it's his, he invented it as we know it.
mlcoo17 1 year ago
@mlcoo17 Ok thanks for clearing that one up .. Your very wrong but well done .. Have a nice life ;0)
Wilsonbangy 1 year ago
@mlcoo17 He didn't invent the shuffle. He popularised it certainly, but the feel and shuffle groove and half time playing had been around for a long time. His particular time, and the way he played it made it a drummers favourite, but in no way did he INVENT the half time shuffle. It's kind of like saying Charlie Parker invented bop.
bteniswood 1 year ago
@bteniswood Of course he didn't invent the shuffle. The are LOTS of shuffles, but THS shuffle in THIS style, was invented by Purdie, that's why it's known as the Purdie shuffle. I challenge anyone to show a recording before Purdie's time of the same shuffle.
mlcoo17 1 year ago
Damn dude! You have some incredible feel. So many Youtube drummer vids have badly recorded drums being played badly, and this one is the complete opposite. It sounds nice, looks good, and of course you can play. Thumbs up bro!
flanger001 2 years ago 2
This is nicely played but you missed the ghost notes Dennis Chambers does on the snare drum. It's a lot denser and that makes it much harder partly. This is a decent video anyways.
danieljanca 2 years ago
he does them, but really soft.
HammondB200 2 years ago
Im not deaf I know he plays ghost notes. The thing is that he plays single ghost notes while Chambers does doubles which actually results in 3 consecutive hits on the snare when played after the 2nd and 4th quarter.
danieljanca 2 years ago
Gran réplica de los grooves de éstos grandes maestros tocados a un tiempo bajo para el entendimiento .................many thanks
Cuchufletonsky 2 years ago
damn thats blazing!!!
when you played it slow it sounded like you were gonna do the Babylon Sisters groove from Alive in America...Chambers rips that song up...best version i say...Ricky Lawson lays it down too but love Chambers shuffles...
...Im gonna try this...hehe
Peace
daitofitube 2 years ago
man your good....
you play so smoothly :)
steveyweveh 2 years ago
Vientos Brother
BTKJRG 2 years ago
very clean and steady...great job...
davss5 2 years ago
thank god someone broke it down!
winnerbaby44 2 years ago
I gont get the sticking.
Do u start the groove with ur left hand?
This would explain the groove to me xD
zephyrous666 2 years ago
It's just straight alternating eighth-note triplets with your left hand starting on 1 and going to the snare on 3 and your right hand going back and forth between ride and hi-hat.
mattwalker21 2 years ago
yes it's just hand-to-hand, RLRLRLR all the way, left hand takes the lead
daviethedrummer 2 years ago
not really dude. its the rosanna shuffle.
blight4hire 2 years ago 2
If ur a righty start with your right hand on the hi-hat on beat one along with your bass.
RegalTipDrummer 2 years ago
"All I wanna do when I wake up in the mornin' is see your eyes... Rosanna, Rosanna."
stauggion 2 years ago
i loved that ;)
SoulbassJr 2 years ago
such a hard groove to get to sound right
thenickanator 2 years ago 3
@sawred22 stick with your cowbell, retard!
MustangSheilaK 2 years ago 3
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you suckk
cobus is way better
sawred22 2 years ago
cobus is good, but he probably never and i mean NEVER do this
JaskaJunior 2 years ago
Exactly....Cobus has nothing on this guy, 100% positive.
EverythingEvil007 2 years ago
I wish i could tune that well
jsatzy 2 years ago
nice
kLbdRums 2 years ago
Wow, Buddy...take a bow!
;-)
MustangSheilaK 2 years ago
thank you for this Video! helped a lot when you slowed it down! also ur set is tuned to perfection
RegalTipDrummer 2 years ago
wow, you're brilliant.
nice playing.
Volentrix 2 years ago 2
You proved to be a serious drummer who cares about sound and groove!! Very accurate too. What mics do you normally use??? I was last week in the studio and they recorded my 7 piece drumkit with 18 microphones... result: shit. I was really upset since it's gonna be on an album and I don't really like the sound. I want to record my own kit by myself so what do you suggest? thx man
crystalandytabla 2 years ago
wow 18. man i never go above 10 i try to keep it fresh and open. you should maybe try shures five piece SM57 series percussion mics just get some add ons they are really crisp and easy to EQ also shure has great warranty options. i was just in a studio last monday and they recorded my 6 piece with vintage teletronics and blauponk gear. amazing tone.
Jaythedrummerman 2 years ago
My hat is off to you good sir. Too much showing off and not enough groove on youtube. This is a tasty exception. Loved it. Is this a specific groove by Chambers, or just a general Chambers-esque groove?
briankingston76 2 years ago 2
congratulations!! very good
vichrischner 2 years ago
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nothing of special....very easy to play...
VittorioPetrina 3 years ago
awesome !
littlestrider20 3 years ago
Very nice playing.
Chambers' shuffle sounds more like the shuffle is on the snare, though. I can't believe no one has mentioned this. What you're playing is basically the perdie or porcoro shuffle, with the shuffle on the hats....no?
intotubintoo 3 years ago
the first shuffle on the hi hat only needs more ghost notes, it makes it sound cooler, and at 180 ;)
bonzo1989 3 years ago
Control is out of this world.
drumminglad 3 years ago
Fuck that's an awesome beat!
tylerLhobbs 3 years ago
Straight up great playing here man.
Symmetry44 3 years ago
veryyyy porcaro!! awesome. he would approve.
Dave747Pilot 3 years ago
grosisimo!!! very very good!
pinito15 3 years ago
Sorry i didnt read the description
JRcmty 3 years ago
Sorry the original shuffle is not from dennis chambers, is from Jeff Porcaro
JRcmty 3 years ago
ive been looking at the original one from Dennis, and you got it man. sickness!
ima start working on this..
jonathan2x4 3 years ago
The first part of the shuffle really sounds like the 'Rosanna-Shuffle' from Jeff Porcaro! You nailed it again, well done!;)
Jvi1990 3 years ago
excellent way to show us how it's done. solid groove!
djinniboo 3 years ago
dude, thats it! Thnx man...
DrumNhg 3 years ago
You nailed it, dude. Thanks for posting.
yulelovethebeats 3 years ago
awsome dude.. drums are class too, wat are they?
rjproud 3 years ago
are you palying on a yamaha maple custom?
rudeboyjohn 3 years ago
Yep! My favorite drums. Snare is the Erskine 4x14 piccolo maple shell. HH are 14" Sabian AAX Fast Hats while the rest of the cymbals are various Zildjian Ks.
RespectTheGroove 3 years ago
Similar to the Bernard Purdie Drum Shuffle
timwalkersings 3 years ago
stellar dewd,
drummwill 3 years ago
bravo. well done
milkfromrice 3 years ago
i like this. the tuning of the drums sound very nice
tonyswarstuff 3 years ago
You're now on my top 10 favorite drummers list.
MUCH respect!
Drumming2thelord 3 years ago
well done dude...its a sick shuffle and very accurate...try playing "pick hits" from Chambers "In The Pocket" dvd/book...the groove is really syncopated with the bass and really funky...
Nivek20 3 years ago 2