If Schumann had composed nothing else for piano he would still be a great composer for the instrument. As for Horowitz' performance, it is breathtaking in its clarity, but above all in his understanding of its structure. The final bars are so great - Schumann 'lounges back', relaxing into a romantic, dreamy reverie, after all of those notes!
I never understood the appeal of this piece until hearing this performance. Every line is as clear as a bell, not a mad rush and blur of notes like every other performance I've heard.
@brassmonkeyjew You can find the score at imslp.org. The piece is notoriously difficult for its thirds and octaves, among other things--you need wrists of steel for this.
This is fast but full of joie de vivre, limitless joy. He has hit the nail on the head. You feel he is being musical first, not just trying to impress.
I have played this piece for years. Today's pianos are "too good." In Schumann's day, on an upright salon piano, with mediocre felts and inconsistent pedal depth, the piano would have sustained without the use of pedal at all! But today, the piece is blurry with pedal (Horowitz) and percussive without it (Pogorelich). Perhaps a more "worn-out" instrument would honor the intent of the composer better....
no Schumann would have liked to have a better piano and his piano wasn t that bad you describe. His wife did play on the best pianos in europe, He had his music in the head and new all good pianos too. Then Pogorelich just don t respect the text written down by Schumann thats all. Horowitz does respect any detail!!!!!! There is the difference
Both Richter and Horowitz were giants. Richter was unsurpassed when speed and power were called for, but he could play the slower pieces superbly. He never got this one right though. Horowitz was for clarity, subtlty, musicianship and this piece he did perfectly. Pegorolich is his equal here.
Petie32, I would not detract one iota from the miracle that is Vladimir Horowitz. But I note with pleasure your kudo to Ivo Pogorelich's dazzling performance of this work, which can be found here on youtube.
I have always thought this performance as being THE STANDARD to which I compare other performances to. I know of no other interpretation with such clarity of architecture, incredible dynamics and discovery of hidden detail which continue to amaze after many hearings.
Notice how he brings out the syncopations... it's not just a "spinning wheel" "perpetuum mobile" piece in the hands of a Master! This is definitely his piece: excellent dynamics, melodic contrasts and playful/cheerful atmosphere.
You know I was thinking, why are there so many who think one pianist is better than the other, but than I realized, most like both, but the ones who like one better are jerks who can't shut up about it and refuse to ever see that the both are pretty good. Do you think if these two pianists got together, they'd argue on who's better? hah!
for me horowitz is the only one who is able to make real music with this very difficult piece... si i think it's musically much more sophisticated than richter's recording
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I agree that the Richter 1959 recording is the musically and technically best recording of this piece I've ever heard. Horowitz is just too "tricky" (and sloppy) for me.
Wow, this is breath-takingly controlled and clear, beautifully voiced, imaginative, and yet exciting. Incompoarable as always, this recording puts to shame the pianists of today such as Kissin and Lang Lang. (Kissin raced through this piece at Carnegie Hall like an angry spoiled child; it was too fast, inarticulate, and unmusical.) Long live the art of Vladimir Horowitz !!!
@damnthatissocool overall Kissin & Lang Lang & ME....deeply do NOT care about your comment ....they have their sold-out concert halls in ANY COUNTRY at ANY CONTINENT !!!! Recently I had a luck to listen Lang Lang live in Westwood Los Angeles , performances of Schubert Sonatas were realized by stunning virtuosity , WISDOM & PASSION ! I'll tell you more Horowitz was NOT PERFECT at any time...no one is perfect...EVEN GLEN GOULD !! EVEN RICHTER !!
@damnthatissocool p.s. & the fact that you just blindly overrated this version by saying "CONTROLLED & CLEAR..." says itself that you were not CONCENTRATED YOUR ATTENTION in what should be perfection in general WITHOUT comparison to any one & just showed YOUR MEDIOCRE LEVEL as a Judge in Art of Pianoforte...
Horowitz doesn't play this as fast as Cziffra for interpretative reasons; therefore I prefer this interpretation but I still like the one Richter did.
No one has ever played this perfectly. Except for cziffra.
MrLieblingsessen 1 month ago
@MrLieblingsessen I like his interpretation more than Cziffra`s. This has more control and shades
Fraitzen 1 month ago
Difficile de faire mieux pour cette Toccata;
MrTIRILLY 1 month ago
Legendary!
legendbach 2 months ago
This interpretation is so Monumental is almost scary!
edgarardonherra 2 months ago
If Schumann had composed nothing else for piano he would still be a great composer for the instrument. As for Horowitz' performance, it is breathtaking in its clarity, but above all in his understanding of its structure. The final bars are so great - Schumann 'lounges back', relaxing into a romantic, dreamy reverie, after all of those notes!
sdweaver2008 6 months ago
I never understood the appeal of this piece until hearing this performance. Every line is as clear as a bell, not a mad rush and blur of notes like every other performance I've heard.
elainebmack 7 months ago
How come there were 3 unlikes??
TheLipmannToy 9 months ago
is it possible to teach myself this?
sophkin651 1 year ago
@sophkin651 Yes ! But composing....NEVER !!!!!
sam0xin 11 months ago
the last notes are super...
4785689 1 year ago 3
horowitz is very good! He plays very clear and the performance is very good.!!!!
Tiberius1919 1 year ago
wow... just listened to cziffra's performance and it was so much more robotic than good ol horowitz ... this is awesome
pinkfloyddwc 1 year ago
i like the way you can hear so much clarity in all the voices and textures. so many people i hear play this play all the fingers the same volume
ReturnOfTheStienway 1 year ago
ReturnOfTheStienway - that's the magic of the romantic approach - the richer voices/voicing.
kasyapa 1 year ago
How hard is this to play?
Hopefully it's not one of those impossible ones only piano robots can play...
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew You can find the score at imslp.org. The piece is notoriously difficult for its thirds and octaves, among other things--you need wrists of steel for this.
ayso78 1 year ago
The way he starts the theme in the left hand ( 0:43 ) and then makes a contrast... is just heartstopping
Tsotne16 1 year ago
A specialite de la maison and the best overall performance we could hope to hear. See my comments
about his 60s performance of the Op 10 No 8 Chopin
Etude, played with similar insight.
jghancockjr 2 years ago
This is spine tingling!!!!
mdeonx16 2 years ago
This is fast but full of joie de vivre, limitless joy. He has hit the nail on the head. You feel he is being musical first, not just trying to impress.
cynic150 2 years ago 2
I have played this piece for years. Today's pianos are "too good." In Schumann's day, on an upright salon piano, with mediocre felts and inconsistent pedal depth, the piano would have sustained without the use of pedal at all! But today, the piece is blurry with pedal (Horowitz) and percussive without it (Pogorelich). Perhaps a more "worn-out" instrument would honor the intent of the composer better....
dhdw6 2 years ago
Maybe just a brush of pedal, say depressed about 1/16th of the way, would add the extra resonance without the pronounced blur.
daniel15671 2 years ago
You're absolutely right. This rendition is too blurry and Pogo's is like getting blasted with hail. I still prefer the latter, however.
Buldaner 2 years ago
no Schumann would have liked to have a better piano and his piano wasn t that bad you describe. His wife did play on the best pianos in europe, He had his music in the head and new all good pianos too. Then Pogorelich just don t respect the text written down by Schumann thats all. Horowitz does respect any detail!!!!!! There is the difference
uhartchristian 1 year ago
Both Richter and Horowitz were giants. Richter was unsurpassed when speed and power were called for, but he could play the slower pieces superbly. He never got this one right though. Horowitz was for clarity, subtlty, musicianship and this piece he did perfectly. Pegorolich is his equal here.
petie32 2 years ago
Petie32, I would not detract one iota from the miracle that is Vladimir Horowitz. But I note with pleasure your kudo to Ivo Pogorelich's dazzling performance of this work, which can be found here on youtube.
salviati 2 years ago
you should have a look at the toccata Schumann by Lhevinne here on youtube and by Ciffra too before making conclusions too quick....
and you should learn this piece yourself, you would recognize that Horowitz does respect the volotny of Schumann best
uhartchristian 1 year ago
Now I know why Horowize is great...:-)
Each melodies clearly and contrastly to running, mixing in such beautiful way.
I'm fully entertained...fully entertained...^^
hjchang87 2 years ago 18
[I have always thought this performance as being THE STANDARD to which I compare other performances to.]
It's an unusually lyrical, cantabile interpretation, no question about that. But I prefer Pollini.
gdiv22 2 years ago
he have an extriemly ACTIVE fingers............
he take all the notes at his hands.
once he said : " i a general who give the command to my horseman".
he like a line at the jungel THE KING OF PIANO ART!!
kempff95 2 years ago
I have always thought this performance as being THE STANDARD to which I compare other performances to. I know of no other interpretation with such clarity of architecture, incredible dynamics and discovery of hidden detail which continue to amaze after many hearings.
shubus 2 years ago 8
Notice how he brings out the syncopations... it's not just a "spinning wheel" "perpetuum mobile" piece in the hands of a Master! This is definitely his piece: excellent dynamics, melodic contrasts and playful/cheerful atmosphere.
GaryPansey 2 years ago 5
This is very good coincidence to two genius of the music! Thank you dededeglouts to this greate video!!!
julakidze333 2 years ago
Richter is not better or worse than Horowitz. They are just different.
HTTPCore 2 years ago 4
You know I was thinking, why are there so many who think one pianist is better than the other, but than I realized, most like both, but the ones who like one better are jerks who can't shut up about it and refuse to ever see that the both are pretty good. Do you think if these two pianists got together, they'd argue on who's better? hah!
Fallansig 2 years ago
for me horowitz is the only one who is able to make real music with this very difficult piece... si i think it's musically much more sophisticated than richter's recording
Leubald 2 years ago 9
...also really amazing:))
kajohada 3 years ago
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I agree that the Richter 1959 recording is the musically and technically best recording of this piece I've ever heard. Horowitz is just too "tricky" (and sloppy) for me.
MrFullService 3 years ago
Horowitz was like a coiled spring; part of his genius. One so wanted him to play faster but the bounder knew that less is more!
rabengeraun 3 years ago 3
Wow, this is breath-takingly controlled and clear, beautifully voiced, imaginative, and yet exciting. Incompoarable as always, this recording puts to shame the pianists of today such as Kissin and Lang Lang. (Kissin raced through this piece at Carnegie Hall like an angry spoiled child; it was too fast, inarticulate, and unmusical.) Long live the art of Vladimir Horowitz !!!
damnthatissocool 3 years ago 28
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you are right but I think that the Richter version recordered in 1959 is the best.Listen to it.
Oblomov18 3 years ago
comet is too late, but i can't keep silence. Richter play this like a knight, like carpenter. terrible!never expect such kind of roughness
krastavitza 3 years ago
agree.
HTTPCore 3 years ago
@damnthatissocool overall Kissin & Lang Lang & ME....deeply do NOT care about your comment ....they have their sold-out concert halls in ANY COUNTRY at ANY CONTINENT !!!! Recently I had a luck to listen Lang Lang live in Westwood Los Angeles , performances of Schubert Sonatas were realized by stunning virtuosity , WISDOM & PASSION ! I'll tell you more Horowitz was NOT PERFECT at any time...no one is perfect...EVEN GLEN GOULD !! EVEN RICHTER !!
sam0xin 11 months ago
@sam0xin For not caring you sure wrote a lot in response. Just enjoy the music.
wantrice 9 months ago
@wantrice I'm enjoining now silence of damnthatissoCHEAP...it means he(she) is agree...
sam0xin 9 months ago
@damnthatissocool p.s. & the fact that you just blindly overrated this version by saying "CONTROLLED & CLEAR..." says itself that you were not CONCENTRATED YOUR ATTENTION in what should be perfection in general WITHOUT comparison to any one & just showed YOUR MEDIOCRE LEVEL as a Judge in Art of Pianoforte...
sam0xin 11 months ago
I like it. It has fantasy and the tempo is good. Always the arpege fa la do fa fa with the chords, without the middle notes, only octaves
oinetakoa 3 years ago 5
c'est la meilleur version avec celle d'emil gilels, qui existe au monde
istreba 3 years ago 5
Great! Bravo! TY.
paulostroff99 3 years ago 2
best Schumann toccata ever!
music4cisum 3 years ago 6
waht was the year of this recording ????
cause i ve heard one from 34 and its GREATTTT, if you con post it it wold be great, i think this one is earlier for the sound, but thanks.
00Diego00 3 years ago
Horowitz doesn't play this as fast as Cziffra for interpretative reasons; therefore I prefer this interpretation but I still like the one Richter did.
mathpianist93 3 years ago 6
ah splendid!thank you!
EilisErina 4 years ago 4